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Equipment Type: Putter
Vendor: Edel

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TESTERS WANTED (4) EDEL EAS PUTTERS!

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Edel might not be the first brand you think of when it comes to top-end putters. But the reason isn't due to lack of performance.

In 2020, the revamped EAS 2.0 was one of the highest-ranked putters in Most Wanted testing. Moreover, the EAS line differentiated itself primarily on putts of 10 feet or fewer.

Founder David Edel uses a proprietary fitting system that accounts for the influence of shapes and lines on perceived alignment. For example, did you know that lines in the cavity of a putter tend to shift aim to the left?

Because every golfer is different, Edel believes that the ideal combination and head shape, lines, length, weight, and grip size is unique to every golfer.

With that said, we'd like to get some feedback from MyGolfSpy readers.

**Note: MGS/EDEL will set people up with a personalized fitting with a regional fitter or local Edel account if available - If not, we can do a TeleFit as a last resort.

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Hello fellow spies! First off I would like to thank MyGolfSpy and Edel for allowing me an opportunity to be fit for the first time for any club in my bag and have a chance at improving my putting game.  I have been playing this crazy game we all love and hate sometimes for over 20+ years and play to about a 15 handicap.  I would consider my putting game to be the strong part of my game even though I average about 36 putts a round, so I can't wait to see how getting properly fit will improve my putting statistics.  First impressions of the Edel EAS 4.0 putter I was fit for; I love the overall shape as it is not a overly large head but on the other hand it does not look like a premium putter in my opinion and unsure if some golfers will pay the premium price for it.  I might have to consider a custom paint job once my review is completed 👍.  Now on to the fun part....testing, stay tuned. 

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Greeting all, and my fellow spies of course.

Sluggo here, and im one of the cranky old timers that has lurked around here for years and years now. Im 65 years young, an old rock and roll drummer, and an avid tournament bass angler. And I golf… a lot!
I live in sunny Southern California and am fortunate to be able to golf year round- so I do! Im a 7 index, but starting to get lower again. Ive never been fitted for a putter, and frankly have always felt it to be a waste of time and money- after all- its a putter- a flat stick- whatever right? If it feels good, itll be good, right? Im in that 33-36 avg putts oer game zone, with an occasional ~30 putt round. 
MyGolfSpy and Edel golf have teamed up to give a few of us lucky ducks an opportunity to see firsthand what an actually custom fit putter can do for our game. 
I am deeply honored to be a tester, and a heartfelt thank you to MyGolfSpy and Edel golf for the privilege of doing so- I will give it 110% of my ability to do as best as I can.

So with that… lets get it on!

What do you think, can a putter really be “better” with a custom fitting session? I will give you the ins and outs of my fitting session, as well as some results, and you can make your own decisions based on my experience.

 
Edel golf teamed up with MyGolfSpy to put this concept to the test, and I was lucky enough to be one of the testers. My name is Sluggo, and I live in sunny Southern California, and I was matched up with a young man named Kevin Arabejo, to be my Edel master-fitter. Kevin drove out from Orange County, about an hour and a half away, to meet me at my home track. He soon arrived at Sterling Hills golf course in Camarillo Ca, to give me my custom fitting. Side note, I had a game later on that same morning, so Kevin came an hour earlier than our original time, so we wouldn’t be rushed. He had to leave his house at 5:30 AM! You just don’t get that type of commitment these days from an ordinary company. Hats off to Kevin already, this guy is the real deal.

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So we met up and  headed out to the practice putting green where Kevin started out by laying a piece of yarn about ten feet from a few balls. Kevin asked me to use my current putter, and to try to put all four balls as close to the line as I could. I was a few inches long or short but fairly close, I thought anyways- More on this a little later… So then Kevin measured my forearms and elbow to shoulder, and asked me to stand at a putting pose in order to determine where I slotted my putter. Im a torso slot, verses a hip or shoulder slot. Kind of the line where the putter shaft would go through my body on an imagined shaft line. This helps him create the putter neck that best suits my “slot”.
 
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He tried a few different shafts and had me take my putting “pose” with each, and ultimately determined that I needed a 34” model. I thought it was interesting how the length wasn’t on the test shafts, so I wouldn’t make a pre- determined stance to fit the length that I assumed should fit me. (Correction, the shafts did have lengths, but apparently i just didn’t see them… ) Actually most of the changes and adjustments for the whole fitting wasn’t shown to me while the fitting was taking place. He wasn’t interested in what I may have thought was best, he was only interested in what the fitting told him. After all, whats the point of getting fitted if you think you already know? And the reality is that if you’ve never been fitted for a putter, how would you know?
 
He then opened the “money drawer” of this fitting cart to expose the 4 different heads they use for the E.A.S. putter line, and asked me which one suited my eye the best. Apparently they are all equal in this fitting process, as they are all torque balanced, which results in less face twist. It doesn’t matter what path or arc your putting stroke is. They all weigh the same I believe as well. I chose the #4, which I call the fang style. Its a toe up putter verses my Evnroll ER3, which is a toe down weighted putter.
 
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So armed with all the physical traits specific to me, Kevin assembled the mock-up of my putter. Kevin installed the middle weight of 15 grams into the weight slot in the heel of the putter. This gives one the ability to change weights for either faster or slower greens.
 
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So then the actual putting work began to see what else needed to be done. I would make a few putts, and then Kevin would take the putter and fiddle with the grip. This went on for quite a while. Kevin told me to imagine I was just putting like I was just lightly tossing a ball underhand to the hole. One doesn’t really have to think about how hard to toss it, as your brain does this calculations for you. The idea of the grip weighs/counterweights was to create the weight that allowed you to putt with the same concept. It just goes as far as you brain tells you to, without really having to think about it, and just go by feel. Eventually we seemed to really get to that point. 
 
So then we switched back to my Evnroll putter and Kevin suck a small mirror on the face of it. He then unfolded a small screen and set it behind an apparatice that was round like a hole and had a laser light dead in the middle.
 
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He aimed the laser directly at the back of a ball and then had me saddle up and aim my putter directly at the hole, or what my brain told me was squared up. Then told me to freeze and he moved the ball away which allowed the laser to reflect off the mirror face and back to the screen, in order to see where I was actually aimed. It was about a foot to the left of the fake hole. this really blew my mind as I was sure I was pointed directly at the fake hole. hmmmm. So then he gave me the Edel mock-up of my putter and affixed the mirror to the face, same as when he put it on my Evnroll. With the same drill, he had me aim at the fake cup and then removed the ball to show where I was actually aimed. Darn if it wasn’t in nearly the  same place as my Evnroll was aimed. So then, he started drawing right angled “alignment" lines on the putter, but did a laser/mirror check each time, as we worked to get the green laser dot directly over the fake cup. After two on top, and one line on the bottom, I was suddenly lining the laser beam reflection, straight back at the cup. Seems the brain needs the right stimuli to get things straight. The finished putter has a small plate with these same lines attached to it.
 
 
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Another feature on the Edel putter is the round grip. Kevin had me try the 2 different sized grips to get the one that felt “correct” in my hands. The “slim round, or the standard round, and the feature that the round grip provided was actually no feature. No edges, no flats, no nothing that would cause you to grasp it the same every time. The genius of this is to make you align it with your eyes, and not by a repetition of how the grip fits into your hands. The problem with grips that have a feature of sorts is that if you change you putter grip and don’t put the new one on exactly as the old one sat, your alignment will be off, and you will have to relearn that feel. With the perfectly round grip, you never get “programmed” to a specific grip. You will always need to line your putts up with your eyes. They won’t lie to your brain like a mis-aligned grip would.
 
 
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So now I was really starting to put my putts either in, or very close to all the different hole locations we aimed at, and the part the I really liked was the follow up putts to any misses. The were going straight in. I didn’t really have to think about it either. It had become a "point and shoot” putter that requires very little thought. It was quite interesting to say the least.
 
Finally we returned to the yarn “finish line”, and Kevin again asked me to put 4 putts as close to the line as I could. Doggone if I didn’t put 4 consecutive balls directly on top of the yarn. It was spooky at this point, but, I had just completed about a 20 minute stretch of putting and getting this unit dialed in. But still…
 
So that was the end of my fitting and off we went to the rest of our day.
 
 

EAS Putter Specs for Sluggo42

Putter Model

4.0 

Alignment Plate

2 TOP - 1 BOTTOM 

Head Weight

15 GRAMS 

Shaft Type

ZERO OFFSET 

Lie Angle

70° 

Length

34" 

Counterweight

40g 

Opti-Vibe Internal Weight

30g 

Opti-Vibe Placement

4" 

Grip Type

EDEL ROUND STANDARD 

Weight Kit
 
Three days later I had to emergency jet out of state for two weeks, to attend to a family medical situation. About 5 days later the wife sent me a picture of a box that arrived at the house. Unfortunately golf wasn’t at the top of my priority list at that moment, so it just sat in the garage, patiently waiting for my return. After another week we were able to get the medical situation stabilized, and I was able to fly home. A few days of unwinding and I was ready to play again. I went to the garage and got out the delivery box, and opened her up to behold the finished product of our work to get the perfect putter fitted specifically to me. Having never been fitted for a putter before I was quite excited to see what would happen on her maiden voyage.
 
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Another thing I really like is the head cover. It’s sweet as a slice of apple pie. And the soft furry black imitation rabbit fur is so soft… and the strong magnet to keep it closed is great.
Here are some pics to enjoy…
 
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Here is a series of comparison pics next to my Evnroll ER3
 
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So let’s talk about the hexagon pattern with the varying sized hexagons “dimples”. It is my belief that this is just another variation of the concept that the evnroll face creates. The larger dimples in the center face creates less surface area that contacts the center hit of a putt. If you hit a heel or toe hit, you are striking the smaller dimples, which means increased surface contact on the strike. Therefore you will get an even distance with your roll if you miss a center strike… it seems to be the common theme with most new putters.
 
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First day out I shot a lights out round, and had a total of 29 putts. The next day, I had 31 putts. Today the hunnymoon was apparently over and I returned to my normal 35, or thereabouts, total putts for the round. But today was not the putters fault, but rather mine, as I never really gave myself any opportunities to let the putter show off.
 
So I will return my thoughts to the first round with Adele, and pass along my thoughts. 29 putts! Not a bad opening day with a new putter eh? Let me tell you, and also what I still think, about my first putt. It isn’t a putter, its just an extension of myself. I really didn’t think much about the actual rolls of the ball, but instead I really gave a lot of thought to my lines. I used to just lob putts in the general direction of my line, but I was now able to actually start the ball exactly where I aimed. I was either putting the ball super close, or in the hole. I had zero 3-putts, and 7 one-putts. Long putts were usually within a foot or two, and mis-reads are now my major concern. Follow up missed putts were all dead center without a second thought really. Adele just rolls the ball where I aim it. Imagine that! Putting a ball right where you aim it… Crazy stuff.
 
What the putter does best is that it tells you what you misread, or better yet, what you’ve read correctly. Its a good feeling to see a line, start the ball directly on that line, and watch it track right into the bottom of the cup. It inspires confidence and trust that you are able to put the ball where you need it to be. It also lets you down a little when you miss a putt that you hit precisely where you intended it to go, but you read wrong. Its a rare day that I have a round with less that 32 putts, and my first two rounds did just that. And even today where I was just off in many ways, I still only had 35 putts.
 
So to answer my first question, “can a putter be better when custom fitted”? the answer is without question, a YES. Follow this thread as we get more work in, and Ill try to bring as much thoughts as I can, And also, please feel free to ask questions..
Cheers
 
 
 
 

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The rating system doesn't allow for 1/2 stars so lets say I'm giving this a solid 4.5 stars instead of 4. 

To start this off, I'd like to give an immense thank you to both MGS and Edel for creating this opportunity. The chance for a select few of us to be part of something that not too many people will get to do in their golfing life and that is being fully fit for a custom-built putter. Before coming into this, my experience with putter fitting was limited to the following: you putt with too much toe hang so pick another putter that's more upright. OK now you have an arc in your stroke.. you get a blade. Ok which grip do you like.. ok there's your "putter fitting". 

MY GAME

I've been playing golf for nearly 30 years. for 25 of those I pretty much had no Idea what I was doing. It really wasn't until I stumbled upon the MGS community that I started to really take the game more seriously and actually start to study it. Over the years, I've come to rely on the MGS community for so many golf and non-golf related topics so much that I wear it on my sleeve.. well my bag anyway. I'm 100% self-taught but claim to have a decent enough eye and understanding of mechanics to be able to emulate and repeat what I see on TV and YouTube. According to my Garmin Golf stat tracker, I'm a 3.4 index.. but for starters, that's not an established handicap as I technically don't have one. And that's me playing my 80% of my rounds at my executive course where I'm a member and I know every nook and cranny. Most full-length courses that I play, I shoot high 70's to low 80's so I'm giving myself a more realistic handicap of around 8. That said, I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to be involved with a program similar to what GOFTEC offers and have some proper swing analysis and training. 

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MY PUTTING

Up until the last year, putting has really been a wall of frustration for me. I remember looking back at rounds in the high 80's thinking that if I had made all of those 3 footers.. or even 1-2 footers, I'd be 6 strokes lower. With the Pandemic and having more time at home, I decided to go all-in on putting practice and learn more about my stroke and build more confidence with the putter. I put in some decent time with the putting mat trying to create a solid repeatable putting stroke as well as feeling more comfortable with a putter in my hand. The putting practice paid off and I was no longer fearing those "should make" 1-2-3 footers. I have still had my struggles however with distance control and alignment. For starters, I've found that with my current putter (Cleveland HB Premier #4) anything outside of 12', the feel of the head seems to get lost and I'm unable to put a proper roll on the ball without seeing less than optimal skips and bounces. Another issue is getting my putt property lined up with my intended direction. Hitting a straight putt isn't the problem.. so much as being properly squared up with my intended line. So I'm hopeful that with all of the tech that goes into this putter, I'll start to see these areas improve. 


THE PUTTER

The putter showed up well-packaged in a quite secure and stout Edel branded box. After watching @GolfSpy MPR's unboxing, I was thinking maybe I'd be seeing a weight kit with the putter. I didn't get a weight kit... But that's actually VERY OK by me. The last thing that I need is a means by which to mess up my whole fitting by giving me extra weights to mess with.. because if you give me matches.. I will burn myself. 

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I did however find that in addition to the putter, Edel did include a nice little gift. I'm very much a hat guy and the hat they sent me was right up my alley! Right color, right style, very unbranded but specific to Edel. It's one of those "in the club" type of hats and I love it!

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THE PUTTER

The putter itself is noticeably heavier. Based on the specs of how the putter was fit and built, I'd speculate that it's a good 100g+ heavier than my Cleveland HB Premier #4. The grip section alone has an 80g grip with a 40g counter-weight.  The shaft is counter-balanced with 30g. 

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As you can see, per the spec sheet above and pics, I was fit with the EAS 1.0.  As I mentioned previously though, per the Blast Motion software, my typical contact is .2 to.4* open at impact. When I'm pushing, it goes to about .5 to .6* open. My fitter Aram at Golf-Tec mentioned that this is relatively neutral compared to most. Within 10', even .5* open is going to go in given my aim point and read is accurate. So while I was never fit into a blade (Answer) style putter, I was able to determine for myself over the past year that it really is the best fit for my setup. I have a tendency to aim slightly to the left as the blade-style putter looks a little more open to my eye and my miss is typically a slight push so in theory, while I'm aimed left, I'm pushing straight down the target line. 

As for my specific specs, and how my weaknesses were addressed without causing me to lose my strengths: The putter was built at 36" with a lie of 74*. For comparison, my Cleveland was 34" and sat at about 70*. Aram wanted to get me slightly more upright in my stance but more importantly move me closer to the ball as to allow my arms to hang without becoming disconnected from my body. In doing the ball drop test I was typically in the right spot with my eyes just slightly behind the ball, but I was just way too bent over and standing much too far away from the ball. Another point relating to my biomechanics was that I was also putting with the butt end much too close to my hips which also forced a lot of my shoulder and body rotation as everything was kind of stuck inside and rotating everything was really the only way that I could get the putter to work. In other words, my arc was pretty severe and just needed to be tamed down. 

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As for the hosel, I was fit with the "back-set" option. This is something that I'm definitely going to have to spend some time with getting used to. In David Edel's words, its pretty much a left-handed forward set on a right handed head. Most of us are used to seeing some variation of forward-set hosel, especially with mallet style putters. The look of the Back-set is that of the putter head sitting slightly in front of the hands at address. This is another fitting trick to help neutralize the open face a little as well as tame a little bit of the arc in the putting stroke. As you can see from the pics, this creates the perfect toe-up or "torque-balancing" that the Edel putters are really making a strong charge for in the putter space. 

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The overall weighting and counter weighting is also something that's very different to me, and not what I'm used to a putter feeling like in my hands. Aside from the hefty 80g rubber grip, there is a 40g counter weight and a 30g shaft weight. As you can see in the photo above, this brings the total weight to a stout 619g vs the pretty standard 497g Cleveland #4. As @GolfSpy MPR mentioned in his post, the club seems strangely but very appropriately heavily weighted. One of my weak spots was my tempo through the putt being much too quick. I would have a good pace going back but then speed up through impact and this was a major culprit to my distance control.. or lack thereof. If the head alone feels too heavy, the tendency is to rush it through impact. After spending quite a lot of time indoors with the putting mat and working with a metronome at about 100 BPM, I'm really finding the benefit of all of the counter balancing. The ability to move all of that evenly distributed mass at a more even tempo really seems to work well for that distance control. 

Alignment: I was fit with 2 lines up front and 1 in the back. I really liked how the 2 up front frame the ball while the 1 in back helps to concentrate on getting my eyes in the right spot over the ball. 

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I did have a chance to take the putter for a spin on Saturday at a 2 person scramble. That was literally after unboxing it Friday and hitting about 20 putts with it before going to bed. I'm not really going to count that as its 1st real round as I hadn't even had time to even acquaint myself with it. I just went in with my normal setup, same stance, grip pressure and tried to formulate a stroke throughout the round. So basically my game plan was.. no game plan. While I didn't putt my best round (putts within 10' were hit and miss, and I missed more 3 footers than I'd care to admit) what I did notice was that my lag putting and distance control was off the charts fantastic! Lag putting was something that I had struggled with, with the Cleveland. Anything outside of 15' was just typically "close my eyes, swing, and pray to the golf gods that I'd be within 5-10'. The problem that I was having was that I just couldn't generate enough controllable force without skipping the ball a good 4 or 5 times before it took to rolling. I had quite a few lengthy putts that not only were within 5' but some were well within 3'. I attribute this to having more mass with more momentum, but also having more control of all of the mass and not the feeling of the club disappearing in my hands when having to apply a lengthy stroke. 

Here are just a few more pics of the putter as well as the Cleveland HB #4. As you can all see, this is a beautifully crafter putter. 

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INTRO CONCLUSION

My intensions throughout this test are to do do a few different things. One of the interesting bits about the putter testing experience is that there's not much of a roadmap to follow. Sure there are plenty of driver and iron testing examples to draw from but the putter is something that relatively limited.. and especially with the custom-fitting piece added. 

What I hope to accomplish:

Reduce my average PPR from around 34 to below 30. 

Quantify the difference (improvements or decline) with real numbers

Help others justify if paying the difference in price and going through the process is really worth it

 

 

 

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Introduction

This introduction post will be in two parts: what I thought of my putting going into my fitting, and then my expectations and first impressions when I received the Edel EAS 4.0 putter.

Here are my thoughts on my putting going into my fitting:

  • I'm a decent putter, and it's a strength of my game, relative to handicap. I've got years of on-course stats to back this up, including Arccos the past two years. Over my past 15 rounds, Arccos has my putting SG equal to a 7-handicap. I average just over 30 putts per round.
  • There's a consistent pattern in that data, though: I'm a better putter (by SG) from 10–25' than I am from 0–10'. This is true in the data for virtually every round I play. I miss short putts far too often. Going into this test, this is my highest priority.
  • As for my actual setup and stroke: I've posted about this before, that I don't see the correct line correctly. I can set a 4' ruler on the correct line for a straight 8' putt, aligned with a laser. If I turn off the laser and address a ball at the end of the ruler, the ruler will look to me as though it is pointing almost outside the cup on the left. I have tried moving my head and body around to all sorts of angles without success. If I address a putt from the left side, the line looks correct.
  • Using a home putting analyzer (SwingByte), I therefore tend to aim about 2° right of the cup.
  • My stroke is quirky. Early on, I read Dave Pelz and decided to work on a SBST stroke. Like many who attempt that, I actually ended up with a stroke that tends to move outside the line on my backstroke. Coming into impact, I close the face relative to address, which starts the ball on the correct line, though a line to the left of where I was aimed.
  • On a normal straight putt, my predominant miss is a pull.

I'm intrigued, obviously, to see if any of the myriad alignment options on the Edel change my perception of the line. I'm also probably more interested to see if their torque-balanced putter, combined with custom weighting and their grip options, can mitigate some of my tendency to come outside the line on my backstroke.

Of the four headshapes, the rounded back mallet appeals to me subjectively the least: it's just not a shape I've ever really loved. My baseline expectation is that I'd end up with the fanged mallet: I am currently playing with the Toe Up version of the Odyssey Seven. But if I end up with either of the blades, that is no problem either.

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And here is the video I shot to jumpstart my review on the day I received my Edel:

 

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Yesterday I finally a played a round on a course that hasn't been beat to hell by the hotter than usual summer. So many of the "budget" courses in the Phoenix area have been in really bad shape from tee to green due to poor re-seed transitioning. The greens especially have just been really bad and just not in the kind of shape to get in some good putts. 

We played at one of my favorite muni's Dobson Ranch GC. Because it's a Muni and run by the city, they're able to keep the grass loaded up with city water and the course was in Excellent shape! The greens were perfectly manicured so FINALLY, putts were rolling!

28 putts!

Here's the rub though.. my short wedges were on fire! I had 3 that nearly holed out from off the green leaving me with 1-2' putts. That said, ANYTHING considered as a lag put was perfectly controlled and left within 1-2' for tap-in's. I'd say that another 3 from well outside 12' tracked all the way to the hole and just lipped out for a few more tap-ins. the 18th is a par 5 and I dropped a 10 footer for birdie! Overall I shot an 80 which included 1 ball in the drink and some less than stellar iron shots along the way. Looking back at the round, I really think that I had a chance to shoot par. 

Could it be that I'm getting really close to the next level? A few more rounds like this and I might just be sniffing rounds in the mid to lower 70's! 🤯 I do believe that the putter is really starting to become a scoring weapon rather than a stroke trap. 

 

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Ha! You matched my game last Wednesday, 28 putts!

im feeling the same way so far, that this thing is an asset, rather than stab and pray. I’m starting to look forward to putting every green, to see if I can make another one putt…

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Tomorrow I will play my 4th round, the first three rounds was really to get a feel for the counter weight added to the grip end as I have never used a counter weighted putter until now.  I love the new alignment lines (two up and two down) that help me line up my putts better to my target and I am feeling more confident in making shorter putts from five feet in.  I will say I still need to practice hitting longer putts (out of 15 feet range) with the weighted grip, my putting stroke is normally at a consistent pace during the stroke but for longer putts I've been more like jabbing at the ball versus making a longer stroke so work is still in progress.

During my rounds I also noticed the sound off the putter as feeling more clicky versus a thud even when using softer balls, not a negative to me but to some it may or may not be a factor.  I am also getting used to how I hold my putter as my fitter suggested I go left hand more underneath the grip, I am having a hard time on longer putts judging how hard to hit the putt so may experiment with other ways. 

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I plan to do a revision of the slow-mo putt video and ball revolution scale. Something with a little more definition. Stay tuned.. 

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As promised, here is a slightly better visual of the ball making a full revolution with both clubs. I did the same video experiment with both clubs 10 separate times and got nearly the same results every time. The Edel completed a full rotation exactly 1" ahead of the Cleveland right at the 11" mark. A few tests the Cleveland took more than 12" to complete a rotation but the Edel was crazy consistent at exactly 11". 

Why is this so important? I found that after 1 full rotation is when the ball enters into a "true roll". This is very helpful when trying to determine a putters consistency and it's assistance in helping me control distance. Assuming I put the right amount of swing on the club, If the ball takes longer to enter into its true roll, over 10, 15, 20' that might be the difference of a tap-in vs "having some work left". 

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8 hours ago, azstu324 said:

As promised, here is a slightly better visual of the ball making a full revolution with both clubs. I did the same video experiment with both clubs 10 separate times and got nearly the same results every time. The Edel completed a full rotation exactly 1" ahead of the Cleveland right at the 11" mark. A few tests the Cleveland took more than 12" to complete a rotation but the Edel was crazy consistent at exactly 11". 

Why is this so important? I found that after 1 full rotation is when the ball enters into a "true roll". This is very helpful when trying to determine a putters consistency and it's assistance in helping me control distance. Assuming I put the right amount of swing on the club, If the ball takes longer to enter into its true roll, over 10, 15, 20' that might be the difference of a tap-in vs "having some work left". 

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You may have answered this; too hard to look back and I am lazy.   Is the loft the same on both putters?  
 

really getting crazy: Can you do this same video on an actual green; same results?  Does different green speeds or grass types influence when the ball starts rolling?   This could tie into reasons to switch putter weighting.  

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9 hours ago, cnosil said:

You may have answered this; too hard to look back and I am lazy.   Is the loft the same on both putters?  

I don't believe I answered that so great question! While I haven't had the loft checked on either putter, my Macgyver-esque way of figuring out how similar they are or aren't is to hold each putter up to a square leg on my table that sits perpendicular to the floor at 45*. I put the club face flush up against the leg to see where the shaft leans in relation to where I would hold it at address. They both sit identically in the spot that I would hold them with the butt end of the grip pointing at the inside of my left pectoral (..urr.. manboob). My estimate is that they're nearly the same loft. I still need to get them checked at PGATSS and that is definitely a plan 

 

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really getting crazy: Can you do this same video on an actual green; same results?  Does different green speeds or grass types influence when the ball starts rolling?   This could tie into reasons to switch putter weighting.  

I'll see what I can come up with on this. I know that the putting mat that I'm using is a pretty quick roll. Much quicker than most greens. I would venture to say that both putters probably enter into a roll quicker being that there's more friction on a regular green. Stay tuned on this one.. 

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Shot one over today with 32 putts. Put every putt exactly where I aimed, I just didn’t aim perfectly. No 3-putts again.

it was a round where I got up and down 3 times, and one birdie, and the rest were 2-putts.

9 of the 2-putts scared the cup, and the other 5 were close enough for easy clean-up.

but the key here is the 9 putts that scared the hole. Some days these putts go in the cup, well some of them anyways. But let’s say 1/3 of them go, and suddenly this is a 2 under round. Most were in the 10-20 foot range, and when you are scaring the cup again and again, something good is happening.

I'm beginning to love this putter…

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18 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

Most were in the 10-20 foot range, and when you are scaring the cup again and again, something good is happening.

Have I mentioned that this is a lag-putt monster?! 😛 

Since becoming acclimated with the Edel EAS 1.0 I don't recall having a putt outside of 10' that resulted in a 3-putt. Like @Sluggo42 has mentioned, I'm starting to see way more putts lip out from long distance than I ever have! And the end result is maybe a 1-2' (or less) roll past the hole for a tap-in. 

I did play yesterday but it was really a "zen" twilight practice round with no scoring and trying out different shots. I had built a set of irons for my pops so we were getting them out for their first round. Only on 1 hole did a lengthy putt come up about 5' short. I was putting up a steep shelf on a par 3 green. I had to send it from one end of the green to the other and needed to move the ball diagonally up the shelf. The great news though is that I easily made the 5' putt to save what would have been par. 

 

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Shot a few strokes better today, and recorded,,,, get this….  26 putts..

had 6 less putts today than yesterday, but only picked up 3 strokes.

so this shows that basically, there is more than one way to skin a cat. Today’s round included some good up and downs that rescued poor approach shots. 
 

so total putts in a round can be a bit deceiving , and could also be an indicator of poor approaches, (gir) might be a stat I should start keeping. A few games ago I had a similar score, but more putts, but I was getting on the greens.

but at the end of the day, I was draining a lot of putts, and was oh so close on many more… Adele… my so, so sweet, …Adele ..  how I love thee..  hope my wife doesn’t read this or I’ll be in trouble haha

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I’ve seen several comments about lag putting performance.  I am assuming that the improvement is is distance control.   While left and right dispersion might be improved,  that isn’t lag putting in my mind.   Further clarifying, the fitting aspect that led to the sight lines and aim would impact left/right dispersion.  Length dispersion would be impacted by total  weight (most have indicated it is heavier than their prior gamer), adjustable head weight, the weights put under the grip since this was used to help dial in lag, or loft at impact.

that said,  do you think that you could dial in you prior gamer by using aftermarket opti fit weights and loft adjustments to improve lag performance.   Or is this something that is unique to some aspect related to this putter   

 

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Another quick update post: I just completed my ninth round with my Edel on Monday (most of those are 9 hole rounds). It was far and away the worst putting round I've had since putting the Edel in my bag. As a round summary, Arccos draws a little line with four points: SG driving, approach, short, and putting. Typically, that line starts low and gradually climbs, reflecting that driving was the worst part of my round and putting was the best. Here was my line from Monday's round:

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Blech.

I had 18 putts: seven 2-putts, one 1-putt, and a 3-putt. Simply put, I just didn't make anything. Several of those 2-putts were makeable, but I just made nothing. I suspect one problem was that I spent some time practicing putting that day, and went to the course with mechanics in my mind when I was on the green. So I'm hoping that this is an abberation.

Overall, though, the Edel continues to be a very solid addition to my game. Here are my big-picture numbers through the nine rounds, including Monday's disaster:

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The -2.0 number is my putting compared to a scratch golfer. So far, the Edel is staying just ahead of the Odyssey it replaced. Before Monday's round, I was hitting my goal for the Edel: a single stroke gained compared to the Odyssey. That gain has dropped to .3 of a stroke; we'll see where it ends up in the next couple of weeks.

Even so, I'm keeping an eye on one number in particular: the SG on 0-10 foot putts. That number remains the worst part of my putting, and it was the number I had hoped to see decrease most with the Edel:

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Raw putting numbers are still solid, again compared to scratch:

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I have fewer 2- and 3- putts than a scratch golfer and more 1-putts, but that is most certainly mostly due to missing greens and having tiny greens on my home course. That said, even in raw numbers, the Edel is holding its own.

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

I’ve seen several comments about lag putting performance.  I am assuming that the improvement is is distance control

Yes that's exactly it! My understanding of a lag putt is any putt outside of a range that I would expect to make about 50% of the time. for me that's about 10'. So 10' on out to maybe 30'. Anything beyond that is just swing and pray distance. Of course I attempt to make them all but not even the pros expect these to go in. I'm sure their range of makeable v.s. lag putts is different from ours. My objective on a lag putt is for the ball to stop in any direction of the perimeter of the hole by 2-3 ft or less, therefore allowing for a a stress-free 2-putt. 

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that said,  do you think that you could dial in you prior gamer by using aftermarket opti fit weights and loft adjustments to improve lag performance.   Or is this something that is unique to some aspect related to this putter   

This is actually something that I've contemplated doing at some point. One thing I want to do is play another round with my Cleveland now that I've gotten used to the weight of the Edel and more specifically the counter-weight and length. One thing thought that Edel didn't do for me directly, but was a bi-product of the putter fitting experience and working with a fitter/instructor was to help me with my pace control as well as help me find my body's best biomechanical setup and stroke. This might be considered a gray area in this whole putter fitting so I wanted to take my new putting setup and see how much of it applies to a different putter. I might find that I'm having the same success with lag putts now that I'm more consistent with my putting stroke. I don't think that'll be the case but I'm definitely interested to know. Time will tell and I'll definitely let y'all know. 

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On 8/11/2021 at 11:33 AM, cnosil said:

 

On 8/11/2021 at 11:33 AM, cnosil said:

that said,  do you think that you could dial in you prior gamer by using aftermarket opti fit weights and loft adjustments to improve lag performance.   Or is this something that is unique to some aspect related to this putter  

I dont see why not. Another component is the interchangeable heel weight. You can also change that to a lighter weight for faster greens, or heavier for slow greens. I didn’t get the weight kit, but this was what my fitter told me

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Bit of a bounceback round this morning. Overall, I shot a 39, so it felt great to break 40 again.

Putting-wise, I was still struggling with feel. When I'm putting my best, I take a couple of looks at the cup and can virtually still "see" it out of the side of my head when I look back down at the ball. For some reason, I've struggled with that my past 18 holes.

Nonetheless, I had only 14 putts this morning for an Arccos score of -.7 strokes compared to scratch. It's worth noting: I two-putted the first five holes, then went on a tear with my short game. While I missed every one of the last four greens, I putt a wedge to within 5' on each one and made all four one-putts to save pars.

I'd love to see something from 10'+ go down again sometime soon. But the Edel is in no danger of leaving my bag, even though I'm going through a bit of a dry spell putting.

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On 8/12/2021 at 1:18 PM, GolfSpy MPR said:

Putting-wise, I was still struggling with feel.

This is an interesting post. My first putt, first round, and every round since, “Adele” has been the most “comfortable feeling” putter I’ve ever experienced in my 57 years of golfing. But, it’s also the first putter that ever been fit to me…

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3 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

This is an interesting post. My first putt, first round, and every round since, “Adele” has been the most “comfortable feeling” putter I’ve ever experienced in my 57 years of golfing. But, it’s also the first putter that ever been fit to me…

Worth clarifying: by "feel," I didn't mean here anything to do with the putter itself. Perhaps I could call it a lack of focus, though that suggests a lack of attention. But the "feel" I'm talking about exists even before I start the stroke. On days when I'm putting well, I have this detailed impression of where the hole is, even when I'm not looking at it. On other days, when I lack it, my intention in putting is less specific: the hole is "over there."

Tomorrow, after Kirke's tournament round, he and I are planning to play together. This will be the first time I've played with my Edel away from my home course, so I'm looking forward to what I see from it.

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22 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

This will be the first time I've played with my Edel away from my home course, so I'm looking forward to what I see from it.

I’m guessing you’ll be very happy. My first day at a different track was surprisingly good. That was the day I got that double sandy par. 

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4 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

I’m guessing you’ll be very happy. My first day at a different track was surprisingly good. That was the day I got that double sandy par. 

You, sir, were not wrong:

 

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Interesting day, 31 putts and a good score. I didn’t seem to have many short putts, but I was on the green most of the time. 
just another example of shooting low, but having over 30 putts-

 

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When a Putter that you can rely on matters the most.. 

Hole 3 at Springfield Golf Club. 

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Actual play by play footage from tee to green. Been seeing more and more of these. 

The putt at the end was about 12 feet..

 

 

 

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This certainly sounds interesting! Good luck to all those who apply and sounds as though the fitting part could be worth its own section as part of the review. Thank you MGS and Edel for providing this opportunity to 4 lucky testers!

Edit: After a quick look at their site RH only?

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Putters and drivers....drivers and putters. Another great opportunity by MGS. Good luck to those who put in!

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Man the tests keep on coming. Great work MGS for the remarkable opportunities this year. Another solid one here. I hope no one torques them self too much if they are selected. 

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So much thought and customization into Edel products. Would love to get fitted and test one.

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I bought an older Ping putter based on MGS review. My putting, along with practice, has improved. I recall the articles claiming Ping was one of the few manufacturers using science to improve that club. And stay tuned for more. Perhaps this is another example of the 'room for more' improvement.

Looking forward to the continued reviews.

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I would get fitted and test one of these putters. thanks for the chance

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i call dibs on the 4.0. That's how it works right, as in the law of dibs, in the Geneva Conventions????

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I've watched a bunch of Edel's videos on putter fitting, eye alignment, effect of the shaft/hosel style etc.  Fascinating stuff.  Very interested in trying out one of the putters

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Number one club in the bag, I would like to see how it can improve my stroke and reduce putts per round. 

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I would definitely be interested in being fitted for, and testing this putter!  

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Edel makes wonderful putters.  Would love to test out an EAS!  Get Dingers to put out some putting videos too!

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Would love to test the putter. I keep going back to my Anser2 but this looks promising!

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I may have a slight problem with buying putters and keeping them. Would love to try out Edel and add to the collection.

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Would love to be chosen!  The difference between my long game and short game is pretty extreme, and I'm willing to believe the proper Edel setup could help me stop pushing putts and learn to trust my distance.  Me need help please...

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I have been gaming an Edel putter for 5 years now. Mine is the older version of what's now the 5.0 style. I got custom fit for it and their fitting process is second to none. I'd love to try out the latest and greatest. 

Looking forward to either reviewing this or reading the reviews on it. 

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Never heard of Edel before. Love the customization ability. SL irons are very intriguing as well. 

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I am always tweaking my equipment to see if leads to some improvement in consistency.  As such I would love being part of the testing group and would provide detailed feedback on the use of one of these putters.

Thank you for the opportunity

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As I am currently testing new putters and styles, this would be a great opportunity to compare next to several putters. 

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Would love the opportunity if Edel is looking for a lefty to be included in the bunch. Thanks for the opportunity.

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I've been listening to the youtube videos that Dave Edel did on his philosophy of fitting, the placement of aiming lines, different hosels, and head shape.  I am dying to know how these affect my perception of aiming, because I have trouble seeing where I am aimed.  Currently using an old 2-ball with one solid aiming line.

Rick

Tucson, AZ

9 handicap index

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