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    gavinski91 got a reaction from jbern in The Good Morning Thread   
    I had been seeing this all over my social media, since I follow a handful of Barstool folks, and had watched a few clips. Decided this morning to check out the stream, and he made it on the first shot I watched. So I'm gonna take a little bit of credit for this one 😆
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from fixyurdivot in New Release! WILSON STAFF MODEL GOLF BALLS: THE 2024 HUNT FOR BALL SPEED   
    Yep, tough to imagine them capturing any market share if they're priced the same as ProV1s.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from fixyurdivot in The Good Morning Thread   
    Sorry to hear it Kenny, but glad that you're ok for now. Will keep you and Martha in my prayers.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from cksurfdude in The Good Morning Thread   
    I had been seeing this all over my social media, since I follow a handful of Barstool folks, and had watched a few clips. Decided this morning to check out the stream, and he made it on the first shot I watched. So I'm gonna take a little bit of credit for this one 😆
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from Kenny B in The Good Morning Thread   
    Sorry to hear it Kenny, but glad that you're ok for now. Will keep you and Martha in my prayers.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from Rob Person in New Release! WILSON STAFF MODEL GOLF BALLS: THE 2024 HUNT FOR BALL SPEED   
    Yep, tough to imagine them capturing any market share if they're priced the same as ProV1s.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from jbern in The Good Morning Thread   
    Sorry to hear it Kenny, but glad that you're ok for now. Will keep you and Martha in my prayers.
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    gavinski91 reacted to edingc in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I've since moved on but that was an experience to say the least!
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    gavinski91 reacted to fixyurdivot in Odyssey Ai-ONE Milled Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Introduction
    Hello Spies and thanks for checking out the Odyssey AI One Milled Putter product test reviews!  My name is Bill and I have been a member of MGS sine June 2018.  I stumbled onto the website while doing searches for new irons; never having heard of My Golf Spy before.  If memory serves, it was a product review on the Srixon Z585's.  Poking down through the website, I subsequently found several of the annual "Most Wanted" reviews and really liked the format.  Club performance data generated by a nice cross-section of handicaps... as opposed to data heavily weighted using near scratch golfers... what a concept!! 
    It wasn't until a week or so later that I saw we had a forum.  Having tried a couple of other golf forums and finding one sort of okay, and another which I did not like at all, I found MGS to be a superb group of folks and have truly enjoyed my time here. I know some members in-person but even those I've yet to meet feel like long time friends.
    @Kenny B and his lovely wife Martha when they visited us in Yuma, AZ

    Kenny, Martha and Chris (@Thin2win) at Circling Raven, ID, during our 2020 PNW Spy Meet

    I was introdiced to the game by my Dad at age 6 and played in the JGA in Ft. Lauderdale, FL for several years before we relocated out west.  While I always played as the years rolled along, there were periods where military, college, and my career with Boeing limited me to a dozen or so rounds per year.  After retiring in 2016 and relocating to Montana (the golf capital of the world 😆), I split my time between flyfishing and golf.  Between home in MT and wintering in Yuma, AZ, I was playing about 70 rounds/year.  
    Mode of travel on the Madison River

    Mode of travel here in Surprise, AZ

    We have sinced re-located to Sun City Grand (now The Grand) in Surprise, AZ and I am playing ~120 rounds per year on the 4 championship courses we have in our "active adult" community. While I have returned my golf game back to a lifetime PB (7.7 index), I am still better with a 5 weight flyrod than I am with a 5 iron 😊.
    During my tenure with MGS,  I have been fortunate to have been selected to test a handful of products.  I am still playing the PING G410P and the Evnroll ER5v.  But, as is the case for most of us golfers, the quest for that magic putter seems to always lurk in our minds... even when we think the one we're rolling is "the one".  So this is what peaked my interest in the latest Odyssey putters.  In particular is the Artificial Intellegence (AI) face insert... purportedly offering more consistenty across the face.  A more forgiving putter?  Sign me up 👍.
    I'm really excited about testing this putter and will be doing a H2H comparison against my Evnroll ER5V. 

    I will be using a strokes gained test format that I employed when I tested the Evnroll against my now retired Ping B61.  This test format is a version of one Tony Covey and staff employed on most wanted tests. 
    So let the putts start rolling and the data lead us to a result/decision 😍.

    Package Open/First Impressions  (18 of 20)
    I received my putter yesterday afternoon and got so caught up waiting for the UPS truck to arrive, I missed the "testers conference call" 🙃.  I had it in my head that it was this afternoon... the perils of being retired and keeping calendars.  I resisted opening the box until today so that the "official reveal" was... well... official.  I am so bad at these 🫣.
    I believe all of the putters arrived for all testers yesterday and that is for sure the fastest order to arrival of any product tests I've done.  The folks at Callaway made quick work of getting these out.  The box was received in good condition and the putter, with headcover on, was framed/protected by an internal cardboard divider.  In addition to the P.O., a small specification card was provided.

    My first impressions were quite positive.  The head was a bit smaller than I expected, but not overly so.  This is among their mallet style, high MOI designs and it looks like they have found a nice balance of offering added forgiveness without getting excessively large.  It also feels a bit lighter than my Evnroll but I plan to get my gram scale out and compare.
    Aesthetics (9 of 10)
    The machine workmanship is very good and I really like the white alignment lines - quite bold.  The PVD Navy/Steel Blue with the Gold AI insert face is sharp... and I'm not just saying that because I'm a Notre Dame fan.  The engraved logo's also find a good balance of pop without being overdone.

    The "Stroke Lab" shaft has a pretty large label which takes up about half the length of the shaft.  The only issue I have with these is that they tend to get scraped up over time going in & out of the bag.

    The Odyssey grip I chose is the OD-PT-Q4 Pistol.  It most closely matched the style I have now and that I really like. It's a nice looking grip that matches the colors on the head.  It feels a little softer and slicker than I'm using.  I also note that it is about an inch shorter.  That had my left hand low forefinger extending below the grip and onto the shaft.  I'll be interested to see how this feels while putting.

    The headcover is very nicely made and also has the same colors.  Again, the swen logo's offer a nice balance of pop without being too much (for my taste). The inside has a velvet-like fabric for added protection and the magnetic flap snaps positively into place.


    If you have any questions or want more details, please let me know.  Now it's time this putter rolls balls... lots of balls 👍. 
    Okay, had a chance after my round this morning (worked hard for an 81) to test out the putter on the green.  It was a cold morning with a north wind from 7-15mph... so the practice area was a ghost town.  Retired people, living in AZ, have a low tolerance for "adverse" weather 😆.
    OMG, what a difference in feel than my ER5v.  Much more pronounced "click" and softer... or so my mind thinks. This being the first "insert face" style putter I've tried, it feels much different but in a good way. 
    Before I get started on the H2H, strokes gained test, I'll spend at least one session putting the wagon wheel locations around the hole from the 3 distances.  This should give me a good feel/baseline and make the comparison more evenly matched.





    The Numbers (10 of 10)
    Arguably the most important portion of testing clubs; how does the product effect the ability to get the ball from tee into the hole. I really had fun doing this part of the review.  I completed the strokes gained test matrix I described in this post. A total of 450 putts between the Odyssey and my Evnroll.  After crunching the data, here are the results.

    As my time on the green suggested to me, this was going to be a very close contest. The Seven T proved itself more accurate overall; slightly better in the 5 and 20 foot distance and the ER5v slightly better at the 10 foot distance.  Ultimately, the SG testing suggests the Odyssey might offer me  just over a half stroke better scoring.  No doubt, had I tested this against my previous gamer (Ping B61), I'm certain it would offer something over one stroke gained per round.
    As I mentioned in a couple of my progress/update posts, I find the Seven T CH to be a great feeling putter that inspires confidence.  Distance control is very good as is stability - particularly on those long lag, big backstroke, off-center strikes.
    While not part of the SG tests, I did spend some time putting from the apron.  I did not notice any loss in my ability to move the ball across the longer grass and was able to judge distance pretty well.  
    Regarding "forgiveness", this is the principle design feature of the Artificial Intellegence (AI) faces.  These face inserts are not of a constant cross-section but rather of varying thickness.  The final design of these is based on thousands and thousands of data points that capture where players of all capability tend to miss-strike the ball.  Instead of these toe and heel side hits yielding less than optimum control of distance and path, the AI face compensates, lessening the adverse effect of off-center strikes.  Here is more detail on this feature from Johnny Wunder.
    In a period of time where the term AI often tends to simply be a buzz marketing tool, this approach by the Callaway/Odyssey design team makes perfect sense! Hats off to them 👏.

    That said, my attempts to verify this forgiveness on shorter to moderate length putts fell a bit short.  Try as I might, I just could not control strike force accurately enough to see a measureable difference.  However, there have already been some independent test labs who have employed putting robots, and they have demonstrated benefits of the AI face tecnology.  You can check those tests and results here.
    Several articles I read about these new putters spoke about the improvement offered for getting more long lag putts closer to the hole more often.  Being closer to the hole on those second putts is always a good thing - increasing the odds of making that next putt.
    So, I decided to do a smaller scale test to see if this was true of the Odyssey and to what extent it offered improvement over my gamer.  Here is a description of that test, and here are the results.


    1.7 inches doesn't sound like much, but if one subscribes to the "closer is always better" axiom, it could be the difference in more second putt makes.
    On the Course (20 of 20)
    I now have 5 rounds completed with the Odyssey and finding the putter to have all the prowess it showed on the practice green during tests.  I like the look at address on it a little better than the Evnroll.  The bold white alignment marks on the top rail and the talons (which envelope the face insert) are very easy to see and focus on. They sort of "frame" the ball which aids in set-up.
    Honestly, two of the rounds were among my worst in the past few months but it did not have anything to do with the putter.  I contribute those to my less than stellar wedge and short chips.  I might argue that the Odyssey helped keep those scores from being worse 🤪.
    The Good, Bad, and In-between (17 out of 20)
    So the good is that the AI face technology is absolutely not marketing baloney but rather well thought out design.  While truth in advertising is not law here in the USA, rest assured there is truth in how the new faces improve putter performance.
    The bad is that I'm already starting to see burnishing/wear of the PVD coating on the leading, bottom edge.  I really haven't seen any OEM products offering these colored coatings survive that well. Being this is a putter and I'm quite careful of how I handle, use, and store clubs, I was a bit surprised by the quick wear.  For many (normal people 😆), this is no issue but for those of us who suffer from how our clubs look OCD... well, it's something to consider.

    The in-between is that the handle I ordered is about 1/2" shorter than my gamer.  With my left hand low grip style, this has my left forefinger struggling to stay on the grip and not onto the shaft.  It dosen't seem to adversely effect my putting numbers but just feels a bit odd.  I might also throw in that the sticker on the shaft, is quite long and I suspect will start getting scarred up pretty quick if one is not careful moving it in/out of the bag.  Again, just a cosmetic thing for those who care about such things.
    Play it or Trade it  (18 of 20)
    After 18 rounds with the Seven T CH, I have decided it will be my primary gamer.  I say primary because the ER5v is still a fantastic performer for me and it's great having two flat sticks to draw from.  For those that followed my update posts, I experienced a couple of bad rounds with the Odyssey and decided to bench it for a couple of rounds.  I knew those performances were more archer than arrow but being able to swap out putters was a nice option.  
    But ultimately, I like the feel and look at address of the Odyssey a little better than the Evnroll.  Also, I'm going with the SG and lag putt tests from the head to head testing.  There is nothing like having your own data help make the final decision.
    Conclusion 
    So here's my key take-away/conclusion about the Odyssey AI milled insert putters - they are the real deal!  That's right folks, no overblown, long on promises and short on performance marketing hype here... but rather well thought out and developed technology that improves putting consistency.  
    As you can see from my various testing, the numbers support the claims.  While we may not be talking big differences, they are improvements nonetheless.  I will gladly take an additional 0.67 strokes gained and lag putts nearly 2 inches closer to the hole.  
    With all the various models Odyssey offers, in both the milled and non-milled face, one can most definitely pick the best one for their particular putting stroke and feel.  From there, the AI magic is already "built-in" and is based on data from users like you and me.  That's right, where we tend to mishit, they added help... you just gotta love simple, eloquent design approaches to problems and improvement.
    I want to conclude by once again thanking the folks at Odyssey and our MGS staff for this test opportunity.  I hope my testing has provided good information for anyone interested in Odyssey's latest line of putters.  As always, if you have questions, please do ask in the thread or send me an IM.  Thanks for following along!
    Final Score (92 of 100)
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from EasyPutter in The Good Morning Thread   
    Sorry to hear it Kenny, but glad that you're ok for now. Will keep you and Martha in my prayers.
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    gavinski91 reacted to Kenny B in The Good Morning Thread   
    Good Morning everyone!!  Limited internet here in the hospital so keep it short.  I had 2 heart attacks yesterday and nice ride in an ambulance… bypassed ER directly to an OR.  Two stents later and no sleep, I’m cranky.  Get to come back in 2 weeks for more.  No golf!!  Hopefully, I’ll be able to make our trip to Palm Springs in mid-February.
    Will checkin again when I get home tomorrow.  Sad!!  🥴
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from cksurfdude in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    @edingc has a good review thread: 
     
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from Rob Person in The Good Morning Thread   
    I had been seeing this all over my social media, since I follow a handful of Barstool folks, and had watched a few clips. Decided this morning to check out the stream, and he made it on the first shot I watched. So I'm gonna take a little bit of credit for this one 😆
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from EasyPutter in The Good Morning Thread   
    I had been seeing this all over my social media, since I follow a handful of Barstool folks, and had watched a few clips. Decided this morning to check out the stream, and he made it on the first shot I watched. So I'm gonna take a little bit of credit for this one 😆
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from Josh Parker in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    @edingc has a good review thread: 
     
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from BobBC78 in The Good Morning Thread   
    I had been seeing this all over my social media, since I follow a handful of Barstool folks, and had watched a few clips. Decided this morning to check out the stream, and he made it on the first shot I watched. So I'm gonna take a little bit of credit for this one 😆
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    gavinski91 reacted to Byrnzee in The Good Morning Thread   
    Update for anyone interested:
    Jersey Jerry finally made the hole-in-one after 2,627 attempts lasting 37 hours, 2 minutes and 10 seconds (including sleeping in the simulator overnight). Golf social media is collectively losing their minds 😂
     
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    gavinski91 reacted to MN.LeftyGolfer in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I just bought my first Autoflex driver shaft for my Titleist TSR2.  A buddy wouldn't stop praising his Autoflex during one of our last rounds so I decided I had to try one for myself.  Does anyone else have experience with these shafts?

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    gavinski91 reacted to ParFore74x in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I’ve never used the barrel style headcover so I was a touch concerned about how well they would stay on. I am pleased with how secure they fit and how easily they come off when I want them off. One thing that I really like about the Cayce headcovers is the liner material. It reminds me of the sherpa liner inside of a Carhartt jacket. I told my wife that it helps to keep the clubs warm. Of course, she rolled her eyes at me but it was funny. 😂 
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from sirchunksalot in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I've got the dumpster fire headcover on my 3 wood. I love the fact that it goes on and off so much easier than the stock ones, but still holds on well enough to stay put when bouncing around.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from ParFore74x in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I've got the dumpster fire headcover on my 3 wood. I love the fact that it goes on and off so much easier than the stock ones, but still holds on well enough to stay put when bouncing around.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from cksurfdude in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I've got the dumpster fire headcover on my 3 wood. I love the fact that it goes on and off so much easier than the stock ones, but still holds on well enough to stay put when bouncing around.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from Josh Parker in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I've got the dumpster fire headcover on my 3 wood. I love the fact that it goes on and off so much easier than the stock ones, but still holds on well enough to stay put when bouncing around.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from IndyBonzo in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    I've got the dumpster fire headcover on my 3 wood. I love the fact that it goes on and off so much easier than the stock ones, but still holds on well enough to stay put when bouncing around.
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    gavinski91 got a reaction from Kevin W in Non-Golf Shoes: What works best for you?   
    I find that my spikeless shoes have a stiffer sole than my trail runners (even though some of my trail runners have more aggressive tread), so it provides a bit more of a stable platform for faster/harder swings.
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