SteddyGolf

Good points and you are definitely tracking my thought process. If I could figure out how to delete my original post I certainly would do so. I didn’t mean for it to go sideways.

I think so but I do have to plead a little ignorance. I’m going to assume the Koran Ferry Tour guys play on courses that are set up very similar to PGA Tour Events. LPGA courses/events are shorter and have a more golfer friendly set up. I’ve played on a course the week after it hosted a LPGA event and another course a week after it hosted a PGA Tour event. The difference was night and day in respect to length, rough and green speed. Truth be told I would like to see how women would compete in a field that consisted of both men and women playing the same course from the same distance with the same set up. However, Korn Ferry Tour players and LPGA players should have to compete against one another to earn a spot at a given event.

Negative. My opinion is simply my opinion not based of other articles. If you want to discuss my opinion I’m willing and able to do so. i

I had to go back and read my original post. I was not clear. I was not referring to sponsor exemptions as much as I was referring to the possibility that the road to the PGA Tour for LPGA players might one day be solely based on their performance on the women’s tour. With that being said I am not a fan of sponsor exemptions in general. There are a lot of players out there scratching and clawing to become a professional golfer often living out of the trunk of their car to do so. Giving a multi-millionaire a sponsor exemption based on their celebrity status does not sit well with me. Still that was not the reason for my original post but is what most respondents are focusing on.

Again, opinions of others is not the theme of my post. It is my opinion which I will be glad to discuss. I’m not going to entertain a rabbit hole that ventures away from the original reason for my post. so this is the argument statement, “ equal opportunity means equal access not equal outcomes. Individual performance determines the outcome. LPGA players should be given access (I think they are) to the PGA Tour but only if the navigate the same gauntlet as do the men”.

That kind of was my end point and supports my argument. LPGA successful should not be a pathway to earn PGATour status. Sponsor exemptions can be given to anyone for a single tournament which I’m still not a big fan of. I understand the math but that doesn’t mean I agree with it. Steph Curry brings attention to a given event but he also takes up a slot that I (not really) could be given. While he is a good golfer he (and others) are given a slot based on their celebrity status. Can you imagine Brad Pitt playing as the starting linebacker for the rams simply because he is Brad Pitt?

As I stated, I didn’t read the MGS article. I said it may or may not apply. Articles, podcasts, opinion pieces…. They are all out there. Still don’t get hung up on whether or not you can find them. The point of my entire post was I believe women should be allowed to play on the PGA Tour and those qualification requirements should be the same for all who wish to give it a go. Performance on the LPGA Tour should not be one of those pathways for qualification.

I wasn’t aware. Can women go to Q school to qualify for the PGA Tour?

I’m sorry I didn’t realize my comments must be written in APA Format with a proper reference page. I’ll remember that for the future.

Now I remember why I left the forum to begin with. I’m not looking for an argument but instead trying to generate a discussion. There are numerous articles on line. I saw one pop up in the mygolfspy main page but have yet to read it. It may or may not be applicable.

My comments were misleading. I own that. However, I was not really commenting on sponsor exemptions as much as recent articles advocating for LPGA players to be given PGA Tour status based on their LPGA Tour performance. In regard to Lexi, she beat no one. Her score was lower than some at the cut but the bottom line is that score was based on two rounds. Walking and playing 7000 yards over four consecutive days is the measurement for a single tournament. Qualifying for the PGA Tour would include performance/success against the field over numerous tournaments. my comments are/were not about Lexi but more so about the possibility of creating a gender neutral tour were ALL members of the tour must go through the same gauntlet.

I’m aware of how sponsor exemptions work. That was really not the main point of my comments but I can see how they could be misleading. I was actually commenting on recent articles advocating for LPGA players to be given PGA Tour status based on their LPGA success.

That’s just another way of saying the same thing. If it’s easier to understand as stated in your example I’m all for it.

I deleted this entry. Seems things went down a path I had not intended. I take responsibility for that direction of travel. In the future I will do a better job of clarifying my thoughts and or opinions.

There are a lot of different swing types at the top of the back swing but the great ball strikers all share one thing in common. That thing being the position of their hands at the bottom of the swing. When they make contact they are have a flat lead wrist and bent trail wrist. If you drill this phenomenon with say your pitching wedge or 9 iron, in time your ball striking will improve significantly.

I don’t want to be argumentative here but for a lot of people cost is absolutely the leading factor. Most golfers are between 44 and 60 which means they are most likely still working, paying a mortgage and putting kids through college. Yes, the average household income of a golf family is over $100,000.00 US annually but even at that number if you still have kids on the payroll then the cost of leisure activity is a major factor. Cost may not be an issue for you but that’s not what you asked. You asked about the benefits and or reason to join. I simply listed one.

Great question. I was living in Oklahoma and I routinely played with the same 12 or so guys every weekend. Rain or shine is was a "thing" to always show up especially on the most miserable of days. No one wanted to be the guy who punked out. We had numerous days where I thought I had lost my mind. During those days the score was not important, surviving was the overarching theme.

I have to say The Masters. I am not a big Ryder Cup fan. I think it looks like a fun time but seeing a bunch of golfers play the role of tough guy makes me laugh. Most professional golfers (not all) come from well to do families and have never had to fight for anything that truly mattered in their lives. Seeing the bravado with their chests puffed out is comical to me. Brooks needs to go sit down somewhere before he gets balled up, lmao.

This is really rare for me but it has happened before. I play pretty fast and I always push my group when they are playing slow. If someone actually hits into me and or my group I will jump in the cart and go talk to the group in a tactful manner. Hitting into someone is not unlike confrontations in a chat room. Folks will do and say things differently when not within touching distance. I have yet to have someone threaten me when I confronted them. They usually apologize right away. Have I hit into someone before? Yes, on purpose and by accident lol. Some course have blind shots with no audible warning (bell) to sound the fairway is clear. When I have done this it was 100% by accident, usually haven't even seen them in front of me until it happens. Now hitting into someone on purpose wasn't really hitting into them. I would never hit a ball that had a chance of hurting anyone. However, I have sent friendly hints that landed 50 yards behind a very very very slow group. Just being honest.

Handicap rules permit you to post 9 hole rounds. However, for argument sake there is a difference between 18 holes and 9 holes. This difference is especially relevant when walking. Buuuuuuut the rules allow for the posting of 9 hole rounds so continue to do so without worry. The opinions of others really do not matter, including my own lol

Let me first qualify my answer by saying my swing speed is on the low side of average for my age. Driver is 92 mph and 7 iron 78 mph. The Vice Pro Plus performs best for me with Bridgestone RX/RXS coming in at a close second. Mizuno RB X Tours also perform well for me.

This is so true. Great point. I have seen courses that included recommendations for tee selection based on handicap. They put a range of required handicaps next to each tee on the score card and again on the tees that first tee box. I have also seen at least two courses that required a handicap of less than 10 to play. Both courses had 36 holes so the lower handicap folks played one course while the higher ones played the other. It was interesting to say the least.

Late to the party here. It really depends on how often you play. You kind of have to do the math from there. Let's take one club in my area. The monthly fees are approximately $500 a month. You also have to pay $24 if you are riding in the cart. This course is a very hard walk. If you play 10 rounds a month then $500 + ($24 x 10) = $740 or on average $74 a round. The public fee is $79.99 a round. There is a norminal savings in this case. My club cost $450 a month plus $150 for an unlimited cart plan. This includes premium Tee Times and unlimited range balls. The total cost to me is $600 a month and I play 15 to 20 rounds a month for an average green fee equivalent of between $30 to $40 a round. That is a pretty good deal. Living on the course, the unlimited range balls are a huge perk. I think you have to do a cost to benefit analysis to really make a decision.

A friend of mine play these exclusively. He swears by them. My experience is the flight is consistent but I lose distance over my normal gamer.

I don’t listening to music on the course unless I’m alone late in the evening. However, I will offer this opposing view. Tom Brady routinely stood before 80,000 screaming fans with 300 pound linemen trying to crush his soul only to throw a football 60 yards in the air to a guy catching it in step running 22 miles per hour. I think a golfer can endure a little background music