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  1. Great forum, great community, and I am sure one of the knowledgeable members has come across this question before (or, can point me in the right direction). I have used the search bar some to pin point this topic to some effect, but haven't come across the answer that satisfies my curiosity. I already know and understand a dynamic fitting and static fitting work best for shaft fitting and it's hard to beat a good (and patient) fitter. My question pertains to online iron shaft fitting/recommendations from most of the shaft manufacturers and/or online fitting services: How relevant is a question regarding iron distance (say, 6i carry) when your current 6i loft and the set you are interested in purchasing is different? I could ,theoretically, hit my 6i 170 yards using a 26* loft but only hit my buddies 6i 155 yards using 29*...these are just relative numbers to express a questionable point... with all other variables being the same (relatively speaking) but loft. My interpretation of the line of questions for iron shaft recommendation is that it is generating results based on flight and dispersion preferences along with swing speed/power/carry distance. However, if my current 6i is 26* and is allowing me to move the ball 170yds down the fairway, how good is the online fitting tool going to be if the new set I am interested in has a more traditional loft to it? Am I totally off base in this line of thinking? Are the manufacturers shaft recommendations useless? Again, I apologize if this has already been discussed ad nauseam. Happy golfing!
  2. Matt Saternus (used to be with MGS) of PluggedInGolf.com posted an interesting article... "Do wedge shafts matter?" https://pluggedingolf.com/do-wedge-shafts-matter-golf-myths-unplugged/ He tested in a similar style to MGS using a variety of recreational players and identical wedge heads with different shafts, then swapping them among the players and having them hit different short game shots. Results are measured by Trackman at a Club Champion. The questions he was looking to "Confirm" or "Bust" include... Myth #1 – A wedge shaft can create more spin Myth #2 – A wedge shaft can change launch angle Myth #3 – A wedge shaft can improve accuracy Myth #4 – A wedge shaft can improve consistency Myth #5 – The same shaft will fit all your wedges Interesting and informative article .. worth a look! https://pluggedingolf.com/do-wedge-shafts-matter-golf-myths-unplugged/
  3. As an avid MGS'er, you know doubt have read about, or even tried, TrueGolfFit - Adam and Tony's personalized online golf fitting engine. You give TrueGolfFit what amounts to your swing DNA, and the engine's algorithms search and filter the mountain of data MyGolfSpy has collected over the years to deliver to you your best fit and first alternative driver. And the fit is guaranteed! Now, what if you combine that online fitting with Global Golf's U-try driver demo program? For $25 Global Golf will send you the driver of your choice, brand-new and unopened, to try on your home course for two weeks. If you like it, keep and and the $25 goes toward your purchase price. Don't like it? Send it back. The shipping is all taken care of. At MyGolfSpy we're all about having forum members put things to real live tests to experience for themselves what a club/device/program etc does, and to bring honest, unbiased feedback to the rest of the forum. This testing was a bit unique as it involved two separate entities that MGS combined into one experience. As such it took a bit of patience to get all the pieces moving in the correct direction but in the end I think our testers will be able to give some solid feedback on, TrueGolfFit, Global U Try and most fun of all the drivers they were fit for. Note: Due to the nature of this testing where the testers get to keep the driver, they will not be able to review the return process. Feel free to hit them up with all the questions you can think of, I know they are eager to get going. Goaliewales14 Stage 1 GoalieWales14 Stage 2 GB13 Stage 1 GB13 Stage 2 808Nation Stage 1 808Nation Stage 2 Eseay32 Stage 1 Eseay32 Stage 2
  4. Hi everyone, I just joined, and I appreciate the forum. Cool, just what I was looking for. I am trying to understand why I am hooking my new Apex Pro Irons. My previous irons, Taylor Made, I couldn't draw to save my life, payed them straight or with a slight fade. I was fitted with the Callaway irons and they looked pretty good on the monitor, good feel, 4,000 rpm, pretty straight. The issue I am 6'6" and I play 2 degrees upright, 1.5 inches longer, and jumbo grips. So what I test isn't exactly what I get. The shaft is True Temper XP 95, S300. I received the production clubs, and now if I hit a 3/4 shot it goes straight; if I hit a stock stock it draws left of the flag even if I am aligned correctly, and if I hit a full shot, the ball draws well left of the flag. I am a 4 handicap player and generally a very good iron player. I can't tell if the irons have a draw bias, or if the shaft is wrong. Any suggestions on what to try, or any experience with Apex Pro irons? Thanks much, Rob
  5. My family presented me with the opportunity to buy any putter I wanted really and would love to do a bit more than just go find something at PGA Tour Superstore that I happen to like that day as that's how I bought the two putters I've used the last five years or so. I know should probably be looking for SAM labs but if anyone has recommendations as to who or where or any other advice I'd love to hear it! Do know of Club Champion & the Southlake Golf Galaxy have the SAM lab but that's about it so far as haven't had a ton of time to research.
  6. I've always been fit to 3/4 or 1" over in iron fittings, depending on the OEM and their standard length. But recently I went to a demo where I wanted try two different shafts in the same iron. But they only had one shaft in 1/2 over and the other in the 1" over. I hit the 1" well enough, mostly like my normal shaft length. Then when I tried the 1/2 it was like magic, every shot seemed flushed and seemed to have much more solid contact. Could it be similar to drivers, where the shorter shaft gave me much more control thus producing more consistent contact. I know the answer seems obvious based on the above results. But I guess I had just never thought of irons that way, It seemed i was always fit more for my posture stance with the 1" vs. better results with a shorter shaft. I didn't seem to notice a huge difference in my set up, meaning I didn't feel like I was more hunched over with the 1/2 than the 1" but that was just my feel, I obviously couldn't see for myself.
  7. In Short: I cannot imagine having a more enjoyable club fitting experience anywhere else and look forward to a putter fitting with True Spec in the near future. I haven't seen too many threads providing fitting experiences/reviews, especially with True Spec Golf (https://www.truespecgolf.com/). For those of you not familiar with True Spec, here are highlights: Founded in 2014 15 Locations in 6 Countries: North America: Bronx (NY), Chicago (IL), Columbus (OH), Jupiter (FL), Miami (FL), Naples (FL), New York City (NY), Orlando (FL), and Nassau (Bahamas) Europe: Geneva (Switzerland), Sotogrande (Spain), and Turnberry (Scotland) Asia: Hanoi (Vietnam) and Tokyo (Japan) Partner Brands Club Manufacturers: Bettinardi, Callaway, Cleveland, Cobra, Epon, ENVROLL, Fourteen, Gimar, Miura, Mizuno, Odyssey, Ping, PXG, SeeMore, Srixon, TaylorMade, and Titleist Shaft Manufacturers: Accra, Aerotech, Fujikura, Graphite Design, KBS, Matrix, Mitsubishi Rayon, Nippon, Oban, True Temper, UST Mamiya, and Veylix Now onto my experience. In December 2016, True Spec was running a holiday special discount: $100 off a full bag fitting (except for putter). Fortunately, my girlfriend is kind enough to support my addition and was kind enough to gift me my first custom fitting. But before I decided to get fit, I wanted to play a decent amount of the 2017 season to provide a quality “baseline” comparison between my current off-the-shelf clubs and properly fit clubs. Old Clubs and “Normal” Distance (based on data from 14 rounds with Arccos): TaylorMade R11S 9* (Stiff Flex) – 275 Yds TaylorMade Burner Fairway 3 Wood 15* (Regular Flex) – 235 Yds TaylorMade Burner Superfast 2.0 3 Hybrid 18* (Regular Flex) – 185 Yds Callaway X-22 Irons (4 to AW) – 170 Yds (6 Iron) Bombtech 56* – 90 Yds Cleveland 60* – 70 Yds Scotty Futura X5 In mid-July, I called True Spec up and scheduled my full bag fitting over two mornings from 9 AM to 11 AM; Day 1 for Irons and Wedges, Day 2 for Woods. After taking the subway from downtown NYC to Penn Station, I walked over and quickly knew I was in the right place. True Spec's NYC location is housed inside Golf & Body NYC. While an entire post can be made about Golf & Body, it's easier to just say that it's essentially an “indoor country club” equipped with Trackman simulators, a huge putting green, and a full-blown gym. On Day 1, I worked with True Spec fitter Tyler. We started the fitting by having me warm up while Tyler took some fundamental data on my irons and wedges (e.g., loft, lie angle, shaft flex). Once I was warm, Tyler explained that True Spec collects data using the Foresight Sports GCQuad launch monitor and the iron fitting will be based off 6 iron data. In addition, he wanted to see if I had any questions, club preferences, or goals in mind before we collected our first data point. I explained that I never been fit, currently am a 12 handicap, and would prefer a forged, players iron (presuming my ball striking and club speed would allow). Tyler reassured me he'd do everything he can to put the best club in my hands, and that we could now start taking some baseline data with my 6 iron. After a couple shots, we eliminated the mishits and averaged: 121 MPH Ball Speed ~19* Launch Angle ~6300 RPMs 170 Yds (Carry) 180 Yds (Total) 107 Ft. Peak Heigh To keep it short, Tyler and I spent the next 2 hours trying 10 different irons with nearly as many different shafts. Between the data and personal preference, we narrowed it down to the following top performers (with their average data): Srixon Z 565s with KBS C-Taper Parallel Tip Shafts (Stiff); 125 MPH Ball Speed, ~18* Launch Angle, ~5600 RPMs, 180 Yds (Carry), 190 Yds (Total) TaylorMade P770 with Project X LZ 6.0; 123 MPH Ball Speed, ~20* Launch Angle, ~5700 RPMs, 176 Yds (Carry), 185 Yds (Total) Titleist AP2s with KBS C-Taper Parallel Tip Shafts (Stiff); 121 MPH Ball Speed, ~18* Launch Angle, ~6300 RPMs, 175 Yds (Carry), 185 Yds (Total) Fortunately, I didn't have to make any decisions on the spot, so we then started the wedge fitting. Unfortunately, I don't have any baseline data, but after about an hour we decided that the combination I got the best feel and performance from was Vokey SM6s in 56* (with 14* bounce) and 60* (with 10* bounce), paired with the KBS 610 Wedge Shaft (Stiff). In addition to being really pleased with how the entire experience was going, Tyler was kind enough to email me with all the GC Quad data we collected throughout the fitting about an hour after we finished. On Day 2, I was teamed up with Doug and, as many great things I could say about Tyler, he was incredible. After receiving my Day 1 results, I naturally I hopped on the forums and started to read reviews. As a result, I had lots of questions for Doug before we even started. Doug was very patient and answered every question I had and, after addressing my anxiety, asked if there were any clubs I wanted to hit that I might have missed out on. As eager as I was to try a few more irons, we agreed that it was best to start hitting some woods while I was fresh. Similar to Day 1, Doug asked me to start warming up with my driver so we could get some baseline data: 148 MPH Ball Speed 110 MPH Club Speed ~12* Launch Angle ~3300 RPMs 250 Yds (Carry) 270 Yds (Total) ~39* Descent Angle From there, we quickly jumped into hitting some top-notch heads (Taylormade M1 and M2, Callaway Epic and Epic Sub Zero, Ping G400, and Titleist 917 D3) and shafts (Fujikura Pro XLR8, Mitsubishi C6 Blue and TENSEI CK, Aldila Tour Blue and Rogue Black, etc.). It was immediately apparent that we needed to find a combination that would help get my spin down. After about an hour of mixing and matching, the Callaway Epic Sub Zero 9.0* with UST Mamiya Elements Platinum shaft stood head and shoulders above everything (152 MPH Ball Speed, ~10* Launch Angle, ~2600 RPMs, 265 Yds Carry, 288 Total). We then turned to 3 Woods. Baseline data with my TM Burner: 143 MPH Ball Speed 106 MPH Club Speed ~11* Launch Angle ~3900 RPMs 220 Yds (Carry) 235 Yds (Total) ~26* Descent Angle Ironically, we ultimately ended up with the first combination Doug put in my hands, but only after we verified it with a similar sampling of head and shaft combinations. TaylorMade M2 3 Wood 16.5* (High Launch) with Graphite Design Tour AD (152 MPH Ball Speed, 107 MPH Club Speed, ~11* Launch Angle, ~3300 RPMs, 236 Yds Carry, 255 Total). Finally, replacing my Hybrid. Full disclosure, I hate my Hybrid. 99% of the shots end with a cursing, thoughts of club throwing, and a frustrating pull hook. I came into my fitting with the hopes that if my club speed was high enough, that I could be fitted for a Driving Iron or carry a 3 Iron. Unfortunately, Doug informed me that True Spec currently does not fit for Dis, but Doug was able to convince me that I should some 5 Woods and properly fit Hybrids a chance before dismissing them altogether. After spending an hour trying a few Hybrid and 5 Wood combinations, I (ironically) found out that TaylorMade M2 5 Wood 18* also with Graphite Design Tour AD (144 MPH Ball Speed, 105 MPH Club Speed, ~12* Launch Angle, ~4100 RPMs, 219 Yds Carry, 234 Total) would outperform a 3 iron. NOW after spending the past three and half hours dialing in my new woods, Doug reminded me that the offer to hit some extra irons stood as long as I had the energy. I was all for it and while taking a brief water break, Doug asked if I had any specific concerns about how yesterday went. I explained that as much as I loved how the Srixon Z 565s performed, I really wanted a forged iron that would demand me to play better golf while simultaneously not leading me to quit golfing. I then asked Doug if I could hit the Miura CB 1008s, the Titleist AP2s (again), Mizuno JPX Tours, and the Srixon Z 765s. Also, just to check my ego, I asked to hit the Miura Tournament Blades MB001s. As much as I wished I could play the MBs, I knew that I currently don't have the skill to enjoy them. Fortunately, the extra time was not wasted. In fact, Doug and I were able to determine that I could hit the Z 765, and that it was up to me to either: (1) go with a quality combination set (Srixon Z 565s for 4 through 6 irons and Srixon Z 765s for 7 through Gap Wedge); or (2) go with a full bag of Z 565s or 765s. Once again, there was no pressure to make a decision on the spot and after a couple of days, I decided to go with a full bag of the Z 765s. But before ending Day 2, Doug took the time to walk me through all the custom accessories and options. After trying and talking about every possibility, I decided on customizing the Callaway Epic SZ with White Rails, Crown and Sole, along with White NO1 50 Series grips on all my woods. The Srixons would just get Black NO1 50 Pro Series grips. And as for my Vokey SM6 wedges, I opted for the Raw Black Finish also with Black NO1 50 Pro Series grips, finished off with some custom Wedge Stamping and White Paintfill. To wrap things up, True Spec delivered on everything I expected and could've wanted from a custom fitting. I genuinely appreciate the time Tyler and Doug spent with me to ensure that I will be ordering a set of clubs that will perform and I look forward to playing with. Furthermore, True Spec is available to golfers all across the world. As a result, I would highly recommend that anyone who is looking to be fit for clubs to, at a minimum, consider True Spec Golf. I know that before I decided to get fit, I decided to meet with two reputable NYC-private fitters and two competing national club fitters. Despite the time I spent speaking with and building a rapport with these other fitters, True Spec stood out and exceeded all expectations.
  8. So, I've never been fit for clubs in my life. The clubs I have now I bought roughly 7 years ago and I pieced the set together based almost wholly on looks, company reputation, my OCD tendencies (hence the same brand throughout) and if I'm being honest, something less popular. (I can be weirdly contrarian like that). That said, I like my clubs well enough, but I'm not certain if they're truly appropriate for me. So, when I say "fitting" what I really mean is current club evaluation and length/lie & shaft recommendations and adjustments to my current clubs. I'm not opposed to, for instance, picking up a new driver, but it will only be used and a year or two old (think $200 range). From what I can tell, most of the places around me have certain manufacturers they're looking to sell and, while they advertise evaluation of current equipment, almost all of them eventually mention finding "the best equipment for" me, not necessarily tweaking what I've got to "fit" me. GolfTec is nearby, a handful of mom & pop shops, and a few golf course academies. So what do you suggest? I plan to go chat with a couple places this weekend, but any of you in this boat, or have been in the past? Now, with that said, the second part of this question moves into which club I should have fit first. My putter is good to go, no need to have it fit. So, really, it comes down to irons or driver as far as which to fit first. I see the pros and cons of either being first, but wondered if you all have a suggestion. Thanks for your time, Chappy
  9. I'm a college player in the southern part of Connecticut. When I'm in school in the midwest, we work with Miles of Golf in Ann Arbor, MI to get fittings. I want to find a place where I can hit several driver shafts without having to pay $125 for a fitting. (College-Friendly fitting places) Any suggestions on locations? (Willing to drive into NYC / Hartford Areas)
  10. I am about to purchase an EVNROLL ER2 putter. The problem is I don't live anywhere close enough to actually try one and get fitted for one. I am basically doing a fitting through text and email with the rep at EVNROLL. I currently use a Ping Scottsdale TR Anser 2 B 35". I am 5'9 and The rep has seen the attached videos. I am hoping that someone here will be able to either verify what he is saying or help me get a good length and lie putter. See the videos below. Please help me!! P.S. He says I need a 33" putter and 2 degrees flat.
  11. I golfed with a gentleman today who claimed that golf shafts "wear out" and need to be replaced every 4 years (assuming 50 rounds per year). Can anyone (equipment junkies, club builders, club fitters, etc.) please chime in with your thoughts on this? Is this a valid claim?
  12. Modern Golf - Part One One of my favorite things to do at various stages of my life has been to just sit back, relax and reflect on where life has taken me. It's an interesting idea. We are so focused on living our lives looking forward, planning the next move, or in the simplest context simply focusing on the here and now. But when we stop, reflect and truly look at ourselves for who we are, there are some questions you ask yourself. Such as: What makes me who I am? Here's how this applies. A huge part of who I am is built around this sport, and really, this site. I found my career on the golf course. I've been a part of MyGolfSpy both as a member, reader and follower for so long that the mindset has literally burrowed into me. I live my life #datacritic. Naturally my bucket list is inspired by this place, all of the things I've seen, read, thought about, tried and so on. The amount of influence this site and the people here have had on my life can't be overstated. Let's think about this in broader terms. I have a figurative roadmap for how to live my life that's at least 50% golf related. Most of that is from you guys and I won't get that time back. Talk about an effect. If we don't stop and reflect every once in awhile we will never put the proper value on the things we love. This experience is a perfect example of that. Modern Golf never happens without MyGolfSpy and specifically GolfSpy MBP. I've kept you all waiting long enough. Here's the story... Inspired by MyGolfSpy. I've had fittings before. I've had fittings at Golf Galaxy in Pittsburgh, more at Blair County Golf in Hollidaysburg, I've done Hoganfit, had wedge fittings, putter fittings, driver fittings... A lot of fittings. Some better than others, and yet every one of them has left a taste in my mouth, more of a question, can this be done better? See, I want a fitting to be like a science experiment. I need something that will eliminate any and all doubt from my mind. There should be variables, controls, and... data! I want the data to backup my decision and to let me decide what I prefer the look and feel of. As much as I loved my Hogan's I was never professionally fit for them. I used their program, liked them, gamed them for a year and was really a brand ambassador for them. But it was never perfect. I still couldn't shake this idea. There had to be something more... More precise than what I've experienced in the past.This is where Modern Golf comes in. The story goes like this. Years ago while browsing the forum I came across a thread. The place it focused on… Just looked like a mecca. I've dreamed, wished, planned and killed probably over 1,000 plans for visiting. It's always been about the money. Plus, it's in Canada. I didn't have a passport and really felt that going international for a set of clubs was a little… ridiculous? Nonetheless, Modern Golf hit my bucket list. This year Becca and I celebrated five years together and we wanted to do something special. Her and I enjoy golfing together very much and this was a wonderful opportunity to cross something off the bucket list. After a few days of planning, it was official, Modern Golf was booked. Fast forward three months and here we are. After travelling all morning Friday and enjoying the beautiful Piper's Heath Golf Club in the evening, I'm sitting in the parking lot of Modern Golf Saturday morning ten minutes before they open. After talking for a few minutes and a few deep breaths it's time for business. Here we go. Modern Golf has a process for their customers. Not only are they appointment only to create a more personal experience, they treat you like part of their family as soon as you walk through the door. It started with meeting Jessica at the front desk. Smiling and welcoming us to the store, she walks us back to meet the crew. Justin (my fitter), Mikey (club builder) and John (Becca's fitter) are all getting their morning started and happily introduce themselves to us. As we all start to talk, Justin gets to work with step one of the process. Modern Golf has broken the experience down into four key segments. They go as follows: the Blueprint, the Fitting, the Prescription and Fulfillment. The key to each of these is that they are executed with laser-like precision. Every detail is monitored, weighed and calculated. They're chasing something I've been looking for in a fitting for years... Perfection. The Blueprint Here's the idea. In order to accurately diagnose your needs they have to first see what you're working with coming through the door. The typical interview process with a fitting largely takes place here. What's beautiful is that it's done in such an unassuming and laid back manner, you're never on guard or over-analyze a response. It's all real and in a comfortable setting. One by one each club is measured, all digitally of course. Length, lie, loft, frequency, swing weight, grip size, etc. Each one is measured and entered into a spreadsheet. Justin makes some really interesting discoveries. My driver? It's a 9.5 degree head turned down to 8.6. It was digitally lofted at 10.5 degrees. My irons not only were inconsistent in length, the swingweight moved 3-4 points from club to club. Walking into this building I've always fought inconsistency and the huge variance in my specs went a long way in explaining why very early on. Having been there for less than an hour, I've already made some huge discoveries. He's done with the bag at this point, so we're ready for step two. The Fitting This one is pretty self explanatory, at least the theory. The practice is a whole lot different than what I'm used to as you're about to find out. Justin hands me my 30 degree Hogan and asks me to warm up. This is the closest to a 6 iron that I have in my set and he wants to establish a baseline to fit from. Needless to say, I shanked quite a few golf balls. Imagine a nervous golfer, low on confidence, trying to perform in a place they've dreamed about for years! Thirty minutes into my fitting, I'm still hitting the ball terribly. Justin never gets frustrated and every so often leaves the room to grab some clubheads/shafts for my fitting. Eventually, after a number of terrible shots in a row, he asks for my club and excuses himself. He comes back in with a roll of lead tape and puts four pieces on the bottom of the club. He hands it back to me and wow… What an immediate difference! Suddenly I could find the club face! My strike improved, I focused, put ten good swings on the ball and got my confidence back! Now we're in business. Justin stops me and explains exactly where we stand. He points out that the C-Taper is basically the exact opposite shaft of what I need. I was stunned. I love the C-Taper, it felt so good to me! I was a little confused, but open minded. Let's stop and walk through this together. Right now is where the fitter becomes key. My numbers were showing a massively left club path with an open face at impact. To the untrained eye someone would assume that's an over the top action that causes my ball flight. Here's what Justin explained to me: From the kick point of the C-Taper being so high in the handle, the only way for me to get the face on the ball, at the target, and deliver that on a consistent basis is to pull the shaft completely across my body. In other words, way left. On the other hand, with something where the kick point is at the tip of the shaft it would allow my body to have a more natural release and thus a straighter club path. This should equal more distance and a more consistent strike. I need to take a step back and explain one of the keys that Justin and I spoke about. When I first walked into the bay he explained to me that he can see all of the connections to be made from the ball data. What he can't know from the data is how something feels or how it looks to me. He explains that this is just as important as the data on the screen. We as golfers are fickle people and we have to have complete and total confidence in what we are gaming. This was crucial for me to keep in mind during my experience. At no point was this a launch monitor data session. He used the data as leverage to make a point and a decision. My only job was to express my thoughts of the club put into my hands. That is an incredibly freeing idea because chasing numbers can be quite easy to do. Back to the story. At this point, I'm warmed up and ready to test some irons. He grabs multiple heads from companies such as Epon, Titleist, Callaway, PXG, Ping, Taylormade and so on. I have to give a disclaimer here. While I was trying to be open minded going into this fitting, I was secretly hoping to walk out with PXG. I just love the brand. Basically the fitting works like this. Justin hands me a head and shaft combo, he asks me some questions such as How does it look? How does it feel? and so on as I'm hitting balls. If I don't like something he says good enough and immediately moves to the next thing. What's amazing about the process is that everything is interchangeable. There are virtually no limitations. The system that they've developed is so well thought out that the weight and frequency of the exact shaft that you're hitting is measured. Once you decide on a combination, those measurements are used to build the set. Throughout the course of the fitting I hit a few different heads and finally Justin tells me his goal. I need to get my ball speed to at least 100 MPH. If he can get me there, he's feeling good about our direction. After demoing a few heads he decides it's time to try the Apex CF16. First swing? 100 MPH Ball Speed. Second swing? 105 MPH ball speed. Now we're getting somewhere! Have you guys noticed my distinct lack of shaft talk? Here's why. We're demoing graphite shafts this entire time! As soon as I'm warmed up, the first question he asks is “how open minded are you willing to be?” and begins to talk about the five graphite shafts he has hanging on the wall behind him. We spent a solid amount of time just discussing what he was about to put in my hands. Here was his take, and this left a very strong impression on me: Graphite isn't just for seniors or people suffering from arthritis. Justin was adamant that the properties these shafts open up to manufacturers are extremely valuable to all golfers. His statement was that within the next five years or less, he expects to see more and more players making the move to graphite. That's a strong statement. Traditionally speaking the issue with graphite shafts is the inability for the fitter/build shop to get the swing weight where it needs to be. That's a thing of the past with the new type of shafts coming to market and these issues are disappearing. Think about 20 years ago when drivers were all steel shafted. Does anyone see a wood out there without a graphite shaft anymore? Didn't think so. The same change is on the horizon for irons. Honestly, I don't remember all of the shaft options that we tried. I know I tried Accra, Fujikura and Nippon. What felt amazing right from the start were the Fujikura MCI 80G Stiff shafts. We went from head to head and changed shafts out, but time and time again contact was much more consistent with this shaft. This part was quick and easy. Now that we have the shaft settled, it's time for the head. At this point I'm seeing by far the best performance from the Apex but we still haven't hit the PXG. I mention that to Justin and we swap heads to test it out. He said something pretty interesting to me about PXG. They don't work for all golfers, but the golfers they do work for get stupid good numbers from them. He's extremely impressed with their launch conditions, distance and general ball flight tendencies. This is before my first swing. Off we go, it's PXG time. The feel of these things are just…Incredible. It's unlike any iron I've ever felt before. Imagine a centered strike out of a butter soft blade and extrapolate that feeling over the entire face. You're getting close to PXG. They're not quite that good off the face, but they're close. Feel is only one element, however. I need good looks, great feel and more than anything distance. Here's what's interesting. Ball speed? 90-95 MPH. I wanted to love these. I hit double the shots with this head than anything else. Eventually I couldn't make my mind up so Justin suggest we take a break and come back to them later. I'll hit the Apex and PXG side by side with the Fujikura MCI and get things finalized. Justin did give me his professional opinion though, he would go Apex simply for the ball speed. I need distance over anything else and to walk away from ten yards is hard to do. Fast forward three hours and I'm back in the bay with these irons in my hands. I hit about 10 balls each to verify the data and it's exactly the same. Ten yards in favor of the Apex. I can't walk away from that. We're in a groove now. I have my confidence back my swing is clicking and I'm hitting the ball well. We start the driver fitting with my Ping G30 LS Tec. My experience with this driver is pretty hit and miss. I love the forgiveness it offers and I very rarely miss a fairway with this driver, but it just lacks so much distance from the spin and launch conditions it generates. We go through an interesting series of events over the next 30-45 minutes. I'm hitting the ball well, it feels great off the face, my swing feels good, I really feel great at this point! Justin on the other hand isn't so comfortable with how I'm hitting the ball. Here's the issue. Most of my numbers are good, I hit up on the ball, I have a mostly neutral path/club face, my spin is decent (it could come down though, but it's not a killer) I was just hitting the ball way too high! 20-23 degrees of launch with a height of around 120 feet is just not cutting it. Justin informs me that the average tour pro hits the driver around 90 feet high. Needless to say we have some work to do. He grabs a whole slew of heads and shafts for me to demo. There's Callaway, Taylormade, Ping, etc. and basically every shaft manufacturer and model you can think of. One by one he builds the clubs, we change settings, play with loft, shaft profiles, anything he could think of I tried. All of these changes are in the pursuit of getting my launch down. We're hunting for 17 degrees. After some time making club changes he decides to give me a drill to help with my launch. Here's how it works: I take my setup, lift the club, close the face about thirty degrees, and then tilt my upper body back to make the club appear square. Next, I swing out and to the right as far as I can and just commit to releasing the club through the ball. I get into position, tee a ball up and take a swing. Suddenly Justin bursts out laughing. He tells me to do the same exact thing again. I do, and he's laughing again. He's getting excited. My launch drops, spin comes down, angle of attack stays the same and we are in business. Now we can dial this in! Finally we narrow the shaft options down. We're between two at this point. The HZRDUS Red and Yellow. It's at about this point that we are still searching for more. My launch has come down but it still isn't exactly where we want it. Justin asks to hold on and runs out of the bay. He comes back in, assembles a new driver and asks me to give it a swing. First swing? 17 degrees. Ten drives later, with the numbers staying rock solid I'm sold. The head? Titleist 915 D3 in 7.5 degrees of loft. The shaft? HZRDOUS Yellow. This thing is a beast! During my test of the 915, Justin informs me that he recently was able to demo the Titleist 917D3. He had nothing but extremely glowing reviews on it. He recommends I go with that head. At this point I have a level of trust built in him that I take his advice. The 917D3 is the way I go. After a quick break for lunch we get back together to finish the fitting. We're going to focus on the gaps between my five iron and driver. I have to say that going into this fitting this area of my bag was easily my weakest. The long game is where I play like a high handicap. If we can get a consistent yardage from this part of my bag I really could improve my game. I've never had someone take the time and really work through the head, shaft, length and feel options at the top of the bag the same way they would a driver or a set of irons. What I loved about Justin's approach is that we weren't looking for the longest club. It was about hitting a number. That's it. That may sound very basic but a true gap analysis in a fitting is a very uncommon experience (at least for me). We start with hitting my current clubs. I hit my SLDR 3 wood and put three of my best swings of the day on it. Immediately Justin's eyes light up as he sees an opportunity. He grabs the XR16, Ping G and Titleist for me to demo. We also have a range of shaft options here just like the driver. We're looking for a number. 215. That's the number. I hit all of the woods and shaft combos and nothing comes close to the XR16 with the HZRDOUS Red shaft in it. The best part is I'm hitting my number on the nose and it's consistent. We move immediately into the next gap. 190 yards is the number here. At first Justin grabs all different hybrid heads and shaft options for me to try. I line up, start to swing and I'm just getting nothing out of these. Time and again, the hybrids aren't going even as far as my 6 iron! My strikes weren't terrible, there is just something about my swing and hybrids that don't work. So Justin has an idea. He grabs a 5 wood head and we start with the XR and HZRDOUS Red again since it worked so well for me in the 3 wood. A few swings later and we have our number and the club! There was something around a fifty yard gap difference between a hybrid and wood for me. This really demonstrated why we need to try all of the options, walking in the door I would have assumed a hybrid fills this slot. We only have a few short steps left until we're done. Justin and I have a conversation about wedges and he tells me what I've known all along. These clubs are a confidence decision more than anything else. My Edel wedges that I have now are some of the best clubs I own. His only option to get me something new would be to literally recreate these from a Miura blank… No thanks. Now THAT would be expensive! We did have a conversation about the shafts however, and I need to lengthen them. He loves the Nippon Modus Pro 115 shafts and games them in his wedges. That's the direction I go. The last phase of my fitting is the Quintic Ball Roll system. This system was pretty cool. It's elevated about four feet off the ground and the surface is completely level. It's roughly twenty feet long and has a control center for the fitter to use. To the right of the golfer there's a screen and multiple very bright LED lights illuminating the ground. I'm invited up and walked through how it works. According to Justin, this is like SAM putt lab just with absolute values. The difference is this system provides accurate and precise data instead of ranges. He considers this to be the most high end putter fitting system available on the market. The goal is to simply putt the ball from its alignment and into the hole on the other side. Justin has to take special care to line the ball up perfectly and invites me to take a stroke. I step up, hit the ball, and he starts laughing. He says “I would get fittings like these!” and steps onto the platform to explain the numbers. On the right of the screen there are three readings and on the left there are two. On the right you want the data to give a green light out of possible red, yellow or green (it gives data as well, the color symbolizes the data) and on the left you want green and yellow. My first stroke the numbers come out perfect. Justin looks at me and says “if you give me 3-4 more putts with the same exact readings I'm telling you to keep that putter and never worry about changing it.” Four putts later I walk off the platform hitting all five putts perfect. Edel hits it out of the park again and he recommends no changes. The Prescription The Driver: Titleist 917 D3 8.5 with HZRDOUS Yellow at 7.75 degrees of loft with Black MicroPerf Best Grips. The Woods: Callaway XR16 3W & 5W with HZRDOUS Red shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips. The Irons: Callaway Apex CF16 5-PW with Fujikura MCI 80G Stiff Shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips. The Wedges: Edel Wedges in 50, 55, 60 and Driver/Digger bounce configuration. Nippon Modus Pro 115 Special Edition shafts with Black MicroPerf Best Grips. The Putter: Edel Williamette with S2 Hosel, 32” length and “Chef's Choice” design. Fulfillment I'm going to let these speak for themselves… P. S. I know some of the pictures are sideways... Sorry about that. Couldn't get them straight.
  13. How have you gone about choosing the grinds on your wedges? Have you been fitted? How did they determine the grind for you based on your fitting? Have you just done trial and error? When it comes to wedges they may be the most important clubs in your bag next to your putter for cutting strokes and lowering your handicap. So in looking to pick up another wedge set I am wondering how to go about picking grinds? Is it possible to figure this out without hitting the shots you would on the course?
  14. 5 Question with GolfTEC Vice President of Instruction and Education and Master PGA Professional Andy Hilts For the past 20 years, GolfTEC has been training and educating golfers globally from Denver to Tokyo. Our very own Mr. Theoo is a GolfTEC student and the progression his game over the last year is a testament to what GolfTEC strives to accomplish with it's players. It's very exciting to have the opportunity to do a 5 questions with GolfTEC Vice President of Instruction and Education and Master PGA Professional, Andy Hills, to learn a little more of what's made GolfTEC the success it is over the past 20 years. How is GolfTEC different from taking lessons from a pro at the club or range? What is your teaching philosophy? GolfTEC differs from a typical golf lesson in several key ways. First, we don't just observe a swing, form an opinion and immediately try to “fix” it. We begin with a thorough analysis of a student's swing, using technology to measure the critical body positions in the swing. Combining video with the motion measurement data, the student can clearly see the current state of their swing. By then comparing the key metrics (Shoulder Turn or Hip Turn, for example) to an acceptable range-of-motion based on tour averages, we have a fact-based foundation for measurable improvement. To pursue our mission to help people play better golf, we believe in a comprehensive approach to game improvement. Because of the many factors involved in both the swing and the results, we don't believe in a “quick fix” or encourage one-off lessons. We prefer to create a thorough GolfTEC Game Plan, incorporating all aspects of improvement, from in-bay to on-course lessons, to build more lasting results. GolfTEC and our Certified Personal Coaches deliver on a proven system of game improvement, developed over millions of lessons with hundreds of thousands of students of every level. As noted, it starts with a fact-based diagnosis. It includes a series of sequential lessons with your own personal, highly experienced coach. It incorporates video-based practice sessions and includes fitting for precision-matched clubs. By consistently utilizing all these factors, throughout the course of a complete Game Plan, we have achieved a 96% success rate. Can a player be fit for equipment at any time in their development or does their swing need to hit key points before you can? We believe every golfer should always have properly fitted equipment to maximize their game. That is why we include a TECfit club fitting as part of every GolfTEC Game Plan. The wrong clubs can have their own impact on a swing. So while swings will evolve, the enjoyment, confidence and fit of new clubs will always have a beneficial impact. Where did GolfTEC get its beginnings? What niche do you see filling? What does the TEC in GolfTEC stand for? GolfTEC was originated in 1995 by Clayton Cole, then the Director of Golf at Cherry Hills Country Club in Denver, Colorado. Cole was among the first to recognize the opportunity to enhance golf instruction by using the capabilities for capturing data that the era's computers could provide. In that year, he hired Joe Assell as his first teaching professional and manager of the company he called Driving Obsession. Joe helped implement the technology and opened the first indoor location in Denver. In 1996 a second location was opened in Chicago, and in 1997 it was renamed GolfTEC. By 2002, GolfTEC had nine locations and a patent for its g-SWING technology. By 2004 GolfTEC had 22 total locations and hired its 100th coach. Three years later it opened its 100th location and had given its 1 millionth lesson. In 2010 GolfTEC opened in Canada and was named to the Inc 500 list of Fastest-Growing Private Companies. In 2012 it opened locations in Japan and Korea. Today GolfTEC has given over 5 million lessons and has grown to almost 200 centers in four countries with over 600 Certified Personal Coaches. Our mission is to help people play better golf. Our niche is one of dependable, high quality instruction, with highly trained coaches consistent in their approach and results wherever you take a GolfTEC lesson. GolfTEC is also unique in that our Improvement Centers are located near business centers rather than golf course locations. By making it convenient for our students to enjoy regular lessons and practice, we see greater improvement. The T-E-C in GolfTEC stand for Technique, Equipment and Conditioning. At GolfTEC we believe if you have fundamentally sound TECHNIQUE, properly fit EQUIPMENT and are in good physical and mental CONDITION you will play your best golf. GolfTEC CEO Joe Assell What should every golfer know before starting lessons? We think it is vitally important to find the right coach for you. He or she should understand and be committed to your goals. Have coaching credibility and a history of success. Be able to communicate effectively in a way that YOU understand. (We all have different learning styles) Have access to the technology and training aids that can accelerate your improvement. And have an enthusiasm for every aspect of the game, not just swing mechanics, so you don't just get better, but have a great experience doing it. And remember, to achieve the results you desire requires a certain level of commitment from you, too. It can be fun and very exciting, but there is no easy, quick fix. Could you fix Tiger's game? We're not sure if we can help Tiger or not, but we HAVE helped thousands of golfers of every level to play better and enjoy the game more. Feel free to give Tiger our number. ------------------------------------- Once again thank you to Andy Hilts, Vice President of Instruction and Education and Master PGA Professional for his time.
  15. I would like to ask you to take time out to answer a few questions for research purposes. 1, What putter do you use and why? 2, What are the specs of your putter? 3, How long have you been using the current putter in your bag? 4, Do you commit to a specific method? 5, How do you rate your putting performance on a scale of 1 to 10? I look forward to your responses
  16. Hi Everyone, I am a Professional based in Holland and have a company called Burley Golf Development. My work involves developing Coaching, Fitting & Equipment and I am interested in feedback and keeping up to date with new developments within the world of putting. Glad to be involved and I look forward to some interesting discussions! Stuart Burley
  17. So I received a free club fitting for Christmas. Very excited about it! The fitting is at a country club and they sell a specific brand of clubs, so the fitting will no doubt be aimed at those clubs. The pro is also a licensed fitter for that brand. My question is ...it is reasonable to assume that can I take those specs (loft, lie, shafts, etc) and apply it towards a different brand if I decide not to go with the brand that the CC deals with, right?
  18. Hi guys, I am looking for your expertise here. I am a long time golfer who just got back into the game a year ago. I have been practicing for the last year and have got my handicap down to a 19. I decided for Father's Day that I wanted a new driver so that is what I did last Saturday. I went to my local big box store, Golfsmith, and got “fitted” for a new driver. The fitter had me hit the Callaway X2 Hot 9º, Taylormade SLDR 10.5º, Cobra Bio Cell 9.5º, and the Ping G25 9.5º. I honestly enjoyed hitting all of them and for me, didn't hit any of them bad. The fitter used the launch monitor to check launch angle, club/ball speed, and spin to make sure I had the correct shaft and loft. Spin numbers were close to the same on all of them and I was surprised the SLDR spin numbers weren't lower than the other clubs. I carried the X2 Hot the furthest and since none of them really stood out I went with the X2 for the low price. Mind you I haven't opened/used the club because I may return it based on what is said here. My question is since I am a high handicapper is it not necessary for a more comprehensive fitting then what I received? I read articles on here where guys are being fitted with different shafts, lofts…to achieve the numbers the fitter is after. I just didn't feel like this guy did that. It was more like "let's find you a club you will buy today.” I want to make sure I get the best club for my money. Any advice you guys can give me would be great. Thanks.
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