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SCOR contacted us at MGS a few weeks ago wanting to pit their short irons against cavity backs, claiming that cavity backs offering forgiveness on short irons is a myth. They tried this test on other sites, but the results came back with only anecdotal evidence and very little solid metrics collected. With MGS's reputation, which includes our members, SCOR asked if we can produce something better. Can they send a pitching wedge and gap wedge to our members and prove what their tests on an Iron Byron already showed them:

 

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http://www.scorgolf.com/golf-wedge-comparison/

 

The challenges SCOR laid out for us are:

 

Challenge 1) Cavity back short irons are forgiving: They aren't - Iron Byron has proven that. On toe and high face hits, SCOR iron dispersion was up to 71 feet better. 

Challenge 2) A conventional wedge is as consistent as anything on full swings - The truth is, a conventional wedge design, with a low center of gravity and thin upper face, was never meant to be swung full. But we use them that way. SCOR progressive weighting design, along with the turn interaction advantages of the V Sole, result in significant dispersion gains. 

 

In other words, we are primarily looking at full swings and need to show that not only are SCOR's blade style short irons as forgiving as a cavity back, but their dispersion is better.

 

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This is going to be different than other Community reviews in that in this thread the testers will be periodically posting their results rather than waiting 4 weeks and giving a summary at the end. SCOR asked for testers from a wide range of handicaps, so we have RevKev for our lower handicap tester, MmmmmmmBuddy as our mid handicap tester, and myself as the high handicap tester. At the end of our test, I will write up the results and post it on the blog.

 

The three of us will be using the local driving ranges, par 3s, and any access to launch monitors we can get to run our tests. Early results show each environment is good for the following:

 

Driving Range: While it's notoriously hard to figure out distance without some device measuring it for us, the driving range is great for testing dispersion when you have a target to aim or two points to aim between. Also, for grass tees, we can test SCOR's claims of turf interaction.

 

Par 3: You can go to a par 3 with nothing but a Pitching wedge and Gap wedge. The main benefit is being able to hit a few balls, walk up to them, and use a trusty tape measure to figure out the dispersion. There's also multiple different turfs (tee box, rough, fairway) and landing zones. When measuring dispersion, the fairway is actually the best place since there won't be as much roll.

 

LMs: This is pretty obvious. Nic has plenty of access to a LM, so we should see interesting results.

 

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In my mind, I prefer the Par 3 results because we mainly care about how the irons perform on the course. At a full course, each individual iron may only be used a few times, but at a par 3 we'll use it quite a bit. Our goal is to provide results each week in this thread. Again, this isn't a wedge test, it's a short game test, so we're looking mainly at full shots, focusing on left/right dispersion and short/far dispersion. We will probably throw in a few subjective notes such as feel too, but dispersion is our main stat.

 

To everyone reading this, this is our first Community Labs and I'd love to continue doing them. Please offer suggestions on how you might test or how we might collect different results. Those who are most involved have the best chance of joining in future Community Labs tests!

 

WD Test Set: 

44* and 48*
KBS Steel Firm Flex, +1/2" length, Standard lie, Midsize Grip.
(Comparing against Taylormade Rocketbladez irons)
 
Nic Test Set:
46* and 50*
Genius 12 Steel Shafts In Firm -.25 inches, Standard Lie. Standard Grips.
(Comparing against Adams CB1 Pro Black and C. Carnahan Wedge)
 
RevKev Test Set:
44* and 48* 
Genius 7 Graphite R Flex, +1/2" length, 2 degrees flat, Standard size Grip.
(Comparing against Wilson C100 irons)
 
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SCOR Member Short Iron Test

 

By RevKev

 

 

I've bagged two SCOR wedges for about two years and so I was delighted to be selected to test for them in a very unique format.  According to WD the challenge was to test two SCOR short irons against my own short irons, my GW and 9 iron to be specific.  However once SCOR learned how jacked the lofts on all of our short irons were it was decided to modify the test to GW vs. SCOR 48 and PW vs. SCOR 44.

 

 

 

By now most of us know the premise but for any newbies or visitors its very important to be aware that this is not a traditional wedge test from 100 yards in, flop shots, part shots, heavy rough, sand, pitches, chips, feel, stuff like that.  Instead its a full shot accuracy and forgiveness test.

 

It all began when SCOR tested using the MGS favorite device, the Iron Byron robot.  In that test their blade like design consistently finished closer to the flag on full shots than the popular GI irons that they were tested against.  This was especially true on off center hits.

 

The specs of my irons were sent to SCOR who then built and sent me two short irons fit to be similar in distance my Wilson C 100's which I was very recently fit for.  The Wilson's are 1.5 flat, an inch longer than standard with 6.1 Matrix Studio R flex shafts.  The SCOR's carry the same lofts, 1/2" longer than SCOR standard, 2 degrees flat with genius 7 graphite R flex shafts.  I love the look of these shafts BTW.

 

 

 

 

For once I'm very happy to be that outlier low handicap guy who prefers a GI club.  I will be hitting tons of shots, head to head, on the short course at my club, to regular greens that are between 100 to 125 away.

 

Thanks SCOR and MGS for this great opportunity.  I'm looking for to testing and chatting, testing and chatting, testing and chatting some more over the course of the next month.

 

 

 

 

 


Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Alpha Distanza 40 weak R flex shaft

Tour Exotics EX 10 3 wood

Ping G410 5-9 wood

G30 6-PW -  Aerotech FT 500 shafts

SCOR 48,52,58

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

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SCOR Short Irons Member Review

By MmmmmmBuddy

 

I was invited by the staff at MGS to test the SCOR short irons scoring system vs my current short game arsenal. Needless to say, I was more than happy to contribute.  

 

I am currently playing Adams CB1 Pro Black PW at 46° and C.Carnahan Vintage Forged GW at 50°. The kind folks at SCOR have provided me with a pair of the beautiful 4161 Forged wedges at the same lofts and lengths that I currently play, 46° and 50°. I will make lie angle adjustments as needed. As a point of reference, I believe that I hit my 46° 125 yards, and my 50° 115 yards. 

 

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The “issues” that I have with my current setup are directional and consistency. I end up playing most of my shots from 135 and in at my club, and at this point, if I hit a green, I feel like I have won something at a carnival. This is not a good feeling. I either hit it right at the flag, or I miss the green by 25 yards.  I am hoping that the SCOR wedges will provide some better dispersion.  

 

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We have carried these scoring clubs at my shop for some time, so I am not unfamiliar with them (several of the better players that I work with are carrying more than one.) For whatever reason, I was never smitten with the shape or feel on the range. We will see if the real world testing changes my initial impressions. 

 

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My testing methodology will be a mixture of on-course testing, and range testing, as well as a healthy dose of launch monitor work to get actual carry and total yardage numbers. The on course testing will be conducted at 2 separate courses, one Par 3 and one regulation length. The par 3 course that I have access to has very small greens and can be a bit windy at the times I can play. My range testing will be at 2 different ranges, one grass tee, and one mats.  Launch Monitor testing will be done using a FlightScope Kudu courtesy of Fiddler's Green Golf Center

 

Initial Impressions

 

The white box of wedges arrived at my house on the Wednesday that we arrived home from a 10 day family vacation. Needless to say, I was a bit tired from driving, unpacking the car, and getting back to work. I decided that in order to do any real justice to these beauties, I would need a day or 2 to recharge. I unpacked the wedges on Friday, proceeded to take several photos, and then off to the range we went.  Out of the box, the SCOR 4161 short irons are quite stunning. Smooth lines, shiny finish, minimal offset, bright red grip…  I like the look of these. How had I not appreciated them at the store??  Hmmmm….  

 

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My Girls are going to be out of town this week, and all I will have to do on my list is Practice....

 


 

Results to follow soon..


What I lug around the golf course in my MacKenzie Walker.

Driver -   Ping G410 Plus 9° Tour 65 S
Fairway -  :srixon-small: Z785 13.5° Tensei CK Pro Orange 70 S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG IT S400 3,5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX4 Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Nike  Method Converge B1-01 UST Frequency Filter/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black / Ping Anser F/ Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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First post has been updated! In the spirit of the thread, here are my first results. Unfortunately my next set will have to wait as I'm going away for a week without golf, but I'll catch up later

 

Tested at the range, picking the space between two flags, roughly the size of a small green and hit 5 shots to them with both Scor clubs and my PW/AW Rbladez. Then I did it again for a total of 10 shots each.

 

If I hit between the two flags on a good shot, it was 1 point. If I hit really near them, it was 0.5 points, and a complete miss was 0 points. I re-did any fat or thin shot, though discussing how the clubs handle thin shots is also interesting.

 

Rbladez AW 4/10

Rbladez PW 6.5/10

 

Scor GW 6/10

Scor PW 6/10

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I, for one, am  very interested in seeing your results. I play Speedblades and love the long and mid irons. But I hated the wedges and I'm not real wild about my 8-9-PW, which seem to produce my worst approaches.  When I can get close enough to use my forged GW or SW, I'm happy again This has got me to thinking that maybe I need to hit a forged 45° PW at the very least and Scor makes one. And Scor's stated premise would explain what I've been seeing. Hence my interest in this thread.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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The minute I read the initial post, I immediately thought - why do I use my 54 degree wedge so much (sometimes even over my 49 degree PW). Marks comment above got me thinking, I have forged blade wedges and given the option I'd rather use my blade wedge over my PW. I've actually been toying with the idea of dumping my cavity back PW and getting a 50 degree mackdaddy and bending it to 49. Super interested in this thread!

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Mark,

 

We are each taking different approaches to our testing, at least thus far. WD has been on the range, I've been on the courses and Nic the LM. I've never found a set with a matched GW that I've liked. That includes my current gamers the Wilson C100's (yes someone plays Wilson). It also includes my back set of RocketBladzs although I think Taylor Made did a better job of making the Gap to that set look wedge like at least.

 

I've had the SCORs on the course three times. Once was a cameo at Sawgrass. I was hoping one of them would be the right club for 17 but no luck, the hole was playing 137 for us. The other two times I was on a relatively empty course, remember summer is offseason here, and I was able to go to my preferred yardages, aprox 105 and 118 and hit several balls and the measure the distance from the pin. Thus far the results with the GW have been stunning head to head with the Wilson. I've hit over 20 shots head to head and I'm averaging 19' from the hole with the SCOR wedges and 31 with the Wilson. Same relative specs on each club, I've only thrown one shot out and I shouldn't have hit it for a test like this anyway. It was from a severe side hill ball below the feet lie.

 

The PW is a different matter thus far, I've had great results with each club averaging right around 21' from the holes, very consistent, very forgiving in both cases.

 

Anecdotally I prefer the visual ball flight of the SCORs, more penetrating, easier to control on our summer sea breezes. I'm also a little longer withe the SCOR than my Wilson PW. If I were to toss the first five shots out I believe the SCOR might be ahead in the accuracy, dispersion race. It got drilled early though, I stuffed a couple of Wilson's in the first round to inside of 5 feet while I was 20 feet long with the SCOR wedge.

 

Today's another Florida day, hot, muggy and a 145 tee time less than 5 miles from the gulf. I will check back in later and will also be doing some serious data gathering at our local par 3 after church on Sunday. I'll be hitting a launch monitor before we wrap up to confirm what my eyes are telling me. Also I'd did the first set of tests with Nike RZN reds. I will do the next data set with a pro line ball. I saw some PRO VI logo over runs at my local golfsmith.


Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Alpha Distanza 40 weak R flex shaft

Tour Exotics EX 10 3 wood

Ping G410 5-9 wood

G30 6-PW -  Aerotech FT 500 shafts

SCOR 48,52,58

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

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Intriguing topic - dumped a wedge this season.  Currently gaming Srixon Z-TX forged cavity backs, with a 42* 9 iron and 46* PW.  Did have wedges at 51, 54 and 58 degrees. but found that one of the 3 rarely was used.  Switched to 52 and 56 degree wedges, with decent results - good for 115 yards and in.  I like  SCOR's philosophy of consistency in the scoring clubs, and am anxious to see how you guys do... 


 

What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: :ShotScope:


 
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My early testing has consisted of a few sessions on the range and a quick 18 on the Par 3 attached to my shop. (although it was blowing 30mph that afternoon.) Early visual indicators are that the SCOR wedges tend to fly on a lower trajectory, and spin a bit less. I will hop on the LM early next week and get some numbers, but I have a very strong feeling that this is going to be the case. 

 

Subjectively, I like these scoring clubs. The smaller head makes me feel like I am going pinhunting. The feel is quite good, and the lower ball flight is something that I was looking for in a wedge/short iron. 

 

A quick note on forgiveness. I perceive forgiveness in a golf club to be a clubs ability to cover up a golfers mistake. With a Scoring club, Like a 46° or a 50°, I would expect that most "correctable error" would be distance, and not left/right. When I miss a shot from 125 yards left or right, typically it is a swing or alignment error (happens very frequently). To me, the hallmark of a good scoring club is the ability to fly the prescribed distance, every time, even when I miss it a little thin or fat, or on the toe.  So the main focus for me on testing dispersion will be on correct distance control, and not too much focus on directional control (because I don't have any)....


What I lug around the golf course in my MacKenzie Walker.

Driver -   Ping G410 Plus 9° Tour 65 S
Fairway -  :srixon-small: Z785 13.5° Tensei CK Pro Orange 70 S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG IT S400 3,5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX4 Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Nike  Method Converge B1-01 UST Frequency Filter/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black / Ping Anser F/ Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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Mark,

Anecdotally I prefer the visual ball flight of the SCORs, more penetrating, easier to control on our summer sea breezes. I'm also a little longer withe the SCOR than my Wilson PW. If I were to toss the first five shots out I believe the SCOR might be ahead in the accuracy, dispersion race. It got drilled early though, I stuffed a couple of Wilson's in the first round to inside of 5 feet while I was 20 feet long with the SCOR wedge.

 

Rev a couple of quick thoughts questions. I'm thinking I wouldn't really want a penetrating shot with a pitching wedge. That may be why the 20 feet long? (Still looks like you are closer though with the SCOR based on the previous paragraph though 19 ft vs 31ft) Would it be possible when you go to your local golf shop to have them toss them on their loft/lie machine and check if they are indeed playing to what the bottom of the club says. I have nothing to suggest they shouldn't be, it's always interesting to just check out what clubs actually play at.

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Rev a couple of quick thoughts questions. I'm thinking I wouldn't really want a penetrating shot with a pitching wedge. That may be why the 20 feet long? (Still looks like you are closer though with the SCOR based on the previous paragraph though 19 ft vs 31ft) Would it be possible when you go to your local golf shop to have them toss them on their loft/lie machine and check if they are indeed playing to what the bottom of the club says. I have nothing to suggest they shouldn't be, it's always interesting to just check out what clubs actually play at.

 

I specd mine out before I hit them. and needed to bend the lofts .5° to get them into correct spec. (The were 1/2° strong) Other than that, they were spot on. A little heavier than my current short gamers..  D4.5 and D5  


What I lug around the golf course in my MacKenzie Walker.

Driver -   Ping G410 Plus 9° Tour 65 S
Fairway -  :srixon-small: Z785 13.5° Tensei CK Pro Orange 70 S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG IT S400 3,5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX4 Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Nike  Method Converge B1-01 UST Frequency Filter/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black / Ping Anser F/ Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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I know that WD will put my initial reactions post up in the placeholder spot but I don't want to come across as unappreciative of ths opportunity. So a huge thanks to SCOR and MyGolf Spy for inviting me to participate in this test.

 

Reacting to Jondagcl I could check them but I suspect they will be close to spot on. When I say penetrating don't think low, think more controlled like what you might see on tour. I'm always amazed at how low they hit their wedges, it's like that. The hole in question was down wind. I'm just a tick longer with both SCORs than both Wilson's and I prefer the ball flight. The distance control is great and I agree with Nic side to side tends to be alignment or slight swing flaw stuff, if you can hit it around hole high all the time you have something and so far these clubs have been consistent.

 

It's a forgiveness/dispersion test so we aren't suppose to talk much about part shots and yet those are important with wedges. It's way easier for mr to consistently grip down on the SCOR gap and get a tweener yardage than the Wilson G. I also love the club around the green, it gives me a third option that's been missing for a while, you should have seen the chip I hit on 13 at Sawgrass with it. Great control.

 

Spin is harder for me to measure this time of year because it's generally wet and the ball will stop. I'm using a medium spin ball for that reason. I will have to rely on launch monitor data for spin rates.


Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Alpha Distanza 40 weak R flex shaft

Tour Exotics EX 10 3 wood

Ping G410 5-9 wood

G30 6-PW -  Aerotech FT 500 shafts

SCOR 48,52,58

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

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Minus some feel issues for some I think SCOR golf makes the most Under-rated wedges in the game when it comes to performance.  Which should be all that matters for the clubs that go in the bag.

 

Collect clubs, fine, they go in the office or on the wall.  You use the weapons in the bag.  


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Thanks for the follow up MB and Rev. I get you now about the penetrating flight. I like to hear that the distance control is great, control being the key there. I definitely don't need a "distance" wedge. One that is more forgiving and more accurate though - that's something I'd pay attention to. Clicking in the link in the initial post it was talking about "reducing distance loss". I interpreted that to mean a wedge that goes further. Maybe I completely missed the boat on what that means, but I shifted to an internal dialogue of "if I want to hit my wedge a little further I'd just pull out a 9 iron, or another wedge". If I gained yardage with my 54 degree wedge full shot, then I'd need to make that up with something else - and I'd dip into a shot I already had with another club. No?

 

Very interesting test you guys are doing here, I'm excited to keep seeing the feedback.

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Awesome lab here MGS, very excited for the results.  I almost went with Scor wedges earlier this year, but ended up with the MD2's because I could hit them before buying.

 

They are still on my short list though and i have a feeling eventually I will try them out.


Driver: :callaway-logo-1: Epic SZ w/ VA Composites Raijin 65 04

3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :ping-small: 5i-UW G700 w/ X100 soft stepped once

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 54 & 58 CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Putter: :odyssey-small: Red 7s

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Thanks for the follow up MB and Rev. I get you now about the penetrating flight. I like to hear that the distance control is great, control being the key there. I definitely don't need a "distance" wedge. One that is more forgiving and more accurate though - that's something I'd pay attention to. Clicking in the link in the initial post it was talking about "reducing distance loss". I interpreted that to mean a wedge that goes further. Maybe I completely missed the boat on what that means, but I shifted to an internal dialogue of "if I want to hit my wedge a little further I'd just pull out a 9 iron, or another wedge". If I gained yardage with my 54 degree wedge full shot, then I'd need to make that up with something else - and I'd dip into a shot I already had with another club. No?

Very interesting test you guys are doing here, I'm excited to keep seeing the feedback.

What SCOR means by distance loss is on miss hits that occur high on the club face. Since that most often occurs out of the rough I intend to do a round of shots out of the rough at some point, at least with the Pitching Wedges. My Wilson's are very forgiving on hits low on the club face but less so if I get it high on the face. The SCORs are forgiving low on the face also which has surprised me. Yet they are easier to control which I find fascinating, forgiiveness and control don't seem to go hand in hand.

 

You're right consistency with any club is the key and distance is secondary, I should say with any club you're hitting to a target, if you're fortunate enough to play on an open course I suppose you could live with some inconsistency off the tee.


Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Alpha Distanza 40 weak R flex shaft

Tour Exotics EX 10 3 wood

Ping G410 5-9 wood

G30 6-PW -  Aerotech FT 500 shafts

SCOR 48,52,58

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

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My early testing has consisted of a few sessions on the range and a quick 18 on the Par 3 attached to my shop. (although it was blowing 30mph that afternoon.) Early visual indicators are that the SCOR wedges tend to fly on a lower trajectory, and spin a bit less.

 

Subjectively, I like these scoring clubs. The smaller head makes me feel like I am going pinhunting. The feel is quite good, and the lower ball flight is something that I was looking for in a wedge/short iron. 

I tried these wedges last year and that's exactly what I found too....lower with less spin.  I've made some significant changes to my short game since moving to Texas and have had the idea that I need to try the SCOR out again.  I'll be following this thread closely.


In my bag, August 2019
:mizuno-small: JPX900 Driver Kuro Kage Shaft (Stiff Flex)
:mizuno-small: JPX900 Fairway  Mitsubishi Tensei Shaft (Stiff Flex)
:mizuno-small:  850 Forged 4-PW; KBS Tour (Stiff Flex)
 :callaway-small: PM Grind Wedges
:nike-small: Method Core

 
:titelist-small:  ProV1X Balls
Sun Mountain Cart Bag
:Clicgear: 3.5 Push Cart

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It's a forgiveness/dispersion test so we aren't suppose to talk much about part shots and yet those are important with wedges. It's way easier for mr to consistently grip down on the SCOR gap and get a tweener yardage than the Wilson G. I also love the club around the green, it gives me a third option that's been missing for a while,

I agree...partial swings are very important in a wedge.  If you guys can throw in some extra thoughts on that along the way it would be much appreciated!


In my bag, August 2019
:mizuno-small: JPX900 Driver Kuro Kage Shaft (Stiff Flex)
:mizuno-small: JPX900 Fairway  Mitsubishi Tensei Shaft (Stiff Flex)
:mizuno-small:  850 Forged 4-PW; KBS Tour (Stiff Flex)
 :callaway-small: PM Grind Wedges
:nike-small: Method Core

 
:titelist-small:  ProV1X Balls
Sun Mountain Cart Bag
:Clicgear: 3.5 Push Cart

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What SCOR means by distance loss is on miss hits that occur high on the club face. Since that most often occurs out of the rough I intend to do a round of shots out of the rough at some point, at least with the Pitching Wedges. My Wilson's are very forgiving on hits low on the club face but less so if I get it high on the face. The SCORs are forgiving low on the face also which has surprised me. Yet they are easier to control which I find fascinating, forgiiveness and control don't seem to go hand in hand.

 

You're right consistency with any club is the key and distance is secondary, I should say with any club you're hitting to a target, if you're fortunate enough to play on an open course I suppose you could live with some inconsistency off the tee.

 

This is a very important point.   My Speedblade irons are terrible out of thick rough if you get a fluffy lie and fail to "pick" the ball.  That's because they have so little mass high in the clubface.   Hit one high and toey and the ball goes nowhere.   A forged wedge has mass distributed more evenly and thus can handle more of a high and toey hit.

 

I'm a little put-off by reports of the Scor's lower and less spin ball flight, because I'm already a low ball flight player.   Hence the reason I changed to Speedblades.   But I am intrigued enough by this thread that I'm going to buy a Scor 45 to throw up against my SB 45 PW and we'll see what's what.  I may have to extend it and regrip it to get a good comparison.  Fortunately, I have a little-used executive course nearby where I can throw hundreds of shots at real greens 135 to 150 yards away and I should be able to report back some extensive results about dispersion, ball flight, backspin etc.  Let's keep this thread alive for another week or two.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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