oldguy819

Yes but! How cheap? How EASY? Try it without upsetting the industry. Let's face it. The powers that be aren't looking at this from an entertainment / marketing viewpoint. They see numbers. Not human beings. How hard would it be to just let the grass grow a bit. 2, Maybe 3 tourneys. Then check the numbers. Watching the Valspar at this moment. How hard would it be to show the Carry Vs Total drive distances. Just use those numbers for comparison. I just can't see or understand the reason to throw a wrench into an industry for a small group of peoples egos

2nd reply to this topic. All I've read and only one reference to the fairways being like the billiard table top.. When I see stats like "Carry" and Roll out", and see carry 290 or 310 or there about. Then you see the roll outs going another 30, 60, and in some cases 100 yards. Then you want to retard the balls so they travel less. Why not TRY and leave the fairways say, like the current "First cut" of rough? Balls won't roll out as far. A little trickier into the greens. It could EASILY be done for a couple of tourneys and check the numbers. BEFORE you hack the industry to pieces and bankrupt manufacturers.

""the bifurcation of the profession into social do-gooders and self-serving iconoclasts"" I know they've been talking about this for years. I can GUESS what they're complaining about but How can you put restrictions on balls or equipment without destroying that industry. I'm old enough to remember the BAN of the "Brittish" balls. There's been no discussion about the "lofts" of the clubs. Why do they hit lob wedges 100+ yards? 9 irons 180 yards? Because they manipulate the lofts. You're going to penalize the golfer who strives to have a faster swing or make "pure" hits of the ball. Isn't this a little (a LOT) like socialism/communism? Someone is too good so "we MUST penalize the achiever to make the underachiever look better?" I've been golfing 60 years. There was a day when I could OCCASIONALLY hit a balata 300 yards with a persimmon. Made me feel great and impress those I played with. All that I've read only speaks of "They hit it too far". What is their ultimate goal? Are we going to limit their engines like nascar? LeMans? To what end? I'd look at redesigning the courses. Tighter and shorter dog legs Thicker rough. Longer fairway grass/turf. The rollouts are INCREDIBLE. One or two more trees they have to navigate? Make the players MANIPULATE or WORK the ball around the course again. Not that many can fade or draw the ball on command or certain degrees of bend. This would force the ball makers to redesign the balls again because today's balls, you can't make em bend like you used too. My two cents

I joined for the unbiased equipment testing.Equipment is such a personal thing. It must fit the eye. Feel good. And of course the price. But after factoring in these things, it's nice to read some unbiased testing to re-enforce ones decision making. I'm from the world of "You get what you pay for". And REALLY impressed with the ball testing, Spring and fall I and I'm not hitting the ball solidly, I can play water balls. It doesn't matter. But when the grove comes back I like to think I'm playing the best ball for me.

YES!

I have "Applied" to test many of the offerings but as yet not been lucky enough to do so. My thoughts. As important as it is I think some of the market is missing some dollars by not addressing the "Seniors" market. We too have some disposable income and although I still have a decent swing speed, some of my friends do not. I see many tests that display irons as "Tour" (blades) "Players" (combination) and "Game improvement" (cavity back or hollow) but little to no discussion of shafts I have been fitted with MT300Black steel and they've improved my accuracy but now am questioning how much distance I've sacrificed for that accuracy. Guessing about 10 yards. Lets face it. It's become way more than STIFF, REG. and GRANNY. Anything you guys have to say?

Just bought 4 dozen. I've been left dash guy for a couple years but bought a dozen TOUR and TOURX to try. TOUR feels better and I get the same playability for $2.20 per ball as the $5.00 ball and don't have a heart attack when I hit it in the lake. HEY! I'm not a pro.

Nothing coming from the pros on the new TSR driver. I'm sensing issues. Anyone know anything?

I would love to hear this question if a pro on tour. How do you feel about a guy who takes FOREVER lining up a putt. Looking from all directions. Standing over their putts for a long time. Then missing by 2 or 3 feet left, right or long or short. Not inches. FEET. I'm just a schmo playing 3 - 4 times a week with buddies but I can't stand this. How does a pro feel?

I own a Titliest cart bag with 15 holes with one being oversize for the putter.. I have 14 clubs and a ball retriever. There's a umbrella holder on the outside. Laugh all you want about the ball retriever but I play premium balls and if I can recover it from within reach of shore.... I will. Until I'm under contract with Titliest for a lifetime supply of Left Dash's, I'm fishing for them.

Oddly enough, I've always been conscious of the ball I play both playability and feel. Back in the 60's I played Top Flights. Through today as I play the Left Dash. I decided on the Left Dash beginning of summer and the 2021 ball data only confirms what I've always felt or believed. Not only is the premium ball better in most ways but as MGS has determined by looking at the actual price of each ball. The consistency of the ball throughout the box of 12. I'm not supposed to hit the Left Dash that long because of my swing speed (95 to 98mph) BUT! I hit it as far as any ball right now and I LOVE the feel and action I get on the greens. But again, let me thank all of MGS for performing this test. A 30 minute read and MONTHS of brain fodder.

John Traverse City, Michigan Mavrik Sub Zero 12 97 TSi3

John Traverse City, Michigan 12 T-300 +1 length, AMT Black, Reg flex shaft, Standard loft, Standard lie Golf Pride MCC +4 Blue Midsize grips T-200

Finally played my second round With the T300's. I'm at a pretty low point right now with my swing BUT. When I do hit them right they go great and on line. I'm back to hitting my old yardages ON LINE. And spin the ball nicely. I'm able to draw and fade at will again. I've got a case of the "thins" right now and it's driving me crazy. All in all. Look great. Hit great. FEEL great. Thanks for listening J

John 98 Bridgestone Tour B X Tour

Will do! Can't hardly wait. BTW, my swing speed was 77 - 78mph.

I was fitted by a TrackMan Certified Master Fitter today at Carls Golfland in Bloomfield Hills Michigan by Ryan Johnson. Considering I've been playing the game nearly 55 years I think I learned as much today and I ever have. First my 15 year old Bridgestone J-36 irons (which I LOVED) with Project X 6.0 Rifle shafts Just aren't for a mature swinger. I can't flex them anymore. Tested with 7 iron. I hit Ping G-410, (Very nice hit, good consistency, accurate. My first choice until... Taylor Made M-6 Lots of vibration felt through my hands. Honma P747. Excellent fit and feel Everything felt and looked great except spin rate too low. Cobra King F9. Didn't please my eye and didn't feel right. Finally what I though I would NOT like, the Titleist T300. WOW! Couldn't even feel the ball off the face. A nice "click" and the ball was gone. Very tight group. With the AMT Black R300 shafts I increased my ball speed 10mph and gained from123.1yds to141.3yds yards carry. Smash factor from 1.21 to 1.33 Spins and angles all good. For an older gent like me I enjoyed the increased speed and distance but MORE IMPORTANTLY the tight grouping and consistent distances. Now I can adjust my club selection with confidence instead of guessing as with my old set. Just my 13 cents worth of contribution to the forums. I'll be happy to answer Q's if anybody has any. May I add. Mr. Ryan Johnson did not assume anything when we met as some in the industry do. See my age assume my swing. He took his time. Evaluated every aspect and not only made recommendations but allowed me the time to hit and self evaluate along with the numbers. Very pleased with Carl's over my years of buying equipment, shoes and apparel.

John, Michigan 16 Bridgestone J36 150 This happens to be one of the brands I'm looking at to upgrade my clubs

Very much interested