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  1. 36 minutes ago, NRJyzr said:

    I've played both the MTB Black and Vice Pro, still have some of each.  Some rather anecdotal observations...

    The Vice feels quite a bit firmer than the Snell; I feel I could play the Snell, but the Vice has essentially become a Ping irons only golfball for me (lol).  I especially noticed this a couple weeks ago, when I played each ball for a hole or two, with my persimmons.  The Snell had an acceptable feel, the Vice, not so much.  Actually put the Vice back in the bag after I finished the hole with it, didn't want to hit it with a persimmon again.   😉

    Continuing with anecdotal observations, I've felt like the Vice is a little shorter.  This could be spin, but I've got no data to back that up, just an observation over the years of how spin affects my iron distance.  They're not obscenely short, but I do notice a bit of difference.

    I haven't noticed anything starkly different in short game with either ball.  

    Personal preference has me heavily leaning Snell, of the two of these.

    I feel the same way about it. The funny thing is my league partner hits Ping Irons and he loves his Vice. I have tried hitting his clubs and haven't been able to hit them well ha. Just made me chuckle when you mentioned it. I did notice the MTB X was a little clicky with the putter as well. I've decided I'm going to stick with the Black this year and see how they end up. I played yesterday and it was 48 degrees here. I don't think I was swinging full and warmed up until about the 8th tee. 

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  2. We'll it snowed yesterday..... I've been able to get out a couple times at least. But a few things I've noticed playing with them. The MTB-X does fair a little better in the wind. But with the approach shots I do feel like I've had really good distance control. It's been very consistent. Looking forward to using them when the weather starts getting above 50 again! And a side note. One of my league partners mentioned that it seemed like the ball was flying off the face and crushed. I was driving into the wind and it wasn't going as far as we thought. But I think that was more wind than the ball. Other than that. No new updates. 

  3. 16 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

    I haven't played either all that much but I too find the Snell better in the durability/wear category. While I still haven't adopted the one ball for me approach, the MTB Black would likely be my pick for overall value.

    We did notice that the vice were getting cut up a lot more with the wedges too. Interesting that you found that too. 

  4. 2 hours ago, pozzit said:

    Good Experiment. I'm really curious how your course testing goes. Short Game testing on course really showed the difference between balls for me. I used MTB-X last year and just bought 2 dozen for this year and I would be skeptical of the 10-15 yrds you mentioned especially with your sorter clubs. This may have been something with the simulator you were on or some off center hits with the others. 


    It's wasn't as much on the 56 and 50. More towards the 9 and 8 I guess. But I could definitely feel and see it come off the face quicker. It was also my concern when I saw it happening if it was something I was doing. Distance isn't an issue for me. Control is more important and my groups were tighter and more accurate with the MTB Black. It's been driving me crazy not being able to go try the simulator again or some on course testing. But I'll be patient ... I guess

  5. 1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

    It moves to the numero uno spot pick for my game ball.

    I find quite a few on our course. But for me I usually stick to the ball I've been using. My golfing partner loves hitting proVs but orders Vice with his works logo. So I usually trade him for a vice 😉

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  6. 2 hours ago, Retrogolfer36 said:

    Id be curious to hear which Vice ball you were using.  Ive played both Snell and Vice and they performed virtually identically for me.  I know that a lot of people buy into the claims from Snell that he designs the balls and has people are Foremost who are constantly checking quality but to be fair, this ball technology is nothing new, which is why all of these DTC companies are able to make 3 and 4-piece balls now.

    I was using the Vice Pro and Pro+. The two vice and the MTB X were all very similar to me. I think you can't go wrong with any of them. 

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  7. 2 minutes ago, IggyPOP said:

    Yea, I say "this is it" but somehow I always end up on my phone looking to spend on golf gear! Lol. I currently have to Ogio Cirrus cart bag but was looking at purchasing an Ogio Convoy! If you want to sell it, let me know, I might be interested!


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    Right on! I'll keep you posted. It hasn't seen the course yet. On the rack in the garage. If I decide I want something new I'll let you know. OGIO makes some great bags. 

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  8. Nice! I changed my bag this season too! I went back to the OGIO Convoy and I'm already looking at new bags again. I really like it but there's always a shiny new toy. Looking to swap out the Mizuno 50 for the new Vokey. I really want to add a portable launch monitor. Thought I had it dialed in then Ernest comes out with the new B1. Guess I'll start over!

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  9. On 7/17/2019 at 10:52 AM, golfertrb said:


    I always enjoy stories about good customer service - it seems unique these days to both have and hear so thank you! I have been interested in trying a Toulon with the Stroke Lab but they don't have a design I play. You are absolutely right about the feeling help with the stroke, I just couldn't get a good feel for speed. I'm not sure if that was the face or the shaft thus the interest in a Toulon. Let me know how you get on.

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    I was able to get a bunch of rounds in this last week with it. I had league as well as a 3 man scramble over the weekend. And on our way to the scramble we hit up a course. I was able to get about 90 holes in over 5 days. And I tell you that this putter saved me some strokes. The greens were a little slower on the course we hit before the scramble weekend. After a couple holes I was able to dial in. I used the 1-2 cadence in my head to try to get consistent pace while hitting. That gave me better control. On Saturday I was putting real well. I had about a 35 ft bomb that I picked a spot and it rolled true. I had similar feel on Sunday during the flighted round. I left quite a few short by just one or two revolution though. I attribute that partly to the fact we were 1st tee time in the morning. The dew was slowing us a little. But it was better the back 9 as things dried up. It was enjoyable and that little extra roll definitely helped me when I was putting on the courses I wasn't used to playing. I'm a big fan and it will be staying in my bag for the foreseeable future. 

    And another update on the customer service side. I called the number and they shipped me out the SS Toulon grip no problem. Excited to get those in the mail and ready to roll

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  10. Great review. Thanks for taking the time. I picked up a Toulon Design Atlanta with the stroke lab shaft. It's incredible on the practice green at the course and at home. Tomorrow is league night so I'll get my first chance to putt some real shots with it. It definitely feels like there is something to that counter balancing going on. I switched from a TaylorMade Mullen 2 which is 10 grams lighter. And it feels like a feather in comparison. But the stroke feels so smooth. I can also see a little more carry on the ball with my stroke. Where my TM would tend to lose momentum. This Toulon/Stroke Lab seems to carry the ball with some extra speed well and it rolls out nice. 

    Lastly, I have to give a shout-out to Callaway-Odyssey customer service. I reached out to them since I was being unnecessarily particular about the head cover. I really like the blade style and this one came with a Mallet style. They were gracious enough to send me a blade style and gave me a number to call so I could discuss getting regripped with my favorite pistol style grip from super stroke. They have it with the Toulon Design from the design garage and I got mine from the clubhouse. So big thanks to Callaway customer service from a very happy customer. 

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  11. Chris/ North Dakota

    11 Handicap

    Mizuno S18 50 degree, SM7 54 degree, SM6 60 Degree

    Favorite shot: Knock down 54 from around 100yds. Low and lots of spin!

    Thank you Cleveland for the opportunity. I used to hit all Cleveland wedges and slowly went away. Would love to see the difference in these from the old CGs

  12. Chris/Fargo, ND

     I use a rangefinder most shots. Eyeball when inside 90 yards usually. Going off feel more then. I also have a Garmin on my bag to see fronts/back of green.

    currently using TecTecTec VPRO500S

    Constantly testing against GPS and my buddies range finder to see how accurate it can be. I've had mine 2 years now and we still check to see if we get same results. 

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