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11iron

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  1. Those who play stiff shafts in your irons: do you play your specialty wedges with the standard wedge flex, or stiffer?
  2. Thanks for your replies, cnosil and golfertrb. I will of course hit the clubs myself, for now I am still in info-gathering mode (although I may wait for the next iterations of these clubs in January). I think you are correct cnosil, without any alternate explanations, that the discrepancy is attributable to different testers, although I would have hoped that testers would be selected so as clubs we know to hit longer, higher, and faster would actually hit longer, higher, and faster, not only within tests but between tests conducted at the same time by the same site under the same guidelines for the same purpose. None of the MGS tests can claim statistical significance, but I guess I hoped that there was an explanation that would still support broader practical significance. Some nuggets of useful info nonetheless.
  3. I am a fan of the great data MGS provides, and dive into it often as a means of narrowing down fitting options. I am considering a new set of players irons, have always played (and loved) Ping irons, so am looking at i210 and i500. The selling point of the i500s is higher speed, longer distance, and higher trajectory, whereas the i210s are touted for feel, consistency, and precision. But, the 2019 MGS Most Wanted data has higher ball speed, longer carry and total distance, and higher apex for the i210 vs the i500 across every tested club: 5I, 7I, and PW. Any considered thoughts on this would be appreciated.
  4. I finally heard back from the USGA on my question. To close the loop, while the USGA measures spin in their conformity tests, they do not use this data for these ratings. These ratings (as Angry Yeti postulated) are merely subjective OEM ratings, meaning a M ball could in fact be higher spin than an H ball.
  5. I have seen the test protocols before, but not the video, thank you. While you may be correct that L M H are taken from OEM literature, I would be surprised if that were the case. I understand they are not testing spin for conformity, but they could easily categorize the balls based on their readings. Doesn't look like anyone knows for sure (at least not thus far), so I will hope that the USGA eventually answers my question. Thank you for the link to the video.
  6. Yes indeed spin on any given shot is player and strike dependent. That is not what these numbers are. They are representative of the ball's relative performance in general. How wide a range the M is would be valuable in comparing balls for some so inclined. You may not be that person, and I completely understand that, but I most definitely could extract value with the numbers.
  7. You got it: RPM for each rating. May help some (would definitely help me) with ball understanding and potentially focus selection based on extrapolated personal launch monitor spin data. I can appreciate where the letters only would certainly be beneficial to most.
  8. That is indeed the list I am referring to. My question was about the RPM ranges for L M and H spin categories. Would add context.
  9. USGA lists golf balls on their conforming list as L M H spin for driver and short iron. I can't find anywhere that states the RPM ranges for these categories, and they have not answered my inquiry. Does anyone have this info?
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