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My kid just started working as at the local course and he hates golf so he actually works and doesn't goof off.   One of his duties is to pick up the balls on the range every night.   I told him to keep a look out for ProV's amidst all the stripers and I'd swap him 2 newer Surlyns for any ProV he finds so the course isn't shorted.  (Course doesn't sort the balls, they just get washed and go back out.)

 

He came back with 33 pretty good ones his first night!  And this range does NOT adjoin the course so it's not catching strays over the fence.   66 Surlyns about tapped out my shag bag, so that deal is off for awhile.

 

But who the heck is hitting all those good ProV's at the range?

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Obviously people with more dollars than sense!

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I would go buy some crappy Wilson's for $5 a dozen at Wal Mart and keep that going.  It would be worth it to stock up.

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Is the range next to a hole on the course?  Because sometimes the range is pretty in play on some courses.

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We don't have a range anymore......the range property was sold for an Apt complex......BTW, the course did not own the range, they leased it.  Now we only have 4 driving cages.

 

 

When we did have the range, I used to take a bag of shags and hit them, donating them to the range.

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Is there water on the course?  Sometimes courses will hire a guy to pick balls from the water and just add them to the range ball stock

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Is there water on the course?  Sometimes courses will hire a guy to pick balls from the water and just add them to the range ball stock

 

Yes, water is on 17 holes.......and NO, you can't just wade out and pick up balls.....This is Florida.  We have Gators(not just at U of FL).  The Feb 2013 issue of GOLF magazine had an article "The Most Dangerous Job in Golf"  about a professional diver who contracts to retrieve golfballs from the waters.  He talks about the gator that attacked him at my home course, Pebble Creek.

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I would go buy some crappy Wilson's for $5 a dozen at Wal Mart and keep that going.  It would be worth it to stock up.

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If you get behind the Duke University Men's Golf team in a practice round, they will leave ProVs all over the place because the team gives them the balls. It is not too terribly uncommon to find a few mixed into the range bucket because the Golf Team shares the range with everyone else. When you get the balls for free, guess it doesn't really matter what you do with them :)

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I'm the guy fishing them out of the ponds and creeks!   That's where I got the 66 to trade back in.   And I do hit back on the range every brand of ball I won't play.   BTW, in that same garbage can full of balls were HUNDREDS of Hex Chromes, B330's, Z-stars, 20Xi's, etc.   We didn't even bother with those.

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I've done it before.  At the end of a session and I hit a bad one, I'll pull a ball or two from the bag because I like to end on a good swing.  

That said, swapping balls for the ProV's is the right move.  Lots of people would just stick them in their bag and not leave another to replace it (yes, I've seen it done lots of times by lots of people on the range, some even brag out loud about it).   That's wrong and it's stealing.  The balls, once lost, become property of the course to do as they see fit with.  If that's add them to the range, so be it.  They're not free for the taking because they're not "range" balls (meaning they don't say range on them).  It irks me when I see the behavior, I just don't say anything because that's not my place as I don't own or work for the course.  Just a pet peeve.  Glad you're swapping ball for ball (or 2 for 1 in your case).

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I've also done although not with a Pro VI. If I'm unhappy with my last swing I've pulled a ball or two from the bag and whacked it out. I almost always have a few lesser balls in my bag that were found on the course. I can't remember the last time I took a ball from the range bucket and if ever I have I've always swapped out something from my bag.

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I've done it before.  At the end of a session and I hit a bad one, I'll pull a ball or two from the bag because I like to end on a good swing.  

 

That said, swapping balls for the ProV's is the right move.  Lots of people would just stick them in their bag and not leave another to replace it (yes, I've seen it done lots of times by lots of people on the range, some even brag out loud about it).   That's wrong and it's stealing.  The balls, once lost, become property of the course to do as they see fit with.  If that's add them to the range, so be it.  They're not free for the taking because they're not "range" balls (meaning they don't say range on them).  It irks me when I see the behavior, I just don't say anything because that's not my place as I don't own or work for the course.  Just a pet peeve.  Glad you're swapping ball for ball (or 2 for 1 in your case).

Well, not to quibble, but I doubt that an item lost by its original owner on a public use facility actually becomes the property of the owner of the facility.   If you lose a club does it become the course's property if they pick it up before you?   If you lose your kid or wallet at Disneyland, does the Mouse get it?

 

Regardless, a ProV in the driving range scoopers and cleaners doesn't last long, maybe a month tops.   Even the Surlyn balls only last one year.

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Yes, water is on 17 holes.......and NO, you can't just wade out and pick up balls.....This is Florida.  We have Gators(not just at U of FL).  The Feb 2013 issue of GOLF magazine had an article "The Most Dangerous Job in Golf"  about a professional diver who contracts to retrieve golfballs from the waters.  He talks about the gator that attacked him at my home course, Pebble Creek.

That was a great article.

 

I've seen a few pro V's on the range.. I'll usually swap them out with some junk balls. 

 

As a side note do courses get paid for any balls found on the course?

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Yes they do.  They will contract with divers and split the proceeds of the haul.    So of course they do claim whatever is leftover on their courses and no one disputes their claim.   But what if you lost something extra special and continued to try to find it (like a watch or cell phone) could the course keep it just because you had to walk away from it?   Can no one fish balls from the ponds they are playing because once in the drink it belongs to the course?

 

An interesting legal thought experiment, but probably not much of anything else.   In the past year I've probably donated 500 balls to my local range by banging them into the back net.   I figure that's a fair trade for the divots I take.

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Most of my ProV1s that have met the ultimate demise of a cart path or a thinned wedge end up at my local range.

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Most courses I've played have a disclaimer that lost golf balls, upon being abandoned, become the property of the course. By paying your green fees, you accept this disclaimer. Therefore, yes, it's stealing if you take the balls without permission.

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3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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I've never seen any such disclaimer in my 40 years of playing, but if your courses have them, then you'd better leave your retreiver at home.

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irons - :taylormade-small:  Speedblades 3-8, 85g stiff steel, 2 up
wedges - :edilon-small: Scor 40, 45, 50, 54, 58
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