juspoole 3,450
Final Review
After a little over a month of testing, I feel confident that I have put these irons through a full run through. With 7 rounds and a lot of range sessions, I played as much as I could throughout the process to give you all the best feedback. These irons were fantastic and a joy to hit. Crisp feel with dynamite looks in a forgiving player’s package. I would give this 4.5 Stars if I could.
I’ll apologize now for how often I bring up my Mizunos during the test, but I felt they were a terrific comparison to the type of irons these are. I did a bit of a hybrid with the new and old scoring system in an effort to be more thorough.
Reminder of my set make up (similar to @chiefmikeofficer)
T200 Utility Build (Graphite Design AD IZ 85X)
T100 – S 5 – GW (KBS Tour 130 X)
Looks (5/5)
Describe the following:
Coloring / Graphics
· Subtle looks, but eye popping. I do not remember having this many people come up to my bag and take a look at my irons. The finish does not scream out “look at me” but there is something about them, which draws attention.
· They really do remind me of the AP2’s of old, you can still see that DNA in there. Also, as you saw the shape and size is very close to the split cavity Mizuno irons.
· Shape is exactly what I would look for, the top line is great and it flows so well overall. During a few of my side by side experiments, the Mizuno irons looked clunky and nowhere near as pleasing as the T100-S.
· I know it shouldn’t matter as long as you are playing the best equipment for your game, but as with the Mizuno’s, with Titleist, you are proud to answer the question “what irons do you play?”. Take that for what it’s worth, but they definitely make an impression when you see them in the bag that you are a good player. Performance on the course is up to you, but you will certainly look the part. I had more glances and people ask about these irons than anything else I’ve played. It’s just surprising because they are definitely not flashy.
I wanted to add a few more recent photos so that you could see how they look after a bit of use and the wear patterns thus far. Obviously only has been a short time
Feel (4/5
Describe how the iron sounds and feels
How is the weight? Balance? Can you feel the clubhead in your swing?
- I feel a bit more weight in the club head in the Titleist than I do with the Mizunos. I prefer this feeling overall, but with it being a change, there are still some adjustments to be made. I can actually take a smoother swing and have the feeling that the club is doing the work.
Feel off the face
· The million dollar question when it comes to a forged iron. I can tell you, I do get the feedback that I’m looking for as to whether I’ve made a good strike or not. That is certainly an important aspect. However, the feel is a bit “dead” when I compare to Mizuno. To give another reference, they feel extremely similar to the latest Callaway X Forged CB irons and Srixon ZX7 if anyone has tried out those. The T200 4 iron is a rocket launcher with a bit of a hollow feel but not awful. A bit better than the Srixon ZX for feedback.
Forgiveness (5/5)
· Very good. I think one reason that my scores have been very solid with these irons is that I am flying the ball to my yardage almost every time on mishits. I can swing confidently even though the topline and looks are a players shape. Honestly, a 15 handicap could play these with ease in my opinion if you want more feel. The T200 definitely does provide more in this category, but it really just depends what you are looking for. Do you want even more added distance and more forgiveness with a larger profile, or do you want just a tiny bit less of both, but added feel and a players shape? You’ll have to decide on that one.
Distance (5/5)
- Nearly a club longer! A little bit less than that on the shorter clubs, but on 8 iron down to 5 iron, I’ve noticed the difference. The T200 can hit some bombs. I know the averages were only about a club longer with this one, but if I had to had one 250, I feel like I could do it with this 4 iron. Just crazy long.
- Ball Speed definitely has increased. I would say by around 4 mph on average with many clubs. Distance mirrors that to around a club longer. Launch angle is a touch higher, but the total height and descent angle are much better numbers. Dispersion however, has gotten a bit worse. Just bringing a few more pulls and draws into the mix when I usually do not have to worry much about that miss. On the flip side, I do not think that I’ve had a fade miss, so I’m still just missing on one side of the course, which is good.
Pressure –
- Tough to answer – I still feel like I’m grooving my swing with these. At this exact moment in time (September 30, 2021) it is probably a toss-up, but just give the slight edge to the mizunos because of accuracy. However, that is changing more and more with each practice session and round with the Titleist.
Trajectory –
- I know I’ve gotten into this, but definitely noticed a higher ball flight. I think this was due to both a less tip stiff shaft as well as all of the tungsten in this club. If you have trouble getting the ball up in the air, I think the T series will assist with that.
Accuracy –
- Still a work in progress. I think a combination of the clubs being a tad more upright and the different shafts are taking a bit of getting used to. I think it will correct itself. It has honestly helped me to feel like a can take a smoother swing and still increase my distance, which I don’t hate. Also, workability is not quite as easy as I find with the Mizunos. Possibly from the extra tungsten? I’m not sure. But I do find it easier with my previous set.
On-Course / LM Performance (4.5 out of 5)
· I would say that I hit a few less greens than normal, but on the flip side, it seemed like when I did groove a nice swing, I was giving myself a 12 foot or less birdie chance more often than I remember this summer. I dropped from 11.8 to 11.2 on average over the last 6 rounds with each. Granted I have been playing well during this time frame, but I had a couple real chances to break par and I cannot say that I’ve had that this summer. I recently played in an annual outing that I’ve been playing in for the past 5 years. I had my best score to date with the T100-S by several strokes and much was because of iron play. Turf interaction was also very good, it seemed to glide through on divots if that makes sense.
Did it help improve your scores? By how much?
· I must admit, part of the scoring coincides with adding a new putter to the bag and getting along well with it. But, my highest score with these irons was a 77. That definitely beats my mizunos, some of that has to do with off the tee performance and not having as many penalty shots lately.
· I played 9 holes with both sets and hit iron off the tee except for the par 5’s. I ended up shooting even par with both. However, I had a birdie and 3 putt bogey with the Titleist and overall would say, I had less club into every green by one or two clubs each time. However, I feel like I control my old clubs slightly better because I hit a slight fade with them rather than a draw. But I’m now to the point where my misses are still catching the green. With the added distance across all of the irons, I still felt confident only hitting 4 iron from the tee. This could help in future rounds and playing smarter and less risky shots off the tee.
· Below are some stats from several irons. Note that Ball Speed is up, as well as carry and angle of descent with each iron. I might shy some low spin players from these, but a shaft could help with that and the height will still help you hold greens.
Overall (4.5/5)
· I think in the grand scheme of things, these irons allow me to play better. More trust is still necessary as I move forward. I have to believe that with a smooth swing, I will still be able to hit the distance that these irons have shown thus far. On the course, I’ll still have the feeling that I need to swing out of my shoes to get my 6 iron 203 or whatever it may be.
· I really enjoyed my previous irons more than anything I’ve had before by a mile. These surpassed several aspects of them because they really are that good. I will miss the feel of my Mizunos to some extent, but it quickly washes away when I see the towering ball flight, great top line and extra distance the Titleist T100-S provide without swinging out of my shoes. As I grow more comfortable with these irons, they will help me play better golf – simple as that.
I have hit some other irons like the ZX7 and the Apex TCB, which did remind me of these. I think there are a lot of good options out there, but these seem to be a cut above with all factors in mind.
Now, if I could tame my driver and have one less hazard per round, I’d be on to something. Oh and a few less 3 putts would be nice, while we’re at it.
Thanks again to MGS and Titleist for choosing me to participate in this test.
First Impressions
Wow are these things clean. The lines are great on them. One of my biggest pet peeves was the large topline on some of my Mizuno irons and these alleviate that. I am in no way a photographer, so please excuse the poor lighting and quality.
Specs if anyone is curious - Not picture below but the 4 iron is a T200 with Graphite Design IZ 85 X flex shaft
Feel
Not quite as buttery soft as my Mizunos. Not harsh by any means, but I don’t get quite as amazing of feel by really flushing one. On the flipside, with a bit of a mishit, feels much better in the hands. No worries in the cold this season for me (well still some worry, but not as bad). Still getting used to them so more on this throughout the test.
Looks
Really like the satin finish of the T100-S, but if I’m honest, I think I prefer the chrome look of the T200 in the 4 iron a bit more. More to come as I see them in the bag on a regular basis. The back has minimal look with a lot of technology packed in behind the scenes. Topline is right where I want it to be. The offset is very minimal and maybe even less so that my mizuno – will have to research that. Also, the transition from shaft to club head is very smooth, the mizuno has a bit of extra meat right there while the Titleist is more flowing.
The Titleist has the blade like look, but does not make me scared in the least at hitting them. You can see the top line of my mizuno 8 iron on the right looks rather bulky compared to the Titliest. I think it gets it just right here on the Titleist. Blade Length may be ever so slightly longer in comparison as well.
Immediate Differences to my current Gamers
Much higher ball flight! The tungsten in these are no joke. The flight is not spinny by any means, but gets through the air easily and stops pretty quickly. Numbers on a trackman only tell you so much, but seeing the ball flight in person, it’s very noticeable how high I’m hitting these. I’m not changing anything else in my swing and it’s just higher. Also, small mishits are forgiven much better than the Mizunos so far and feel better like I said above. I won’t go into this too much here, but have noticed that I’m hitting a bit more of a draw with these compared to the Mizunos. Likely the swing, but planning on taking both out to the course and playing a hole with each to find out.
Below is a straight on shot of the 5 irons of both sets. The hosel looks shorter on the T100-S, but in person is about the same. Honestly, they are very close in shape. The main difference is under the hood and the cavity being larger on the T100-s compared to the smaller split cavity on the Mizuno.
Below is the gap wedge compared to my current vokey SM6 Gap wedge. More of the traditional teardrop shape from the wedge, but the T100-S 48* is more pleasing that I would have imagined. Top lines are pretty close to my eye, but sole is definitely a bit smaller over the Vokey.
Comarison of the Srixon ZX and the T200 4 Iron. No surprise here that the sole width is wider on the ZX. Thus far, I'm finding the T200 4 iron forgiving and easy to get airborne. Maybe not quite as easy to hit as the ZX, but still getting used to the clubs.
Loft Comparison
I could have went with the T100 and been pleased, but knowing where my lofts currently are for my mizuno’s, I thought it’d be an easier transition to go with these. I was right and wrong
The Fitting
I knew about these irons from seeing pictures online on Instagram. I watched the TXG video and a couple other Youtube videos to see initial impressions. I even went to my local shop to take a look at the iron head because I knew I would be interested in trying them out for potential purchase this fall/winter. Fast forward a week and I was chosen for the test!
I’m accustomed now to seeing all of the data from Trackman, so I knew what I was looking for out of my 7-iron demo club. (Off topic, but when did we go to a 7 iron instead of a 6 iron during a fitting? I guess with hybrids these days, a 7-iron is a closer representation of your middle iron in a set, but still am left wondering when that truly happened. ) I tried out 6 different shafts through a few days of testing. As Follows:
KBS Tour X-Stiff
Project X 6.5
Project X 6.0
KBS $ Taper X Stiff
DG Tour X100
DG AMT White X100 (Current Shaft)
I’ve been to enough demo days and fittings that I had a good idea of the iron shaft that would work best. The KBS Tour and the Project X 6.5 were neck and neck. I could have picked either and been good. At first I selected the KBS because it felt less stiff and I didn’t feel like I had to swing 98% every time. I started to find a groove with that shaft and it continued when I went to Project X, but that was a point where I was swinging my best and quickest during the fitting at around 96 mph.
Unfortunately due to shut downs across the world, Titleist had issues sourcing the KBS shafts in time. Thus, I went with my back up and very close second the Project X 6.5’s. A bit more stout with a hair less feel than the KBS but numbers were terrific with this shaft.
******Update, my irons came in with the KBS Tour shafts. I don't know what sorcery someone at Titleist had to pull to grab these, but thank you. They feel incredible.
Also, I went with MCC Midsize grips as it feels best and what I have in most other clubs. I tried the MCC +4 and have had those in my irons since 2017, but they’ve always felt a bit small. Glad we were able to get the grips that would work best. Also the MCC hold up extremely well for me. I usually am getting several years of play with them with no issues.
Next thing I noticed is that I was getting amazing ball speed numbers for my swing. I had a few 7 irons over 130 mph ball speed on trackman. When I was last fitted to my Mizunos – I was in the 125mph range, but that was with a 6 iron. Even with that being said my distances stayed close for standard deviation. Shots that I felt weren’t struck great, were still around 124 for ball speed and flying only about 5 yards short so I could see the forgiveness.
Last thing that was crazy to me was that going in I thought I’d be hitting these fairly low due to the stronger lofts. I’m hoping the trend continues on course, but I was getting average land angles of 51*. To put that in perspective the fitter said anything 45 – 50 is good and PGA is 48 – 50.
Stats from Current Gamers (MP 18 SC)
Initial Post
Thanks for somehow picking my name out of the incredibly large hat that made up the nearly 16,000 entries to this test. THANK YOU TO TITLEIST AND MGS for the opportunity!
I’ve been active on MyGolfSpy since 2017 and this has been an incredible outlet for me to take a deep dive into all golf has to offer. Sometimes I get the eye roll from my buddies for going into some crazy technical speak so it’s nice to be able to share my opinions and thoughts here.
I’m 34 and have been playing golf just over 20 years. I turned to golf initially to spend more time with my grandparents since I’ve always been close to them and my grandpa even shot his age a few years back (84). Growing up, it was always a way to get away from the other sports I was playing competitively and while I wanted to play well – I could get over a bad round more easily than a bad game/match in another sport.
I truly got addicted to golf in college and would get out as often as my limited bank account would allow. I started to improve and went from shooting mid 80’s to shooting high 70’s. My buddies joke that I knew all of the break on the carpet in our college house since I was always putting.
I’ve fluctuated a bit over the years but have managed to stay anywhere from a 3 to a 7 handicap over the past 12 years. My wife and I have been together nearly 10 years and have 3 amazing kids (Alaina 6, Olivia 5, and Lawson 3). I’m trying to play golf with the kids, but they aren’t all that interested yet. Which is ok because we don’t need a ball/club to the shin type situation.
Current Game
This year has had some ups and downs for me physically. I tore my Achilles playing basketball in January but didn’t have surgery until February. I was able to start golfing again about 2 months after surgery but wasn’t completely confident in swinging until May. Luckily, my swing did not suffer that much and have gone from a 5.1 to a 2.7 at one point this summer. Hovering at a 3.5 right now, but can shoot anywhere from a 74 to 84 on a given day. Before switching to work from home permanently, my golf rounds were down to around 15 per year. Now, I’m able to add in more 9-hole rounds over lunch or go to the range to keep the swing loose. I’ve actually only played one golf round over a weekend this year.
Biggest Questions Going into this test -
Can my iron game get noticeably better?
My iron game is probably my biggest strength and I’ve noticed an improvement since I’ve had my Mizunos. There definitely is room for improvement, but will these make that impact? For reference I average 11.8 GIR and would say proximity is 35 feet on average when I do hit the green.
Are Titleist Irons still as good?
My first set of “players irons” were a pre-owned set of the 2010 AP2’s. Made a huge difference for me in terms of GIR and dispersion. Also, I think they helped my ball striking going from a game improvement iron in the Cobra SSI Oversize to the AP2’s.
Do they feel as good as Mizunos?
With having my irons for 4 years now, I can say that nothing has felt like a Mizuno thus far. Like many others on the forum, I always like to try the new stuff that comes out and nothing has contended with my Mizunos for a while. This will be interesting to see if the Titleist can contend.
Is the progressive bounce design noticeable?!
You hear about the importance of bounce with wedges, but I’ve not heard of it in your irons. Stay tuned…
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Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X
2 Hybrid: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*)
3 Hybrid 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*)
4 Iron - T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft
Irons 5-PW: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X
Gap/Sand Wedge: Vokey SM6 49* SM8 54*
Lob Wedge: Jaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff
Putter: Phantom 5.5 34" Pro Platinum Newport 2 35" Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34"
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