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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to Tom the Golf Nut in Myrtle Beach in August   
    I go every year for a week or sometimes twice. I'll be there in July.  August is hot but at least you will be toward the end of the month. Probably in the upper 80's. So it really won't be much different than NJ. Bugs are not really an issue unless you play a course in a swamp like The Witch. Bug spray is all you would need.
    Depending on how much you want to spend on a course will dictate where to play. 
    Caledonia, True Blue, Heritage are top notch and all in the south strand. For a different type of outing you can play World Tour. All famous holes from different courses around the world. Don't expect to score well they are famous holes for a reason.  Now you have 18 in a row. The resort you are staying at is very good and the courses are all good. World Tour is not far from your resort.
    Caledonia is always ranked in the top 100 and in the lower numbers on ranking (lower meaning good). I payed $200 to play it last year. Yes its pricey but it was on my bucket list. 
    No joke be careful with gators! Give the ponds some space. Ball goes in just forget it. 
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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to Kenny B in Myrtle Beach in August   
    I went in August many years ago for my buddy's 50th birthday.  We played 10 courses in 6 days, and it rained every damn day!!  I live in the desert... I don't like rain.  Hope you have good weather.
    Like @Tom the Golf Nutsays, there are a bunch of great courses there; played Barefoot courses, True Blue, Heritage, Caledonia (my favorite).  Kings North, TPC Myrtle Beach and a couple up on the north end.  I wouldn't go back to TPC.  Kings North was OK, but the weather made it miserable.
    FYI, the World Am is at the end of August;  3000+ golfers competing on 60 Myrtle Beach courses.  It gets a little crowded.  I was playing the Barefoot Love course when they were playing the other Barefoot courses.
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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to TBT in Myrtle Beach in August   
    It will be hot and humid!! If I was in that area the one course I would have to play is Caledonia...closest most guys will ever get to driving into Augusta


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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from Eric Elliott in BirdieBall Putting Mat 4'x8' Review   
    A little backstory
    I'm ~12 handicap with MANY inconsistencies and weaknesses in my game.   Starting last year I decided to really focus in on specific parts of my game for improvement.   Last year was short chips and driver consistency.
    This year's focus is driver consistency (last year's goal was not met - any tips would be helpful) and short putts.   For putting this year, I set a specific goal: to meet or exceed the tour average from 5-6 feet (~75%).  The Grint has me at 34.0 putts per round, and while I do not have the data to say how many of those putts were missed at 6 feet, I'll tell you it sure felt like a hell of a lot.  I would estimate I make about 40-50% from that range, with zero confidence as I stand over them.  This is classic "tester" range, and if you are like me, those failed tests then linger in your brain for the next few holes, which can end up costing you a few more shots.  Conversely, banging one of those home is a great momentum builder for me. 
    So I purchased the BirdieBall mat a month ago, and have rolled at least 15-20 putts daily from about 6 feet.  Now I have played a couple rounds.   Here are some of the observations and results. 
    Physical Quality - 9/10
    This thing legit feels like a green.  One review I read somewhere (probably on MGS) compared it to flat pool noodle with a grained texture on top.  I can't say it better.  You step on it, and it slightly sinks for a minute, then returns to it's original quality.   I feel like I'm actually on a green when I step on it (I will return to this thought in a second).   The only thing I wish is that it was a bit heavier.  But that's nitpicking.   

    This grain is quality...

    Ground level view.  Super flat, no wrinkling or creases...

    Love that it will actually drop in the hole.  Which brings me to a little mini-detour in my review...
    Some additional thoughts (skip down if you want to get back to the actual review) - I read a really interesting book a month ago, which is guiding all of the practice I'm doing.  It's Every Shot Must Have a Purpose by Pia Nillson.  One of the main ideas of the book is to simulate real golf as much as possible when practicing.  For example - don't hit your driver a bunch of times in a row at the range - you would never do that during an actual round of golf.  Back to this putting mat - I bought it looking to simulate "real" putting as much as possible.  When deciding on what to purchase, it was important to me to not want to look at lines down the putting mat when I'm putting.   The Perfect Practice Mat that DJ endorses looks cool, but when I stand over the ball on a course I will not have 10 feet of lines on the green in front of me.  Similarly, being able to stand on top of the mat allows me to zone out everything outside the mat.  I am in it.  Which is why I selected 4 feet wide, even though birdieball does offer more narrow options.   End detour rant.
    Performance Quality - 9/10
    Simply put - the thing rolls straight.    I'm pretty certain that I have some imperfections in my basement floor, and I still can't get it to roll anywhere except straight.  Terrific performance is all I can say.
    Two tiny notes:  The speed is mostly good, but I would say just a touch too quick.  I ordered the middle tier option (10-11 stimpmeter) and it feels quick.  Supposedly one side is with grain and one is against grain.  I don't notice much of a difference.   Two:  The mat is a total of 8'.  So expect to hit 5-6' putts.  The hole is about a foot from the edge.  I somewhat wish I had gone a little longer, but that's obviously no fault of Birdieball. 
    Impact on the Course (so far) - 10/10
    Obviously this is going to depend on the individual, but through two rounds the putting mat has adjusted my mentality and consistency, which has helped my performance.  I can drop myself mentally onto the mat when I'm standing over a putt within 6 feet.  And I know the straight puts at home will translate to the course.   As a practice tool I think that is as good as you can ask for.   
    But I will also add: The opportunity to practice putting daily is a huge change to my golf routine.  Prior to purchasing this, my practice consisted of going out 15-30 minutes before the round and rolling a few.  Then I stand on the green with unfamiliarity and uncertainty from my grip, to my rhythm, to where I'm aiming, etc. etc.   Being able to hit putts frequently has allowed me to test out a variety of grips.  Figure out a rhythm.  Develop consistency.  I am so much more comfortable over putts at the moment.  Over the last two rounds I have made 7 out of 11 from the roughly 5-6' range.  63%.  Baby steps.
    Overall - 28/30
    Thanks for reading.  As you can tell - I highly recommend.  A huge help if this is a weakness in your game, like it is in mine.  I'm going to continue to track putts in the 5-6 foot range.  Will report back. 
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from aerospace_ray in BirdieBall Putting Mat 4'x8' Review   
    A little backstory
    I'm ~12 handicap with MANY inconsistencies and weaknesses in my game.   Starting last year I decided to really focus in on specific parts of my game for improvement.   Last year was short chips and driver consistency.
    This year's focus is driver consistency (last year's goal was not met - any tips would be helpful) and short putts.   For putting this year, I set a specific goal: to meet or exceed the tour average from 5-6 feet (~75%).  The Grint has me at 34.0 putts per round, and while I do not have the data to say how many of those putts were missed at 6 feet, I'll tell you it sure felt like a hell of a lot.  I would estimate I make about 40-50% from that range, with zero confidence as I stand over them.  This is classic "tester" range, and if you are like me, those failed tests then linger in your brain for the next few holes, which can end up costing you a few more shots.  Conversely, banging one of those home is a great momentum builder for me. 
    So I purchased the BirdieBall mat a month ago, and have rolled at least 15-20 putts daily from about 6 feet.  Now I have played a couple rounds.   Here are some of the observations and results. 
    Physical Quality - 9/10
    This thing legit feels like a green.  One review I read somewhere (probably on MGS) compared it to flat pool noodle with a grained texture on top.  I can't say it better.  You step on it, and it slightly sinks for a minute, then returns to it's original quality.   I feel like I'm actually on a green when I step on it (I will return to this thought in a second).   The only thing I wish is that it was a bit heavier.  But that's nitpicking.   

    This grain is quality...

    Ground level view.  Super flat, no wrinkling or creases...

    Love that it will actually drop in the hole.  Which brings me to a little mini-detour in my review...
    Some additional thoughts (skip down if you want to get back to the actual review) - I read a really interesting book a month ago, which is guiding all of the practice I'm doing.  It's Every Shot Must Have a Purpose by Pia Nillson.  One of the main ideas of the book is to simulate real golf as much as possible when practicing.  For example - don't hit your driver a bunch of times in a row at the range - you would never do that during an actual round of golf.  Back to this putting mat - I bought it looking to simulate "real" putting as much as possible.  When deciding on what to purchase, it was important to me to not want to look at lines down the putting mat when I'm putting.   The Perfect Practice Mat that DJ endorses looks cool, but when I stand over the ball on a course I will not have 10 feet of lines on the green in front of me.  Similarly, being able to stand on top of the mat allows me to zone out everything outside the mat.  I am in it.  Which is why I selected 4 feet wide, even though birdieball does offer more narrow options.   End detour rant.
    Performance Quality - 9/10
    Simply put - the thing rolls straight.    I'm pretty certain that I have some imperfections in my basement floor, and I still can't get it to roll anywhere except straight.  Terrific performance is all I can say.
    Two tiny notes:  The speed is mostly good, but I would say just a touch too quick.  I ordered the middle tier option (10-11 stimpmeter) and it feels quick.  Supposedly one side is with grain and one is against grain.  I don't notice much of a difference.   Two:  The mat is a total of 8'.  So expect to hit 5-6' putts.  The hole is about a foot from the edge.  I somewhat wish I had gone a little longer, but that's obviously no fault of Birdieball. 
    Impact on the Course (so far) - 10/10
    Obviously this is going to depend on the individual, but through two rounds the putting mat has adjusted my mentality and consistency, which has helped my performance.  I can drop myself mentally onto the mat when I'm standing over a putt within 6 feet.  And I know the straight puts at home will translate to the course.   As a practice tool I think that is as good as you can ask for.   
    But I will also add: The opportunity to practice putting daily is a huge change to my golf routine.  Prior to purchasing this, my practice consisted of going out 15-30 minutes before the round and rolling a few.  Then I stand on the green with unfamiliarity and uncertainty from my grip, to my rhythm, to where I'm aiming, etc. etc.   Being able to hit putts frequently has allowed me to test out a variety of grips.  Figure out a rhythm.  Develop consistency.  I am so much more comfortable over putts at the moment.  Over the last two rounds I have made 7 out of 11 from the roughly 5-6' range.  63%.  Baby steps.
    Overall - 28/30
    Thanks for reading.  As you can tell - I highly recommend.  A huge help if this is a weakness in your game, like it is in mine.  I'm going to continue to track putts in the 5-6 foot range.  Will report back. 
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from juspoole in BirdieBall Putting Mat 4'x8' Review   
    A little backstory
    I'm ~12 handicap with MANY inconsistencies and weaknesses in my game.   Starting last year I decided to really focus in on specific parts of my game for improvement.   Last year was short chips and driver consistency.
    This year's focus is driver consistency (last year's goal was not met - any tips would be helpful) and short putts.   For putting this year, I set a specific goal: to meet or exceed the tour average from 5-6 feet (~75%).  The Grint has me at 34.0 putts per round, and while I do not have the data to say how many of those putts were missed at 6 feet, I'll tell you it sure felt like a hell of a lot.  I would estimate I make about 40-50% from that range, with zero confidence as I stand over them.  This is classic "tester" range, and if you are like me, those failed tests then linger in your brain for the next few holes, which can end up costing you a few more shots.  Conversely, banging one of those home is a great momentum builder for me. 
    So I purchased the BirdieBall mat a month ago, and have rolled at least 15-20 putts daily from about 6 feet.  Now I have played a couple rounds.   Here are some of the observations and results. 
    Physical Quality - 9/10
    This thing legit feels like a green.  One review I read somewhere (probably on MGS) compared it to flat pool noodle with a grained texture on top.  I can't say it better.  You step on it, and it slightly sinks for a minute, then returns to it's original quality.   I feel like I'm actually on a green when I step on it (I will return to this thought in a second).   The only thing I wish is that it was a bit heavier.  But that's nitpicking.   

    This grain is quality...

    Ground level view.  Super flat, no wrinkling or creases...

    Love that it will actually drop in the hole.  Which brings me to a little mini-detour in my review...
    Some additional thoughts (skip down if you want to get back to the actual review) - I read a really interesting book a month ago, which is guiding all of the practice I'm doing.  It's Every Shot Must Have a Purpose by Pia Nillson.  One of the main ideas of the book is to simulate real golf as much as possible when practicing.  For example - don't hit your driver a bunch of times in a row at the range - you would never do that during an actual round of golf.  Back to this putting mat - I bought it looking to simulate "real" putting as much as possible.  When deciding on what to purchase, it was important to me to not want to look at lines down the putting mat when I'm putting.   The Perfect Practice Mat that DJ endorses looks cool, but when I stand over the ball on a course I will not have 10 feet of lines on the green in front of me.  Similarly, being able to stand on top of the mat allows me to zone out everything outside the mat.  I am in it.  Which is why I selected 4 feet wide, even though birdieball does offer more narrow options.   End detour rant.
    Performance Quality - 9/10
    Simply put - the thing rolls straight.    I'm pretty certain that I have some imperfections in my basement floor, and I still can't get it to roll anywhere except straight.  Terrific performance is all I can say.
    Two tiny notes:  The speed is mostly good, but I would say just a touch too quick.  I ordered the middle tier option (10-11 stimpmeter) and it feels quick.  Supposedly one side is with grain and one is against grain.  I don't notice much of a difference.   Two:  The mat is a total of 8'.  So expect to hit 5-6' putts.  The hole is about a foot from the edge.  I somewhat wish I had gone a little longer, but that's obviously no fault of Birdieball. 
    Impact on the Course (so far) - 10/10
    Obviously this is going to depend on the individual, but through two rounds the putting mat has adjusted my mentality and consistency, which has helped my performance.  I can drop myself mentally onto the mat when I'm standing over a putt within 6 feet.  And I know the straight puts at home will translate to the course.   As a practice tool I think that is as good as you can ask for.   
    But I will also add: The opportunity to practice putting daily is a huge change to my golf routine.  Prior to purchasing this, my practice consisted of going out 15-30 minutes before the round and rolling a few.  Then I stand on the green with unfamiliarity and uncertainty from my grip, to my rhythm, to where I'm aiming, etc. etc.   Being able to hit putts frequently has allowed me to test out a variety of grips.  Figure out a rhythm.  Develop consistency.  I am so much more comfortable over putts at the moment.  Over the last two rounds I have made 7 out of 11 from the roughly 5-6' range.  63%.  Baby steps.
    Overall - 28/30
    Thanks for reading.  As you can tell - I highly recommend.  A huge help if this is a weakness in your game, like it is in mine.  I'm going to continue to track putts in the 5-6 foot range.  Will report back. 
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from juspoole in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to Westside QC in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    Great observations and commentary from everyone on the Arccos platform.
    I have 102 rounds with Arccos and am a fan of the app with some reservations and recommendations to those using or looking to use.
    Cons:
    1.  Putting stats are useless.  Just a weakness that may or may not get resolved.
    - After each round, I go in on my laptop and place the flags as best as I remember which seems to help with first putt and chipping stats.  No clue if it has any impact on my second and or third putt.
    2.  Misses recording 3-4 shots per round.  Easy fix (10 seconds) as you're walking to next tee.  
    3.  Don't like carrying iphone in front pocket but I have gotten used to it for the most part.
    Pros:
    1. With about 8,000 shots recorded, I am dialed in on my club distances and gapping.  
    2. The caddie button displays wind speed, elevation change and is right on with club recommendation (to center of green)  Need to adjust front and back in my head since I don't want to take time to place pin until post round.  Tournament mode turns off elevation calculation.
    3. It does a good job of breaking down your handicap by each aspect of your game.  And in which direction each is trending.  
    4.  And it proves that the left side of #16 at Rustic Canyon accounts for 70% of my penalty strokes. 
    Overall, I recommend the platform as long as it doesn't slow down your play or interfere with your fun.
     
     
     
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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to fixyurdivot in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    Great write/review!  That is a very interesting perspective and honestly one I worry about with my personal game and level of enjoyment. Golf for me has always been a more casual, decompress sport.  The last thing I want is to add elements to the game that detract from it - or my focus on the game itself.  I only started using a Golf Buddy Voice 2 a couple years ago...managed to figure out yardages by pacing off from fairway markers for 50 years.  Now that I have the device and have come to rely on it, I find myself getting frustrated when the damn thing loses signal... suddenly I panic and feel completely exposed 😆.  I've been on the fence about adding ARCCOS to my game.  I do think it offers some cool information that can help one focus on parts of their game but, in truth, I already know where my strengths and weaknesses are.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from downlowkey in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from fixyurdivot in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from MaxEntropy in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I'd like to provide a follow up to my initial (mostly negative) post on the arccos system.

    Since my initial post I have played 5 more rounds with the system. I decided to take a very hands-off approach to the system based on the recommendation in this thread and have been mostly pleased with the results. Here are some strategies and observations:

    - at the start of each round I turned on the system and put my phone in my pocket. I then did not open the system until the end of the round.

    - the putts were of course a hopeless mess. Not worth further comment. Still terrible. But that was a given.

    - on average 3-4 shots per round were not picked up. I was able to take about 5-10 minutes after the round or later that night to easily update this based on memory. Not perfect but also much better than trying to pay attention to it on the course. I was surprised how much better the sensors worked since the first two rounds.

    - prior to getting the arccos my golf app of choice is the grint. So I went back to doing what I was doing - using the grint gps and scoring system. I was pleasantly surprised that running both the grint and arccos simultaneously did not significantly drain the phone battery more than just running arccos.

    - the post round arccos data is really helpful and impressive. I am honing in on my on course club distances and feeling more confident as I strategize.

    - I looked over the caddy features that kick in after 90 holes played and I love the course preview feature even if some recommendations look a little strange. Haven't yet played a round with using this feature to strategize, but I can't wait to do so.

    In sum- would I recommend someone pay $150 for the system and then $100 subscription fee? That answer is probably still no, but maybe because I'm a cheap-o. But since the arccos was free with the cobra connect I'm feeling like I might pay the subscription fee to keep going with it for a year longer. Luckily have two more months to decide on the free trial.

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using MyGolfSpy mobile app


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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from GregGarner in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I'd like to provide a follow up to my initial (mostly negative) post on the arccos system.

    Since my initial post I have played 5 more rounds with the system. I decided to take a very hands-off approach to the system based on the recommendation in this thread and have been mostly pleased with the results. Here are some strategies and observations:

    - at the start of each round I turned on the system and put my phone in my pocket. I then did not open the system until the end of the round.

    - the putts were of course a hopeless mess. Not worth further comment. Still terrible. But that was a given.

    - on average 3-4 shots per round were not picked up. I was able to take about 5-10 minutes after the round or later that night to easily update this based on memory. Not perfect but also much better than trying to pay attention to it on the course. I was surprised how much better the sensors worked since the first two rounds.

    - prior to getting the arccos my golf app of choice is the grint. So I went back to doing what I was doing - using the grint gps and scoring system. I was pleasantly surprised that running both the grint and arccos simultaneously did not significantly drain the phone battery more than just running arccos.

    - the post round arccos data is really helpful and impressive. I am honing in on my on course club distances and feeling more confident as I strategize.

    - I looked over the caddy features that kick in after 90 holes played and I love the course preview feature even if some recommendations look a little strange. Haven't yet played a round with using this feature to strategize, but I can't wait to do so.

    In sum- would I recommend someone pay $150 for the system and then $100 subscription fee? That answer is probably still no, but maybe because I'm a cheap-o. But since the arccos was free with the cobra connect I'm feeling like I might pay the subscription fee to keep going with it for a year longer. Luckily have two more months to decide on the free trial.

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using MyGolfSpy mobile app


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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from HeathS16 in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I like some of the suggestions here.   I am going to take a very hands off approach the next couple rounds and just let it run.  Will check at the end of the round how it turns out without worrying about it. 
    Maybe it's the phone.  I have a google pixel 2, but read all the tips and made sure I was following the steps for recognition.    Not sure how some users can go hundreds of rounds with only a handful of issues.  I genuinely hope it is something I'm doing wrong and I can figure out a solution.
    Thanks for this feedback.  Going to play a couple times within the next week.  Will update how it goes.
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from MaxEntropy in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I like some of the suggestions here.   I am going to take a very hands off approach the next couple rounds and just let it run.  Will check at the end of the round how it turns out without worrying about it. 
    Maybe it's the phone.  I have a google pixel 2, but read all the tips and made sure I was following the steps for recognition.    Not sure how some users can go hundreds of rounds with only a handful of issues.  I genuinely hope it is something I'm doing wrong and I can figure out a solution.
    Thanks for this feedback.  Going to play a couple times within the next week.  Will update how it goes.
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from PlaidJacket in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to MaxEntropy in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I've played almost 300 holes with Arccos since last fall and I can count the number of missed shots on a few fingers (putts excluded, of course). I would think there is something wrong with either the sensors or your phone. I'm leaning to your phone since the odds of 14 sensors being bad are pretty slim, in my mind. More often than not, missed shots are my fault as I always carry my phone in my left rear pocket when I'm not golfing and I'll occasionally put it there out of habit while I'm playing. We have had a lot of discussions about shot trackers. A decent summary is here:
    As far as pin locations go, I agree that this is the area with the biggest room for improvement, but struggle to figure out a better way, short of asking every golf course on the planet to upload their pin locations after each change. I was one begging for "Mark Pin" button as the AI that was determining pin location in previous iterations was terrible.
    I think we are a long way off from a system that is truly hands-off. IMO, having played with both ShotScope and Arccos, Arccos is a bit closer to being hands-off, but I typically have a pretty good memory of each shot/pin locations so post-round editing is easy and not a big problem to me. It does introduce some error in the stats since I am manually placing the pin and location of first putt. I would suggest this averages out over time.
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from MaxEntropy in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from Kansas King in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from Zen Snake in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from MattF in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from cnosil in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy got a reaction from The 19th Hole in Arccos - Initial Impressions   
    I thought I would weigh in with an unofficial review on my recent Arccos experience over the last two weeks.  A little backstory: I purchased an F9 driver and Arccos sent the completed set of sensors for the three month trial a couple weeks ago.  Since then, I have played two rounds so far (actually 1.5 rounds, as I'll explain in a moment).   I fully realize everyone's experience is different, but If you have any interest in the system -- and especially if you are considering buying the sensors and not getting them for free through cobra connect -- I would recommend you buckle your seatbelt for a bumpy Arccos experience breakdown.
    Pros:
    The data feedback after the round was kind of cool.  Even after a single round there were a couple nice insights.  I also like the feature of breaking down individual components of the game for separate handicaps.  Cons:
    Upon reflection, I have never felt so disengaged from the actual sport of golf as these past two rounds.  And full disclosure: I truly love golf data and analysis and all that.  What I didn't love was that as I played I couldn't help but feel that fun was being sucked out of the sport.  I can't really say it was because I was confused or getting used to it.  I watched and read up on the system, as I was excited to use it.  Watched all the tutorials.  Researched what to do.  But it simply became a chore throughout the round to maintain the system.  I realize this may just be a personal thing, but it truly had me questioning why I was playing golf this way.  The killer flaw: the recognition of the sensors was absolutely horrendous and so damn frustrating.  Did I get a bad batch of sensors or something?  I was making sure to check the system constantly because almost every hole, and definitely every other hole, something had not been recognized.  I was following all the tips: practice swing, etc., etc.   Still too often nothing registering.  And then it started sitting in the back of my mind: an underlying kind of mistrust in what was going on.  And every time a shot was not picked up I just became angry.  Now, instead of thinking about my next shot, I'm rushing around and annoyed as I'm trying to click to diagnose if a shot registered, or if I need to click around in the app to fix things. When a shot is not picked up by the sensor, zooming in to properly place a marker where an unrecognized shot was brutal, especially if I had already started moving to the next shot.  Again, I know to each his own - but I felt like a fool immediately checking my phone after every single shot, squinting at the screen, then vigorously dragging and clicking buttons. BY FAR the worst part of the system is the putting setup.  Simply useless.  Back to the drawing board with this Arccos.  When you get to the green you have to designate where the pin is and then drag it with your finger.   Or walk to the stick and tap your phone while at the stick.  Literally stand next to the pin with your phone open and out tapping away.  Crazy.  I ended up just inputting the number of putts after the hole.  I'm still not exactly sure what it was doing there. That's about enough I guess.  In sum -  it was midway through the second round, when I was on the 5th or 6th straight hole where something hadn't registered that I said enough is enough.  Finished the round on the trusty Grint app.   As I reflect right now, I find I'm actually kind of insulted by Arccos.  They bill themselves as THE premium product in this space.  $150 to buy the set on amazon if you don't get the free set with a driver.  Then the kicker: $100 subscription a year.   The product is simply nowhere near any sort of premium quality in my opinion. 
    I have heard some mixed things in the forums (which I actually really appreciate because it kept me from purchasing the standalone Arccos system earlier).  Will probably give it one or two more rounds, and if things improve I'll be the first to be back on here telling about it.   I'd love to hear if anyone has any special tips or tricks.  I would also absolutely take any recommendations for similar products that have helped you track your game with data.  
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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to Hotdocta in PXG Driver...Deal too good to pass up?   
    I loved the x gen2.  I gamed it all last year and it was a low spin bomber.  I started the year with an accra tz6 and ended with my old faithful tour ad bb.
    feeling wise, it is muted and had a nice thud.  For me, probably the best sounding and feeling driver I have hit.
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    GambyGolfGuy reacted to GolfSpy_BNG in PXG Driver...Deal too good to pass up?   
    I just purchased a used Gen 2 0811x head to try to curb my constant thinking about the Proto X. This was the #1 option when I went through the TrueGolfFit last year but never thought I would drop the coin without being able to try it. With this deal for everybody until the end of May, it made finding a head only at a similar price as other oems more manageable. I actually sold my TS2 with only one round played with the Gen 2 on the way. Figured if the Gen 2 doesn’t work I can use the money from the ts2 and the resale of the Gen 2 to offset the cost of the Proto X. It is cool to see companies doing this type of stuff.


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