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Does anyone have any info on the Arccos caddie link? When is it going to come out, and what is the hold up. I love the Arccos data but I can't get comfortable with my phone in my front pocket. I also don't like to play with a watch on. I know you can play with an Iwatch as the link but I don't have an Iphone. Will any other smart watches work? I guess I could wear it on my belt like the link.
I am going out on a stretch with this one...
When we all buy new golf clubs or are in the market for a new club (testing), we head over to our local shop (Dicks Sports, Edwin Watts, PGA Superstore, etc) and request to try the clubs out in the bay with the launch monitors. Of course, how well is the new club going to compare to our existing club. In my personal experience, the employees in the shops always seem annoyed when you ask to try out clubs in the bays; more so if you are a lefty such as myself. That means they have to move the launch monitor sensor to the other side of the mat 🤬. Those of us not on tour or living in the 1% wealth do not have the ability to own a Trackman or GC Quad BUT would still like to utilize those products to test equipment and learn to gap our clubs. Do these 8 new drivers really give me 20 more yards and are much more straight than my existing driver... who knows, but the golf shop guy does not want me spending 3 hours testing all his equipment. Yet he wonders why i do not buy anything after i try one driver and dont get results. Don't be annoyed with me if i ask to try a different driver.
Here is the dream... A driving range with 2-4 bays rigged with launch monitors. Having top of the line monitors may be quite expensive but something to at least provide sufficient data to help the average or better golfer. By allowing players to learn their yardages and make adjustments will in essence speed up rounds as well. With the popularity of the technology AT the range, players would need to schedule times and pay fees for equipment use. The Arccos system is a great tool to help gap and determine club lengths BUT it takes quite a few rounds to determine all your clubs. Now i can hit 20 shots with each club and get solid data on EACH club. In addition, i can borrow or rent multiple clubs if i am in the market for a new driver, iron set, etc. IDEALLY having newly released equipment AT the range would be perfect.
My Golf Spy Community, lets make this happen!
Make this the new Top Golf or get me in touch with a Top Golf guy to integrate this!
By GolfSpy Barbajo
(3) TESTERS Announced
ARCCOS 360 w/Caddie 2.0
Wouldn't it be cool, I mean really cool, to have your own personal caddie following you around for the rest of the summer?
No, it wouldn't be Cheech Marin telling you to stop thinking immortality and starting thinking 7-iron. We're talking about ARCCOS 360 and its newly updated Caddie 2.0. ARCCOS 360 will give you an unfiltered, unforgiving look at the reality of your game, and Caddie 2.0 will help you define the moment instead of letting the moment define you.
ARCCOS believes if you allow Caddie 2.0 to be your on-course Romeo, you can avoid losing strokes due to bad decisions. It's artificial intelligence, sure, but the info is based on your game, your strengths, your weakness and can be fine tuned to the way you play.
We need THREE hardcore, dedicated and - most importantly - tech-savvy golfers to use ARCCOS 360 and Caddie 2.0 for the rest of this golf season. Consider it your own personal game-improvement case study: will analytics combined with a virtual caddie help you improve your game and shoot lower scores?
This review opportunity is open to any golfer who plays regularly on this planet (yes, that means any golfer, anywhere in the world) who also uses an iPhone (sorry Android users, Caddie 2.0 is iPhone only at this time).
How To Apply:
This review is a little different from others we've done this year. We're asking for a serious commitment to use and evaluate ARCCOS 360 and Caddie 2.0 for the remainder of the golf season. You'll need to be motivated, detail oriented and tech-savvy, so please make sure to follow the application instructions accurately and completely.
First off, you MUST apply in this thread, and ONLY in this thread. Reading this and then applying in the Blog comments section will do you no good.
Next, in this thread, please tell us the following:
1. First name
2. Home state/province and country
3. Current handicap
4. Current shot/stat tracking method - if any
We'll be announcing the testers in this thread next week, so make sure to check back to see if you've been chosen.
These three dedicated and lucky members will soon have their own personal caddie calling their shots, and best of all the caddie won't question their decision to listen to it.....Or will it....Guess we'll find out somewhere along the line
Footnote: That group may collectively have the shortest names of any test group ever!! Congratulations again guys!!
Just wanted to share my experience with Arccos after making the switch from Game Golf Live. I'm sure there have been plenty of reviews for both systems, but I've seen some misinformation floating around on how the Game Golf system works, and a lot of the Arccos reviews I've read often leave me wanting to know more than the author provided. Here goesâ€¦
I've been a Game Golf user for a few years now starting with the original GG unit and then upgrading to GG Live once it was released. I've really enjoyed being able to get a more in-depth analysis of my game without having to take a bunch of notes. However, I've long envied the variety of stats offered by Arccos over GG and the only thing keeping me from making the switch was the need to carry my phone in my front pocket. Unlike what many reviews have suggested, GG Live does not require you to carry your phone on you. In fact, you don't even have to take your phone to the course if you don't want â€“ Live works exactly the same as the original device with its own built-in GPS module and NFC tagging, but includes Bluetooth technology to make phone synchronization possible. I usually keep my phone in the cart and tag my shots only going to the phone to make minor adjustments (such as adding penalty strokes) as needed. There are many times I won't look at my phone until after the round and make all my edits immediately prior to posting.
A lot of people give GG flack for the tagging, but I've honestly found the tagging to be helpful in developing a solid pre-shot routine. Also, there's the added benefit of simply tagging a second time if you think you forgot to do it and GG has even developed some new algorithms to detect missed tags and plot them for you â€“ it's not perfect, but it's certainly a welcomed addition.
Arccos of course is a different animal entirely â€“ even though it essentially performs the same functions as Game Golf. Right out of the gate I noticed a considerable difference in the tags and I'm not talking about size, weight, or color. With exception to the putter only, all Arccos tags are indistinguishable from each other whereas GG marks each tag Dr, 3W, H, 4I, 5I, 6I, etc. and even includes some extra tags should you lose one or have extra clubs â€“ here lately I've been using them to conduct club testing. This difference in approach isn't a huge deal as far as initial setup goes and both are fairly painless as long as you follow the instructions. Where I see this becoming an issue is when regripping clubs you would either have to handle one club at a time (start to finish) or re-pair all clubs once the job is done. My solution: I marked each tag with a Sharpie on the bottom (grip) side. This means when the tags are on they look just like they always have, but when I take them out I know which club they belong to.
On the course, Arccos is easy to use, but does require some minor adjustments in the way clubs are handled. I plan to experiment and see how far I can push the limits with this, but the instructions say to carry clubs upside down from bag to ball and ball to bag. They also caution against excessive jarring of the clubs (dropping, bumping, or slamming down in frustration) to prevent an improperly tagged shot. I never experienced any problems with this, but I did have several missed tags including full shots and some putts (tap-ins mainly). I think the full shots may have been missed because some of the tags started to back out. However, these were fairly easy to correct on the fly as well as adjusting pin placement and adding penalty strokes, but I noticed I was looking at my phone quite a bit more than normal. As for the pone, I placed it in my front right pocket and moved my ball marker and repair tool to my left front pocket â€“ not a huge deal just a minor adjustment to get used to.
Post round analysis is what I was really most anxious to see and it did not disappoint (much). I have listened to podcasts and read many magazine interviews with Arccos Founder and CEO Sal Syed. He often states his commitment to providing the amateur golfer with tour level statistics and the mobile app and website are proof of that. Upon review of round stats (using the app), I can see my handicap for Driving, Approach, Chipping, Sand, and Putting which are all derived from applying the strokes gained methodology. I also get a break down of scoring, and a detailed analysis of the five previously mentioned categories and even my pace of play. I could try to describe each screen and method of analysis available, but there are so many I could literally write a small book on it. I will say this much thoughâ€¦ My one and only disappointment with the stats provided is how Arccos incorporates strokes gained. They show you which areas need the most work which is great, but I like Game Golf's use of strokes gained just slightly better. Game Golf takes a more direct approach on strokes gained and will automatically display how your performance stacks up against the average scratch golfer. Moreover, Game Golf offers a filter through which you can compare your round to a variety of handicaps (5, 10, 15, 20, & 25 to be exact). You can even compare a recent round to your personal best or a collection of rounds to another group from a year ago if so desired. The ways you can group and filter data are seemingly limitless.
Anyway, I think I've shared quite enough at this point. Like I said earlier, I know others have done extensive reviews of both systems, but just wanted to do a bit of a comparison and discuss what it's like to make the switch. Game Golf Live and Arccos 360 are both great systems and I'd recommend either of them to anyone based on how much they want to use their phone on the course and what kind of stats they want to see. Thanks for reading!!!
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