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Equipment Type: Putter
Vendor: Edel

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TESTERS WANTED (4) EDEL EAS PUTTERS!

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Edel might not be the first brand you think of when it comes to top-end putters. But the reason isn't due to lack of performance.

In 2020, the revamped EAS 2.0 was one of the highest-ranked putters in Most Wanted testing. Moreover, the EAS line differentiated itself primarily on putts of 10 feet or fewer.

Founder David Edel uses a proprietary fitting system that accounts for the influence of shapes and lines on perceived alignment. For example, did you know that lines in the cavity of a putter tend to shift aim to the left?

Because every golfer is different, Edel believes that the ideal combination and head shape, lines, length, weight, and grip size is unique to every golfer.

With that said, we'd like to get some feedback from MyGolfSpy readers.

**Note: MGS/EDEL will set people up with a personalized fitting with a regional fitter or local Edel account if available - If not, we can do a TeleFit as a last resort.

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Hello fellow spies! First off I would like to thank MyGolfSpy and Edel for allowing me an opportunity to be fit for the first time for any club in my bag and have a chance at improving my putting game.  I have been playing this crazy game we all love and hate sometimes for over 20+ years and play to about a 15 handicap.  I would consider my putting game to be the strong part of my game even though I average about 36 putts a round, so I can't wait to see how getting properly fit will improve my putting statistics.  First impressions of the Edel EAS 4.0 putter I was fit for; I love the overall shape as it is not a overly large head but on the other hand it does not look like a premium putter in my opinion and unsure if some golfers will pay the premium price for it.  I might have to consider a custom paint job once my review is completed 👍.  Now on to the fun part....testing, stay tuned. 

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EDEL E.A.S. #4

The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by

Sluggo42

 

Looks (9 out of 10 points)

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 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 

The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

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The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

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The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

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I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

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It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.

It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)

 

 

Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)

From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.

 

Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)

I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 

My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)

For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 

Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.

 

I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.

 

On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)

This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 

So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 

I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 

And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….

Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 

 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 

This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.

The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 

 

I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period

It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.

What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 

 

1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim

2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly

3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 

I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.

 

Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)

Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

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It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.

Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)

There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 

I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.

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Conclusion

In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.

Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.

Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.

Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.

If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 

 

FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100

This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.

Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The rating system doesn't allow for 1/2 stars so lets say I'm giving this a solid 4.5 stars instead of 4. 

To start this off, I'd like to give an immense thank you to both MGS and Edel for creating this opportunity. The chance for a select few of us to be part of something that not too many people will get to do in their golfing life and that is being fully fit for a custom-built putter. Before coming into this, my experience with putter fitting was limited to the following: you putt with too much toe hang so pick another putter that's more upright. OK now you have an arc in your stroke.. you get a blade. Ok which grip do you like.. ok there's your "putter fitting". 

MY GAME

I've been playing golf for nearly 30 years. for 25 of those I pretty much had no Idea what I was doing. It really wasn't until I stumbled upon the MGS community that I started to really take the game more seriously and actually start to study it. Over the years, I've come to rely on the MGS community for so many golf and non-golf related topics so much that I wear it on my sleeve.. well my bag anyway. I'm 100% self-taught but claim to have a decent enough eye and understanding of mechanics to be able to emulate and repeat what I see on TV and YouTube. According to my Garmin Golf stat tracker, I'm a 3.4 index.. but for starters, that's not an established handicap as I technically don't have one. And that's me playing my 80% of my rounds at my executive course where I'm a member and I know every nook and cranny. Most full-length courses that I play, I shoot high 70's to low 80's so I'm giving myself a more realistic handicap of around 8. That said, I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to be involved with a program similar to what GOFTEC offers and have some proper swing analysis and training. 

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MY PUTTING

Up until the last year, putting has really been a wall of frustration for me. I remember looking back at rounds in the high 80's thinking that if I had made all of those 3 footers.. or even 1-2 footers, I'd be 6 strokes lower. With the Pandemic and having more time at home, I decided to go all-in on putting practice and learn more about my stroke and build more confidence with the putter. I put in some decent time with the putting mat trying to create a solid repeatable putting stroke as well as feeling more comfortable with a putter in my hand. The putting practice paid off and I was no longer fearing those "should make" 1-2-3 footers. I have still had my struggles however with distance control and alignment. For starters, I've found that with my current putter (Cleveland HB Premier #4) anything outside of 12', the feel of the head seems to get lost and I'm unable to put a proper roll on the ball without seeing less than optimal skips and bounces. Another issue is getting my putt property lined up with my intended direction. Hitting a straight putt isn't the problem.. so much as being properly squared up with my intended line. So I'm hopeful that with all of the tech that goes into this putter, I'll start to see these areas improve. 


THE PUTTER

The putter showed up well-packaged in a quite secure and stout Edel branded box. After watching @GolfSpy MPR's unboxing, I was thinking maybe I'd be seeing a weight kit with the putter. I didn't get a weight kit... But that's actually VERY OK by me. The last thing that I need is a means by which to mess up my whole fitting by giving me extra weights to mess with.. because if you give me matches.. I will burn myself. 

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I did however find that in addition to the putter, Edel did include a nice little gift. I'm very much a hat guy and the hat they sent me was right up my alley! Right color, right style, very unbranded but specific to Edel. It's one of those "in the club" type of hats and I love it!

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THE PUTTER

The putter itself is noticeably heavier. Based on the specs of how the putter was fit and built, I'd speculate that it's a good 100g+ heavier than my Cleveland HB Premier #4. The grip section alone has an 80g grip with a 40g counter-weight.  The shaft is counter-balanced with 30g. 

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As you can see, per the spec sheet above and pics, I was fit with the EAS 1.0.  As I mentioned previously though, per the Blast Motion software, my typical contact is .2 to.4* open at impact. When I'm pushing, it goes to about .5 to .6* open. My fitter Aram at Golf-Tec mentioned that this is relatively neutral compared to most. Within 10', even .5* open is going to go in given my aim point and read is accurate. So while I was never fit into a blade (Answer) style putter, I was able to determine for myself over the past year that it really is the best fit for my setup. I have a tendency to aim slightly to the left as the blade-style putter looks a little more open to my eye and my miss is typically a slight push so in theory, while I'm aimed left, I'm pushing straight down the target line. 

As for my specific specs, and how my weaknesses were addressed without causing me to lose my strengths: The putter was built at 36" with a lie of 74*. For comparison, my Cleveland was 34" and sat at about 70*. Aram wanted to get me slightly more upright in my stance but more importantly move me closer to the ball as to allow my arms to hang without becoming disconnected from my body. In doing the ball drop test I was typically in the right spot with my eyes just slightly behind the ball, but I was just way too bent over and standing much too far away from the ball. Another point relating to my biomechanics was that I was also putting with the butt end much too close to my hips which also forced a lot of my shoulder and body rotation as everything was kind of stuck inside and rotating everything was really the only way that I could get the putter to work. In other words, my arc was pretty severe and just needed to be tamed down. 

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As for the hosel, I was fit with the "back-set" option. This is something that I'm definitely going to have to spend some time with getting used to. In David Edel's words, its pretty much a left-handed forward set on a right handed head. Most of us are used to seeing some variation of forward-set hosel, especially with mallet style putters. The look of the Back-set is that of the putter head sitting slightly in front of the hands at address. This is another fitting trick to help neutralize the open face a little as well as tame a little bit of the arc in the putting stroke. As you can see from the pics, this creates the perfect toe-up or "torque-balancing" that the Edel putters are really making a strong charge for in the putter space. 

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The overall weighting and counter weighting is also something that's very different to me, and not what I'm used to a putter feeling like in my hands. Aside from the hefty 80g rubber grip, there is a 40g counter weight and a 30g shaft weight. As you can see in the photo above, this brings the total weight to a stout 619g vs the pretty standard 497g Cleveland #4. As @GolfSpy MPR mentioned in his post, the club seems strangely but very appropriately heavily weighted. One of my weak spots was my tempo through the putt being much too quick. I would have a good pace going back but then speed up through impact and this was a major culprit to my distance control.. or lack thereof. If the head alone feels too heavy, the tendency is to rush it through impact. After spending quite a lot of time indoors with the putting mat and working with a metronome at about 100 BPM, I'm really finding the benefit of all of the counter balancing. The ability to move all of that evenly distributed mass at a more even tempo really seems to work well for that distance control. 

Alignment: I was fit with 2 lines up front and 1 in the back. I really liked how the 2 up front frame the ball while the 1 in back helps to concentrate on getting my eyes in the right spot over the ball. 

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I did have a chance to take the putter for a spin on Saturday at a 2 person scramble. That was literally after unboxing it Friday and hitting about 20 putts with it before going to bed. I'm not really going to count that as its 1st real round as I hadn't even had time to even acquaint myself with it. I just went in with my normal setup, same stance, grip pressure and tried to formulate a stroke throughout the round. So basically my game plan was.. no game plan. While I didn't putt my best round (putts within 10' were hit and miss, and I missed more 3 footers than I'd care to admit) what I did notice was that my lag putting and distance control was off the charts fantastic! Lag putting was something that I had struggled with, with the Cleveland. Anything outside of 15' was just typically "close my eyes, swing, and pray to the golf gods that I'd be within 5-10'. The problem that I was having was that I just couldn't generate enough controllable force without skipping the ball a good 4 or 5 times before it took to rolling. I had quite a few lengthy putts that not only were within 5' but some were well within 3'. I attribute this to having more mass with more momentum, but also having more control of all of the mass and not the feeling of the club disappearing in my hands when having to apply a lengthy stroke. 

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INTRO CONCLUSION

My intensions throughout this test are to do do a few different things. One of the interesting bits about the putter testing experience is that there's not much of a roadmap to follow. Sure there are plenty of driver and iron testing examples to draw from but the putter is something that relatively limited.. and especially with the custom-fitting piece added. 

What I hope to accomplish:

Reduce my average PPR from around 34 to below 30. 

Quantify the difference (improvements or decline) with real numbers

Help others justify if paying the difference in price and going through the process is really worth it

 

 

 

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Introduction

This introduction post will be in two parts: what I thought of my putting going into my fitting, and then my expectations and first impressions when I received the Edel EAS 4.0 putter.

Here are my thoughts on my putting going into my fitting:

  • I'm a decent putter, and it's a strength of my game, relative to handicap. I've got years of on-course stats to back this up, including Arccos the past two years. Over my past 15 rounds, Arccos has my putting SG equal to a 7-handicap. I average just over 30 putts per round.
  • There's a consistent pattern in that data, though: I'm a better putter (by SG) from 10–25' than I am from 0–10'. This is true in the data for virtually every round I play. I miss short putts far too often. Going into this test, this is my highest priority.
  • As for my actual setup and stroke: I've posted about this before, that I don't see the correct line correctly. I can set a 4' ruler on the correct line for a straight 8' putt, aligned with a laser. If I turn off the laser and address a ball at the end of the ruler, the ruler will look to me as though it is pointing almost outside the cup on the left. I have tried moving my head and body around to all sorts of angles without success. If I address a putt from the left side, the line looks correct.
  • Using a home putting analyzer (SwingByte), I therefore tend to aim about 2° right of the cup.
  • My stroke is quirky. Early on, I read Dave Pelz and decided to work on a SBST stroke. Like many who attempt that, I actually ended up with a stroke that tends to move outside the line on my backstroke. Coming into impact, I close the face relative to address, which starts the ball on the correct line, though a line to the left of where I was aimed.
  • On a normal straight putt, my predominant miss is a pull.

I'm intrigued, obviously, to see if any of the myriad alignment options on the Edel change my perception of the line. I'm also probably more interested to see if their torque-balanced putter, combined with custom weighting and their grip options, can mitigate some of my tendency to come outside the line on my backstroke.

Of the four headshapes, the rounded back mallet appeals to me subjectively the least: it's just not a shape I've ever really loved. My baseline expectation is that I'd end up with the fanged mallet: I am currently playing with the Toe Up version of the Odyssey Seven. But if I end up with either of the blades, that is no problem either.

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And here is the video I shot to jumpstart my review on the day I received my Edel:

 

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:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9°, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70 X
:callaway-small: Mavrik Sub Zero 15°, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70 S
:cobra-small: F6 5-6W, 18.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3
:callaway-small: XR Pro 20°, Project X 75 Black HYB S
:Sub70: 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW
:Sub70: Forged Black 50°, 54°, and 58°
:edel-golf-1: EAS 4.0 [CURRENT MGS FORUM TEST]
:srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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Yesterday I finally a played a round on a course that hasn't been beat to hell by the hotter than usual summer. So many of the "budget" courses in the Phoenix area have been in really bad shape from tee to green due to poor re-seed transitioning. The greens especially have just been really bad and just not in the kind of shape to get in some good putts. 

We played at one of my favorite muni's Dobson Ranch GC. Because it's a Muni and run by the city, they're able to keep the grass loaded up with city water and the course was in Excellent shape! The greens were perfectly manicured so FINALLY, putts were rolling!

28 putts!

Here's the rub though.. my short wedges were on fire! I had 3 that nearly holed out from off the green leaving me with 1-2' putts. That said, ANYTHING considered as a lag put was perfectly controlled and left within 1-2' for tap-in's. I'd say that another 3 from well outside 12' tracked all the way to the hole and just lipped out for a few more tap-ins. the 18th is a par 5 and I dropped a 10 footer for birdie! Overall I shot an 80 which included 1 ball in the drink and some less than stellar iron shots along the way. Looking back at the round, I really think that I had a chance to shoot par. 

Could it be that I'm getting really close to the next level? A few more rounds like this and I might just be sniffing rounds in the mid to lower 70's! 🤯 I do believe that the putter is really starting to become a scoring weapon rather than a stroke trap. 

 

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Ha! You matched my game last Wednesday, 28 putts!

im feeling the same way so far, that this thing is an asset, rather than stab and pray. I’m starting to look forward to putting every green, to see if I can make another one putt…

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Tomorrow I will play my 4th round, the first three rounds was really to get a feel for the counter weight added to the grip end as I have never used a counter weighted putter until now.  I love the new alignment lines (two up and two down) that help me line up my putts better to my target and I am feeling more confident in making shorter putts from five feet in.  I will say I still need to practice hitting longer putts (out of 15 feet range) with the weighted grip, my putting stroke is normally at a consistent pace during the stroke but for longer putts I've been more like jabbing at the ball versus making a longer stroke so work is still in progress.

During my rounds I also noticed the sound off the putter as feeling more clicky versus a thud even when using softer balls, not a negative to me but to some it may or may not be a factor.  I am also getting used to how I hold my putter as my fitter suggested I go left hand more underneath the grip, I am having a hard time on longer putts judging how hard to hit the putt so may experiment with other ways. 

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I plan to do a revision of the slow-mo putt video and ball revolution scale. Something with a little more definition. Stay tuned.. 

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As promised, here is a slightly better visual of the ball making a full revolution with both clubs. I did the same video experiment with both clubs 10 separate times and got nearly the same results every time. The Edel completed a full rotation exactly 1" ahead of the Cleveland right at the 11" mark. A few tests the Cleveland took more than 12" to complete a rotation but the Edel was crazy consistent at exactly 11". 

Why is this so important? I found that after 1 full rotation is when the ball enters into a "true roll". This is very helpful when trying to determine a putters consistency and it's assistance in helping me control distance. Assuming I put the right amount of swing on the club, If the ball takes longer to enter into its true roll, over 10, 15, 20' that might be the difference of a tap-in vs "having some work left". 

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8 hours ago, azstu324 said:

As promised, here is a slightly better visual of the ball making a full revolution with both clubs. I did the same video experiment with both clubs 10 separate times and got nearly the same results every time. The Edel completed a full rotation exactly 1" ahead of the Cleveland right at the 11" mark. A few tests the Cleveland took more than 12" to complete a rotation but the Edel was crazy consistent at exactly 11". 

Why is this so important? I found that after 1 full rotation is when the ball enters into a "true roll". This is very helpful when trying to determine a putters consistency and it's assistance in helping me control distance. Assuming I put the right amount of swing on the club, If the ball takes longer to enter into its true roll, over 10, 15, 20' that might be the difference of a tap-in vs "having some work left". 

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You may have answered this; too hard to look back and I am lazy.   Is the loft the same on both putters?  
 

really getting crazy: Can you do this same video on an actual green; same results?  Does different green speeds or grass types influence when the ball starts rolling?   This could tie into reasons to switch putter weighting.  

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9 hours ago, cnosil said:

You may have answered this; too hard to look back and I am lazy.   Is the loft the same on both putters?  

I don't believe I answered that so great question! While I haven't had the loft checked on either putter, my Macgyver-esque way of figuring out how similar they are or aren't is to hold each putter up to a square leg on my table that sits perpendicular to the floor at 45*. I put the club face flush up against the leg to see where the shaft leans in relation to where I would hold it at address. They both sit identically in the spot that I would hold them with the butt end of the grip pointing at the inside of my left pectoral (..urr.. manboob). My estimate is that they're nearly the same loft. I still need to get them checked at PGATSS and that is definitely a plan 

 

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really getting crazy: Can you do this same video on an actual green; same results?  Does different green speeds or grass types influence when the ball starts rolling?   This could tie into reasons to switch putter weighting.  

I'll see what I can come up with on this. I know that the putting mat that I'm using is a pretty quick roll. Much quicker than most greens. I would venture to say that both putters probably enter into a roll quicker being that there's more friction on a regular green. Stay tuned on this one.. 

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Shot one over today with 32 putts. Put every putt exactly where I aimed, I just didn’t aim perfectly. No 3-putts again.

it was a round where I got up and down 3 times, and one birdie, and the rest were 2-putts.

9 of the 2-putts scared the cup, and the other 5 were close enough for easy clean-up.

but the key here is the 9 putts that scared the hole. Some days these putts go in the cup, well some of them anyways. But let’s say 1/3 of them go, and suddenly this is a 2 under round. Most were in the 10-20 foot range, and when you are scaring the cup again and again, something good is happening.

I'm beginning to love this putter…

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18 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

Most were in the 10-20 foot range, and when you are scaring the cup again and again, something good is happening.

Have I mentioned that this is a lag-putt monster?! 😛 

Since becoming acclimated with the Edel EAS 1.0 I don't recall having a putt outside of 10' that resulted in a 3-putt. Like @Sluggo42 has mentioned, I'm starting to see way more putts lip out from long distance than I ever have! And the end result is maybe a 1-2' (or less) roll past the hole for a tap-in. 

I did play yesterday but it was really a "zen" twilight practice round with no scoring and trying out different shots. I had built a set of irons for my pops so we were getting them out for their first round. Only on 1 hole did a lengthy putt come up about 5' short. I was putting up a steep shelf on a par 3 green. I had to send it from one end of the green to the other and needed to move the ball diagonally up the shelf. The great news though is that I easily made the 5' putt to save what would have been par. 

 

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Shot a few strokes better today, and recorded,,,, get this….  26 putts..

had 6 less putts today than yesterday, but only picked up 3 strokes.

so this shows that basically, there is more than one way to skin a cat. Today’s round included some good up and downs that rescued poor approach shots. 
 

so total putts in a round can be a bit deceiving , and could also be an indicator of poor approaches, (gir) might be a stat I should start keeping. A few games ago I had a similar score, but more putts, but I was getting on the greens.

but at the end of the day, I was draining a lot of putts, and was oh so close on many more… Adele… my so, so sweet, …Adele ..  how I love thee..  hope my wife doesn’t read this or I’ll be in trouble haha

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I’ve seen several comments about lag putting performance.  I am assuming that the improvement is is distance control.   While left and right dispersion might be improved,  that isn’t lag putting in my mind.   Further clarifying, the fitting aspect that led to the sight lines and aim would impact left/right dispersion.  Length dispersion would be impacted by total  weight (most have indicated it is heavier than their prior gamer), adjustable head weight, the weights put under the grip since this was used to help dial in lag, or loft at impact.

that said,  do you think that you could dial in you prior gamer by using aftermarket opti fit weights and loft adjustments to improve lag performance.   Or is this something that is unique to some aspect related to this putter   

 

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Another quick update post: I just completed my ninth round with my Edel on Monday (most of those are 9 hole rounds). It was far and away the worst putting round I've had since putting the Edel in my bag. As a round summary, Arccos draws a little line with four points: SG driving, approach, short, and putting. Typically, that line starts low and gradually climbs, reflecting that driving was the worst part of my round and putting was the best. Here was my line from Monday's round:

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Blech.

I had 18 putts: seven 2-putts, one 1-putt, and a 3-putt. Simply put, I just didn't make anything. Several of those 2-putts were makeable, but I just made nothing. I suspect one problem was that I spent some time practicing putting that day, and went to the course with mechanics in my mind when I was on the green. So I'm hoping that this is an abberation.

Overall, though, the Edel continues to be a very solid addition to my game. Here are my big-picture numbers through the nine rounds, including Monday's disaster:

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The -2.0 number is my putting compared to a scratch golfer. So far, the Edel is staying just ahead of the Odyssey it replaced. Before Monday's round, I was hitting my goal for the Edel: a single stroke gained compared to the Odyssey. That gain has dropped to .3 of a stroke; we'll see where it ends up in the next couple of weeks.

Even so, I'm keeping an eye on one number in particular: the SG on 0-10 foot putts. That number remains the worst part of my putting, and it was the number I had hoped to see decrease most with the Edel:

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Raw putting numbers are still solid, again compared to scratch:

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I have fewer 2- and 3- putts than a scratch golfer and more 1-putts, but that is most certainly mostly due to missing greens and having tiny greens on my home course. That said, even in raw numbers, the Edel is holding its own.

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

I’ve seen several comments about lag putting performance.  I am assuming that the improvement is is distance control

Yes that's exactly it! My understanding of a lag putt is any putt outside of a range that I would expect to make about 50% of the time. for me that's about 10'. So 10' on out to maybe 30'. Anything beyond that is just swing and pray distance. Of course I attempt to make them all but not even the pros expect these to go in. I'm sure their range of makeable v.s. lag putts is different from ours. My objective on a lag putt is for the ball to stop in any direction of the perimeter of the hole by 2-3 ft or less, therefore allowing for a a stress-free 2-putt. 

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that said,  do you think that you could dial in you prior gamer by using aftermarket opti fit weights and loft adjustments to improve lag performance.   Or is this something that is unique to some aspect related to this putter   

This is actually something that I've contemplated doing at some point. One thing I want to do is play another round with my Cleveland now that I've gotten used to the weight of the Edel and more specifically the counter-weight and length. One thing thought that Edel didn't do for me directly, but was a bi-product of the putter fitting experience and working with a fitter/instructor was to help me with my pace control as well as help me find my body's best biomechanical setup and stroke. This might be considered a gray area in this whole putter fitting so I wanted to take my new putting setup and see how much of it applies to a different putter. I might find that I'm having the same success with lag putts now that I'm more consistent with my putting stroke. I don't think that'll be the case but I'm definitely interested to know. Time will tell and I'll definitely let y'all know. 

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On 8/11/2021 at 11:33 AM, cnosil said:

 

On 8/11/2021 at 11:33 AM, cnosil said:

that said,  do you think that you could dial in you prior gamer by using aftermarket opti fit weights and loft adjustments to improve lag performance.   Or is this something that is unique to some aspect related to this putter  

I dont see why not. Another component is the interchangeable heel weight. You can also change that to a lighter weight for faster greens, or heavier for slow greens. I didn’t get the weight kit, but this was what my fitter told me

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Bit of a bounceback round this morning. Overall, I shot a 39, so it felt great to break 40 again.

Putting-wise, I was still struggling with feel. When I'm putting my best, I take a couple of looks at the cup and can virtually still "see" it out of the side of my head when I look back down at the ball. For some reason, I've struggled with that my past 18 holes.

Nonetheless, I had only 14 putts this morning for an Arccos score of -.7 strokes compared to scratch. It's worth noting: I two-putted the first five holes, then went on a tear with my short game. While I missed every one of the last four greens, I putt a wedge to within 5' on each one and made all four one-putts to save pars.

I'd love to see something from 10'+ go down again sometime soon. But the Edel is in no danger of leaving my bag, even though I'm going through a bit of a dry spell putting.

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On 8/12/2021 at 1:18 PM, GolfSpy MPR said:

Putting-wise, I was still struggling with feel.

This is an interesting post. My first putt, first round, and every round since, “Adele” has been the most “comfortable feeling” putter I’ve ever experienced in my 57 years of golfing. But, it’s also the first putter that ever been fit to me…

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3 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

This is an interesting post. My first putt, first round, and every round since, “Adele” has been the most “comfortable feeling” putter I’ve ever experienced in my 57 years of golfing. But, it’s also the first putter that ever been fit to me…

Worth clarifying: by "feel," I didn't mean here anything to do with the putter itself. Perhaps I could call it a lack of focus, though that suggests a lack of attention. But the "feel" I'm talking about exists even before I start the stroke. On days when I'm putting well, I have this detailed impression of where the hole is, even when I'm not looking at it. On other days, when I lack it, my intention in putting is less specific: the hole is "over there."

Tomorrow, after Kirke's tournament round, he and I are planning to play together. This will be the first time I've played with my Edel away from my home course, so I'm looking forward to what I see from it.

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22 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

This will be the first time I've played with my Edel away from my home course, so I'm looking forward to what I see from it.

I’m guessing you’ll be very happy. My first day at a different track was surprisingly good. That was the day I got that double sandy par. 

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4 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

I’m guessing you’ll be very happy. My first day at a different track was surprisingly good. That was the day I got that double sandy par. 

You, sir, were not wrong:

 

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Interesting day, 31 putts and a good score. I didn’t seem to have many short putts, but I was on the green most of the time. 
just another example of shooting low, but having over 30 putts-

 

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When a Putter that you can rely on matters the most.. 

Hole 3 at Springfield Golf Club. 

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Actual play by play footage from tee to green. Been seeing more and more of these. 

The putt at the end was about 12 feet..

 

 

 

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Nice unboxing and initial thoughts @azstu324!  It's interesting to see that you and I think @GolfSpy MPR also had quite a bit of weight in the grip.

When I did my putting fitting with my Newport I ended up with 90 grams inside the grip.  The thing felt so stable on short putts.  It might take a round or two to get used to, but I think you'll like it! 

That backset on the shaft is very interesting, certainly something you're not going to see without a fitting like this.  Time to drop some long range birdies! 

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Played 18 with Kirke this morning. (I actually beat him, but I won't rub that in.)

It was my first time playing 18 with the Edel, and my fifth overall round with the putter. Today's round was interesting: I shot an even 80. I had a putt for 79 that missed on the high side. The round also showed the value of using something like Arccos for tracking strokes gained versus merely tracking putts. I had only 27 putts today (9 one-putts and 9 two-putts). But my SG:Putting for the round is -1.7 compared to scratch. I had a couple misses within 10', but only really a single putt that I felt I "should" have made. Otherwise, I was rock-solid on the short putts I was leaving myself with my wedges.

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The more interesting graph is this one from Arccos, tracking my most recent five rounds (with the Edel) against the five rounds before that (with Osltubs):

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Three things to pay attention to:

  • Compared to a scratch golfer, I'm losing 1.3 strokes per 18 holes on the green. If I change the comparison, that makes me the equivalent of a 6-handicap on the greens. Since my actual standard of play is somewhere closer to a 13 handicap right now, putting continues to be a relative strong point of my game.
  • Compared to my previous five rounds (you can see this in the fine print), I'm 2.0 strokes better per 18 with the Edel. That's a pretty big performance gain.
  • What I'm really impressed by is the consistency of the performance of the Edel so far. We're still in relatively small sample size territory, but look at how flat that orange line is. Basically, every round I'm going out with the expectation that my putting is going to be steady.

I do have a couple of drill updates to post as well, where the Edel didn't fare quite as well. But if the on course performance is there, it's hard to be upset about that.

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Played 18 on my exec yesterday. They had a recent re seeding mishap so they're growing the greens back out and they're very furry and bumpy.  

That said, I decided to do an experiment and deliberately set up a lag put for most holes. I'm a member here so I have unlimited play which is perfect for an experiment like this.

I wanted to see how consistent I could be with the lag putts being that I've got this new-found confidence with the Edel and distance control on longer putts. After the first few holes and trying to figure out the pace (SLOW), I didn't have one lag putts left outside of 3'. This set me up beautifully for a very make able 2nd putt. I didn't miss any of my 2nd putts this time! 

Imagine probably 12 of the holes below with putts ranging from 15' - 50'. 30 putts isn't all that bad considering I'm utilizing the putter to bail me out on these holes. 

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One thing that I'm absolutely falling in love with is the feel of the ball effortlessly releasing off the face with an immediate roll.  It's hard to describe but it's almost like the ball springs off the face but without skipping or bouncing forward. I'm really unsure if this is due to the specific varied hexagon pattern or the substantial total weight.. or both combined. 

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The post-honeymoon phase will determine more but I might say that the Edel is a much more rewarding feeling than my HB Premier.. and that's saying A LOT! Maybe not as soft but but just overall a better feel off the face. One of the things I'd like to do is compare the overall feel and weight of the EAS to most putters on the floor at a big-box and see if anything comes remotely close. I argue that there is anything similar. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, azstu324 said:

The post-honeymoon phase will determine more but I might say that the Edel is a much more rewarding feeling than my HB Premier.. and that's saying A LOT! Maybe not as soft but but just overall a better feel off the face. One of the things I'd like to do is compare the overall feel and weight of the EAS to most putters on the floor at a big-box and see if anything comes remotely close. I argue that there is anything similar. 

 

I'm with you on this, @azstu324. One of the putters I've enjoyed the most of the many that have passed through my bag was my Cleveland Elevado TFi 2135. It was an incredibly soft feel, but not squishy. On the other extreme, I wasn't a huge fan of the feel/sound of the Evnroll ER6 I had in my bag for about a year. To me, it felt harsh.

As I wrote above, the Edel's feel is so perfect as to be unnoticeable to me while I'm putting. It literally is not a conscious thought I have while practicing or on the course. I don't mean this to sound like hyperbole: it's not that it feels awesome, or like butter, or any of the other things people write about club feels. Instead, in my judgment, it feels exactly like what I'd expect a milled face putter to feel like. It's a perfect neutral for me.

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Christmas in July!!! Can’t thank MyGolfSpy and Edel enough for this opportunity to be fitted for the first time for a putter or any other cub for that matter.  Although I didn’t get a weight kit or hat or even a specs sheet in my pretty Edel box, I did receive this awesome fitted 4.0 putter, BAM!.  I can’t wait to put it to its paces and report back.  Initial thoughts when at looking down at the putter, I noticed I could see a lot more of the face even though the loft was not altered during my fitting.  So that is something I will be looking at carefully during my testing.  The lines and design looks very clean, although maybe in the distant future a paint job might be considered.

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Like I previously mentioned, my fitting took all of 38 minutes compared to my fellow spies.  I had watched all of David Edel’s YouTube videos on his putter fittings just to get an idea of what to expect.  I was expecting my fitting to be more geared towards David’s fitting methodology, but I believe each fitter and location has their own method in using Edel’s fitting cart, but overall my fitter was great to work with, he briefly touched on each of Edel’s fitting points.

My fitter asked what putter I had brought in with me and I showed him my Scotty Cameron M2 mid-mallet putter and what my tendencies were and I told him I usually leave it short and left of the hole.  He attached a mirror on the center of the face and we proceeded with the laser test to see if I was left or right bias, I was left bias.  He mentioned that my putting stroke was good and on point just needed a slight adjustment.

Initially my fitter set me up with a 2.0 putter which had a similar head shape head as my Scotty M2 mid-mallet at 33 inches and proceeded with the laser test again and this time the ball was on a better line, we rolled a few balls at 5 feet and saw that I was still going left and short.  He changed the shaft to a more offset shaft and flattened out the lie to 68 degrees because he noticed that the putter toe was slightly up and also suggested that my left hand be more under the grip to allow for a more fluent straight back and forward stroke.  I hit more putts at 5 feet with this new setup and made all the putts.

He asked if I preferred lines which I did so he drew a single line on top and bottom and had me putt a few more putts which I made them all at 5 feet.  We had few more putting session now at about 10 feet which I left most of them short but more online.  He suggested that I put a counter weight in the grip up.  The putter felt great, it was definitely on the heavy side but when making strokes with it, it felt smooth.  We made a few more putts and the distance was on par with the hole but was still little offline.  He changed the lines to double lines on the top and bottom which allowed me to have better aiming guidelines.

I asked to try out the 4.0 putter with the same shaft and counter weight configurations and we rolled a few putts and I loved the feel and the putts I was making from 10 feet distance, he said that I could go either way putter wise because my lines were all perfect and online towards the hole.

Now on to the field test…

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On 7/19/2021 at 12:13 AM, azstu324 said:

Lastly, I'm waiting on some feedback from Chris Koske at Edel as to whether or not this grip would hinder anything in the fitting process. I just think that this dark red kangaroo skin round grip would look killer on this putter with it's color way.. I really like the black one that I put on the Cleveland. Problem is that it's 27g lighter and might throw off the fitting specs. 

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Maybe add 27grams of lead tape to the shaft before putting the new grip on (lead tape underneath the new to keep the weight in the hands)?

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17 minutes ago, GolfSpy_CS said:

Maybe add 27grams of lead tape to the shaft before putting the new grip on (lead tape underneath the new to keep the weight in the hands)?

THAT is a fantastic idea! I think I might just be placing the order for the grip and have a roll of lead tape included. I guess the question now is "how much lead tape would I need?" I'm thinking that maybe I could probably do 20g and still be in the relative ballpark. 

Thx for the suggestion!

 

 

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Greetings all,

A solid thank you to MyGolfSpy, Edel putters, my fellow testers, and the vast army of the MGS family.

A few days after my fitting I had to fly out of state to help my siblings deal with an ongoing family medical emergency, and I’ll be returning home tomorrow morning.

MGS staff member GolfSpy MPR stepped up to assure me that taking care of my family was without doubt, #1 on their list of concerns, and that MGS will always be there.

Unfortunatly, life has a way of testing us all, and often presents us with situations we would prefer not to have to go thru, yet as the saying goes, “that’s life”, so deal with it. And so that’s what we do. Not a pretty thing sometimes, yet it is, what it is…

I urge everyone here to take a moment to look around you and to appreciate and cherish your family and friends. Tell the people you love, that you love them. You might not get another chance and it’s good for the soul.

Anyways, I’ll be back tomorrow, and will catch up on this thread with gusto, as I have a newfound appreciation of just how lucky I am to be able to play this game as often as I want, with a clear mind and a still reasonable physical ability to do so.

May your putts be true,

Sluggo

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Well it's been a good minute since I posted something.. 

For starters, no offense to Edel and their grip but I just felt like I had to pimp my own ride just a little. 

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It's been a while since I used an oversized grip and I took a gamble but I think it paid off. I'm finding that these heavier-weighted, torque-balanced putters really promote more of a "quiet hands" style of putting stroke. I opted for the Grip Master 2.0 style in Cabretta leather. It's rounded and allows for my stronger right hand to roll over the top (cover). Additionally it's about 30g lighter but I'm finding that it lightened up the club just enough and added just a fraction more feeling back to the head. 

How is the putter performing so far?..

This is from my round yesterday. 1.4 putts avg..? 🤨🤯.. I had to go back through the round and make sure nothing was missed. Nope. The course is a par 61 exec so don't let the score fool anybody. But still with my approach shots not being completely dialed in, it was my putting that saved my score from being even higher. 

I'm gonna come right out and say it again that this thing is a lag putt monster! I've never felt so confident with putts outside 15'. I did also drain 2 putts from the fringe so that definitely helped lower the average. 

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Following so I can get notification of updates to the thread.  Very intrigued by the Edel process and as soon as I ever get around a fitting center, I will be going thru it.  I've totally bought into their process.  But in rural Iowa, a fitting opportunity is a long way off it seems.  There is a Club Champion that is about 2 hours away but after talking to them, they only do a general putter fitting, not the full or Edel specific fitting.  Hopefully a fitting opportunity will come around or align with a vacation at some point. 

Looking forward to hearing more of these status reports on the Edel putters.   Thanks guys for the updates you give. 

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Please go to the “review section” for the goods!

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Are any of you going to attempt a slow motion video to see how the ball initially reacts off the face of the putters? I know no-one has the super slow motion camera in this video, but I'm just curious to see how it would compare to your gamers. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sirchunksalot said:

Are any of you going to attempt a slow motion video to see how the ball initially reacts off the face of the putters? I know no-one has the super slow motion camera in this video, but I'm just curious to see how it would compare to your gamers. 

Most of todays cell phones have the ability to do slo mo.  Here is an instagram post that will show you how to set it up. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRPGB06lqe_

 

 

 

 

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On 7/30/2021 at 9:15 AM, VtheGNMan said:

Following so I can get notification of updates to the thread.  Very intrigued by the Edel process and as soon as I ever get around a fitting center, I will be going thru it.  I've totally bought into their process.  But in rural Iowa, a fitting opportunity is a long way off it seems.  There is a Club Champion that is about 2 hours away but after talking to them, they only do a general putter fitting, not the full or Edel specific fitting.  Hopefully a fitting opportunity will come around or align with a vacation at some point. 

Looking forward to hearing more of these status reports on the Edel putters.   Thanks guys for the updates you give. 

I have to admit I was quite skeptical about getting fitted, right up until the aiming process, and the laser/mirror use. I will be the first to admit that I wasn’t a good putter, but now I know why. My last round on Friday, I made some really good putts. Trusting my aim now and putts are starting to fall, and more importantly, I can see that when I miss a putt, it’s because I didn’t read the green right.

im honestly expecting to gain a few strokes off my index now. I wouldn’t have ever been the guy to recommend a fitted putter before, but now that I’ve gone through the Edel fitting process, and am suddenly a more confident putter, I’m all in.

 

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4 hours ago, cnosil said:

Most of todays cell phones have the ability to do slo mo.  Here is an instagram post that will show you how to set it up. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRPGB06lqe_

 

 

 

 

I know how to do it on my phone and I've also got an editing app. But it's nowhere near 20k FPS so it's gonna be blurry. This is where the Cleveland will give the Edel a run for it's money though so I'm definitely interested in trying it out. 

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1 hour ago, azstu324 said:

I know how to do it on my phone and I've also got an editing app. But it's nowhere near 20k FPS so it's gonna be blurry. This is where the Cleveland will give the Edel a run for it's money though so I'm definitely interested in trying it out. 

Here are the tips on making is less blurry:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQZAKBuFkzA/

 

 

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4 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

I have to admit I was quite skeptical about getting fitted, right up until the aiming process, and the laser/mirror use. I will be the first to admit that I wasn’t a good putter, but now I know why. My last round on Friday, I made some really good putts. Trusting my aim now and putts are starting to fall, and more importantly, I can see that when I miss a putt, it’s because I didn’t read the green right.

im honestly expecting to gain a few strokes off my index now. I wouldn’t have ever been the guy to recommend a fitted putter before, but now that I’ve gone through the Edel fitting process, and am suddenly a more confident putter, I’m all in.

 

I’m all in too and I haven’t done it!  😂. After reading the Edel fitting process and a little experimentation at home with my putter and changing sight lines, I really think it’s huge and they are onto something.  I can’t foresee settling on a different putter fitting knowing how something like that isn’t even addressed by others.  

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Tomorrow I will play my 4th round, the first three rounds was really to get a feel for the counter weight added to the grip end as I have never used a counter weighted putter until now.  I love the new alignment lines (two up and two down) that help me line up my putts better to my target and I am feeling more confident in making shorter putts from five feet in.  I will say I still need to practice hitting longer putts (out of 15 feet range) with the weighted grip, my putting stroke is normally at a consistent pace during the stroke but for longer putts I've been more like jabbing at the ball versus making a longer stroke so work is still in progress.

During my rounds I also noticed the sound off the putter as feeling more clicky versus a thud even when using softer balls, not a negative to me but to some it may or may not be a factor.  I am also getting used to how I hold my putter as my fitter suggested I go left hand more underneath the grip, I am having a hard time on longer putts judging how hard to hit the putt so may experiment with other ways. 

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2 hours ago, 808nation said:

Tomorrow I will play my 4th round, the first three rounds was really to get a feel for the counter weight added to the grip end as I have never used a counter weighted putter until now.  I love the new alignment lines (two up and two down) that help me line up my putts better to my target and I am feeling more confident in making shorter putts from five feet in.  I will say I still need to practice hitting longer putts (out of 15 feet range) with the weighted grip, my putting stroke is normally at a consistent pace during the stroke but for longer putts I've been more like jabbing at the ball versus making a longer stroke so work is still in progress.

During my rounds I also noticed the sound off the putter as feeling more clicky versus a thud even when using softer balls, not a negative to me but to some it may or may not be a factor.  I am also getting used to how I hold my putter as my fitter suggested I go left hand more underneath the grip, I am having a hard time on longer putts judging how hard to hit the putt so may experiment with other ways. 

It’s interesting how you ended up with two lines on top, and two on the bottom, where I was 2 on top and 1 on the bottom. Apparently everyone’s brain has a pattern they can use best for accuracy. The counter weighted handle is another example of different strokes for different folks. And you’re being a left hand low is another difference. 
 

so here we have two people with a vastly different set up with the same putter. And that right there is a perfect example of what happens by getting fitted for a putter. And perhaps a great example of how two guys that could have bought the same putter off the rack would experience different problems. But instead, we have two guys with the same putter (except set up differently) experiencing positive results.

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On 7/22/2021 at 12:10 PM, GolfSpy_CS said:

Maybe add 27grams of lead tape to the shaft before putting the new grip on (lead tape underneath the new to keep the weight in the hands)?

Wouldn’t that throw off the counterweight system? Or is there still a moveable weight in the handle?  I ask because my fitter spent quite a while moving a weight up or down inside the grip as we worked on finding the “sweet spot” that is used to help me with distance control…

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1 hour ago, Sluggo42 said:

Wouldn’t that throw off the counterweight system? Or is there still a moveable weight in the handle?  I ask because my fitter spent quite a while moving a weight up or down inside the grip as we worked on finding the “sweet spot” that is used to help me with distance control…

So the grip itself is its own weight. The grip that came on my putter is the 85g round version. The New Grip that I put on is around 60g so I lost 25g in the grip section. With the grip though, it's spread out evenly throughout the 10.5 or so inches in the grip length and not in 1 specific spot like the Opti-Vibe weight. Neither grip is a counter-balanced grip with weight at one end, so really it's just making the grip section lighter by 25g which in turn will lighten up the total weight of the putter some and increase the swingweight a hair as the grip end is now going to be lighter. The balance-point of the putter moved about 1 cm toward the head and I'm completely fine with that. Additionally, the putter still maintained its torque-balanced toe-up properties so I'm not at all concerned with the performance of the putter being altered. It's really just a matter of fine-tuning to the umpteenth degree. (probably excessive.. but I know no other way) Before I made any changes at all though, I was sure to discuss the details with "the man" Chris Koske and ensure that no major performance specifics would be altered and he gave me the green light. 🙂 

Ultimately I have just opted to not mess with any of the lead tape and try it out with the lighter grip. I was able to salvage the Edel Grip so the worst-case scenario would be me taking off the leather grip and putting the Edel grip back on. 

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On 8/1/2021 at 10:23 AM, sirchunksalot said:

Are any of you going to attempt a slow motion video to see how the ball initially reacts off the face of the putters? I know no-one has the super slow motion camera in this video, but I'm just curious to see how it would compare to your gamers. 

 

 

OK so thanks to the help of @cnosil and the video he posted, I should have a decent video up by day's end. I'm just working with angles right now to get the most visualization without skewing the angle too much. So far though it's looking pretty good. Stay tuned 🙂 

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Ok so I put on my fancy pants and did some slow-mo video editing. Not sure what anyone can gather by either of these except for both start rolling almost immediately and are in full roll well within 8 or so inches.. 

Oh and can anyone find the Easter eggs that I hid? 😬 Hint: listen

It is pretty cool if you can sinc them up at the same time. I think the Edel has a slight edge here

 

Cleveland HB Premier #4

 

Edel EAS 1.0

 

 

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