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  1. Oncore’s HQ and TopGolf-esque entertainment facility are located in Buffalo, but no balls are produced there. Oncore doesn’t actually produce any balls themselves, production is outsourced to Foremost (Taiwan).
  2. Acushnet was the last company to produce 100% of their balls in the US, but that changed several years ago when they opened their factory in Thailand. With that said, the following companies still partially or fully produce certain models in the US. Acushnet (Titleist, Pinnacle, Union Green): all injection molded cover balls in Massachusetts. Thermoset cast urethane models (ProV1 line and AVX) are produced in both Massachusetts and Thailand (facility owned by Acushnet). Callaway: urethane models and ERC Soft produced in Massachusetts (facility owned by Callaway) Ionomer model production outsourced to various Asian white labels factories (I believe primarily Launch Technologies in Taiwan at the moment). Bridgestone: all models produced in Bridgestone owned facilities in Georgia and Japan. Taylormade: core/mantle assemblies for urethane models outsourced to Foremost (Taiwan) and Nassau (South Korea, TM just acquired this factory in late 2021), urethane cover assembly, finishing/stamping, packaging/distribution happens in South Carolina. Ionomer covered models outsourced to a few Asian white label factories.
  3. Srixon’s urethane covers are thermoplastic urethane (TPU) which tends to be harder than cast thermoset urethane which is what Titleist and Taylormade use. This is probably what you are feeling.
  4. @ONLYHITBOMBS are you referring to the 690CB or the 690.CB?
  5. The 350 dimple pattern is from Launch Technologies in Taiwan (factory that produces most of Callaway’s ionomer balls I believe). The shift from Foremost is likely due to capacity and material shortages (DSG, Wilson, Vice, and TM are likely at the head of the line at Foremost although it will be interesting to see if TM continues following the Nassau acquisition).
  6. Actually, Taylormade’s entered that partnership with Foremost in 2019 (Nassau was exclusively producing the core/mantle assemblies for their urethane models until that point). A bit ambiguous as to what the partnership entailed, but it didn’t appear to be an outright acquisition. The more likely scenario was an equity investment to essentially reserve permanent capacity, however it did not appear to impact Foremost’s larger customer’s much (DSG, Wilson, Volvik, Vice). It will be interesting to see what happens to this partnership following Taylormade’s acquisition of the Nassau factory in late 2021 since it seems a bit redundant given that they now have full control of their factory of choice.
  7. Yes, the TM R9 Supertri 100% titanium. Basically all TM driver heads prior to the 2016 M1/M2 were all metal.
  8. Callaway all titanium options with the optifit hosel: X2 Hot/Pro XR/Pro XR16/Pro/Sub Zero
  9. They could start by modeling sustainable mow heights at their own events…
  10. It really depended on what the club OEM requested. For example, Nike used to request s400 for the majority of their existence while Vokey always used s200. As previously mentioned, most of the OEMs that still use standard DGs today have settled on s200.
  11. Don’t expect zero changes at the amateur level. Here is the quote that concerns me: “Address the distance issue among the longest hitters while not substantially impacting hitting distances for shorter hitters at the recreational level” The problem is with the subjective qualitative terms. If you look at the areas of interest proposals below, you will see that there is no mention of MLR for the ball test change so it appears that any change to the ODS will be global. While the potential removal of the velocity limit helps, it will be difficult for OEMs to design something that results in a substantial performance increase at low speeds while still falling below the ODS limit (seems like a bit of a red herring IMHO). 1 - Potential changes to the testing methods for golf balls Evaluate the effect of increasing the clubhead speed used to determine conformance to the Overall Distance Standard (ODS) to at least 125 mph and to use optimized launch angle and spin parameters (that are specific to each ball tested). In conjunction with the potential new test conditions for the ODS, the Initial Velocity Test may be modified or eliminated to provide the opportunity for innovation for shorter hitters. These potential changes would apply to balls used at all levels of the game. 2 - Model Local Rules – Club performance Investigate the impact of a reduction of the allowable spring-like effect and moment of inertia in drivers. The governing bodies are considering these topics within the context of Model Local Rules that could be utilized for competitions involving the highest level of elite golfers. There is also interest in considering whether the adoption of these potential Model Local Rules could also allow the elimination of the MOI limit for recreational golfers, which could facilitate greater innovation and provide modest distance increases at this level of the game.
  12. I agree with much of the feedback. The comeback this week was a little rough. This definitely needs a dedicated host and a little more segment structure. Why not give it a try with Bennett as host?
  13. Agreed. The PGA Show threads this year were brutal. Having to scroll through a mountain of apparel vendors that I have never heard of just to see an errant equipment pic here or there was not fun (granted I knew none of the big equipment OEMs were at the show ahead of time).
  14. Callaway purchased all of Spalding’s golf property out of bankruptcy in 2003 in a bidding war with TMaG (who then acquired Maxfli from Dunlop later that year). Spalding Golf included the Top Flite, Strata, Hogan brands and all golf IP, the Spalding name was not included. Callaway sold the Top Flite name to DSG and the Hogan name to Perry Ellis in 2012. This new revival of Spalding balls is under licenses by Reliable of Milwaukee who is behind the Nitro brand and a few refurbished/refinished brands. The balls are produced white label by Feng Tay in Vietnam (also produces the Vice Pro Zero).
  15. This Callaway version appears to be different vs the prior TM version. We'll see how it is, but that sizable jump in torque is not inspiring (granted it may feel better to the masses). I don't believe that the TEE 4T version has ever been listed on the Fuji site. Archive August 2021 Current Site Additionally, there was a made for Blue 5 version that was available in the SIM2 that was not listed on the Fuji OEM page but according to the TM specs it looked to be identical to the previous made for Red 5 with Blue graphics.
  16. Only the original KSig 4-piece was produced by Nassau (also sold as the Nassau Quattro and the discontinued Pearl Pure Pro/X). Nassau discontinued production following threats of some kind from TM. All other KSig models have been produced in the SM Parker factory in China who produced balls for Nike at one time, the discontinued Snell MTB Red, and currently for Cut. As for other DTCs that are getting cutoff, I found a shipping record from Nassau to a Golf Ball Developments LLC who appears to be behind the resurgence of the Penfold brand and given the articles that MGS has covered on the brand in the past couple of years, this may be their source.
  17. The criticism was not about the totality of the data presented (that is an entirely separate topic), but simply that it is a set practice to share the sample size when averages are presented. In this case, MGS lists the shot sample size on all of their most wanted club articles even though they do not share discrete averages of each player/club.
  18. Even if they do, it doesn’t seem like any of them state their shot sample size when they share numbers so IMHO it is reasonable for people to assume that the sample size is closer to the handful of shots shown in the video than hundreds. My recommendation to all of them would be to add a graphic with a note of the sample size anytime they share numbers.
  19. Should have clarified that my comment was limited to balls, buifurcation absolutely exists in other areas (granted the groove rule is temporary). I wouldn’t consider the one ball condition as true equipment buifurcation since it does not limit any physical or performance properties of the actual ball.
  20. I think you are misinterpreting bifurcation in this context. Currently there are a single set of regulations within the rules of golf for all levels of play. An example of bifurcation would be if a different set of regulations was introduced for certain conditions which is not the case today.
  21. FYI, the stock XCons in the RBZ were made for (.350 tip, lighter, and higher torque) and not the same as the Ozik aftermarket. No idea what would be similar (probably a good opportunity for a proper fitting).
  22. This is why I go straight to the USGA website for any rule reference.
  23. @Syks7 in case you were not already aware, the 46” limit is an optional local rule that intended for the highest levels of competition. It is unlikely that most amateurs will be playing in an event where this rule will be in place.
  24. Also the swing/club variables changed for the 2021 test (not to mention incidental environmental and measurement variance) so a true apples to apples comparison across years is not really possible. Results from each test really need to be evaluated in a silo.
  25. DTC technically refers to the product originator (not necessarily the producer) selling to the consumer directly while bypassing 3rd party retail, wholesale, and/or distribution. The point is to eliminate unnecessary intermediary margins that result in additional retail markup. In the case of Maxfli, it is a house brand of DSG and only sold in their retail locations so classifying that as DTC is acceptable because DSG has full control over the marketing/distribution/retail portion of the supply chain. Costco’s Kirkland balls qualify as well. Additional to this particular industry, most consider the fact that balls considered to be DTC are produced in independent, white label factories not owned by the originator. The most direct form of distribution in this industry would be purchasing a urethane offering from Acushnet, Bridgestone, or Callaway (all fully manufactured in wholly owned facilities) via their website.
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