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I bought Mizuno JPX-825's last Summer, and I LOVE my KBS Tour shafts.  I'm in agreement with the masses here: you need to try the clubs with the shafts to feel them, and to see the shot dispersion.  I chose the KBS Tour because the dispersion was much tighter (for me) than Dynamic Gold.  (Tried Project X too, but just not for me.  Felt like swinging a 2 x 12.)

That said, Mizuno charges $0 for most of the "upgrade" shafts.  To me, it's a bait & switch when you're already going to spend $800 +/- to nick you $20-30 a stick for the proper shaft.

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I bought Mizuno JPX-825's last Summer, and I LOVE my KBS Tour shafts.  I'm in agreement with the masses here: you need to try the clubs with the shafts to feel them, and to see the shot dispersion.  I chose the KBS Tour because the dispersion was much tighter (for me) than Dynamic Gold.  (Tried Project X too, but just not for me.  Felt like swinging a 2 x 12.)

That said, Mizuno charges $0 for most of the "upgrade" shafts.  To me, it's a bait & switch when you're already going to spend $800 +/- to nick you $20-30 a stick for the proper shaft.

^^^ As I'm boxing up my MP-59's with PX 6.0's to go to my club guy for soft-stepped Aerotech 110 stiffs. LOL!^^^

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^^^ As I'm boxing up my MP-59's with PX 6.0's to go to my club guy for soft-stepped Aerotech 110 stiffs. LOL!^^^

I love the feel of my PX 5.5. I tried 6.0 for a while and couldn't get them to work well. 5.5 is money. I've enjoyedplaying KBS Tour Stiff too, but the PX won me over.

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I love the feel of my PX 5.5. I tried 6.0 for a while and couldn't get them to work well. 5.5 is money. I've enjoyedplaying KBS Tour Stiff too, but the PX won me over.

Played PX for a number of years in 6.0 and 6.5. Actually wanted C-tapers in this set at the time, but it was right before Miz started carrying them. Went with same weight/designer anyway for the shafts. PX launch high enough for me, but I think I need more spin. Their descent angle is too strong for good green holding for me anymore. I need a more defined apex to my flight, and I think the Steelfibers will do that.

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Do you take large divots? KBS shafts are known to bend for a digger.

I forgot about this thread. It's a good one since the question came back up recently. I have snapped a couple of KBSes at the tip. That was when I had a hitting bay in my house and was hitting off the mat a lot though.

 

Over the last year since moving, I have maybe gotten in four or five 9 hole rounds and one 18 hole scramble for a work event. I'm not swinging anything like I used to. I really think that unless I have the time to condition myself again, I need to take the C-Tapers out and move to R or R+ Tours, not to mention something more forgiving. I used to be very consistent at finding the center of the club. But I was hitting balls every day too. My swing feels forced now just because my muscles aren't used to stretching and moving like that anymore. Amazing what happens when you can't keep as active.

 

Anyway, good thread to resurrect about KBS vs DG.

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Get fitted. I had Wilson Staff clubs with KBS Tours and couldn't get the long irons off the ground. Now I have I20's with DG S300 shafts and the ball flight is higher than with the Wilson's and much more controllable. I guess I'm an S300 guy. In terms of feel, I don't feel the difference. I feel it in the head because I went from forged to cast but I don't feel it in the shafts at all. 

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Get fitted. I had Wilson Staff clubs with KBS Tours and couldn't get the long irons off the ground. Now I have I20's with DG S300 shafts and the ball flight is higher than with the Wilson's and much more controllable. I guess I'm an S300 guy. In terms of feel, I don't feel the difference. I feel it in the head because I went from forged to cast but I don't feel it in the shafts at all.

 

The only reason this can be is either 1. its in your head or 2. You have an early release, smooth transition and controlled downswing. That would mean that the shaft doesn't matter very much to you. The club head change is what will be your big difference as far as launch increasing. These are very different shafts. See the chart

 

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The only other possibility it that you received something that was not what it said it was. It was either labeled improperly from the ebayer or may have been tipped/hardstepped at some point and that was not disclosed.

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I prefer the feel of KBS but they don't fit me well. The stiffer tip of DG suits my needs better.

That's what got me hooked on them is the feel. They have a powerful kick.

 

I think Undershooter probably nailed it with the smooth early release suggestion. If he's not loading the shaft in the first place, it doesn't much matter what shaft he uses as long as the weight is right for him.

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I actually love the feel or kick of the KBS shaft. I gamed them for a couple of years. They are counterbalanced and felt more powerful to me.

 

HOWEVER. I learned this year that they were the reason that mishit the ball occasionally. Especially wedges. During the slower swings I would lose the feel of where the head of the club was. The funny thing was I blamed every brand of wedges that I tried. Nothing was as good as my old Vokey wedges with the leather grips stuck to the shafts. But it turned out it had little to do with the wedge and the DG wedge shaft that was in them. Because I could not remove the grips I did not change those to KBS shafts. And my distance control with those wedges was always much better.

 

Because of this I have gone back to DG shafts in my irons.

 

This helps me with my tempo and reduces mishit, especially on pressure shots.

 

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