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If you were starting a golf company (clubs, balls, apparel) from the ground up, who would you want as the face of your company?  It can be anybody, but it has to be somebody as they are today, not in their prime.  It has been said that nobody could or ever will be able to move equipment like Tiger Woods in his prime.  Are Jack and Arnold still relevant enough that they could move equipment?  Terry Koehler is betting that Ben Hogans name can. 

 

Me personally, I go with Tiger.  His name is still in lights and we HOPE that he has enough left in the tank to return and win 20 more tourneys.

 

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on who/why would move equipment today.

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First thought was Hogan, but I'm old and Ben is a hero.  He's a close second to Rory - Rory is hot and the next year or so will really tell whether he takes that leap.  No reason why  he can't - he's young, good looking, charismatic and is a playah!  Ben is a legend, and that name will always have juice with folks who follow the game - but as with anything, the product has to be worthy of the name.

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If it has to be somebody today, then I guess Ben is out.  Too bad, I could go with that.  So I choose Jack.  Yes, he and Arnie are still relevant, especially to us old guys.

 

In my mind, Tiger is too controversial, both on and off the course.  Now injury prone; no majors in over six years, and not that personable.  Rory hasn't been around long enough; maybe in a few more years.  Phil's personable, but streaky and he's not on a good streak right now.  The other guys?  Well... no.

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I'm not that old and hogan is my hero!

 

I like jack more every year. A lovely gentleman, who tells great stories and seems genuinely kind.

 

Rose and Scott for me. They aren't that young though, suppose they are my generation as well.

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If it has to be somebody today, then I guess Ben is out.  Too bad, I could go with that.  So I choose Jack.  Yes, he and Arnie are still relevant, especially to us old guys.

 

In my mind, Tiger is too controversial, both on and off the course.  Now injury prone; no majors in over six years, and not that personable.  Rory hasn't been around long enough; maybe in a few more years.  Phil's personable, but streaky and he's not on a good streak right now.  The other guys?  Well... no.

I changed my original post.  I meant somebody as they are today.......just didn't want anybody saying "Tiger Woods of 2000".

 

I think Ben Hogans name today can sell as much or more as anybody.

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Anyone who moves the needle, don't care if they are jerks or not.   Will they sell clubs or cars or hats or insurance?  That is the question.   My guess is that Bubba moves the needle more for Ping than Adam does for Titleist.   Likewise, Ricky is a needle mover who doesn't win much.   Arnold and Jack's names will do more to move real estate devopments than any of the others.

 

I just read an article about Dwayne The Rock Johnson, the focus of which dealt with his promotional savvy.  He gets roles because producers know that he will promote the crap out of whatever film he is in and he has a huge fan base overseas.  He's a needle mover.

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I chose Ricky because I want a young upstanding man to be the Face of my new golf Company.  One who has a lot of upside to his future.

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This is a tough one. I chose Rory over Tiger because of age and the way Rory approaching the game on and off the course. Like Tiger, Rory works on his game in the gym almost as much as the course. This would give you more types of things to sell besides clubs and balls.

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Okay since he's taken I'm going Rory out of the choices given here but ultimately it depends upon who I'm trying to reach.

 

BTW this is so relevant for me. We are trying to select the face of our capital campaign in our Congregation. It's not as easy as you might think. The generational issues are very real and that's in a group of 1,000. Imagine what these companies have to go through. You will all appreciate that our face to our school alumni is a swimmer who won five gold medals at the last Olympics. That's pretty cool. We picked her over two army colonels that graduated from our Day School.

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I chose Rors because of his current status and the fact that he can move gear regardless of manufacturer.  I don't think Tiger would've moved as much gear as he did if it weren't Nike.  And I chose him because he's the most talented young gun that has at least a decade left.  Plus he's humble and ladies love that accent.

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I voted Adam because my first choice is not there, yet.  Jordan

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I'm not writing Tiger off yet although his time is slowly slipping away.  He still has a huge presence in anything he does and that sells...

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I picked Arnold because he's the face of golf I grew up with.  But I'll qualify my pick by saying that among the now generation of golf I would select either Rory or Rickie.  It's a toss up as I don't think you could go wrong with either - both are great ambassadors for the sport and have carried themselves well.  

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I chose Fowler because he sells to the younger generation.  Rory doesn't seem to have a lot of personality.  TW has done a lot of things that I don't agree with and never will agree with, so he's out.  Phil has some off course baggage and I don't find him to be all that relateable.

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WOW no Phil votes!!!!

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If I were to start a company today it would be Rory and I don't think it is close. 

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It really would depend on what my company sells and the corporate culture.

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19 hours ago, THEZIPR23 said:

If I were to start a company today it would be Rory and I don't think it is close. 

I voted for Arnie, but that was before I read the OP's post and saw the whole current vs not in prime caveat.  I have to agree with you here that if I were going based on as they play today it HAS to be Rory.  Tiger already has the "TW" brand.. even if its a line within Nike.  I'd say Rory has the most upside of those mentioned which would play well with success on tour and your products being seen.  He's athletic and classic with his style choices which bodes well for mass market appeal.

Get him and a few young guys like Wolff or Hovland and you'll be off to a great start on your new company.

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Fowler no doubt. He has already carried a company on his back and has shown he can move clubs and apparel, even balls now.

If Koepka brought some personality he could be huge for a company. Finau is another guy that with a few majors could be really attractive for marketing. 

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