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Just got an email from Hogan -- the HoganFit online fitting program is back up and running.  Here's the link if you want to try it...

 

http://www.benhogangolf.com/HoganFit

 

I tried it the day it was first up last month -- it's pretty thorough.  Let us know what you come up with if you give it a whirl....

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HoganFit needs some work.  

 

I input my set makeup which includes 5 SCORs (42, 46, 50, 54, and 58) and it told me that I needed 43, 47, 51, 55. and 59.  WTF!   Of course it added 4 other irons (39, 35, 31, and 27).  On the next to the last page showing the bag mapping, it said:

Shaft:  Graphite Recoil 660 F3

Flex:   R-flex

 

 

On the last page:  Here are "Your Hogans" it said:

Shaft:   KBS Tour V

Flex:   Stiff

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Well, I started it, and page one looks like a market research survey moreso than a fitting program. I didn't fill it out.

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I filled it out. The results were not surprising. I have a big gap in the wedge range between the 60 and 53. So of course it wants to go 52,56 and the eliminate something in the longer part of my bag.

 

Honestly I've considered that, make the 7 2 degrees stronger, 8 1 degree strengthen the 53 to 52 and add 56.

 

Regardless you have to take any recommendation anything makes and supply your own input. I also though it was odd that they didn't ask for the brand of my wedges, I already bag 4 SCORs but their survey didn't pick that up because of the way the questions were asked.

 

I got the recoil shaft R but normal length where my current scores are 1/2 inch over standard.

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I'm surprised, since I'm a SCOR owner, that I didn't get the email from them.

 

Maybe they saw the expression on my face at the PGA Show when I left the Srixon hitting bays ;)

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HoganFit needs some work.  

 

I input my set makeup which includes 5 SCORs (42, 46, 50, 54, and 58) and it told me that I needed 43, 47, 51, 55. and 59.  WTF!   Of course it added 4 other irons (39, 35, 31, and 27).  On the next to the last page showing the bag mapping, it said:

Shaft:  Graphite Recoil 660 F3

Flex:   R-flex

 

 

On the last page:  Here are "Your Hogans" it said:

Shaft:   KBS Tour V

Flex:   Stiff

I also bag 3 SCORS (48-53-58) plus the Nike VR Toe Sweep, and an online fit can't possibly understand why I'd intentionally have a "weird gapping," but the Nike is in the bag because it works differently than the SCORs (and I LIKE that).  I also thought their results didn't really match my actual gapping and added an iron loft that would basically match one of my hybrids.  It also seemed to "assume" the "current iron set" is fitted with stock shafts.

 

It's probably a good tool overall, as far as "online fittings" go, but it definitely has its limitations.

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Comparing my current set (2014 Tmag TP MC) with the Hogan fit recommendations, the lofts are pretty much on, with the exception of 1* stronger in the 4i and the Pw. The lie angles start out 2* flatter but end up the same at the Pw. The shaft lengths start out at 3/4" longer at the 4 and end up the same at the Pw.  

 

I'm very interested in why this is? Any of you guys know their reasoning behind building a set like this?

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I'm very interested in the clubs but NO THANK YOU to their loft recommendations. If they had it their way. I would have 62, 58, 54, 50, 46, 42, 38, 34, 30, 26, 22 to go with my 13* fairway wood. Seriously... And the shaft recommendation was awful. Kbs tour v.... Common now.

Look I'm not saying it's a bad process bc it would prolly help the majority of golfers. Just not going to work for me lol

 

With that said I still want the irons. Bad.

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My bag fitting was spot on with their recommendations overall. I just don't know why they changed my wedges by one degree. My 5-8 iron they replaced with their # equivalent and the long clubs were the same.

 

wbealsd, I also am surprised that I haven't received any email asking if I want a set. Maybe they will after this "fitting". This tells me that they can't fill orders yet, so they aren't asking. I still like them, but without trying the mid-irons and not getting some kind of SCOR break, I may just wait.

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I do not want to sound negative in any way here and if I happen to offend someone I apologize in advance. There is no way I would spend that kind of money on a set of clubs based on a "computer model" Personally I would have to be fit in person by a real human being. Off the present subject that is one of the reasons I did not pull the trigger on the Hopkins wedges and ordered my Wishon wedges and my friend and I fitted them up for me. In the past few years I have become a big proponent of proper fitting. My conjecture is that by some of your posts that some of you also have doubts on the recomendations they gave

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I do not want to sound negative in any way here and if I happen to offend someone I apologize in advance. There is no way I would spend that kind of money on a set of clubs based on a "computer model" Personally I would have to be fit in person by a real human being. Off the present subject that is one of the reasons I did not pull the trigger on the Hopkins wedges and ordered my Wishon wedges and my friend and I fitted them up for me. In the past few years I have become a big proponent of proper fitting. My conjecture is that by some of your posts that some of you also have doubts on the recomendations they gave

I know what you mean, Stu.  But from what I've been able to learn, they don't really want you to spend that kind of money without actually hitting the clubs and going through a real, live fitting either.  They've been spending the last several months putting together a network of fitters, and will start shipping demo sets out to those fitters by the end of March.  Clubs will be available for purchase sometime in April.  Their relative success will depend on how well that model works, but I can say they're committed to making that model work.

 

Been through a lot of online "fittings."  Wilson has one that's pretty good, along with just about every shaft company out there.  They are what they are -- unless you REALLY knew what you want/need, online fittings are just a starting point - at least that's the way I look at it.

 

The KBS Tour V is one of their standard shafts -- I actually changed mine to the C-Taper, because that's what I've been fit for by real people. Comparing the lofts to the last set I was fit for (Wilson FG Tour V4's) - Hogan fit basically gave me a 3.75 iron, then a 5 - PW and 3 wedges (51-55-59. Just noticed the 60* wasn't checked - don't know why it was included on the list). Their philosophy is to give us more options from 150 yards and in -- I guess that makes sense.  By comparison - the Wilson set I was fit for by their tour fitter included a 17* hybrid, a 24* utility iron (instead of a 24* 4 iron), and then 5-PW with lofts identical to the Hogans.  Wedges are 52, 56 and 60 - one degree weaker then the Hogans - so basically it's the same set, minus the hybrid. 

 

$149/club is a hell of a lot of money - I wouldn't spend that without a real live, honest to goodness fitting either. I can tell you that when it comes to feel, the Hogan's are pretty remarkable (Top 4 for me from Demo Day - with Wilson, Bridgestone, Srixon) - Theoo posted a video review in another thread, the reviewer described the feel of the club as remarkable and unique - that description is spot on. I'm nowhere near enough of an expert to get into the nuts and bolts of it, but the Hogans also seemed pretty forgiving to me, as well.  

 

I guess there are 2 larger questions:

 

1. What do you think of the philosophy of more options from 150 yards and in?   

 

2. Are you intrigued enough to demo the irons when/if they're available near you?  

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1. I agree although they are hardly the first to say it and I've already started to consider one more on the bottom end by tweeking what I currently have.

 

2. I will because I love my SCORs.

 

Adding one Hogan to the mid bottom of my bag, tweeking the Wilson's is the most likely scenario for me. I'd end up dropping my "6" iron.

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I went through it last night. They suggested 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46, 50, 54, 58. KBS Tour V in S flex. Pretty much the same lofts that I'll have with the MP-54s I just got fit for except my 5 iron will be 27*. I'll probably also have my fitter bend my 45* SCOR to 46. Really there's no difference for me in terms of 150 yards and in. It's 8 iron and less for me. Same with my Pings. I do like that they have a decent amount of shaft options. Guess we'll see if they'll be available anywhere around me in April. Still interested in trying them out.

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I don't worry about "gapping" as much at the top of my bag, as the percentage of the time we make perfect contact with the longer clubs is so much lower.

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I don't worry about "gapping" as much at the top of my bag, as the percentage of the time we make perfect contact with the longer clubs is so much lower.

My starter set was driver, spoon (3 wood), 3,5,7,9 and putter. When faced with an in between shot you almost always had to go with the loner club. It was amazing how much easier it was tI hit the ball solidly that way. As I got better I realized that if I hit fade the ball went shorter so I learned that as a way to take a little off as well.

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Yeah, I don't practice a ton, so I like to load up on wedges so I can do more full-ish swings with the wedges, which takes less practice.

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Yeah, I don't practice a ton, so I like to load up on wedges so I can do more full-ish swings with the wedges, which takes less practice.

This is why I bag GI irons. I have little blocks of practice time because I can go during lunch. I'd rather spend them chipping and putting. I've found there's a full shot benefit to practicing pitches.

 

I'm pretty serious about dropping a longer club and putting a 56 in.

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Ok. Went over and tried the Hogan Fit thing. I'll admit that based on their basic input some of the recommendations were fairly close to my custom fit specs. Fairly I said. But that's about it. I pretty much knew the Hogan app would say my set was wrong and they could recommend a better fit. For one the recommended clubs would be too long. The shaft is a huge one too. Hogan recommended an R flex of some flavor. That's fine. I do play with an R flex... an AeroTech I-80 Steel Fiber. These were selected for me through testing by my fitter in his shop. These shafts were chosen for many reasons including the proper bend profile and torque, etc., etc. My heads were all custom bent for proper/preferred loft, lies and face angle. To be honest... I don't really care too much about all the technical data. I just want performance and noticeable results. Which I got.

 

Bottom Line: I get that Hogan or anyone else selling clubs on the internet need to offer an online fitting experience. I would too. But.... I personally wouldn't purchase clubs that way. Having been through a full and complete hands on fitting; it's the only way to go in my humble experience. I will say this... I'd rather see a guy fit himself online like Hogan offers than just pull a set off the rack at a local retailer.

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