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As no one has made the joke yet from what I can see, and as your friendly neighborhood spider....i mean attorney, please don't drink and drive I don't mind players who drink and will occasionally enjoy a drink with friends on the course. But living in a very hot place during the summers, I just get too dehydrated if I'm not guzzling water and a drink doesn't help.

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Well also think about how these clubs are also oriented towards people with bad striking and who don't play or practice all that often. When i was first starting out, I had so many holes in my game that I wasn't paying attention to things like spin and how well the ball stuck on the greens. Instead, I was ecstatic hitting relatively straight, relatively high shots consistently. And these hybrid irons are designed just for that: forgive mishits and chunks, get the ball up in the air, and straighten out the not as bad strikes. So I think that they actually give their target audience what they're looking for. And for the more experienced players or as a new player develops, you learn that on most courses, you can aim a bit differently to account for the lack of spin.

I mentioned this in a different thread on this, but Rick did a review on the putter and i agree with his take. Given how new this tech is to the industry, there are plenty of kinks to work out. But the potential is there for some amazing products down the line that can reshape how we view putter design and construction. https://youtu.be/RZ2u0fE97dM

And Rick did the same (without the giveaway). Interesting to here the different perspectives on it. I like what this putter's 3d printing tech and the recent articles on MIM tech are bringing to the table, but i think we're still a few years away from top tier, fully hitting their stride products.

Exactly! That's one of the main reasons why I chose the Cleveland CBX Launchers. TXG on their channel this morning in looking at the ZX irons mentioned how good the Vsole is for diggers or people like me with a steeper path. And speaking from experience, knowing that there's that turf forgiveness is just such a mental comfort and one less thing to worry about that it really feels so much smoother throughout your shot.

Thanks! And I'd be very pleasantly surprised to see a Srixon SGI, since I've had only had good experience with the company as a whole and loved hitting the Cleveland Launcher line. I couldn't get over the looks of the HB and UHX irons, but they hit so well and consistently. It would definitely be fun to see how Srixon would design and present an SGI.

Since I'm not smart enough to quote multiple people in the same post, I'll just do a single response. So I don't think Srixon is going to release an SGI. That seems to go against what they're shaping their business model as. Instead, I think Cleveland will continue to expand on the GI and SGI lines while Srixon will focus on the better players. And you see that focus in the common tech. My CBX launchers from Cleveland have V soles and me and every other CBX user I know loves them. Lo and behold, you now get that tech in a player's iron. Also, as Srixon keeps growing, I don't think they'll be able to keep the prices as low as they used to. Which isn't bad. Rather, it seems they're using Cleveland and Xxio as the product testers, refining the concepts that work for Srixon, and dumping the higher research costs on the players willing to pay for the better gear while keeping Cleveland more accessible and affordable to the casual golfer. I love the look of these irons. Speaking from experience, some of the tech in them that they grabbed from the Cleveland Launcher line will make golfers very happy. And well done Srixon.

I'd generally say no, because golf balls are really dependent on the person. I'm someone who loses at least one ball a round. As a result, I play cheaper balls to remove that stress, whereas I'd feel stressed and guilty losing a ball that was a gift. Then again, a better player who doesn't lose balls often might not lose as many balls, but may be set in their ball preference (e.g. pro V1s as opposed to a different tour ball). In contrast, an initialed or personalized golf towel, divot tool or ball marker have a bit more permanence associated with them. Here's also a really good list of gift ideas for golfers that go from cheap ($15) to expensive. https://www.groovyguygifts.com/blogs/news/personalized-gifts-golf-lovers

You're lucky. My dad would have taken them out for a round "just to see if they really would be good for me." So unlike the picture from your dad, the one from mine would have been sent from the tee box.

Ahhh, that makes sense. Cause with that warning, by sending it, you're granting permission and waiving your property right. Thanks for letting me know! As an attorney, it's a fascinating concept.

Counterfeit and stolen are completely different legal principles. So not similar in the least.

Really? That goes against a lot of property law and ownership principles. I mean, there's not enough in any one case to convince me or another attorney to pursue legal action. But without permission, companies generally don't have a legal right to destroy the property of others, even counterfeits. That's what's called conversion and entitles you to full compensation. Even if it's an under infringement on your intellectual property, you don't get to punish the innocent third party consumer. That doesn't strengthen preventative or reparative legal policy. Do you have any examples of companies that do this regularly? Or even an example of one that's done it more than once?

Im pretty sure they can't legally destroy your property without your permission. If they did, youd have a good claim to demand that they reimburse you for what you paid for the fake or at least that they give you a replacement for the destroyed club. Which seems pretty good to me.

So I'm not an expert at this, but I'd lean towards fake. Look at the Newport 2.0s on the official website vs. yours: https://www.scottycameron.com/archives/putters/2006/studio-style/newport-2/ If you look at the S on the back, the actual Scotty has a flatter S whereas yours has a different font on the bottom (it tilts up more). The front has a milled face whereas yours is smooth (has been mentioned already, but needs to be reiterated). The colors are off The official website and other ones I've seen in different lights have the yellow, green and blue slightly darker/paler. Whereas the official ones also have the red actually a bit brighter than yours. As others have mentioned, the shaft and grip are off. And a few smaller things. That being said, a well crafted chunk of metal is a well crafted chunk of metal. So it'll probably still be pretty smooth to hit.

I haven't heard of it. But I'm curious if people would be interested in such a service and why? If you're buying a specific grinded wedge, why would you want to change it? Swing change over time? I can understand the refinish, but the grind is the part that I just don't see.

Not required, but beneficial to most. I played with spiked shoes most of my life, but have had multiple foot surgeries that have made a lot of spikes and shoes in general uncomfortable. So, at the recommendation of my father in law, I now play in a pair of Vans and only notice the slight loss in traction on wet days. But i just see that as an extra balance excercise. Overall, especially with covid making more people take up golf, the dress code at most courses is relaxing to "respectful." So you can pick up a cheap pair of spikes at a clearance store (I know the store Ross had brand new last gen Nike spikes for $20 a while ago). But don't feel pressured to if you want to play in sneakers your first few games while you dip your toes in the pool.

I mean, we're all fanatics here. So work on both to have both shots in your toolbox. But then rely primarily on the one that you're more comfortable with.

I mean, the Cleveland Launcher brand includes multiple models. I agree that the HB launchers (the SGI iron wood set) are a bit too chunky for my taste and i passed on them cause they didn't suit my eye. Similarly I'd only use the UHX launchers (the chunkier GI irons) in the longer irons because the shorter irons are again a bit too chunky. But the CBX's are actually not that big for a GI iron and they feel pretty good for a cast iron that i got at a third of the price of a lot of the forged irons. Then again, I have the CBX launchers in my bag because I love the toe forgiveness. So i chose my irons more off of what my weakness was and what iron helped my weakness the most.

You're forgetting the 50 pounds of fruit roll ups....which are clearly for guests and kids and won't be consumed solely by me.

I think it's worth keeping in mind that the pros use both. Depending on the lie and difficulty of the shot, it changes the need for a shot that carries the distance and dies immediately or rolls out. From what I was taught, the general progression is putter, iron chip and run, and then pitch. You have far less of a chance of fatting or thinning a putt or chip than you do a pitch. And if you use a putter stroke for your chip, it's very easy to control. The asterisk on that though is confidence and practice. If you've never practiced chip and runs and are confident and consistent with your pitching, then pitch. Commitment to your shot is often more important than the type of shot. E.g. why on two similar ball locations, I believe Schaufele putted and Morikawa pitched and both has nearly the same result.

I've tried both and found that neither is particularly advantageous over the other. And both have the same miss of a pull. What I've found to be more important for me is having my left elbow out and pointing along my stroke path. That way my arms and hands are less active and I get a far more consistent and straight pendulum motion.

Comfort and feel. It's about what best allows you to have a smooth, consistent, comfortable swing. Think of it similar to blade vs. mallet putters. There are tangible benefits, but you can easily rock other types and make it work. My putter is a 33 inch blade, but for fun I've gamed other people's putters which ranged up to 36 inches for full rounds and been fine.

Given that you can get new 2019 P790s (the newer version) for around 1050 at some places, I'd say it's not that good of a deal for the older 2017 set. https://www.dallasgolf.com/new-taylormade-2019-p790-irons/?sku=199082319033/&gclid=CjwKCAjw0On8BRAgEiwAincsHJlylbY7ZNedHZbCTT_ZO52E7wxwRL1s2PwZiSgxsd_yrKTigbTqIBoClzcQAvD_BwE

This! So when several pros were asked about what they think about during their swing or when having the yips, they almost all responded "never mechanics, just having a good tempo." So I tried that out with my putter. I bought an aluminium yardstick and practiced just creating a smooth swing that went from one end of the yardstick to the other without falling off the sides. That gave me confidence that I'll hit my putts straight. And so now on the course all i think about is having a smooth tempo and my mind takes the wheel for me and tells my body what to do. New putters are great, but they're really just an enhancement tool for fundamentals. It's far more important to get the fundamentals and the mental aspects right so that your stroke is consistent and most importantly CONFIDENT.