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Played yesterday. I think that I was possessed by Rodney Dangerfield for about 14 holes.  Couldn't find the golf course with half of my shots. From the tees that we were playing, I should have had 5-8 approach shots in the SCOR range.... Ended up with 2. I hit both inside 10 feet. These clubs are simply amazing.... for me.

 

I hear you.   With my trusty reliable Speedblades, I knew I was going to get something in the general vicinity of a green -- and believe me, at my level that's still good enough with the 3 thru 8 irons.   If I'm sitting at 215 out on a par 5 with a 4 iron, something near the green is paradise.   But it is not good enough with the 9 thru wedges.  

 

With the Scor's I now know I can put a ball at a tucked corner over a hazard.   I can aim at quadrant targets if I get 135 and under.   I know the shot is in the tank if I can keep the swing together and pull it out.   With the SB's, I only had a vaguely defined feeling that the ball would go somewhere okay-ish, but I didn't know quite where.   It would go Okay-ish more consistently than the Scor's, but had less chance of being great.   You feel me?  

 

The Scor is a sharper knife.   More chance you'll cut yourself with it, but also a better chance you'll get the job done more precisely.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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Played today and shot a 68 with 16 birdie attempts, making five.   The Scors were 8 for 8, which is actually a really low number of attempts.  Normally I use them about 12 times.   Two of those attempts were pitches of some 60 yards after I botched the iron approach.  Both were within 5 feet, resulting in par saves. 

 

Two attempts were what Rev raved about, but which I'd never tried before -- intentionally flighted shots.   130 yard shots that I had to punch low to keep them under trees.   Amazingly, both shots came off perfectly, hit the green, and one produced a birdie.  Rev was right, you can pull off differently flighted shots quite easily with these.  

 

Another shot was to a tough green with a white flag at 90 yards that had a backstop slope behind the pin.  So I took my 104 yard 54 Scor and hit down on it, hoping for some backspin.  It went 100 to the backstop 10 yards behind the pin and then it started to come back.   I fist pumped a YES, and turned to put my trusty club away.   When I looked up again, the ball had spun back just off the front of the green.   It came back about 30 yards.  The most spin I have ever put on a club in my life.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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Aren't those flighted shots with the SCORs nice. I had to learn one for a particular hole and now I use it quite a lot.

 

After your reviews and revs, I ordered two more SCORs. Got my 46 and 50 SCORs on Friday and played a course I only play 1-2 times a year. Had 6 saves for par on the back nine; two were with my 54 from the bunker. Hit them to 1 inch and 1 foot. Shot 78, love my SCORs!


We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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Yes they are.  I'd previously "skulled" a few that strangely ended up okay, but this was the first time I'd ever tried to hit long punches.  I'd simply never had the need before. 4 of my 8 Scor beauties were touch shots with the 58 to about 60 or 70.   So they were not full shots and usually pretty tough.   The furthest away was about 8 feet. 


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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Nice work guys. I've been away for a few days at a conference. Played one of the Disney courses in tough tough conditions, wet snarly deep rough because they couldn't mow it. Shot 75, the SCORs great around the greens out of that rough.


Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Alpha Distanza 40 weak R flex shaft

Tour Exotics EX 10 3 wood

Ping G410 5-9 wood

G30 6-PW -  Aerotech FT 500 shafts

SCOR 48,52,58

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

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I played for over a week now with my new 46 & 50 SCORs. Wow is all I can say! I am about to go with a 41 or 42 to complete my set. I will give them another 10 days tryout in Phoenix, then decide.

 

If they are this easy to hit and work so well, why don't they go on to mid-irons?


We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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I'm replacing my 9 with a 41 and I'd replace the 8 if they made a 36 or so.   That would boot all the non-slotted Speedblades out of my bag.   It will be really hard to rip those slotted SB's away from me though.  They were a dream for me again today as I played a 2 under 70.  I hit another stick while chipping with the 58 for the third consecutive round.   The only slight miscues I had were on two holes where I used my GPS to approximately range the flags and came up short because I pulled the wrong club.   If I'd lasered both flags, I would have seen about 5 to 10 yards more and pulled the right club.  I'm really impressed by their distance consistency.   They go exactly their distances if you hit them solid.   For me the 45 goes 135, the 50 goes 120, the 54 goes 108 and the 58 goes 90.   I can't really horse more out of them, but choking up for less like Rev says, is easy and reliable.

 

If I were selecting my Scor's again now, knowing what I know, I'd probably pick a 45, 49, 53, 60 instead of my current 45, 50, 54 and 58.  


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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After I got hit on my arm yesterday with a ball, I shot -1 over the last 6 holes. I had one chip in with my 50. The clubs feel solid when hit correctly, and for me I think it is the shaft. I am playing the Genius 9 graphite at R flex. I asked SCOR if they sold the shafts and they said no. Supposedly, this shaft is a 95g UST which is heavy for graphite. Probably why I like it; I like the weight of steel, but hit graphite further with less arm pain.

 

I also asked UST which shaft they provide for SCOR but so far, no answer. I think I would like that shaft in all my irons.


We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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Now that I have had these in the bag for a while, I find myself looking into other player bags. I am surprised by the number of SCOR wedges in better players bags that I am seeing...  More that I would have expected.


What I lug around the golf course in my MacKenzie Walker.

Driver -   Ping G410 Plus 9° Tour 65 S
Fairway -  :srixon-small: Z785 13.5° Tensei CK Pro Orange 70 S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG IT S400 3,5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX4 Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Nike  Method Converge B1-01 UST Frequency Filter/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black / Ping Anser F/ Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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I think you would see a lot more in bags if people had the opportunity to try them out.  I was fortunate to have a golf course that had a SCOR demo kit. The kit was a case with several clubs and shaft combinations.  I don't think they had ever been hit.  I spent a couple of hours with them on the range, around the practice green and in a practice bunker.  Ordered my 54 & 58 the next day.  They were my go-to clubs around the green for the last year.  Now that I added the 46 & 50 a week ago, I have many more options around the green.  I am doing more bump-and-runs when the pin is further away with much better results.

 

I am not sure that I would have ordered them if I hadn't had the opportunity to try them out.  I'm glad I did!


We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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They are probably Recoil 95 graphites.   The steels are KBS Tour 90's and 120's.  Whatever they are, Scor picks good components.  

 

Did you ever notice the grips are put on slightly "crooked".    Barry said that's done on purpose so your thumb can go on the white dot slightly off center.   Barry and I talked about divots, the V-sole and lie bending quite a bit and I began to think that Scor's should come with an instruction manual.   Everything you guys said about "do this, don't do that" has eventually been proven correct.  

 

The thing that really baffles me is why when I "skull" them do they still go the same distance?   I can't explain it, but I've learned that a screamer still has a good chance of staying on the green so I don't really even think of them as mishits anymore.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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I am not partial to the SCOR grips. I understand the point of the white dots, but I don't really care for the feel. They also seem to get slick rather quickly. I have them on my new ones, but as soon as I get back from AZ, I will replace with Pure grips.

 

I have never skulled them except on purpose, so can't say why they would go the same distance, but they are easy to control. Did Barry provide any insight?

 

I guessed that they were probably Recoil shafts, waiting for confirmation from someone.


We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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I played another 9 today.  Chips bad, full shots phenomenal.   Lately they've really been going SKY HIGH for me.   My initial reviews carped that the Scor's went lower than my other wedges.  That impression is completely erased.   I must have adjusted somehow because they are all real high now.   Distance control remains superb.   I need the longer grips because I do a LOT of low grip putter-chip chipping.   Without the long grips, I'd be on the metal.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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Two more weeks with the Scors and I'm more in love with them than ever. So precise, so reliable. Sometimes you'll read rave reviews about a club and then not hear anything from the reviewer until you see a month or two later that he's moved on to something else. Not so with me and the Scors, they are only getting better.

 

Today I was playing and the marshal tagged along with me for two holes as I raved about how precise my Scors were. I had a 135 shot that I sorta punched, but it still went straight 135, stopped 8 feet from the pin. Next hole I had 147 and I took my 40 degree that goes that distance and smacked it. I turned to  the marshal immediately after hitting it and said, "I don't even have to watch it, that's perfect."

 

The ball mark was 4 inches from the cup.

 

I probably just sold another set of Scors.

 

I really wish they made an 8 iron.

 

Only 5 months for the Hogans!


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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I really wish they made an 8 iron.

 

Only 5 months for the Hogans!

Well, then they would have to change the name to something like 3861.

I am as much in love with them as you are. Ready to pull trigger on 9 replacement.

 

Have you heard if the Hogan heads will be similar to the SCORs or if they will use the same shafts? I would seriously consider them if the feel was the same, and if they are not too "pro" for me. :)


We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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I played my first round in 3 weeks yesterday, and the SCOR wedges were just as good as they were a month ago. I am VERY seriously considering replacing 54°, 58°, and 9 iron with these things. I just seem to hit more shots that are online, and the correct distance with them. 


What I lug around the golf course in my MacKenzie Walker.

Driver -   Ping G410 Plus 9° Tour 65 S
Fairway -  :srixon-small: Z785 13.5° Tensei CK Pro Orange 70 S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG IT S400 3,5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX4 Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Nike  Method Converge B1-01 UST Frequency Filter/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black / Ping Anser F/ Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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Yes, and yes.   I've heard they will have v-soles and that they will integrate into existing Scor offerings.  

 

I saw no loss of distance or control with my 9 replacement.   They bent it to 40 for me at the factory.   Only quibble was shaft length, I ordered 3/4" long and it came REALLY long.  I had to cut about 1/2" off to match my existing 9.   But it has been a beauty for me along with the others.   I'm wondering how long the Scor has to be before I start screwing it up.   Probably around a 7 iron, i'm thinking.

 

The Scors have been the best, most substantial club replacements I've done in about 5 years.  They just go where I point them and to that consistent distance every time.   They've made me more dependent on my laser, however.   It's no longer good enough to gps a pin and get in the general vicinity.   Now I want to know exactly how far so I can choke up on a club if necessary.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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I am surprised by all the people just now becoming aware of this.  I replaced my short iron blades with GI cavity backs years ago and did not lower my handicap.  I hit no more greens with GI clubs than blades and partial shots were much worse. It was not until I went back to blade irons that I lowered my handicap.  However, just because I can occasionally hit a 2 iron blade flush, does not mean that I have to.  My bag is set up to give me my best scoring opportunities.

 

I do not have Scor wedges,  although I do lust for them from time to time.  If they made up to a 5 or 6 iron I would have them in the bag right now.

 

If you want to see true game improvement, learn to hit the 3/4 shots, 9=110, PW = 100, 52 = 85, 56=75, 60=65 or the 1/2 shots, 9=80, PW=70, 52=60. 56=50, 60=40.

 

I extend this to every club in the bag, but since the 6 down are blades, they are far more accurate.  If I am 140 yards out, and use a half or three-quarters shot and am more than 15 feet from the flag, I am disappointed.  I am disappointed a lot, but I am also very happy more often. 


 

Driver:      :mizuno-small:  ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Fairway:   :mizuno-small:  ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Hybrids     :mizuno-small:  CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER

Irons:     :mizuno-small:  MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold

Wedges: :mizuno-small: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

Putter:    :cameron-small: 2018 Select Newport 2

Balls:      :titelist-small: Pro V1X

Shoes:     :footjoy-small:

Range Finder: Precision Pro  NX7 Pro

All grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated

 

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I switched to GI for the long end.  I was so sick of hitting poor 5 and 4 irons to 185 and 200 and leaving a 30 yard gap till I got to my 5 wood at 230 that I had to do something.   So I got these super easy to hit Speedblades.   The 4 iron is very reliable to 215-220 and the 5 is solid to 200.   6 is my favorite club to 185 and 7 is a steady 175.

 

Then things start to get "fuzzy".   The SB short irons were like shotguns -- they would hit something in front of me, but I would never be quite sure where they were pointed.   Or rather, I should say I was pointed in the right direction all along  -- I know that now thanks to the Scors -- but the Speedblade short irons would only go in the approximate direction I pointed them.   The fuzziness got worse the shorter I went.   I very quickly ditched the set GW, SW, and LW.   Took me a little longer to replace the PW and 9.

 

Gapping is a problem when trying to blend a GI long set with traditional short irons.   If not for the Scors' ability to specify lofts and lengths, I'd be stuck or have to bend a lot.   If I want to replace my SB 8 iron going forward, I'll have to find some forged 7 iron and reshaft it AND bend it for loft to get something that goes approximately the same distance.


bag - SunMountain Synch with Ogio Synergy X4 cart
driver - :callaway-small: Optiforce 440, Paderson Kevlar Green stiff 46.5"
fwoods - :taylormade-small: Jetspeed, 3HL regular
irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
putter - :ping-small: Ketsch 35" slight arc, SuperStroke 2.0 mid-slim
ball - :titelist-small: ProV1x

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If you want to see true game improvement, learn to hit the 3/4 shots, 9=110, PW = 100, 52 = 85, 56=75, 60=65 or the 1/2 shots, 9=80, PW=70, 52=60. 56=50, 60=40.

 

RR, you just described my full shots! :)


We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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