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I will be anxious to hear what the dark coloration is caused by (other than from the grip). Your grip looks fine - maybe a tad toward the grip cap but not excessively so. BTW - that coloration is why I do not like white grips. I use Pure grips so I can not get the back coloration.

Haha - I wrote up that reply and then look in email and this was from an email the RR just sent out So there is your answer

Wow! I sure hope people are not going to torch you for this or that and I am sure RR can help you out with what this is showing. From my perspective - there is a ton of wear on the thumb and in the pad of the palm. The glove is super dirty/dark. The wear in the thumb would indicate to me that you are regripping, or doing something where you are moving that thumb relative to the grip - if you think about that connection, there would be zero wear if there was no movement. The heel pad of the palm could be a few things, regripping or you are holding the club way off the knob of the grip - meaning the knob of the grip hits there and is wearing that spot. To me the fingers look short and too big. I enclosed three pictures of gloves that I have in use right now. I hate white gloves because they will show dirt too easily IMO - yes I am showing a couple. I am in the process of transitioning to RR gloves over the last year and trying out many styles and sizes - I have learned a lot with Kerry and Brad's help. Side note: how crazy is that that you get to talk to the owners I used to regrip a lot and would wear out the thumb and the heel pad of my palm. I messed with my grips and my grip and feel I am in a in a better place and my grips last longer I am sure RR will get you going in the right direction.

Why should I be a tester? Let me count the ways I have been playing golf forever - 50+ years. I started playing with my parents , we would go play after dinner all the time and our cat would follow us on the course. The journey has been pretty wild since then. I have a habit of changing equipment far too often and am always searching for new ways to get better. I do all of my own club work, a lot of grip work. Transitioned from tape and solvent to air installation when I moved to Pure grips. Then they went out of business, but I bought a stockpile of them before they went under. I have a Foresight GC Quad based simulator in my house - a couple of images enclosed of the room, along with all of the wood shafts from a long term test of shafts to find what worked best for me (yes I have been through many fittings, but there is a lot more you can do on your own when there are no time limits). I have a 10 x 10 x 10 hitting cage in my yard to hit outside, along with an artificial green where I spend many hours a year putting and chipping. I am an engineer that has done many scientific tests many on automative parts, and full vehicles. These included data acquisition, to analysis and the design of the test to begin with. I also do Finite Element Analysis to analyze full structures and systems. I design and build loudspeakers and in true engineer fashion - love taking thongs apart to see how they work. Lastly I have a couple electric golf carts and have owned 3, so I have a ton of experience with them. I try to give feedback to companies about their products, but unfortunately most companies do not understand the value of feedback and ignore it, when they could listen to the customers to build the ultimate product in their given category and sell more product. Testing is in my blood.

Interesting comments - I may be able to provide some insight from my LAB journey that just got a new Stable Member yesterday. I got the DF3 with the TPT shaft - it is part of an experiment to test using a 79.5º lie angle with a standard putter. First - the shaft comparison. I have the Accra shaft in the MEZZ and MEZZ Max. I have the Stability shaft in 3 DF 2.1s. I have the TPT in a DF2.1 broom, a MEZZ Max broom and now the DF3 regular putter. I just rolled them to get it all clear in my head. Here are my impressions: Accra - have always loved this shaft for its very lively feel - not like it is whippy (yes a ridiculous descriptor of a putter shaft). I just like its lighter lively feel (my terms) Stability - it feels more solid than the Accra, but you might describe that as dead. In my mind it means less liveliness but maybe more accuracy due to less movement (movement being the lively.) These are all perceptions and zero measured data to back these feelings up TPT - this shaft is really a cross between the two. It feels like a more lively stability shaft - erring more on the stable side than lively but a really great feel. In the brooms it is amazing with its feel, but in the regular length that feel is still there, but your question is, is it worth $399 in a regular length putter. I would answer that with if money is an issue you will be plenty happy with the Accra. If the TPT is in your budget, I would go for it - I just really like that putter shaft. Short comment on the 79.5º experiment. I get the DF3 out and start rolling it on my PuttOut mat and miss EVERY one to the left. I start wondering if the floor has suddenly shifted so I start rolling putts with the other putters. Nope it is not eh floor. Oh god, did I just was a ton of $? I had played with grips prior to ordering the DF3, and I went to what I was doing before the order and everything locked in - I use left hand low but I have both index fingers down the shaft and I have two fingers interlocked - this allows me to hang my arms straight down and putt like an elephant trunk - all shoulders, much int he way that I putt with the broom. This locked everything in and I am playing tomorrow to check it out. I just think that you can not putt with your normal flat putter (70ish degree lie) and switch back and forth with the brooms. With the 79.5º lie normal length putter you can putt very similarly to the broom and it all seems to work. Yes I am nuts

Wow - what a great thread/question to ask. I think the first response here is a great one. I have been playing for 53 years now - starting playing with my dad when I was young. I have always enjoyed playing golf no matter what it was - casual, tournament, league, anything. It has been called the greatest game because the challenge is really with you and not vs someone else - haha, unless you let them in your head and make it against someone else. You learn a lot about people on the course and about yourself. There is not just the golf either - you can get into being a club ho, you can get into the golf gear as well - clothing, training stuff, simulators, backyard green. So many possibilities. For me golf is limitless in the possibilities where you can take it and just like during a round, the quality of your entire golf life is what do you focus on. Do you focus on the bad shot you just hit into the sh&t or does your mind immediately go into recovery mode and enjoy that recovery shot you pulled off. I think golf is what you make it and you can take it in so many directions. For me it is always fun. Awesome question!

Wow - you make me feel more normal. I just ordered a red one with TPT, but I went with 79.5º lie angle after using my two LAB brooms ((MEZZ Max Heavy TPT, DF 2.1 TPT). using a standard lie angle putter really pointed out what the more upright lie angle does in the stroke - which I really like. 2/4 week delivery - can't wait to get it. I totally agree with the TPT shaft - love that thing.

Haha - our group struggles with this one - we have 1-5 tee times each week and play a team game. The problem is when people are not using the same gimmie length if the putt matters. We used inside the leather but people did not follow it and some would rake 3-4 foot putts. So my solution was to give them the following rhyme: One-two, inside the shoe - you are done, three-four putt some more Meaning step it off, if you are outside two feet you putt it.

Very cool - thanks for the info. Always fun learning new stuff.

That was a serious comment - I am not trying to be a jerk. I have been an engineer for over 40 years and when you said there is no difference between the casting and forging, that goes against everything with respect to the two processes that I have known for a long time since castings will have voids in the metal structure, and in my mind it has to have an effect since a void is how a break happens. I am a hack club bender and would rather not break my clubs That was the reason for the question. That and I had some AP3s that were super difficult to move and my local shop would not touch them, deferring to Titleist to try and adjust them. So how does one find out if the cast iron is OK to bend?

Not to be argumentative, but if you look at this article and see the chart comparing casting and forging, the first item on Structural Integrity is a good description why I feel that forging is easier to bend than casting. Or maybe I should say more reliably bent. The more porous the end product is, the more likely you are going to have a gap in the area of the bend which can lead to breakage.

This is precisely why I asked the question. I just listened to a podcast where teh Titleist designers were on it, and I think the T200 and T350 have cast bodies - meaning I would not attempt to adjust them for fear of breaking and that they are tough as nails. The 100/150 are forged bodies. Thankfully my set is all 150s except the 5i Thanks for the replies. Its good to be able to adjust them but it can be bad because if you have a loft/lie machine and are a tinkerer, you might spend too much time messing with them

Does anyone know the breakdown on the T-Series irons, which are forged and what parts are forged? I am asking with respect to loft/lie adjustments.

Oh man - this is the pandora's box question I would say that if you hit the same quality of shot with each club the carry distance would be close to what you expect (as long as the specs of your clubs is what you think it should be - clubs are often out of spec and you have no clue). The reason you want to hit a series of shots is to make sure you catch a good one, and/or make sure your get a representation of your swing with each club. One shot is a crap shoot. I have a GC Quad and mess with this stuff all the time. For on the course I use Arccos and that is a big thing you get with it is "on course" numbers for the your clubs. I will watch my club distances and at times it has pointed to issues with loft or lie of clubs. I look at my miss locations and will adjust lie to try and help with that. I just ordered the T150 irons on Sunday and will have to be patient waiting for them to arrive It looks like the T series irons are forged? I am asking about the hosels so I know I can bend them with confidence. I had AP3s and they were case and an SOB to try and change the loft/lie.

Wow - a polarizing topic for sure. I am 61 and started playing when I was 10. For me if you rode in a cart you were a (insert derogatory term). I stopped carrying my bag quite a while ago because I would notice effects towards the latter end of the round and I would sweat way more. I use an electric remote cart and it is awesome. If you ride in a cart, do you ever play a shot with the wrong club because you do not want to go back to the cart or wait for your cart partner (cartner) to come back with your clubs? You grab clubs but not the right one for that shot. I also feel rushed in a riding cart - If I am the only one in the cart it would work better, but I lose the feel for the course in a riding cart - especially cartpath only. A lot of my shot starts as I am walking to the ball and noticing the surroundings and I am in a better state of mind. I walk unless forced to ride.