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7 minutes ago, Autoflexusa said:
Are you calling me fat???? I’m Husky!!!
Nah, I don't even know ya. But "Husky" has been my general description for my entire life!! Besides, you're the Autoflex guy... We can't offend ya lest we never have the ability to get the insider news!
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15 hours ago, Autoflexusa said:
I’m going with Fat Perez…don’t ask me why, just love the guy.
How can you not love a fat guy that's a stick!!! And he's engaging and has a great sense of humor. That whole Bob Does Sports group is probably one of the better groups on the tube. I'd have to agree...
Though, I think it's fair to say I'd be torn cause I'd love to be on with Jergie and Wesley down at Selina.
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19 minutes ago, HikingMike said:
It looks like their Dynapower irons have always been shiny chrome, going back to 1954. So that's staying with their heritage there I guess. Even the red trim is there. Hard to beat that heritage in a product line, haha.
https://www.wilson.com/en-us/explore/golf/dynapower
And it will be fun to see how they do in the 2024 MGS iron testing. They have at least the 3 new iron lines, right?
- Players distance: Dynapower Forged
- Players: Staff Model cavity back & Staff Model blades
I think those would be their categories for MGS tests. Does that sound right? Though I don't think they actually had any blades or musclebacks in the 2023 players iron test. So probably take the blades out, and we'll see how the other two do.
I was looking back for the other Dynapower line and came across the 2022 players distance test and the Staff D9 Forged actually came up there as the runner up in that test. Nice finish. I think the Dynapower set was released in 2023 and it doesn't show up in the players distance test, so maybe Wilson did not submit those.
I believe you're correct. They have in fact always gone with a shiny chrome look to them. Well, except the ole John Daley clubs he played to win the Open. Like I say, they look beautiful. I just couldn't look down on the shine like that. But I know a lot of people love that look. Funny how we all see things different, but we all agree these things are beautiful looking. And apparently, they feel amazing to hit.
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Aaannddd.... the wheels of the machine keep on spinning!
Wilson certainly has produced a beautiful product here. The entire line is very clean and looks amazing compared to the wilson's of old that fell off the map. As a self professed Titleist ho, I would never switch over and play them..... But that doesn't mean that I can't admire what Wilson is doing for their fans.
The only thing I would comment, and it's just a personal preference... I've never been a "chromey" type person. I tend to like a more matt look to my irons. (Less glare and they don't look as beat up after a period of play) They look amazing and clean, but I'd love to know how they age after about a year of play cause they all look a bit too shiny for my personal preference.
Hope these check all the boxes though for those looking to game them. They certainly have stepped up their game and look like they deserve some definite consideration when folks are in the market for newer clubs.
- Rob Person, HikingMike, Shrek74 and 1 other
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15 hours ago, ShimmyCocoBop said:
Central Pennsylvania has some cool courses for cool prices.
Sunset GC in Middletown where BNewton51 lives is a fun place with jets coming in over your head on #1 fairway and dropping down onto the Harrisburg Airport in the middle of the Susquehanna River (by the old Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant). Last Fall when we were there, Air Force 1 was practicing "Touch & Go's" for about an hour. It was coming in so low that I felt like my wedge shots could hit it!
There is also Lebanon Valley GC, Blue Mountain GC, Fairview GC, Cool Creek GC, Range End GC, Carlisle Barracks GC, MayApple GC and Pine Meadows.
It's unfortunate if you are restricted to playing golf during the expensive times, but if you can sniff out Hot Deals on GolfNow and others, you can play nice courses for little money.
Right on! There are definitely good course, as you mentioned the ones above and they are all very good. Along with Dauphin Highlands, Royal Oaks, The Bridges and a boat load of others. Unfortunately, even their regular times frames are getting a bit more pricey for most folks. Don't get me wrong, though... It's STILL vastly cheaper than going down into the Philly swing or some of the courses towards Jersey and NY. Those can get salty quick.
Nice to hear someone on here is familiar with the "Hill". It's quirky for sure and definitely helps you learn how to play the wind very well.
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1 hour ago, rhaze91 said:
So I think this is the point I’m getting to. For golf freaks they will go find the deals, and find a more affordable way’s to play.
However I am trying to get my son into playing more and now as he moves out onto his own I can tell he’ll just quit playing. He seems to enjoy casually playing and would get into it, but as he gets to college and beyond will likely not play as it’s expensive.
I totally agree on the there are deals if you look, and the just don’t pay it. With clothing and accessories that is an option. Like someone else said with single clubs, like drivers it’s a super hard option. I could go buy used, but for how much I play it’s not the best option.
I just see the game getting out of reach to a lot of people and even more so with the club manufacturers as the price of clubs is getting higher.
Tale that seems almost NOT as old as time. More like, a Tale that is being written in THIS time.
Clubs have gotten to the point where it's absurd. When you're paying $600 for some putters, Drivers going upwards of $600-1000 depending on shafting options, irons that are approaching $2000, wedges approaching $200 a piece, bags that are $400, and the list keeps going on..... That's all before you take all those shiny new toys to the local course for them to look at you and think you're going to hand over to them $50+ a round with a smile on your face. It's just mind numbing.
Unfortunately, like you, I have son's that have grown to enjoy the game like me. Maybe not as crazy about it as I am, but they're athletic former college football guys, one now coaching full time... They simply can't see that it's financially available to them as much anymore BECAUSE it isn't. Especially when you add in the cost of living etc of everything in our todays society.
I'd love to be the optimist here and say we will see a reset soon enough. Sadly, I don't think so. Not in the cost to play aspect I'd say. Now, clubs I think you're starting to see it with brands like Tahkomo now taking off and becoming a force that has to be recognized at a decent price for all to afford. Heck, even PXG is realizing that they needed to come down in their prices. So equipment wise, I do believe we're seeing a reset. And that's only going to benefit the consumer. Hopefully at least.
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Quite the timely topic...
So our Tuesday League and Thursday League start in a couple weeks. We just had our captains meeting this past Tuesday and frankly I was extremely annoyed.
Living in Central PA, the cost of golf continues to escalate. At a rate that's actually more than the standard inflation costs for all things in our society. This year, for a 9 hole league, players are expected to pay $19 to walk and $26 to ride. Last year? $16/$22. Now, keep in mind, NO SUBSTANTIAL improvements have occurred on this local muni. In fact, the "bunkers" (in name only!) that are on this course haven't had new sand or appropriate drainage in them for at least a decade. The course typically gets overgrown with Clover and some of the fairways midseason end up with growth in them that essentially emulates a mine field. But, year on year, the cost of a round is going up $3 to $4 a round. That's wholly unacceptable.
What's difficult for me is that this is merely a moral issue more so than a financial. My daughter works at the course and as part of their rules, I get a free membership for that. So financially, it's not out of pocket for me. That said, I also get quite irritated because my team members don't have that luxury. And when I look at them and tell them the cost many will roll their eyes and have said each year "this may be my last with this nonsense." I get it, organizations are always trying to turn a profit. That's the way the world works. But when you see very clearly that people are just being GREEDY, that causes me a whole moral dilemma.
Funny enough, Dauphin Highlands (Yearly noted as one of the best courses in Cenn PA) is $1 more expensive. $100 more expensive for a yearly membership. Both are municipal run courses, while DH does have a management group in place so that the Muni doesn't have to do the work and can just collect the money. Regardless.... You look at that vs our local muni that's only 5 miles away from each other doesn't come close to saying our product is just as worth it as the other. That's where I just feel it's stupid, at best.
So overall, with the topic of this message, I completely agree. The costs have clearly jumped the shark and are frankly getting to a point where people will simply stop playing golf as much. Maybe that's their wish so that they have less upkeep etc... But that doesn't benefit the Golfer in my opinion. And that's a shame.
- Kenny B, StrokerAce and Rob Person
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12 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:
Wow a 4 nearly 5 year old thread. Sent me down memory lane, I really miss that combo of AP1/AP2, I think the 718 AP2 are some of the best looking irons I've ever had. But yeah, just like Crossfield, if you read my post on the previous page from when this thread originally posted, I had two 7 irons, the AP1 was 30 and the AP2 was 34.
It also shows how 5 years ago we were talking about "loft jacking" --I hate that term-with a 30 degree 7 iorn---now Titleist and others are at 28 with a 7 in the T350--so it continues
shows ya how much I paid attention! lol
It actually popped up cause I think someone responded and back I got the alert up top on the screen. But it is funny that the times change, but really not much. It's all what ever is relevant. and as you said, the 7 iron lofts now.... Back then we would have called people crazy for doing that!
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6 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:
In theory it would make sense to do that and in some ways eliminate confusion.
But it would also confuse the occasional or avenge player, who really doesn't pay attention to lots. They don't know how far a 32 degree iron should go, but they know how far a 7 iron should go. Even through you and I know 7 irons can range between 28 and 34 degrees depending on the model and company.
But golf companies make equipment for the masses, not the 1% of golfers that are forum addicts
John Barba has written a couple good articles on this discussion.
Along those lines, I saw Crossfield on YouTube has done some of this with his Srixons. He carry's two 6-irons. The lofts are obviously different and each plays at a different distance. I found it VERY ODD, but after thinking through what he was saying it kind of made sense if you want to do something along those lines.
But I do like the idea more to have lofts on there somewhere that would make it easier to tell.
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6 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:
Option 2, the T350 in the longer irons and the T200 in the scoring irons.
Unless you are a unicorn and want less forgiveness in your longer irons and a bigger chunkier feel in your short irons
Option two. The 350's wont give you the short iron feel that you need and would get out of the 200s. Conversely, the 350 longer irons will maybe miss out on some of the feels but they'll launch a ton in the air and be extremely playable.
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15 hours ago, TylorJudd said:
My local coach here is a Titleist staffer and he has Titleist coming to his course in April. I’m going to do a fitting just to see how it goes. It’s funny how much a visual can play into it!
He is going to have me play around with a T200 4iron and possibly a T350 driving iron and see how that goes
In my testing, the 350 I'd probably tell you go with the newer 505 model. That thing is a cheat stick and to my eye it set better on the ground. However, that's a completely subjective thing so you may enjoy that. Depending on size, however, you may enjoy the looks of the 200 4-iron in there.
My set up currently, I do the 150 from 5-pw. Vokey's down below. BUT, my 4 iron is the 505. And I purposely did that because it launches FAR higher than most other models. And I really wanted to have a long iron for those 200-215 yard shots that I can carry there but have it high enough that it's going to stop unless the green is a parking lot. Even then, I haven't ran it through many.
The good thing though by and large this year is I think of MOST manufacturers Titleist has done the best job of making each of their clubs blendable to the point that they don't look too out of wack. So definitely, enjoy that fitting. I'm sure you'll come away blown away with what you felt and had results wise.
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1 hour ago, TylorJudd said:
I’m making the switch too, went from Cleveland RTX wedges to Vokey SM8 to start. They aren’t only beautiful to look at, but their feel is so consistent. Popped a TSr3 5 wood in my bag also. It performs so well, coupled with an AD DI, that I sold my 3 wood… I was shocked at how nice it was! I don’t think I’ll grab a TSr driver as my Paradym TD is just too good. Very intrigued by the T100/100s/T150 but will probably go with SM10 first. Titleist is on to something
As someone who's played all three models, I have to say the T150's are just simply amazing! I would highly recommend them. The 100s are the same model just a little thinner looking, but play about the same. The 100's are great if you enjoy traditional lofts and have no concerns about distances. But why not get all the playability and a little extra distance, imo.
As you can see by my bag below I'm pretty all Titleist except that Triple Diamond. That thing was just too good and continues to perform better than most.
- William P, Golfspy_CG2, TJ Hall and 1 other
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On 3/1/2024 at 10:47 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:
I made my Fiance watch it tonight. She hears me talk about Titleist all the time snd shw has been with me to the PGA Show and has met some of the peiple. So she was interested. She said she was amazed at the part where the club “smushed” the ball. LOL. I tried to tell her it was called compression without mansplaining. Ha. I also told her it was a feeling im not familar with
But she agreed it was a very done program.
I mean, at least your significant other supports your habit! That's a HUGE plus. LOL
My favorite part of the whole thing was them talking about acoustics. Totally geeking out on the frequency matching etc to ensure that all clubs essentially tried to feel and sound the same. I'd say from personal experience from the blades through the 150's that's absolutely accurate. The 200 and 350 it's close but... Regardless, it's Titleist and I'm here for all things with the T on them! LOL
I say that when I have a driver that isn't a Titleist and a putter flip in and out with one not being a Cameron. But hey, no OEM can be perfect all the time! At least I try to tell myself that.
- TylorJudd, Golfspy_CG2, TJ Hall and 2 others
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3 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:
This is a really well produced short story by Titleist and really shows how much work and research goes into just one aspect of a product design.
As a self professed Titleist "HOOOOOO" I'm here for it! Loved every second of it .
- GolfSpy_KFT, Golfspy_CG2, ZJeb67 and 2 others
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On 2/7/2024 at 9:05 AM, EnderinAZ said:
Taylormade Hi-Toe 50, 54, 58 degree. The 58 degree is my favorite for around the green, but it sits in the garage because it is terrible out of deep rough -the only kind of rough around the greens at Coyote Run-. I need to sharpen the grooves on the sand and A wedge as I have pounded them about flat in the year I have had the clubs. Responsive and workable they are some of the best wedges I have ever had. Note the grooves go all the way to through the end of the toe. Kind of gimmicky but does not add or take away anything from the club.
Vastly underrated lob wedge. Played the 60 for a season or two and that thing was impossible to hit wrong outta the sand! For my money, the only wedges that TM has made that I've actually liked.
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I have yet to purchase the new ones for this season... But, I'm assuming at some point I'll be upgrading to the SM10's. This year, however, I think I may need to adjust my loft settings from my typical 54-58 in addition to the gap wedge. Since I have the T-150's and I purchased the 48 degree Vokey my assumption this year is I may go with 52 and then taking a 54 and bending it to 55 degrees. Have to do a true gapping session or 10 and figure out what's going to fit best. Though, have to admit, the winter golf with this set up and last years rounds have proven that I may not need to adjust the clubs but rather adjust the swing action for distances.
I'm definitely one of those guys that believes the most important clubs in your bag is the Putter and the Wedges. They tend to get more play than ANYTHING else during the course of a round. SO... I do do far more testing and focus on them than most of the rest. There's a reason they call them scoring clubs I suppose.
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Quite the interesting question to ask...
For me, at least, I break it down into a couple categories and the answers are slightly different.
Places I always play:
In this category I look at "good" courses from the lense of why do I play them all the time. When thinking through that, frankly, I come to the conclusion that the company and or memories are what brings me back to that course frequently. For example my home course. Small short 6100 yard course from the tips I believe, but I'm there ALL THE TIME because A. it's home and B. the memories I have there can simply not be replaced.
Tournament Courses:
Not that I'm a Pro or anything, but I did sleep at a holiday in express recently. And they did leave the light on. Wait... That's Motel 6. But I digress. Favorite Tournament course are ones that I view as places where I've had success, the course set up is ALWAYS challenging, and they draw the best fields. There are probably about 4 courses locally that when they have a tournament upcoming I am always going to sign up and play there. Harrisburg CC, Hershey CC, West Shore CC, American Legion CC to name a few. These places, the last being the least attractive of the bunch, always set their courses up challenging and I've enjoyed modest success at them. But the fields are ALWAYS strong and that satisfies the competitive nature of things.
Destination or Vacation Courses:
These courses frequently are played due to reputation, views, location and value prop. Frankly, those are ones that I look more at the views and course design than anything. Tidewater and Grand Dune in Myrtle for example. What an amazing and beautiful course these two are!! The courses mix in challenge with scenery. They stick out to me for both. The first time I played them, it wasn't pretty. Frankly, those scores will never be mentioned. But... I can tell you I walked away from them knowing for the value on a vacation and the opportunity to check that box on each it was more than worth it. Coincidently, the more I've played them the better the scores.
Overall, fabulous question. And frankly tough to have a one answer fits all. At least for me. I would probably say that any time we spend on the course is always good. Even those times we play on a dog-track so long as the company is good, the laughs are plentiful and we can walk away ready to fight another day!
Great question!
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32 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:
Unfortunately drivers aren’t included in our fitting cart. And the Testing Budget was cut back this year
totally understandable... But I will say from what I've read and seen, Mizuno is undoubtedly making a MAJOR push in the driver department. They've been trying the past couple years, but man they are really making strides and QUICK
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Good luck with those! This year proves to be an interesting one with the amount of "new" drivers on the market. Certainly going to be interesting, for sure! Believe I'll hold out till Titleist puts out the next TR version of Drivers because my Paradym right now gets the job quite nicely!
Curious to see your findings as you go!
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35 minutes ago, chisag said:
... I figured I would need to play these T200's awhile to adjust and decide if they will stay in my bag. After 3 rounds they are here to stay. I have gained about 1/2 club and at age 70 the slight distance increase with the same spin and a hair higher trajectory is very welcome. The feel is extraordinary and the thin top line gives me confidence at address.
That's where I think Titleist made their biggest improvements with them. (Same actually happening I feel with stock shots off the 150's if I'm being honest) The T-200 is pretty close to a cheat stick imo. And that's a GOOD thing! But I think the biggest surprise with them was the spin numbers. I tried them a couple times, my buddy just got them too. And on a stock PW, 9 or 8 I as actually taken aback when I saw them hit greens and stick and or spin back in some cases. So definitely a smart choice to keep them in play. I have a feeling you're gonna love them. But then again... Who wouldn't love a Titleist product! (My bias shinging through there!
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- Rob Person, ole gray and TJ Hall
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On 1/21/2024 at 3:51 PM, ole gray said:
Oh WOW what a steal!
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'm a huge fan of both Titleist and SteelFiber. I had the 110's CW in my T100S irons and now looking to put the same in my 150's. (Which btw are I think a HUGE advancement year on year in their quality and performance over what I was playing!) Just can't put a better shaft in an iron imho. Though I haven't done so yet and have been swinging the stock project x shafts that came in these and seem to get them going pretty well.
But great deal! You couldn't pass that up, you're right!! Hit them straight and enjoy!!
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I'd be mighty curious if these are REALLY a stepped improvement over the 9's that I have. Doutbful I'll upgrade, as a wedge is a wedge imo. But, I would stand behind Titleist in all they produce and these no doubt are gonna be amazing upgrades for the right consumer in the market for new wedges. Unfortunately, it's a bit too early in the golf cycle for me to upgrade. But I will test them!
- William P, GolfSpy_KFT, Cfhandyman and 1 other
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On 12/14/2023 at 8:30 PM, Tiptx1122 said:
I’m very curious if anyone has had the back plate come off there T-200 or T-350. I just recently heard from 2 people that it’s a National issue coming from fitters from Club Champion.
Now I called several different Club Champion locations to include 2nd Swing who sponsored a certain Golf forum that I won’t mention and not one single person/fitter said they had been any issues with the back plate.
Im very happy with my T-350 as I hope that this doesn’t happen to me or anyone else and if it has happened to anyone I know Titleist will fix the issue. I think Titleist knocked it out of the park with the T-Series this year
I've not heard of these issues in all of the travels I have in the golf world. In fact, quite the opposite. BUT, I will say... There's usually 2 things that would case people to do or comment as such. A. They are a fan of another OEM and feel the need to talk down about anything they deem not cool or part of their brand of preference. Or, B. those people with backs coming off probably have a very good launch angle on their club tosses!
Either way, I agree with you. I do believe Titleist has knocked it out of the park with these clubs this year. They were monumental steps forward. But, I am a fan boy of Titleist too, so there is that. Though I appreciate all things that are good, not just Titleist.
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18 hours ago, Javs said:
I’m running which clubs are going in the bag like a sports team. No one is safe. Doesn’t matter how high you were drafted (what I paid for you). Every club is competing for a job. The lineup could change based on the opponent (course setup). Everyone needs to do their job!!
That's right Jav! Sometimes, you gotta let them top picks know who the boss is! If nothing else, you can trade that first rounder for a 2nd and 3rd sometimes!
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Who's YouTube Channel Would You Want To Be A Guest On?
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This, I would agree with. Think the question REALLY should be... A. Do you want to play with a group to have a great time and play bad golf, this would be the group. Or B. Do you wanna play with some sticks, still have a good time but not as crazy good as the former... Then I'd definitely consider a group like the Bryan Bros.