KurtActual

The post man dropped off the 60* today... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

I'll definitely join in, albeit late, if I can find a wood or two. Im thinking the ~1985 3i doesnt go as far as they do these days.

This is how we practice short game at my house. Wiffleball flop shots into the trampoline. https://www.instagram.com/p/CHTwLMCA3wh/

I’ve been putting in a lot of practice with my 56* on my home set up and in the yard. Still waiting on the 60* to show up. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

The combination of rough and insane greens are killing these guys. This isn’t the “omg look at the rough” grass like they had at Harding Park, but it’s tough to recover from. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

So I was really speaking to the ball flight. Seems to just rocket off the face. I didnt realize, until reading your post, just how silent the contact is. You're absolutely right.

I haven't made it to the course yet, and I am still waiting on my 60*, but my initial tests from my home chipping area is that the ball explodes off the face of these compared to my Wilson Staff FG Tour 56*

Dude, those wedges are gorgeous!

I am really interested in the next Srixon test, to see if there is a pattern, or if the Q-Star is the bad apple.

Sorry I am late to the thread, just finished a round trip roadtrip to Nashville. I am stoked to have been chosen for this test. My wedge game is my absolute weakness, and source of most frustration during a round. I try my best to remember RGC's rule 17b: Laugh at the bad shots But when it's every other hole where I miss a scoring opportunity because the wedge game, I struggle to laugh.

The Review {12/8/2020} Cleveland RTX Zipcore Tour Rack Wedges– Official MGS Forum Review by KurtActual Intro Hey guys. Kurt here. I am a 35-year-old Texan. I am a self-taught golfer, but considering my handicap was last logged at a 21, I am not sure how much teaching actually took place. The courses I play most often have punishing Bermuda rough (think Houston Open) and the fairways are usually very tight lies with dry hardpacked earth. Scrambling has unfortunately been a strength to my game, and I say unfortunate because it means I am depending on it often. I struggle with long irons, so my short game is important if I hope to drop my handicap. I had a recent mishap with my 60* Cleveland RTX 588 wedge, which left me with just a Wilson Staff FG Tour 56* and an OLD Taylormade 52*. When this test popped up, I crossed all my fingers and hoped I could find a solid replacement for that old 60*. The rounds I played without the lob wedge in my bag forced me to be creative with my sand wedge, opening the club face for more loft and taking lines I don’t normally try. When approaching the green from 100y out, my 52* is normally the club in hand. I have to lay off it a bit, as it’s more 105 to 110, but that’s the gap I deal with. Enough about me, lets take a look at these clubs. First Impressions First impressions… these clubs are professional. The milling, the grooves, the hand polished finish. The RTX Zipcore technology isn’t exactly marketed clearly. To try and explain exactly what Zipcore technology IS isn’t exactly easy. My best understanding in layman’s terms is a less dense inner material so Cleveland could control clubface center-of-gravity. I’ll be honest. I have no way to test or compare that, but what has amazed me is these grooves. I’ve always associated Cleveland Golf with being an industry leader in the wedge sector. I know a lot of people will scoff and point at Vokey/Titleist. Titleist has a lot of wedges on Tour, but I think when it comes to amateur golf, Cleveland is the big dog. When offered these wedges, we the testers could choose loft, sole, and leading edge grind. I chose a 60* Relief Edge Sole Grind with a Sharpened Leading Edge, and a 56* S-Shaped Sole Grind with a Standard Leading Edge. I chose the Relief Edge on the lob wedge because of the lower leading edge when opening the face. This characteristic combined with the sharpened leading edge was specific to the firm conditions my courses normally have during these 9-month summers we have in Texas. I chose the S-Shaped sole for the sand wedge, as Cleveland described it as giving improved versatility and bunker play. I will gladly accept any assistance getting out of the terrible bunkers I am subjected to, so that was an easy choice for me. For me, I am hoping for extreme workability from these wedges. The grinds and leading edge options allowed me to build wedges that I hope can be used in any situation, from any lie, while still being able to apply significant spin and control. Grading: Looks (9 out of 10 points) These Tour Rack wedges are almost all about looks. They’re raw steel, with only a hand polish. They’re intended to rust. The shape Cleveland has chosen is traditional, and easy on the eyes. The grooves are so deep they appear to be filled with black paint. After enough playing and rust, they aren’t as dark, but I like the look of the dark grooves on the raw face. The toe of the club has a unique milling design on it, which prevents glare, and gives confidence that even a slightly mis-hit shot would have spin applied. My only complaint is the odd looking “bubble” where Zipcore is stamped. It doesn’t appear to have a purpose. The rust is an eye catcher. Not blingy like a gold plated or rainbow torched wedge. You’ll get a lot of side-eye looks out of interest. I did find it interesting that the rust and sharp grooves combined would leave marks on a new Z-Star. Sound & Feel (9 out of 10 points) I think the sound and feel might be the most unique feature of these wedges. I find that a typical wedge will emphasize the sound of a ball based on the ball’s construction. A 3+ layer ball with high compression usually has a punchier feel and crisp sound. Two piece balls are either completely dead sounding, or incredibly loud and clicky. These wedges are special though. Perhaps it’s the razor-sharp grooves, or the magic Zipcore material, but there is almost a uniform sound across my repertoire of practice and gamer balls. My only complaint, if forced to find one, would be the lack of “flushed” shot feedback. My swings felt like they produced a rather muted result with sound and feel regardless of ball, swing, and contact. Basic Characteristics (18 out of 20 points) In a house with two younger boys, we like to make games out of our golf practice. One way is to play Wedge-shot Dodgeball. My kids jump in the trampoline and try to catch the wiffleballs I flop into the net. Another practice we do, is just basic chip shots. I have a couple sections of synthetic turf (Synlawn) and practice fringe/first cut/rough shots towards the pin. I find in my super short-game practices, these wedges have excellent control and accuracy. They also have incredible spin. This allows me to really open the clubface and shape shots. On-Course Performance (28 out of 30 points) I have to admit I played a little less this season than I anticipated. I spent a lot of my "golf time points" to volunteer at the Houston Open. I spent 4+ days standing in this same spot working the laser on the ShotLink team. (You can see the Bermuda rough I previously referenced well here) On course is where these clubs shine. They inspire so much confidence. The grinds that I was able to choose from, and finally select, were perfect for the courses in my area. While I do not have statistics to prove anything, I feel that the sharpened leading edge on the lob wedge has reduced the number of bladed shots. The wedge sweeps tight lies on hardpack much better than clubs I've used in the past. Wedge to wedge, again I cannot provide hard data to prove it, but the Zipcore just spins so much more than my Wilson Staff. Before you write me off, I clean and sharpen the grooves on my WS regularly. Perhaps the material that Cleveland has chosen for these wedges allows the grooves to be more sharp and hold their edge better. Overall, these wedges really confirmed that Cleveland is the big dog in the wedge market in my opinion. They are constantly trying to improve and be the best. From grind options to testing new technology, they do not leave any leaf unturned. Miscellaneous (10 out of 10 points) Cleveland just seems to get it. From their social media presence, to the level of customer support; they seem like a company invested in us rather than the bottom line. They shipped these custom clubs quickly, and took care of the issues our testing group had. Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points) Play it, 100%. These clubs inspire confidence in all situations. The natural "patina" or rust, is similar to a custom paint job. No one will ever have a club identical to yours. These wedges will work for literally any handicap golfer, thanks to the custom grinds. Conclusion Quick recap: These Cleveland RTX Zipcore Tour Rack wedges put a Tour level wedge at your fingertips. Custom grinds, custom rust, and performance to match make these a fit for anyone. Final Score: (94 out of 100 points)

Anyone know what happens when two of us are tied? Edit: I see where they will track ties. Whoops Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

Touche.

Wouldnt you prefer to find a wedge that has custom grind options?

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Man, if the Titans forfeit another week, and if the Pats have to force a bye, I am in deep dookie. This has been one weird season after such a good draft.

At least you didnt leave Odell's 38 points on the bench.

Karma for not trading Chubb. Ankle injury and 5 points. RIP.

I must be missing something. For mobile: Click on "Players" box. Apply Filters. This could be position type, etc (Default setting shows only Free Agents) I sort one of two ways; YTD Points Decending, or Projected Points Decending. Click on Player, then "Manage" at the top right. Add him from there. Managing the roster is even easier. Click "Lineup" Highlight the guys you want playing. (It shows YTD Points and Projected points here too) Submit.

Cmon south! It's 84* in Houston!

Pretty vague if you ask me.

I see that they do have a policy, but it is unclear how many guys are tested, how often, and whether or not it is only during the season or could include off season. I'd suggest anyone interested in Steroid abuse in sports to watch the Netflix dramamentary "Icarus"

RE: Trades. Sorry I've declined every offer so far. To get the #2 overall QB, or the #8/#9 Running Backs from me would take players in similar positions. I've got 2 top 10 TEs, the number 5 Def... The trades have to make sense.

Anybody thought to add drug testing tour players? There were plenty of accusations after Bryson won the RMC. Sure would put an end to this recent distance debate if someone manufactured distance with steroids. (Not making the claim, just offering another solution)