tehuti 503 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 This just arrived:Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 7 Quote Gen1 0811X 12° driver w/Project X Evenflow Blue 55g shaft KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft Z355 22° 7 wood w/Miyazaki Jinsoku shaft KE4 TC 19° 3 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft HL E521 25° 5 hybrid w/Fubuki HD55 shaft HL4 6 Ironwood w/UST for TE graphite shafts KE4 Tour+ irons 7-PW w/UST Competition Series graphite shafts CBX2 50° wedge w/Rotex shaft M-Series+ 56° wedge w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft Huntington Beach Soft Premier 10.5 Link to post Share on other sites
Rickp 20,623 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 This just arrived:Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkVery niceSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2 5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2 Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2 Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 14,624 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Grand Stranded said: I'm not trying to be a wise acre here, but isn't the idea supposed to be find the "true" sweet spot on a putter (ie. where it most resists twisting) and then try to hit the ball there? I get what you're saying, I just think it's a bit unnecessary. Do we really need it to feel the same over the entire face? It really isn't about feel; and I prefer to have different feels based on where I hit the ball on the face. The purpose of EvnRoll grooves its to make ball speed more consistent across the face. Miss heel or toe and it goes the same distance as center strikes. 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
Chip Strokes 2,359 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Grand Stranded said: I have two other putters I can't ever imagine getting rid of, the Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide (phenomenal putter) is plenty stable for when I want something different to mix it up, and my custom built Yes! Tracy has a permanent spot in my second bag I keep up on Long Island. Notice the trend? All 3 are variations of the Anser style putters... why do my eyes always wander? i love my double wide! classic shape, long alignment line, stroke lab shaft, just awesome 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grand Stranded 1,356 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, cnosil said: It really isn't about feel; and I prefer to have different feels based on where I hit the ball on the face. The purpose of EvnRoll grooves its to make ball speed more consistent across the face. Miss heel or toe and it goes the same distance as center strikes. Okay, now I get the idea behind the groove technology. My question would be does that tech really help me if I have to feel like I'm hitting my putt harder than normal to get it to the hole? I'm not comfortable debating this beyond that one question though, because I've always been one who prefers a blade putter and the ER5 is a mallet. I'll never forget when the Stroke Lab putters came out about 3 years ago. I was in a small local shop which is very highly regarded for their custom fitting work. I tried what I think was called the Sabertooth(?) version first, and I knew the fitter was looking at me and thinking "...and this guy thinks he's a decent putter?" I mean I couldn't sniff the hole, LOL. I was really embarrassed and wanted to crawl under a rock. Then I saw the Double Wide model, picked it up and started making everything. Suddenly I looked like a poor man's Brad Faxon. My point is, I'm not trying to knock Evnroll, Maybe if I'd bought a different model I'd be here singing their praises. What I can say though is the 5.0 wasn't for me. No harm, no foul though. I had a gift card and took a flyer based on the great reviews I'd read on the putter. With the 90 day playability deal I got to scratch an itch. The Newport 2.0 is like an old friend.. something I'm always comfortable having around. Edited October 21, 2020 by Grand Stranded 1 Quote Driver G400 Max 9* Alta R Fairway Rogue 15* Quaranta Hybrids Rogue X 18* & 20* Synergy R Irons PXG 2021 0211 5-GW MMT70 Wedges Vokey SM7 52F & 58-M Putter Newport 2.0 33.5" Bag Hybrid 5 or 4.0 In reserve Rogue X 23* Tracy 33.5" Link to post Share on other sites
Grand Stranded 1,356 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Grand Stranded said: EDIT Sorry, duplicate post Edited October 21, 2020 by Grand Stranded Quote Driver G400 Max 9* Alta R Fairway Rogue 15* Quaranta Hybrids Rogue X 18* & 20* Synergy R Irons PXG 2021 0211 5-GW MMT70 Wedges Vokey SM7 52F & 58-M Putter Newport 2.0 33.5" Bag Hybrid 5 or 4.0 In reserve Rogue X 23* Tracy 33.5" Link to post Share on other sites
rkj427 233 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Rickp said: You could have a case of “putteritis”. It’s very catchy and hurts mostly your checkbook. No known cure, I’ve been looking for a cure for years, actually decades! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Wonder if that is contagious and infects other's quickly......................... made a deal on this and have it heading my way to see if it can kick my older SC Newport 2 Notchback out of the bag.............. at least I will have all the "off season" here to play around and practice with both of them, before making a final decision, so it won't be a hasty decision 7 Quote Driver & Fairway: Titleist TS3 9.5 & 15 - Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 Hybrid: Titleist 818H2 - Tensei Blue 70S Irons: Titleist T100 4 - P Project X 5.0 Wedges: Vokey SM7 50, 54, and 60 Putter: Cameron 2012 Select Newport Notchback Ball: 2013 Model Pro V1X Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 14,624 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Grand Stranded said: Okay, now I get the idea behind the groove technology. My question would be does that tech really help me if I have to feel like I'm hitting my putt harder than normal to get it to the hole? I'm not comfortable debating this beyond that one question though, because I've always been one who prefers a blade putter and the ER5 is a mallet. Not looking for a debate either; just stating how the groove design works. EvnRoll does have blades, but when it comes to any golf club you have to figure out what works for you. You have developed a particular "feel" for distance control and any putter that changes that will probably give you the same impression. If you don't want to change then no EvnRoll putter will work for you. Speed control isn't just about blade vs. mallet so the need to change your stroke length could happen with any putter you pick up. 7 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
Rickp 20,623 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Wonder if that is contagious and infects other's quickly......................... made a deal on this and have it heading my way to see if it can kick my older SC Newport 2 Notchback out of the bag.............. at least I will have all the "off season" here to play around and practice with both of them, before making a final decision, so it won't be a hasty decision Yup, you got it!! It is contagious Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 3 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2 5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2 Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2 Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to post Share on other sites
Tsmithjr9 1,709 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Bought these new Nike's spikeless. They look sharp and I've always loved the red. I just got rid of my Adidas Tour360s and replaced them with these. I couldn't walk 18 without getting blisters on the back of my ankles/heels. Super disappointed as I was an Adidas guy back to the OG 360s.Take Dead Aim 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GolfSpy_THV 584 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Got fitted into a Ping G410 LST @ 10.5* w/ Evenflow Black 65 6.0 shaft today. Started dropping bombs over 300yds once it was dialed in 7 Quote In my Hoofer: G410 LST 10.5* - Evenflow Black 65 6.0 Eye 2 Persimmon 3 Wood D7 4-GW, KBS 105 Glide 2.0 Stealth 54.12 SS & 58.10 SS Zing 2 LW - 60* Anser 2 Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 14,624 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Ordered the 11 iron for my new Honma irons to fill the gap between 10 and 54*. Had to go through Homna sales to get them to generate an invoice since you cannot order single irons online. Great service as they had the invoice generated in 24 hours and indicated it would take about a week. 9 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Grand Stranded 1,356 Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, cnosil said: Not looking for a debate either; just stating how the groove design works. EvnRoll does have blades, but when it comes to any golf club you have to figure out what works for you. You have developed a particular "feel" for distance control and any putter that changes that will probably give you the same impression. If you don't want to change then no EvnRoll putter will work for you. Speed control isn't just about blade vs. mallet so the need to change your stroke length could happen with any putter you pick up. Thanks, you explained that really well. That's why I didn't want to disagree with you earlier. I know how much experience you have testing different clubs, and your understanding of what effects design has on them blows mine away. BTW I really appreciate that you take the time to reply to a lot of my posts and offer not only your opinion, but as much advice as you do. 10 Quote Driver G400 Max 9* Alta R Fairway Rogue 15* Quaranta Hybrids Rogue X 18* & 20* Synergy R Irons PXG 2021 0211 5-GW MMT70 Wedges Vokey SM7 52F & 58-M Putter Newport 2.0 33.5" Bag Hybrid 5 or 4.0 In reserve Rogue X 23* Tracy 33.5" Link to post Share on other sites
xOldBenKenobiX 3,632 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 12 hours ago, rkj427 said: Wonder if that is contagious and infects other's quickly......................... made a deal on this and have it heading my way to see if it can kick my older SC Newport 2 Notchback out of the bag.............. at least I will have all the "off season" here to play around and practice with both of them, before making a final decision, so it won't be a hasty decision That is a nice putter, a couple of months back I saw one on FB for 180 bucks, we were out of town, I contacted the seller showing interest, but by the time we were back home it was sold. Just like yours, his looked super clean and well taken care of. 2 Quote 2020 Bag Boy Chiller Cart Bag Official tester MGS Hard Rock Challenge 100 swings challenge MGS Fantasy football league Unofficial - Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme Unofficial Review - Honma TR21 4 Wood by xOldBenKenobiX Instagram tagging contest Crew Drivers - TS2 10.5*, Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme 10.5, UST helium 5 Woods TS2 3HL. TR21 4 Wood, Vizard 20-60 shaft. Hybrid - T-MB 716 3 Iron, Hybrid - T-MB 718 4 Iron, Irons: - AP1 714 5 to PW, Wedges: SM4 48*, Oil Can 52*, SM5 56* and SM6 58*, Putter: Deadcenter SP-209, Ball: ProV1, Smart Sensors Shoes: a couple A couple of A couple of Adidas , Yeah I have a shoe addiction. Right Handed, Southeast Michigan Honk If you see these plates around. I'm always driving around Michigan. The Ohio and Pennsylvania's turnpike as well as around Baltimore, Maryland. Grip it and rip it my friends. Link to post Share on other sites
Lacassem 8,052 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Is work over yet?! I need to turn alerts off! 9 Quote Follow my overall Vegan transition here Check out my reviews G710 Irons Lacassem official review FlexTech is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by : TS2 9.5 - Project X HZRDUS Green SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green 2H VST - Super Idea S Matrix Kujoh S-Flex 2019 P790 4-PW - Project X 6.5 LZ 52, 56, 60 SM7 - Nippon Modus 125 O-Works 1W PROV1X #19 Bushnell Tour V3 Jolt Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to post Share on other sites
Golfspy_CG2 25,107 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 22 hours ago, djahubes said: Really don’t need much to convince me to get the newest shiny object. It’s truly an addiction!! Ask CG2 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yeah. I do know a thing or two about that! 4 2 Quote TSi2 Kuro Kage 50g R Flex TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K Heppler Tomcast ProV1X Play number 12 Link to post Share on other sites
cksurfdude 7,923 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 10:20 AM, chisag said: ... Obviously the Pros have higher swing speeds but if most golfers saw just how high they hit the ball on tour, they would be pretty amazed. Yeah not the topic of this thread but just to corraborate what he said - I attended the Barclays at Bethpage Black a few years ago, and my buddy and I walked all over the (very long!) course to watch different players at different holes - and I can fully attest to the fact that the pros' drives are literally sky-high! That and the *CRACK * off the club face .. and seeing what they could carry off the tee .. really are impressive 4 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 3W/HL (17*) and EXS 7W (both Tensei CK Blue) ..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR) ..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite) ..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour) ..all in a Datrek Hybrid bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push cart. Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator Link to post Share on other sites
cksurfdude 7,923 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 5:52 PM, THEZIPR23 said: Careful with smash factor. Obviously you saw improvement so the point is moot, but OEM's are tricking LM's with shapes and colors to increase smash. Huh... Thought smash was a calculated result using swing speed and ball speed was inputs? Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 3W/HL (17*) and EXS 7W (both Tensei CK Blue) ..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR) ..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite) ..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour) ..all in a Datrek Hybrid bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push cart. Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator Link to post Share on other sites
yungkory 9,395 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: Huh... Thought smash was a calculated result using swing speed and ball speed was inputs? To my knowledge, LMs use the ball speed to estimate smash, with GCQuad being an exception because it can actually track clubhead speed? So ball speed is the input, smash is estimated or assumed based on the club you tell the LM you're hitting, and therefore it can calculate what your SS "should be". So for example, this guy hit his driver and ball speed was 150, smash is preset at 1.45, therefore swing speed was calculated at 103ish. It's one of the issues I have with my local pro shops because they use a fixed smash on their GC4 (I don't even know if they pay for the extra cameras to make it a quad) and trick people into distance gains. Maybe trackman can also measure CHS because it's further behind the player, and also a more advanced radar? Not sure how that doppler tech works 4 Quote Driver: SIM Max 10.5 Fujikura Motore X F3 5S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue 75S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: JPX 919 Forged Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50 Mid | 54 Full S-grind | 58 Low Relief Grind Nippon Modus 115 Wedge Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1, 34.5", BGT Stability Tour, 71* lie angle, Press II 3* Grip | ER5 BGT Stability Tour Ball: Tour B X Link to post Share on other sites
Rickp 20,623 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 To my knowledge, LMs use the ball speed to estimate smash, with GCQuad being an exception because it can actually track clubhead speed? So ball speed is the input, smash is estimated or assumed based on the club you tell the LM you're hitting, and therefore it can calculate what your SS "should be". So for example, this guy hit his driver and ball speed was 150, smash is preset at 1.45, therefore swing speed was calculated at 103ish. It's one of the issues I have with my local pro shops because they use a fixed smash on their GC4 (I don't even know if they pay for the extra cameras to make it a quad) and trick people into distance gains. Maybe trackman can also measure CHS because it's further behind the player, and also a more advanced radar? Not sure how that doppler tech worksI’ve been suspect of some of the results I’ve been given by LM’s in Golf Shops. I don’t know enough about the current Technology to challenge any of the results.One in session in particular a few years was definitely bogus.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2 5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2 Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2 Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to post Share on other sites
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