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Driver:  :titelist-small: TSi3 (7.25*) - Tensei AV Raw White 65 X Tipped 1.5" & 0.5" Short, 2 extra grams in T1 Position

3 Wood: :titelist-small: TSi3 (13.5) - Tensei AV Raw White 70 X Tipped 1" & 0.5" Short, 2 extra grams in T Position

Driving Iron: :titelist-small: U500 2 iron - HZRDUS Smoke (X)

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Irons (7-P) :titelist-small: 620 MB - KBS C-Taper X Stiff

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Glove:  Under Armour Strikeskin Tour

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I wouldn't mind seeing the rule go the other way: 10 to 12 clubs max.   Rounds at one's local course may actually go faster: lighter bag for those who walk, fewer clubs to choose from - and therefor

I would love 16 clubs, gives me more stuff to buy. Do I need 16 clubs, absolutely not.

I think the golf world would flip a lid and not be with it one bit. To much tradition and prestige in the GAME. True it would help average person and industry see a big surge in clubs being bought to

A rules change to allow 16 clubs is unlikely to happen, but if it did, I wouldn't be put off by it.  I seriously doubt it would have much of an effect on scoring.at the Professional or 'Better Amateur' level anyway.

 

As for typical 'recreational' golfers, some 'weekend players' carry more than 14 clubs now, and very few people really care.  When was the last time you actually counted how many clubs were in your buddy's bag?  

 

So, as a 'recreational golfer', if you 'think' an extra club or two helps you play better, or if it just makes you 'happier', or feel more confident, then I say go for it.  At the recreational level, enjoyment of the game is the paramount consideration... :)

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What's in Bobcat's Bag?  (Showing more than 14 clubs due to options)

 

Driver: :taylormade-small: 9.5* SLDR-C - 45.5" Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s, (1/2" tip)

Fairway: :taylormade-small: Tour issue 15* V-Steel 3W - Fujikura 757 Speeder Stiff

Fairway/Hybrid: :taylormade-small: 15* Rescue Fairway "3-Strong" - VP-90 Stiff 

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: #3 (19*) & #4 (22*) Rescue-Mid TP's - Vista Pro 90 Stiff 

Driving Irons: :taylormade-small: UDI #1 (16*) & #3 (20*) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Iron Set: :taylormade-small: SLDR Irons (5-8i only) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Hybrid Wedges: :cleveland-small: 2011 Niblicks 42*PW, 49*DW, 56*SW - Stock

SW/LW: :cleveland-small: CG-16 Black Pearl 58* Low Bounce 8* - Stock Steel Shaft

Putter: :bettinardi-small: BBX-81 Blade - Stock Bettinardi Steel Shaft 

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And yet it's the CART BAGS that have FIFTEEN slots!

 

Those carry bags with the funny legs that stick out often don't have individual slots.

You can leave a club behind and not know it until four or five holes later.

That's a great way to have fourteen or fewer clubs.......left.

 

When I would RIDE with my FIFTEEN clubs in the FIFTEEN SLOTS, at least I knew that I had all of them with me.

Not that they did me that much good.

 

Also, this is turning out a lot like the Ready Golf thread.

Once again, old Nifty is swimming against the tide.

Golf is a lot more like real life than I'd realized.

I have a carry bag with 4 slots, but use it on a push cart.  Fits beautifully!  There is no way I could ever lose a club because when I walk, I never lay a club on the ground.  Club goes back in the bag before I pull another club.  

 

When I ride, I always make sure that the clubs I pull when heading to the green are always left ON the green or fringe between the hole and the cart.  It's a habit I got into after the first time I left a wedge by the green where I used it.  It was funny that I was playing with a guy a week or so later who picked up that wedge, put it in his bag to turn it in at the clubhouse but he forgot.  I got my wedge back!!

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A rules change to allow 16 clubs is unlikely to happen, but if it did, I wouldn't be put off by it.  I seriously doubt it would have much of an effect on scoring.at the Professional level anyway.

 

As for recreational golfers, some weekend player carry more than 14 now, and very few people care.  When was the last time your counted how many clubs were in your buddy's bag?  

 

So, as a recreational golfer, if you 'think' an extra club or two helps you play better, or if it just makes you 'happier', or feel more confident, then I say go for it.  At the recreational level, enjoyment of the game is the paramount consideration... :)

I say fine, IF you are a recreational golfer who doesn't post a handicap.  An extra club can be beneficial.  

 

I recently bought a Callaway Sure Out wedge, and it is money for me to get out of bunkers.  It's my specialty club, but I gave up my regular SW to put it in the bag.  I have had to adjust hitting shots off the fairway with my 58º and my 50º to compensate, but it's worth it to make sure I get out of all greenside bunkers.

We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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I play about 5-6 strokes worse at my 3 club tourney versus my whole bag, and it's usually because I don't bring a putter.

 

 

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There is NO way I could give up my putter.  It's worth too many strokes to me.

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The 14 club rule is what makes this game so challenging. Two more clubs? You might as well make the hole bigger.

Now this I can get behind!!!   :D

 

16 clubs might be a good idea, I can use the 2 extra spots for some old clubs I can throw in case of a bad shot.  Save money on new shafts that way  :lol:

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Most recreational golfers probably use no more than 12 clubs regularly. 14 is plenty imho. Right now I have a 6 iron I rarely use and a 3h I should NEVER use!

 

 

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post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft

:srixon-small: Z355 22° 7 wood w/Miyazaki Jinsoku shaft
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post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft
:tour-edge: HL4 5-6 Ironwood w/UST for TE graphite shafts
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 Tour+ irons 7-GW w/UST Competition Series graphite shafts
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Most recreational golfers probably use no more than 12 clubs regularly. 14 is plenty imho. Right now I have a 6 iron I rarely use and a 3h I should NEVER use!

 

 

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Yep!  I can play my course with 11 clubs... if I hit them all perfectly.  The other 3 clubs might get used on those occasions when I am less than perfect.

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Yep! I can play my course with 11 clubs... if I hit them all perfectly. The other 3 clubs might get used on those occasions when I am less than perfect.

11 clubs is pretty much my standard bag, my carry bag has 8 and I rarely hit anything perfect. I'm simply not precise enough with my distances to utilize the full 14.

 

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O actually like the challenge of figuring out what clubs for a specific course or season.

 

Im currentky not hitting the driver well so it makes it easirt for me to decide.

DRIVER: Titleist 905R S 10.5

3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff

5W- Alpha XS

Irons- Titleist 716 AP1 S 1/2 over 2 degrees upright

Vokey SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright

Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider

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Lots of great discussion here.

What are the stats out there for amateurs? Less than 20% of all golfers have a handicap below 25.I think around there. So 80 percent of the golfers out there,to simplify it, do not know how to strike the ball. How will having an extra club help them? I think this will be of merit if it was allowed for players of a certain handicap range.

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Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts 

  :mizuno-small: MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff

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  :titelist-small: 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13   F 3 wood 13.5 deg   :nike-small: CPR 3 hybrid

:nike-small: Method mallet

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I think 14 is a good number for pros and for regular tournament play. For the average golfer though I think its better to have more clubs available not only to fill in gaps helping their overall game,but to help them figure out which clubs they strike better and therefore give them more work ability on the course for when they get to a point of trying their hand at tournaments and so on.

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Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60*


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This is a good topic. I always carry 14 or less, but really, if you're not playing tournament golf does it matter?

 

 

 

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post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft

:srixon-small: Z355 22° 7 wood w/Miyazaki Jinsoku shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 19° 3 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft
:tour-edge: HL4 5-6 Ironwood w/UST for TE graphite shafts
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 Tour+ irons 7-GW w/UST Competition Series graphite shafts
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg M-Series+ 56° wedge w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
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 So 80 percent of the golfers out there,to simplify it, do not know how to strike the ball. How will having an extra club help them?

Some can strike the ball a little bit.

 

It's hard to explain without some perspective.

 

Back in my younger days, they sold woods in sets of four (1, 3, 4, 5) and irons in sets of nine (2-9, PW).

A putter made 14, but if you added a sand wedge, you had to take a club out.

 

The less common clubs sold separately  were the 2-wood, more often used as a driver replacement than a fairway wood,

 

and the 1-iron, mostly deployed by expert players because irons weren't sole or perimeter weighted yet.

 

There was no lob wedge yet, and the gap wedge wasn't needed because the short irons had much weaker lofts.

Obviously, there were no hybrids.

 

So forgetting the odd ball utilities like chipper or Ginty, a FULL set would have been---

 

1, 2, 3, 4, 5-woods

1-9 irons, PW, SW

putter.

 

They made the 14-club rule to force players to play with less than a full set of seventeen.clubs

The better players could figure out which clubs to bypass.

The lesser players paid a price.

 

 

 

 

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They made the 14-club rule to force players to play with less than a full set of seventeen.clubs

The better players could figure out which clubs to bypass.

The lesser players paid a price.

Actually, players at one time carried a lot more clubs than 17.  See this quote from the USGA's webpage:

  • After many years of controversy that arose when some players began to use as many as 30 or more specialized clubs in a round, in 1938 the USGA adopted a 14-club limit; The R&A followed suit one year later.

https://www.usga.org/rules-hub/rules-modernization/text/a-brief-history-1744-to-present.html

A little more discussion can be found here:

http://blog.3balls.com/why-are-only-14-clubs-allowed-in-a-golf-bag/

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:callaway-small: Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X

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After we've all shared our views, I still think that fourteen was an arbitrary number that was ill-conceived.

 

Eighteen would have made more sense.

Eighteen is, at least, a golf number.

I'm sure the caddies of the world would have preferred nine clubs, another golf number.
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:callaway-small: Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X

:vokey-small: 52, 56, and 60 wedges

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I think this would keep too many players from learning to hit shots. You could just have specialty clubs that only do one thing...ie driving iron and hybrid that go the exact same distance but at different heights. Would take a lot of skill out of the game.

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Driver: TS3, 9* (C1 setting, surefit cartridge in fade setting)

3/4 Wood: 917D2, 16.5 degrees (D1 setting, surefit cartridge neutral)

Hybrid: Titleist 818 H2, 19 degrees (C3 setting, surefit cartridge neutral)

Irons: Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi 4-Iron (23 degrees); Mizuno MP-18 SC 5-iron(26) and 6-iron(30); Mizuno MP-18 7-iron(34), 8-iron(38), 9-iron(42), and P Wedge(46). Nippon Modus 120x shafts. 1 degree upright.

Wedges: Mizuno S-18 50, 54, and 58 degrees. 50 is 1 degree upright, 54 and 58 are standard lie. Nippon Modus 120x, soft stepped in the 54 and 58.

Putter: Evnroll ER1

 

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