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  1. 9 hours ago, dlow206 said:

    Another mini-contest.

    Whoever makes the closest guess for what my longest drive will be with the TSi 2 will win one of the Titleist ball markers. Go.

    Keep in mind, weather will be wet and rainy, so won't get much roll-out. My longest drive last round was only 235, which is on the short end of the spectrum for me for longest drive. It could be one of those days again, but i am hoping not. 

    Guesses:

    240

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  2. 3 hours ago, dlow206 said:

    I think the TSi premium option (the GD shafts) was a smart move by Titleist. It makes it a “stock” premium option that people will readily be available to buy and i think there will be people that buy it because of the “premium” label. Its like the Taylormade TP from back in the day.

    i agree.  Wonder 2 things:

    1.  will quality be impacted if mass produced

    2. is DG getting its butt kicked with the wave of Ventus shafts?

    all in all, pretty cool to get a premium shaft...yes $200 uncharge but still not bad.

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  3. 1 minute ago, cnosil said:


    Sounds like you are pin hunting on approach shots. If so, My suggestion would be that you look at proximity and dispersion data for pros and newer approach strategies for when to aim your shots based on dispersion.

    Driver dispersions are in the 60 yard range, 7 irons in the 30 yard range. When you stand over a shot you have absolutely no idea where you ball will end up in that pattern. Not understanding that pattern will bring bogey and worse into play more often.

    This is a good point.  Not to get too far off track ,but i want to put myself in the best position to make the best score i can.  My old mindset was "hit fairway, hit green" and i was still not really making much progress.  I am trying to think about where to hit shots instead of just hit the ball.  Lastly, I have been thinking of the green in quarters.  I am not going after every pin, but i am going for the best chance to make birdie or par.  If the pin is in a good spot, i go for it.  If it is in a "sucker" position, i will try to hit shot in that quarter of the green.  For whatever reason, when i am thinking about and understanding my proximity to the hole, my scores have gone down.

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  4. 44 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

    It absolutely makes sense, closer is better.  But there can be different reasons for "poor" proximity.  Maybe a player isn't long enough off the tee, so he's always hitting long approach shots.  Maybe he's in the rough too much, which leads to wider dispersion on approach shots.  Maybe he drives the ball great, but is a horrible iron player.  Any of those lead to longer first putts, fewer 1-putts and more 3-putts, more putts in general.  Using Strokes Gained evaluation of a player's entire game can help him understand where his weaknesses are.  He could have 38 putts in a round, and have it be a function of poor driving or poor iron play, not poor putting. 

    Strokes Gained is a more detailed way of looking at "proximity to the hole".

    100% agree with you.  I am rethinking my approach to the game and have been thinking backwards (where is the pin from the tee).  I am really trying to understand where i SHOULD NOT hit it off the tee instead of where i should.  EXAMPLE:  pin is back left on a hole that doglegs left.  I really don't want to be in the middle left of the fairway or i am blocked out.  I want to be middle right of the fairway.  By understanding where i can miss it, i have been hitting more greens and am closer to the hole.  My handicap has dropped this year with just a mental adjustment.  I agree with you that Strokes Gained is more detailed but in my mind during the round, I am trying to hit it closer to the hole on ALL shots.  I might hit a bad drive and a crap approach but my next shot, i am trying to hit it as close as possible.  I have been tracking my rounds that way.  

  5. 19 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

     

    I'm wondering too, what do you mean?  Strokes Gained driving is calculated by comparing the original distance  (expected strokes to hole out from 420, say) to the distance and location after the shot (expected strokes to hole out from 150 in the rough).  Strokes Gained approach compares the distance and location (rough, fairway, bunker) to the proximity and location (green, fairway, rough, bunker) after the approach shot.  Strokes gained putting is based on original distance to the hole, and number of putts to hole out.  Every time, proximity is the primary variable being evaluated.  

    Here is what i mean.  Yes, I want to hit the fairway, yes i want to hit the green, and yes I don't want to 3 putt.  To me, it has to do with how close I am hitting it to the hole.  Like someone else said, you hit every green, be 40 feet away and 3 putt half of them.  I try to hit every shot within 20 feet. (even chip shots, bunker shots, etc.).  If i do that, i probably will never 3 putt from that distance, make more birdies and less bogeys (or more pars and less doubles).  If i can hit a lot of shots closer, i probably hit a good drive, a good approach or chip.  This all came about when i was playing with someone who said "you hit a lot of greens, you should score better".  I thought about that and realized that yes, I hit a lot of greens, but sometimes i am in the 3 putt zone.  My mindset has been, hit it closer to the hole, and my scores have come down.  Helpful?

  6. On 6/13/2017 at 11:29 AM, DaveP043 said:

    The interesting thing about strokes gained data is that it attempts to remove other variables from the evaluation.  For instance, if you hit every green, but you're 30 to 40 feet away every time, 36 putts is a pretty good number  The "standard" for a 30-foot putt is going to be 2.2 or so (my estimate, not an actual statistically derived number), so 18 2-putts would GAIN you 3.6 strokes.  If you hit it inside 10 feet on every hole, and have 36 putts, your putting was pretty poor.  The "standard" for a 10-footer will be something like 1.7, so in this case 18 2-putts would LOSE you 5.4 strokes.  36 putts in either case, one a good performance, one a poor performance.

     

    This type of statistic has value for lesser players like us in that it can inform our practice choices.  If I'm taking a lot of putts because I'm always a long ways away, my best choice is to work on ball-striking, learn to hit it closer.  If I'm the second guy, getting a lot of looks but never making 10-footers, my ball striking is good, I should practice putting.

    I am more focused on proximity to the hole

  7. OK, so went to my home course with the intention of walking 9.  Got paired up with another person and wound up walking 18 on the tougher, narrower, course (my home club has 36 holes).

    Really starting to love this HOGAN driver.  The club now sits square (at least to my eyes) and i am having a much easier time getting lined up.  I am growing more and more confident in this club.  I will point to a few things.

    1.  feedback--the immediate feedback coming off the face is great.  Also, i love the sound this driver makes and the feel of it.

    2.  ball flight--the ball is coming off the face at a higher launch (my TITLEIST driver was about 10 degree launch angle...HOGAN Is around 13.).

             This could be for a few reasons.  Lighter shaft, higher degree of loft, etc.  Whatever the reason, perfect trajector

    3.  Spin--while i have not tried to get actual spin rates yet, this driver seems to spin less....i put some swings where I KNOW my Titleist driver would have gone left, but the HOGAN stayed pretty true to the line.

    Right now, I am really liking this driver and am appreciative of the chance to test it.

    ON COURSE:  Hit driver on 3, 4, 5, 7, 11, 12, 14, 15, 17.  Hit fairway on 3, hit it through the fairway by 1 foot on 4, hit fairway on 5, hit fairway on 11, hit fairway on 12 (par 5 with trouble at end of fairway (creek) and the about 200 to the pin.  Hit it about 295 (very long for me) to 5 feet in front of creek.  I even told the person I was playing with, I will hit driver as i don't hit it 300.  Hit fairway on 14 and 15 (15 was also long).  17 I pull it into the rough so that was me, not the driver.

    The fairways I missed were literally 3 feet from the fairway and most rolled through.  

    BOTTOM LINE:  This driver hangs with any driver i have every played (Titleist/Taylor Made being my last two) for a better price.  

    Quick side note:  the feedback I have received from others I have played with has been.. "what is that driver, it sounds great".  "I didn't know HOGAN made clubs still".  Where did you get that driver, i have not seen them anywhere.  even a "why are you playing a Hogan driver".  The perception that HOGAN is not a Callaway, Taylormade, Titleist, etc. and thus is no good is very real with some people.  I have not let anyone else hit it....yet.

     

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  8. 15 hours ago, 03trdblack said:

    Got another round in with the Hogan driver today and was able to compare it using Shot Scope to a borrowed Callaway Mavrik Sub Zero.  A buddy of mine let me use his Mavrik Sub Zero head and I put it onto a shaft I was fit into with an Epic Flash Sub Zero.

    I hit the Hogan on the front 9 and hit the Mavrik on the back.  The Hogan is shafted with the Hzrdus Smoke 65 6.0 and the Mavrik was shafted with a Fujikura Speeder 661 TR Stiff.

    Hogan GS53 Front Nine:

    270
    248
    261
    269
    261
    267

    AVG:  262.66

    Callaway Mavrik Back Nine:

    258
    250
    261
    287
    257
    312 (downhill)

    AVG: 270.83

    It's obvious that playing different holes with different drivers won't give perfect side by side results but the course was very busy and I couldn't hit two tee shots off of every hole.  The Hogan and I are really starting to bond and it's really starting to show how consistent it is.  I didn't get out of play one time on the front nine and the driving distances were very consistent.  I hit a few wild shots with the Mavrik and a few bombs but lost 2 balls (right) which I didn't like.  The average with the Callaway was slightly longer but the shot I hit 312 was downhill and skewed the average.

    People often and easily fall in love with the one or two bombs they may hit during a round with a driver but I'm more concerned with a driver that is super reliable and predictable which the Hogan is proving itself to be.  I get very consistent distance, ball flight and shot shape with it over and over.

    I agree with this. Played 18 yesterday and did have a chance to hit two drives on a few holes.  While I hit my Titleist driver further on average, I am finding myself more consistent with the HOGAN driver.  Also played around with the setting Friday night until the driver looked square at setup.  I set up much easier yesterday and I still love the feedback the Hogan gives.  The sound is a perfect blend between too muted and too loud.  The feel is amazing.  I also am finding a more consistent flight and i am hitting it higher, which i like for total carry distance.  I am still finding (for some reason i cannot explain) the ball marks on the face are slighter higher than center.  I would rather hit a driver higher in the face than lower, so i am OK with this.

    Bottom line:  Loving the HOGAN, really thinking about putting a lighter shaft in my TITLEIST driver as well (to see what happens) and hands down worth the $$$.  I am seeing slightly less distance but more consistency from the HOGAN.  

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  9. On 5/14/2020 at 9:22 AM, bens197 said:

    It’s an interesting take on the face and center.  I’ve thought the same when first admiring the club through their product release.  What you’re seeing has to do with the face having a contrasting color than the crown.  Here’s a quick stock photo of a G410 where you can see the difference between toe and heel vs face bulge. You'd see the same with the PING if it had the same color styling. While I prefer the monochromatic style, if it works like you describe, it doesn’t matter much. 
     

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    Yep, that's it.  It is probably me but it find it very distracting.  When i feel i am square (club face to ball) and look up, I'm way off.  When i get lined up square with feet and shoulders and put the club down, it looks really shut.

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  10. Played 9 last evening. No Rattle.  This driver sounds, looks, and feels awesome!  I am having a hard time getting set over the ball and I think i know why.  The face bulges out (at least to my eyes) and it seems that the toe and heel sit further back.  In other words, it seems the actual hitting area for the face is small.

    Anyone else noticing the face seems overly rounded?

    Results from practice session with my personal launch monitor (VoiceCaddie SC300)--Ball speed 156ish on average, swing speed 105ish on average, carry was 260ish on average.

    The ball did not curve at all. If i missed it left or right it was due to pull or push (again, not comfortable getting lined up over the driver).

    Results from actual play:  played 9 holes on my home course.  usually hit my driver on 1,2,4,5,6,.  3 is a par 3, 8 is a par 3 and 7 has trouble at the end of the fairway so usually hit 3 wood.  9 is a par 5 with water at end of fairway.

    For the Hogan test, I hit driver on 7.  Launch was higher than usual (which is fine).  I hit the fairway on 1,4,5,7 so 4 out of 6 fairways.  I carried the ball further than normal but total distance was about the same.  On the 4th hole I hit a great drive and was probably a good 7 yards closer to the green than normal.  The fairways i missed were a yard or so off the fairway, nothing out of play.

    So far, I love the look of the driver itself but i can not how to get it to sit square (still messing around with the settings).  I also love the feel of the ball off the face (i am noticing my ball marks on the face seems slightly higher than center--probably explains the higher flight).  Lastly the sound...it sounds slightly louder than say a Taylor Made M5 but not as "metallic" sounding as say a Titleist TS 3.

    So far, so good with results.  If you asked me right now if I would game this...yes.  Best bang for the buck!

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  11. Hi all,

    a way more detailed review soon but I hit some balls w this yesterday.  The set up behind the ball is fantastic..the contrast of the ball and the dark head is stunning. The head is slightly rounded and I like that classic look. The sound of the ball coming off the face is so nice. It is not muted nor does it should like a gun being fired. The only ‘downside’ I see is the club seems to looked closed to me. I found it slightly hard to get set up. I need to play around with the adjustable settings. More soon, but very encouraged so far!

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  12. 4 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

    I keep a putter and my PuttOUT at the church for little putting sessions during the day. Most often, I'm using a mat, but occasionally I try to make some long-distance putts (with camera on, just in case). And today I was awarded the long distance perfect putt record (a bit over 40'):

     

    I can't do that from 4 feet, let alone 40.  Crazy good!

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  13. 1 hour ago, 03trdblack said:

    Upon my initial observations of the videos online, the adapter they are using looks to be the same as the Maltby KE4 TC adjustable driver.  I have this head and it will be interesting to see if they are indeed the same type.  The adapter is nice as it keeps the shaft in the same place and only rotates the ring which means you can use ribbed grips or spine aligned shafts.

    https://www.golfworks.com/maltby-ke4-tc-adjustable-driver/p/ma0309/

    Adapter:  https://www.golfworks.com/maltby-ke4-tc-shaft-adaptor/p/ma0309a/

     

     

    I noticed the same.  Good call out

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