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Jordan Spieth won the Australian Open a week ago, firing a 63 on Sunday and walked away from the field. Then flew halfway around the world, stopping at Mama & Daddy's long enough to leave the trophy there, and then went to Florida and on Thursday, took a one stroke lead, and more Friday, and more Saturday, and by Sunday practically lapped the field, 16 of the World's top 30. Even a bonehead double bogey on the back 9, one of 2 over par holes of the week, only got a snicker.  He followed it with more birdies.  And no one here is talking about it.

 

Last calendar year, he won the John Deere.  "I heard, that is a weak field."  "That is an easy course."  Then this year, he has the lead on the back nine at Augusta and falters and then Bubba took the win away from him.  "He can't win."  "He plays for second place."  And the most asinine comment I ever heard, "He can't compete with Rickie Fowler."

 

Ok, that was not the most asinine.  That would be, "Reed carried him through the Ryder Cup." This is based on Graeme's come from behind win on Sunday. Once again, Spieth had one bad hole, and Graeme had three great holes. The problem in golf is as Keegan said yesterday, "The only way I could have caught him today was to body slam him."

 

Oh yeah, yesterday, I even heard, but this is an easy course, again. Are you kidding me, he set the competitive course record by several strokes and it the home course for Tiger and a bunch of other pros. If it were that easy why wasn't second place 24-25 under to his 26 under. All courses are easy when you hit the center of the fairway and put the next shot on the green and then make a putt.  Easy hole.

 

We hear all the time, so and so is the next great thing. I do not know if Spieth is the next great thing, but when you compare their first two years, Spieth is in the Tiger league, and above Rory.

 

As far as nice guys go, Rory seems as nice as Tiger's image once was, and Jordan seems even nicer.

 

Time will tell, but now is the time for you to express your thoughts. Weigh in please.

 

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Could be, he's a fine fine player.

 

Amazing win.

 

I'd be surprised if his record isn't much better than fowlers within 3 years....now he really hasn't won much (cue the fans of orange burning my effigy) and has so much talent.

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Agreed. He's been on quite the roll lately and deserves more respect. Not sure why nobody's really talking about him.

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He's so unassuming.  If you look at the sports figures people talk about, they tend to be polarizing figures.  Bubba and his huge swings, and holy roller image, Tiger because of his dad, and his race. Look at other sports, Kobe Bryant, Ron Artest, etc. 

 

Jordan Speith seems to be a genuinely nice guy, and as a rule, nice guys don't get the press.  You have to have a side that the media can sell to create conflict and polarizing views. With Jordan there doesn't seem to be much, everyone seems to like him, none is rabidly his 'fan' or 'hater'. 

 

Meanwhile, he just keeps playing better and better in his quiet fashion.

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Isleworth was indeed a very familiar course for Jordan....He played, and won there in a Collegiate event just a couple years ago.

 

I was there yesterday to watch him Lap the Field, so to speak...He didn't have to take very many chances and played a very conservative game.  Meanwhile, the Field was trying to play catch up and sometimes took chances that didn't pay off.

 

Now the question is not "Is He good?" but rather "Just how good he is...."

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Actually he set the course record there when he played in college and Patrick Reed broke it Friday. Anyhow he did "steamroll" the field and it seemed to me he made darn near every putt he stood over last week and darn near chipped everything in if he happened to miss a green. I guess the reason he is not talked about much is because he is humble and goes about his business quietly and swiftly like a man on a mission.

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He's so unassuming.  If you look at the sports figures people talk about, they tend to be polarizing figures.  Bubba and his huge swings, and holy roller image, Tiger because of his dad, and his race. Look at other sports, Kobe Bryant, Ron Artest, etc. 

 

Jordan Speith seems to be a genuinely nice guy, and as a rule, nice guys don't get the press.  You have to have a side that the media can sell to create conflict and polarizing views. With Jordan there doesn't seem to be much, everyone seems to like him, none is rabidly his 'fan' or 'hater'. 

 

Meanwhile, he just keeps playing better and better in his quiet fashion.

To summarize what Dru said...............he's really boring.

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Nah he's to long to be really boring!

 

I like players like Kuchar and Donald.....steady and calm players just work for me. Alright I like boring.

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I've got the tournaments recorded, but simply haven't even had time to look at them.  Just other things going on right now.  Obviously this kid is good and, if he keeps playing at this level, people are actually going to talk about him, no matter how nice a guy he is! ;)

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I've got the tournaments recorded, but simply haven't even had time to look at them.  Just other things going on right now.  Obviously this kid is good and, if he keeps playing at this level, people are actually going to talk about him, no matter how nice a guy he is! ;)

 

Might as well watch the whole tournament.  Jordan's highlight reel is probably longer than the weekend coverage. 31 holes or so below par and 3 over par.  Wow, how boring is that?

 

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He won a PGA event in December, not a big deal. When he plays like this in a major or WGC event I'll change my tune but for right now I think he's overrated.

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He won a PGA event in December, not a big deal. When he plays like this in a major or WGC event I'll change my tune but for right now I think he's overrated.

 

"We are sorry Mr. Spieth but this check is for a golf tournament in December so according to Mr. Theoo, it does not count." :lol:

 

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"We are sorry Mr. Spieth but this check is for a golf tournament in December so according to Mr. Theoo, it does not count." :lol:

I said it's not a big deal. Not that the win didn't count

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Now that Spieth has a full year on tour under his belt and familiar with the various courses and tour life, I expect him to be one of the Americans to win multiple times in 2015. Fowler is another.

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I have to say after watching (and rooting) for Spieth over the last 2 years, this guy is 100% one of the MOST UNDERRATED talents on the PGA tour.

 

Have we forgotten that he is 21 years old?! 

 

Some quick stats to point out...

 

2013: 18/23 cuts made. 1 win, 3 runner ups, 9 top 10's, 13 top 25's. 7th in the FedEx cup.

2014: 24/27 cuts made. 2 runner ups, 8 top 10's, 18 top 25's. 15th in the FedEx cup. 2 late season wins.

Roughly $8.3 million in earnings in 2 seasons on tour.

Currently ranked 9th in the official world golf rankings.

 

What those stats combined scream to me is SILLY consistency. I know that's not a sexy way to describe a professional golfers game, but it has made some PGA players a great career.

 

The kid demands a lot of himself, all the while being as humble as anyone, and carrying himself like a professional in a manner that some others on the tour haven't been able to achieve over much longer careers.

 

The kicker, how great is it to yell "SPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIETH" when he does well?

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Fowler had an unbelievable 2014, let's see if he can build on that.  If Spieth can have a "Fowleresque" 2015, then perhaps we're looking at two who can put some heat on Rory moving forward.  It's fun to watch, either way!

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I think the why aren't we talking about him has been pretty much covered.  He's a very good player without a lot of flair.  It's hard to be polarizing when talking about a glass of water.  Water may be the best thing for you to drink, but I'd rather have a beer most of the time.  Also as Theo pointed out PGA wins during the winter don't get as much attention.  The only reason the Hero was on most of our radar's was that it was Tiger's first tourney back.  If he wasn't in the field I don't think it would have gotten half the coverage it did get.

 

As to how good Spieth is, I think that remains to be seen.  He has a ton of talent, that's for sure.  But talent won't get you everything.  In this day and age I think it takes a win at a major to really gain that next level status.  There are so many talented guys, especially younger guys, that pretty much anyone can win on any given tournament.  Where we see the true stars come out is when there is the added mental pressure of a major, playoff event, ryder/presidents cup matches, and a few of the other bigger tourney's.  When he starts to win those we will be talking about him a lot more.

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Speith is one of several young guns out there poised to have a good year.  Rickie Fowler, however, is my #1 guy going into this year.  He joined elite company with only Tiger and Nicklaus to finish top 5 in all 4 majors in a single calendar year last year.  We saw the strides he made in year 1 working with Butch (last year was HUGE for him), and I'm betting this year is his breakout year.  Last year was the first time he's had a swing instructor since 2011 when his guy, Barry McDonnell, passed away.  I expect HUGE things to come out of Rickie this year.  And with him, Jordan and Rory, this could be a GREAT year to be a PGA tour fan.

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Fowler had an unbelievable 2014, let's see if he can build on that.  If Spieth can have a "Fowleresque" 2015, then perhaps we're looking at two who can put some heat on Rory moving forward.  It's fun to watch, either way!

 

I hope Spieth does not have a "Fowelleresque" type year because if you look at the year over all as Mr Clean has, Jordan trumps Rickie over the season and certainly the career. 

 

I have to say after watching (and rooting) for Spieth over the last 2 years, this guy is 100% one of the MOST UNDERRATED talents on the PGA tour.

 

Have we forgotten that he is 21 years old?! 

 

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2013: 18/23 cuts made. 1 win, 3 runner ups, 9 top 10's, 13 top 25's. 7th in the FedEx cup.

2014: 24/27 cuts made. 2 runner ups, 8 top 10's, 18 top 25's. 15th in the FedEx cup. 2 late season wins.

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Yep I'm sorry mr fowler will only have made it for me when he wins multiple wins in one season, so many near misses .....

 

He's clearly talented, but wins are what's remembered - times on his side but of course there's always young players coming through - Spieth for instance!

 

Also why does the Hero get world ranking points? Only 28 players who are invited.....doesn't seem quite right.

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