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  1. Today I drove a little over an hour one way for my first lesson with a new coach. An hour lesson and paid $250 for the lesson. Two hours of driving, three hours total time away from home. Worth every penny! If I can hit the ball tomorrow like I did today it will be worth even more. My coach texted me a video after the lesson that he took while we were working together demonstrating a drill he wants me to do. When I asked him when we should get together again he told me it was completely up to me. When I had mastered what we had discussed come back if I want help with something else. I’m excited to get to the range tomorrow!
  2. Generally speaking hitting off of a tee allows for a slightly more upwards attack angle that often results in a higher launch and a little more total yardage than hitting the same club off the ground without a tee. It is not uncommon for people to find that they hit a 4, 5 or 7 wood the same distance as a 3 wood off the deck because of the additional loft making the ball easier to launch. The slower their swing speed the more likely this is to happen as the higher lofted clubs add both launch and spin resulting in the ball staying in the air longer and carrying further. The 7 wood often has been called an old man’s club or a gentleman’s persuader. Golf clubs made for the Japanese Domestic Market and specifically by XXIO are aimed at the slower swinging men and women that are willing to pay for lighter shafts, lighter grips and lighter clubheads and often come with more loft. The other group of people that struggle with lower lofted clubs are people like me that tend to hit down on the ball and deloft their club at impact. Those golfers with very high swing speeds could need less spin and the lower lofted strong 3 woods with low launching and low spinning shafts might be a better choice. I believe that for most amateurs the fairway wood is one of the hardest clubs to get along with because of the variety of swing speeds, swing faults, the length of the golf shaft and the economies of the golf industry. Also they are clubs that may be used less frequently than other clubs in the bag resulting in less proficiency due to lack of use. My guess is that the readers of this forum are highly committed, passionate golfers that are much more proficient than the average golfer. Most golfers do not break 100. Only about 10% of all golfers even carry a handicap. The biggest swing fault of the occasional golfer is that they slice the ball. The swing speed and technique of the average golfer is inadequate to get a 3 wood to launch the ball in the air consistently. The economics of building fairway woods are challenging. The price to the consumer for a fairway wood is not high enough to put in a high performance shaft for the proficient golfer with higher swing speed. Most fairway wood shafts are higher torque, low kick point and fairly soft tip section shafts to aid with launch, add spin and help fight a slice. These kinds of shafts are not that expensive to make. If you put in a low torque, stiff tip, real deal premium aftermarket shaft in a fairway wood, the total cost to the consumer might be upwards of $600 and would be hard to sell except to the most dedicated golfers willing to pay for the performance they need. That is why I believe the search for a ready made, off the rack fairway wood is so frustrating for a lot of people and why once you find a fairway wood that works it tends to stay in the bag a long time. Conversely it is also a club that gets changed out a lot due to lack of performance or lack of confidence. Good luck to all y’all in your search to find or build the perfect fairway wood Unicorn.
  3. A couple weeks from now I have a driver fitting scheduled with the main purpose of being able to try real deal aftermarket shafts in the Ping G410 LST driver that I currently have. I hit this driver generally pretty well, but would like to try something other than the stock shafts that were available when I was fit into it. The cost of the driver fitting is a bargain in my mind to use their facility, pay for their time and expertise, use their inventory of expensive shafts, their launch monitors, etc. to try and find a shaft that will allow me to hopefully further improve my dispersion and gain some distance. Certainly a lot cheaper, quicker and easier than buying a bunch of expensive shafts and disposing of the losers. I am certainly willing to try newer head and shaft combinations as well while I’m there. But after the fitting if I find a better combination I will most likely just buy the components off of Ebay and install everything my self. But based on your experiment I will also try using different weights in the head as well because my Ping Driver has a current swing weight of D7. Reducing the swing weight might make a difference.
  4. Yes. The ball speed seems low for your club head speed. As mentioned by the previous poster, the efficiency in turning club head speed into ball speed is affected by how you deliver the club head to the ball and the resulting launch conditions. Using range balls can also affect the numbers. Even among premium golf balls there are some that are lower spinning and others that spin much more which also have an impact on distance. Maybe while you are having your iron fitting you could also swing your driver a few times to get some guidance from the fitter on what is going on.
  5. The heads do not to be ground. They are fully finished, just need to add a shaft, ferrule and grip of your choice and you are ready to go. The weight of the heads are right at about 300 grams. The lofts and lies have been consistent. Since experimenting with this first set I have now built probably ten sets of these. Some given to friends, some donated for golf tournament prizes and some sold to golfers in our Mens Golf Association. The heads are soft enough to bend easily if you want to change the loft or lie. Some of Corey Paul’s heads have additional hand grind applied to remove material on the leading edge and or provide additional toe and heel relief. There are some with additional face milling to provide additional spin, but I have found that not to be necessary as I’m getting lots of spin with premium urethane golf balls.
  6. I’ve been fitted a number of times for Driver, Irons, wedges and putters. Most of the time the fitters were limited to OEM fitting carts with stock shafts and a limited menu of upgrades. This past year and a half I’ve taken my club make-up into my own hands and have been encouraged by members of the forum to consider options that were previously unknown to me. I’ve bought clubs and shafts second hand, bought new old stock clubs and have learned how to pull and replace shafts, grips and bend clubs for both loft and lie. A friend of mine had a fitting at Club Champion several months ago. He ended up getting a new driver, irons and putter. All from different brands than he had used previously. His game has dramatically improved since his fitting. It is incredible what a difference it has made, especially with his driver. He would say that it was money well spent. His experience has convinced me to book a driver fitting there so that I can get access to shafts that would otherwise be difficult and very costly to try on my own. I want to try VA Composites, Graphite Design, KBS and Fujikura shafts in my current driver , a PING G410 LST, and am also open to trying other driver heads and shafts if they can improve upon what I already have. I’m paying for their time, their inventory, their knowledge, their launch monitors, and for the ability to try many thousands of dollars worth of shafts and driver heads for only $175. Most likely once I find the combination that performs the best for me I will build the club myself. I recognize that everyone has different needs, but I view the fitting opportunity as a real bargain.
  7. I have been playing the BGT Stability Tour shaft for the past year and a half paired with an Odyssey O-Works Black #7 and a SuperStroke Traxion Tour 3.0 grip with a 75 gram CounterCore weight. The combination has helped me to reduce my putts per round by an average of two strokes per round during that time. One of my playing partners gives me a boatload of s*** because of my non-oscillating putter shaft. He just won’t admit that my putting has improved and that the shaft had something to do with it despite the fact that all of the bets he has lost to me since I’ve gotten it have more than paid for the upgrade.
  8. Well I sold the Tour Edge Exotics CBX 119 with the Evenflow blue 5.5 shaft to a friend and golfing buddy who had lost confidence in his Cobra 3 wood and he is really getting good results with the 4 wood. Much more height, easier to launch and better carry distance. He has a lot more confidence with the new club. How do I know? I play with him a lot and I see him using it frequently now every round whereas the older Cobra he would only reluctantly use. A couple weeks ago I put a new set of irons in the bag to replace the Titleist AP3s after about 700 rounds played with them. The new ones are forged cavity back Corey Paul irons with KBS $-Taper 120g stiff Black finish shafts, BB&F ferrules and Superstroke Traxion wrap Black midsize grips. Vey classy looking. Great feel and fairly forgiving. Just using the 6-PW for now. So far so good, the stiffer and heavier shafts have really toned down my draw. The swingweight is also higher so I have a better awareness of where the club head is. The irons have weaker lofts though so my 9 iron now has similar loft to my old pitching wedge. Have had to strengthen the lofts on my wedges by a couple degrees to fill the gaps. Playing 50, 54 & 58 degree Corey Paul wedges now instead of 52, 56, 60. The Taylormade SIM 5 wood, Tour Edge XCG7 7 wood, Tour Edge C721 5 hybrid and XCG7 6 hybrid round out the bag. Have booked a lesson with an elite instructor about an hour way from my house to discuss my game and what steps to take to get down to scratch.
  9. A 4 utility iron. It is my 15th club now. I bought a Tour Edge EXS 220 #4 utility iron earlier this year. It is remarkable for low punch shots under trees or any time to get under the wind. Super hot face and the ball just runs forever. Good off the tee as well. I bought it for a trip to Ireland and Scotland for links style courses. Unfortunately my trip has been postponed due to Covid travel issues. I carry it in my bag when practicing or playing casual rounds with friends and swap it for my 5 hybrid when playing in a competition if it is windy. It produces the most beautiful stingers! Addicting to hit. Great for bump and runs and for courses that don’t have raised greens. Just not as good as my hybrid for hitting the ball high and landing a ball softly on a green.
  10. Just put in a new set of irons. I really have been enjoying the Corey Paul wedges that I put into play last year. After looking for some possible replacements for my Titleist AP3 irons earlier this year I stumbled across a couple sets of Corey Paul cavity back irons on Ebay a while back. I played around with them a couple of months ago but wasn’t ready to put them in the bag. After changing grips on one of the sets and adjusting the lofts and lie angles I decided to try them again. After three rounds I’m looking forward to more. The shafts are KBS $-taper 120 gram stiff in the dark finish.
  11. The top end of my bag is still a work in progress. As I mentioned in the original post I’ve been struggling to find the elusive Fairway wood unicorn. Here is where I’m at for now. The Tour Edge C721 25 degree hybrid with the KBS TGI 80g shaft is my new 200-205 yard club and has a medium trajectory with a draw. The Tour Edge XCG7 28 degree hybrid is my 175 yard club and flies very high and does not draw. The Tour Edge XCG7 21 degree 7 wood is very good off the fairway from 215-220 yards and if I miss it tends to be right which is unusual for me. The Tour Edge EXS Ti 21 degree 4 utility club is a very handy rescue club and is very easy to hit low running shots 200 yards. Addictively easy. A fun club. I have found it to be difficult to hit short because the face is so hot. Great unless I have a long carry. For that reason I keep it in reserve for windy days and for playing specific courses. The Taylormade SIM titanium 19 degree 5 wood with the Diamana limited 75g stiff shaft is in my bag. Great off the tee. Ok off the fairway. Have it set to 17.5 degrees and it performs well for the one or two shots a round that I use it. Not crazy about the sound or feel though. Tied my best round ever a couple of weeks ago playing with our Men’s group. Shot a 68 with 8 birdies. A personal best. Decided to move back a set of tees after getting a bunch of crap from everyone. Will play the back tees until the end of the year as we are only allowed to switch tees twice a year. As a result of the switch I will probably be using my mid irons and hybrids a lot more. Will hopefully help my game and force me to develop my approach game a bit. Heading north to Wisconsin for a month and look forward to a change of scenery and some different courses to play.
  12. Would be interesting to test against my Odyssey O-works Black #7 with the BGT Stability Tour Shaft and SuperStroke Traxion 3.0 grip with 75g Counter Core weight.
  13. I also bought a Tour Edge CBX 119 16.5 fairway wood recently with the Evenflow Blue 5.5 65 gram shaft. Love the way it looks, feels and sounds but it is producing high hooks for me. The shaft is just a little too soft. This club is one of several that I got recently to try and replace my Tour Edge EX 10 16.5 degree 4 wood, which had also started hooking on me. I just replaced the shaft in the EX 10 to try and fix the hook issue that way as well. The other fairway woods being tested are the Tour Edge EXS Pro 18 degree 5 wood with the Tensei Orange 75 gram stiff shaft and a Taylormade SIM Ti 19 degree 5 wood with the Diamana Limited 75 gram stiff shaft. So far the Taylormade SIM Ti 19 degree 5 wood turned down to 17.5 degrees seems like it is beating out the other contenders.
  14. I’ve signed up and would love to test these. I use a Check Go Pro to mark all of my golf balls. Currently playing the Bridgestone Tour BRX. Playing off of a 4.1 index. Have 202 scores entered into the GHIN system in the past 12 months. I have a Rapsodo MLM launch monitor that I can use to compare these versus other balls. Regardless if I’m selected or not I will follow the test with interest as I’ve become a believer in the usefulness of identifying the center of gravity and having balls marked accordingly.
  15. Thanks for the lead tape tip. I will try it.
  16. A month or so ago I was sitting on the back porch of the clubhouse with some members of the Men’s Group sharing a post round libation and solving the world’s problems when the conversation turned to finding the elusive perfect fairway wood. The conversation started with this question: Is there a more difficult club to find than a Fairway Wood that is accurate, long and straight off the tee and also easy to get in the air when hitting off of the deck? The conversation was heated at times. Opinions varied. Generally though the participants agreed that if you looked into most golfer’s bags that the oldest club in the bag would either be a fairway wood, a hybrid or a putter. Universally however there was a common refrain about “the one that got away.” As in, “I had this club once and I should never have gotten rid of it.” It seemed especially true of Fairway woods. The consensus among the group was that the 7 wood is the easiest of the fairway woods to hit off of the deck but it just isn’t quite long enough. The 4 & 5 wood had their fans and most people felt they were easier to hit off the tee and off the deck than a 3 wood and just as long in most cases, but still not as easy to hit off the fairway than the 7 wood. The 3 wood was almost universally scorned as hard to hit off of the deck. For a little while now I’ve been playing with a Tour Edge EX 10 16.5 degree 4 wood and a Tour Edge XCG7 21 degree 7 wood. Both have the Fujikura Fuel Red 60g stiff shaft in them. Over the last year I have gotten a little stronger and my swing speed has increased and the shaft in the 4 wood has started to feel a little soft and I’ve been fighting the hooks with it off the tee. The 7 wood being a little shorter seems stiffer and doesn’t hook. So once again I’ve embarked on the Fairway wood Unicorn hunt. As a result of an epic clean out the garage episode, I traded in a bunch of old clubs recently and through the combination of trade-in bonus offers and some of the clubs being still in demand I found myself with quite a bit of store credit to use to underwrite the hunt. First I got a great deal on a new old stock Tour Edge CBX 119 16.5 degree 4 wood with a Project X Evenflow Blue 65 g 5.5 shaft. Loved the way it looks, feels and sounds. Unfortunately high hooks again. Should have gotten a stiffer shaft. Not returnable. Damn! Then I took a risk and picked up a Mint condition demo club, also at a great deal, a Taylormade Sim Ti 19 degree 5 wood with the Diamana Limited 75 gram stiff shaft. Great early results, but not really a fan of the way it looks, feels and sounds. Launches low spin bombs off the tee and with the adjustable hosel allows lots of turn ability. It is in the bag at the moment. The next contender is a brand new Tour Edge EXS Pro 18 degree 5 wood with the Tensei Orange CK 75 gram Stiff shaft. It doesn’t seem to be as long off the tee as the Taylormade and feels heavier and harder to load the shaft. Just feels like more work to swing, but it doesn’t hook either. Will give it another chance and it comes with a 90 day playability guarantee. I picked up a Diamana Limited 75 gram stiff shaft off of Ebay for about $50, removed the Taylormade adapter, pulled the Fujikura Fuel Red shaft out of the EX 10 4 wood and created a golf club love child. Hard to part with this trusty 4 wood even if it is beat up a bit and trying to give it a new life. Testing has just begun. Lastly, a new Tour Edge EXS Ti 22 degree 4 utility iron has joined the party. Sporting a jaunty look and a super hot face, the ball jumps off of it and has already proven in a few short outings on the course to be a nifty rescue club. But it is not as long as my 7 wood and just a bit longer than my 5 hybrid. Going to keep it for windy days, dry and firm conditions and links style courses. It will become my official 15th club in the bag, pinch hitting as needed. The hunt has been joined! Stay tuned. What Unicorn club are you looking for?
  17. The Z101 irons look good. The J33s are the ones I would like to try.
  18. Been gaming my Titleist AP3 irons since spring of 2018. Have liked them but have about 500 rounds on them and they are a bit dinged up. Been experimenting with a set of Corey Paul cavity back irons picked up off Ebay for cheap and have really liked the looks and feel. They are traditionally lofted compared to the stronger lofted AP3s 3 degrees weaker per club. They also have slightly stiffer and heavier shafts in them which reduces my hook miss. Will be making a decision soon.
  19. Quick update: The Tour Edge Exotics C721 25 degree 5 hybrid has proven to be a nice addition to the bag. I have sold my Titleist 818 H1 25 degree hybrid to another member of the Mens Golf Association so there is no going back now. Since I play KBS shafts in all of my irons, the KBS TGI 80g shaft has made for a very easy switch. It has removed the dreaded hook and replaced it with a baby draw. In other news, I’m now testing a Tour Edge EXS 22 degree 4 utility iron, a Tour Edge CBX 119 16.5 degree 4 wood, a Tour Edge EXS 18 degree 5 wood and a Taylormade Sim Ti 19 degree 5 wood as possible replacements for my Tour Edge EX 10 16.5 Degree 4 wood will probably start some new threads for them.
  20. Over the last 8 years I have probably had a dozen different fairway woods in and out of my bag. Currently testing 3 new ones now. My issue is that my swing path is generally fairly steep and I swing in to out with a negative attack angle due to delofting my club at set-up and at impact. Consequently I hit the ball low and with a draw. Great for iron play, not so good with woods. What I’ve found for me that is working is more loft. Added a 21 degree 7 wood to the bag and it has been a huge help from the fairway. It is my 215 yard club. My current 16.5 degree 4 wood has worked well off the tee but has a tendency to hook. I just don’t have confidence with it from the fairway. I’m currently experimenting with another 4 wood and two five woods. The 4 wood that I‘m testing, love the way it feels, looks and sounds. I got a slightly softer shaft in it hoping it would provide more launch. It launches higher alright, but it also hooks a lot more because the tip is not as stiff and the shaft has a higher torque. Ordered a new shaft to see if I can tame the hook. One of the 5 woods I’m testing has a stiffer and heavier shaft in it and it feels like a lot of work to swing it. The other 5 wood has adjustable loft from 17-21 Deg. And also has a heavier shaft. It may be the Goldilocks. Super long off the tee, almost as long as my driver and just a slight draw. Still need to spend some time on fairway shots, but it is promising. The problem is that I don’t really like the way it looks, and it sounds weird to me. Also trying out a 4 utility iron. Super hot face, launches low bullets that run like a scalded dog, but oddly satisfying. Probably a club to keep, but not use much unless it is very dry and firm or very windy.
  21. I contacted both Tour Edge and Rock Bottom Golf about exchanging the club. If I had bought it directly from Tour Edge than their playability guarantee would be honored. I needed an order number which I didn’t have. Because I bought it through Rock Bottom I had to contact them first. It was not one of the clubs that had the 90 day playability guarantee from Rock Bottom. Generally it is only the new release clubs that come with that. No worries though. With what I saved on the purchase, I can buy another shaft and either give away or sell the Evenflow 65 g 5.5 shaft to recoup the cost of a new shaft from EBay. Seeing as how I bought this with trade in credit and also got a good deal on it, I feel like it was a free club. The EXS Ti 4 utility that I just received was put into play today for the first time and it is awesome! I’m still waiting on the EXS Pro 5 wood that is backordered. Rock Bottom did allow me to change my order for the EXS Pro 5 wood to a heavier shaft after I figured out what my problem with the Evenflow shaft was. Now I’ll be getting the Tensei Orange 75 gram stiff.
  22. I traded in a bunch of clubs and got a 25% trade in bonus and had a 10% coupon too! Used the money to order a bunch of stuff for my wife and I. The CBX 119 was purchased to replace a Tour Edge EX10 4 wood that I’ve had for a while that hooks a little too often for me and is a bit beat up. It is a great looking and sounding club but I’ve already figured out that unfortunately I did not order a stiff enough shaft. The new CBX 119 16.5 with the Evenflow Blue 65 5.5 shaft is producing high hooks for me which is what I was trying to fix with the EX 10. The CBX 119 is not returnable so I will be pulling the shaft and putting in something heavier and stiffer with lower tip torque. So after some internet research it is off to EBay to get some shafts and the tinkering will begin anew.
  23. Rock bottom golf is selling new old stock CBX 119 fairways for $119 right now. Just got one last week. No returns.
  24. The 7 wood has become a very popular club among the men’s group that I play in. Last year I added a Tour Edge XCG7 21 degree 7 wood with a stiff shaft to my bag. It was a brand new, never used old stock club bought cheaply and has proven to be the best fairway wood I’ve ever had to hit shots off of the deck. It has a shallow face with a long and low pancake shape to it, but it works for me as my 210-220 yard club. I am just now starting the testing of some 4 & 5 woods now for off the tee. My recent tests have only been productive so far in showing me what doesn’t work. Waiting on some more clubs to arrive and some different shafts to move forward. Fairway woods are the bane of many an amateur golfer. I’m heading in the direction of slightly heavier shafts designed specifically for fairway woods to see if that will help.
  25. I love hybrids for the height and carry distance they provide. My only problem with hybrids is that I tend to hit hooks with them. Over the last ten years I have replaced my hybrids more often than any other clubs searching for the right ones. Even after getting fit for Titleist 818 H1 hybrids that were better than what I had before, they still went left more often than I would like. I finally found a couple of hybrids that aren’t going left. Both are from Tour Edge. Last year I put a new old stock XCG7 28 degree hybrid in the bag and just this week put a C721 25 degree hybrid in the bag. The 25 degree is my new 195-205 yard club and the 28 degree is my 170-180 yard club. A few questions: What are you trying to gain with a hybrid? Do you want more total distance or more carry distance? Are you needing more height, better landing angle and spin to get more stopping power on the green than your irons are providing? Is shot shape correction or miss hit forgiveness important? Depending on your answers might determine if a utility iron, hybrid or high lofted fairway wood would be more suited to your needs. After many attempts, I’m still trying to nail down which clubs work best for me on the top end of my bag. My recent experiments with higher lofted hybrids and fairway woods have shown that I can get more height and carry distance and about the same total distance as the lower lofted versions I had been using. Good luck with your search.
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