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I will be anxious to hear what the dark coloration is caused by (other than from the grip). Your grip looks fine - maybe a tad toward the grip cap but not excessively so. BTW - that coloration is why I do not like white grips. I use Pure grips so I can not get the back coloration.

Haha - I wrote up that reply and then look in email and this was from an email the RR just sent out So there is your answer

Wow! I sure hope people are not going to torch you for this or that and I am sure RR can help you out with what this is showing. From my perspective - there is a ton of wear on the thumb and in the pad of the palm. The glove is super dirty/dark. The wear in the thumb would indicate to me that you are regripping, or doing something where you are moving that thumb relative to the grip - if you think about that connection, there would be zero wear if there was no movement. The heel pad of the palm could be a few things, regripping or you are holding the club way off the knob of the grip - meaning the knob of the grip hits there and is wearing that spot. To me the fingers look short and too big. I enclosed three pictures of gloves that I have in use right now. I hate white gloves because they will show dirt too easily IMO - yes I am showing a couple. I am in the process of transitioning to RR gloves over the last year and trying out many styles and sizes - I have learned a lot with Kerry and Brad's help. Side note: how crazy is that that you get to talk to the owners I used to regrip a lot and would wear out the thumb and the heel pad of my palm. I messed with my grips and my grip and feel I am in a in a better place and my grips last longer I am sure RR will get you going in the right direction.

Why should I be a tester? Let me count the ways I have been playing golf forever - 50+ years. I started playing with my parents , we would go play after dinner all the time and our cat would follow us on the course. The journey has been pretty wild since then. I have a habit of changing equipment far too often and am always searching for new ways to get better. I do all of my own club work, a lot of grip work. Transitioned from tape and solvent to air installation when I moved to Pure grips. Then they went out of business, but I bought a stockpile of them before they went under. I have a Foresight GC Quad based simulator in my house - a couple of images enclosed of the room, along with all of the wood shafts from a long term test of shafts to find what worked best for me (yes I have been through many fittings, but there is a lot more you can do on your own when there are no time limits). I have a 10 x 10 x 10 hitting cage in my yard to hit outside, along with an artificial green where I spend many hours a year putting and chipping. I am an engineer that has done many scientific tests many on automative parts, and full vehicles. These included data acquisition, to analysis and the design of the test to begin with. I also do Finite Element Analysis to analyze full structures and systems. I design and build loudspeakers and in true engineer fashion - love taking thongs apart to see how they work. Lastly I have a couple electric golf carts and have owned 3, so I have a ton of experience with them. I try to give feedback to companies about their products, but unfortunately most companies do not understand the value of feedback and ignore it, when they could listen to the customers to build the ultimate product in their given category and sell more product. Testing is in my blood.

Interesting comments - I may be able to provide some insight from my LAB journey that just got a new Stable Member yesterday. I got the DF3 with the TPT shaft - it is part of an experiment to test using a 79.5º lie angle with a standard putter. First - the shaft comparison. I have the Accra shaft in the MEZZ and MEZZ Max. I have the Stability shaft in 3 DF 2.1s. I have the TPT in a DF2.1 broom, a MEZZ Max broom and now the DF3 regular putter. I just rolled them to get it all clear in my head. Here are my impressions: Accra - have always loved this shaft for its very lively feel - not like it is whippy (yes a ridiculous descriptor of a putter shaft). I just like its lighter lively feel (my terms) Stability - it feels more solid than the Accra, but you might describe that as dead. In my mind it means less liveliness but maybe more accuracy due to less movement (movement being the lively.) These are all perceptions and zero measured data to back these feelings up TPT - this shaft is really a cross between the two. It feels like a more lively stability shaft - erring more on the stable side than lively but a really great feel. In the brooms it is amazing with its feel, but in the regular length that feel is still there, but your question is, is it worth $399 in a regular length putter. I would answer that with if money is an issue you will be plenty happy with the Accra. If the TPT is in your budget, I would go for it - I just really like that putter shaft. Short comment on the 79.5º experiment. I get the DF3 out and start rolling it on my PuttOut mat and miss EVERY one to the left. I start wondering if the floor has suddenly shifted so I start rolling putts with the other putters. Nope it is not eh floor. Oh god, did I just was a ton of $? I had played with grips prior to ordering the DF3, and I went to what I was doing before the order and everything locked in - I use left hand low but I have both index fingers down the shaft and I have two fingers interlocked - this allows me to hang my arms straight down and putt like an elephant trunk - all shoulders, much int he way that I putt with the broom. This locked everything in and I am playing tomorrow to check it out. I just think that you can not putt with your normal flat putter (70ish degree lie) and switch back and forth with the brooms. With the 79.5º lie normal length putter you can putt very similarly to the broom and it all seems to work. Yes I am nuts

Wow - what a great thread/question to ask. I think the first response here is a great one. I have been playing for 53 years now - starting playing with my dad when I was young. I have always enjoyed playing golf no matter what it was - casual, tournament, league, anything. It has been called the greatest game because the challenge is really with you and not vs someone else - haha, unless you let them in your head and make it against someone else. You learn a lot about people on the course and about yourself. There is not just the golf either - you can get into being a club ho, you can get into the golf gear as well - clothing, training stuff, simulators, backyard green. So many possibilities. For me golf is limitless in the possibilities where you can take it and just like during a round, the quality of your entire golf life is what do you focus on. Do you focus on the bad shot you just hit into the sh&t or does your mind immediately go into recovery mode and enjoy that recovery shot you pulled off. I think golf is what you make it and you can take it in so many directions. For me it is always fun. Awesome question!

Wow - you make me feel more normal. I just ordered a red one with TPT, but I went with 79.5º lie angle after using my two LAB brooms ((MEZZ Max Heavy TPT, DF 2.1 TPT). using a standard lie angle putter really pointed out what the more upright lie angle does in the stroke - which I really like. 2/4 week delivery - can't wait to get it. I totally agree with the TPT shaft - love that thing.

Haha - our group struggles with this one - we have 1-5 tee times each week and play a team game. The problem is when people are not using the same gimmie length if the putt matters. We used inside the leather but people did not follow it and some would rake 3-4 foot putts. So my solution was to give them the following rhyme: One-two, inside the shoe - you are done, three-four putt some more Meaning step it off, if you are outside two feet you putt it.

Very cool - thanks for the info. Always fun learning new stuff.

That was a serious comment - I am not trying to be a jerk. I have been an engineer for over 40 years and when you said there is no difference between the casting and forging, that goes against everything with respect to the two processes that I have known for a long time since castings will have voids in the metal structure, and in my mind it has to have an effect since a void is how a break happens. I am a hack club bender and would rather not break my clubs That was the reason for the question. That and I had some AP3s that were super difficult to move and my local shop would not touch them, deferring to Titleist to try and adjust them. So how does one find out if the cast iron is OK to bend?

Not to be argumentative, but if you look at this article and see the chart comparing casting and forging, the first item on Structural Integrity is a good description why I feel that forging is easier to bend than casting. Or maybe I should say more reliably bent. The more porous the end product is, the more likely you are going to have a gap in the area of the bend which can lead to breakage.

This is precisely why I asked the question. I just listened to a podcast where teh Titleist designers were on it, and I think the T200 and T350 have cast bodies - meaning I would not attempt to adjust them for fear of breaking and that they are tough as nails. The 100/150 are forged bodies. Thankfully my set is all 150s except the 5i Thanks for the replies. Its good to be able to adjust them but it can be bad because if you have a loft/lie machine and are a tinkerer, you might spend too much time messing with them

Does anyone know the breakdown on the T-Series irons, which are forged and what parts are forged? I am asking with respect to loft/lie adjustments.

Oh man - this is the pandora's box question I would say that if you hit the same quality of shot with each club the carry distance would be close to what you expect (as long as the specs of your clubs is what you think it should be - clubs are often out of spec and you have no clue). The reason you want to hit a series of shots is to make sure you catch a good one, and/or make sure your get a representation of your swing with each club. One shot is a crap shoot. I have a GC Quad and mess with this stuff all the time. For on the course I use Arccos and that is a big thing you get with it is "on course" numbers for the your clubs. I will watch my club distances and at times it has pointed to issues with loft or lie of clubs. I look at my miss locations and will adjust lie to try and help with that. I just ordered the T150 irons on Sunday and will have to be patient waiting for them to arrive It looks like the T series irons are forged? I am asking about the hosels so I know I can bend them with confidence. I had AP3s and they were case and an SOB to try and change the loft/lie.

Wow - a polarizing topic for sure. I am 61 and started playing when I was 10. For me if you rode in a cart you were a (insert derogatory term). I stopped carrying my bag quite a while ago because I would notice effects towards the latter end of the round and I would sweat way more. I use an electric remote cart and it is awesome. If you ride in a cart, do you ever play a shot with the wrong club because you do not want to go back to the cart or wait for your cart partner (cartner) to come back with your clubs? You grab clubs but not the right one for that shot. I also feel rushed in a riding cart - If I am the only one in the cart it would work better, but I lose the feel for the course in a riding cart - especially cartpath only. A lot of my shot starts as I am walking to the ball and noticing the surroundings and I am in a better state of mind. I walk unless forced to ride.

I Have used Delilahs covers It was a blast deigning the cover and she does great work. The leather is super soft - I have been thrilled with these. The putter cover is for a LAB Golf DF 2.1 - the cover she helped me design is WAY better than the LAB Golf cover - theirs hits the shaft and is hard to open and close - this one solved that issue and is easy to take of and put back on - I want to do another one and put a notch in the flap I do not recall the final cost but it was not bad. $80ish It takes a while to get in the queue and then back and forth with her, but you will be amazed at what you get when you are done.

3-5 rounds? Yowza. IMO the wear depends on the golfer - if you have a solid grip and do not regrip during the swing, the glove will last a lot longer. I was testing 2 RR gloves before being sidelined with a medical issue. IMO the RR gloves and pretty amazing and will last way longer than the 10 rounds they talk about. I had maybe 5 rounds in for 2 gloves and they were conforming to my hands like I like gloves to do and they had essentially no wear, but I can wear a glove for 30-40 rounds these days - since I stopped regripping and wearing a hole in the palm the two I was using are the Saddle and Scotts Silver - I do not like white gloves since they show stains too easily and these two are keepers for sure.

I only have 2 in there so I got out more gloves and 5 can fit in there. There is a mesh pouch on one side - so there is flexibility in how you arrange them in there as well. MyGolfSpy just put out a promotion with Red Rooster and I got another 2 gloves and a second glove compartment. It is 30% off - 24 hours only - deal

This is a great discussion topic! I think the key is the club/turf interactions, With irons this is huge because no matter how good the mat is, the interaction will not be the same. For woods, I have a simulator and pretty much everyone has a different indoor swing, AND the tee issue is hard to overcome. Hitting from the plastic castles will not give you the same results, and even if you can peg a normal tee in your mat, it never seems to be the same either. You can do fittings inside and you can compare A to B easily, but if you want results that are going to more closely match your on-course results, you have to go outside so that everything will the same as when you play. There are exceptions to every rule/comment, but in general I have found that outdoor is king. If you are hitting range balls versus your ball, then that is another story - the balls need to be decent and close to your ball as well.

I recently saw a review of the Red Rooster Rain Rooster glove and it sounded awesome. I decided to go and check it out and most like.y order it. This is the funniest part of this review - I did not order the Rain Roster because they did not have my size (Medium/Large). There are no Cadet sizes in the Rain Rooster either. I wear a Cadet Medium/Large and have forever struggled with getting gloves to fit in all areas. My issue is the pinkie finger - either I have a terribly short pinkie finger or most gloves have one that is too long. Even after finding out that they did not have what I was originally looking for, I started investigating things on their site. I had picked out some stuff and had some issues with my order and was going to just bag things and forget about Red Rooster, but I decided to send an email in with my issues and I get a response back from one of the owners, Kerry Moher, and he convinced me to go ahead and place my order. I ordered 4 gloves and the Glove Compartment. The gloves ordered were: The Saddle - black The Scots Silver The Whiteoout The Freeze I am reviewing the first two since I have not had time to use the last two. I prefer dark colored gloves because white ones tend to look pretty bad just a few rounds into their lives. Let me start with the Glove Compartment (GC). I am not sure about you but in the summer months when it is hot, I tend to rotate 2-3 gloves during a round so that I maintain a dry grip and am not damaging them by playing a wet glove. The GC has two velcro circles where you can attach gloves. I only use about a third of a circle per glove since I do not want to struggle getting them off. I use the circles when i am not using the glove and it has an iron grip so that is a huge help IMO. The GC is also a storage area as well. There is a nice carabineer to attach it to your bag. /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7227D.jpeg The GC unzips to access the inside. Right now I am just storing the two gloves in there but I think 4 would be better so they do not slide down much. /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7228D.jpeg Here you can see the glove attached to the velcro circle. I think I could easily hang 4 of them on there if I wanted to. /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7230D.jpeg I am always amazed at how fat hands look in pictures So how do these things fit. Well, they fit so well, this led to a problem for me. How in the hell do I get the thing off - I am not kidding. I get to the first green to putt and go to take the glove off, and I can not get a hold of the tips of the fingers to get them off. I took a few holes to break them in and make it possible to pinch the finger tips and get the glove off. I have used both of the gloves for 4-5 rounds each. I think most people wear gloves that a too loose - I wear them fairly tight - then the do not wear as much and provide a better grip. You can see on the first glove there is hardly any wear after 4 rounds of play and you can tell that it is starting to form itself to my hand and you can see the pinkie finger is super well fitting - like they used my hand as the source to make the glove. There is also a logo on the bottom of the cuff that serves as a pull tab and it is perfect as well. The gloves are not inexpensive nor are they expensive - you can visit their website here. The whole experience so far has been awesome for me and I am looking forward to testing out the rest of the gloves I bought and other models once these guys wear out. I have provided images of the black glove below, as well. I hate sounding like a shill with an overly positive review, but these gloves and the GC have met or exceeded my expectations in all areas. There was one thing that caught me off guard at first and that was the lack of a glove case - they come in a thin cellophane bag of sorts, but since I have the GC, I have no use for a case (plastic container most gloves come in). If you give them a shot, I think you will be very happy with the effort. /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7232D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7231D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7233D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7234D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7235D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7236D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7237D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7238D.jpeg /Users/ajlacombe/Downloads/IMG_7239D.jpeg

Right - I think the mistake that PXG made was with their claims. If you claim that you are better than ProV1, you better be better than ProV1. If you just said your ball was good you can allow word of mouth to build the momentum for your ball and then the community will figure out where it fits. Now they are building a negative momentum that will have to be overcome before they get back to ground zero. Big mistake IMO to make that claim when clearly the ball has issues

I am not sure why I did not put the logo price in there - it is $71 a dozen - or nearly $6 a ball. Yeah outrageous ,but they are cool

Thanks for the update. I finally got to see the Rick Shiels review yesterday and it kind of confirmed some things. It is a clicky sounding ball and that it may not be what they are claiming. I can not rail on a ball I have not played. Let me just say that I ordered 3 dozen over 2 weeks ago and was told that despite them saying "In Stock" on their website that they would not get their next shipment until mid-February. Yesterday since they had not shipped, I cancelled the order. It just rubbed me the wrong way and felt deceptive to get and hold orders. My need in a ball is to have: Reduced driver spin - more sidespin but a little on backspin No zip back with iron approaches Greenside spin so I can stop chips Softer feel In contrast I ordered a custom Titleist log ball order (for a ton of $ which hurt to do), but those balls were in my hands 5 days later. The ProV1s I ordered were perfectly done with the logo and custom number.

I am curious on your results as to what it is about your swing that is achieving results that are kind of counter to Titleist descriptions. Ever since they flipped the spin characteristics between the ProV1 and ProV1x, it has been confusing. So diagnosing the fact that you hit everything high "with spin", I would say you have a negative angle of attack on your shots - versus hitting it high with less spin being positive angle of attack. I do not like the ProV1x because it gives me the hated spin back. I am not sure who would ever want that because IMO it can not be controlled (on an approach). The Left Dash is good but for chipping I do not like the harder feel and I like to fly the ball to the hole and stop it - that is not possible IMO with the LD. The ProV1 ticks all the boxes for me - except durability - the shine wears off nd I start to wonder when that will significantly affect my shots. I have PXG balls on order but they went through their initial 800 dozen in short order and are supposed to have the second wave by now but mine have not shipped yet. From all the comments it sounds like the ball may be between the ProV1 and the ProV1x but closer to the X. My questions will be - does it spin back on approaches and how is the overall spin. I want a ball that only really spins in short game shots. Looking forward to getting them - if they ever ship. A note on shipping, I ordered the PXG balls 10 days ago and they have not shipped. I ordered custom logo balls from Titleist 5 days ago and they are delivering today

I think this would be an easier question to ask in reverse - any balls that should be left out I would like to see everything, but the questions I would like to see are more related to testing. I think you have your test in pretty good shape, but an area that I would like to see investigated revolves around damage. I just had a round where I played really well and managed to hit the cartpath 5 times in a round and got a bunch of ball wounds. I was testing 2 balls from a Titleist ball fitting and was testing the 2023 ProV1 vs the ProV1 left dash. The Left Dash has been my preferred ball for some time and it actually sustained some cutting of the cover. The cuts being flaps torn into the cover - the kind of thing where I will usually pull a ball. So my thoughts on one area to test is this: Variations of damage to performance Minor scuff Tar mark from fresh pavement Cover cuts Loss of shine - ProV1 is classic for doing this with regular use Once you have the list above, what happens to: Tee shots (Direction, Carry, Overall) Approach (Direction, Carry, Spin) Shorter shots and Chips (Spin) I am just curious as to how does the damage affect the balls. I am sure the reason we do not see much on this is because you have to figure out how to damage the balls and if the damage is not similar you are comparing apples to oranges. So how about you come up with a damage test: Fire balls from a type of canon at various paths (Concrete, Pavement). That gives you the damage, then carry out the test with those damaged balls. Sorry for the long post, but I think you get the idea of what I am looking for in this test. I think that this issue may be more important for most golfers than the regular performance numbers, because if the damage is killing the performance, you need to pull the ball - which no one likes to do