What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)

[chisag]

1 hour ago, KOG said:

I know what you mean, but also, how many putter companies are using Karsten Solheim's Anser design? All of them I think. Interesting how that is fully acceptable. Fang, the #9, 8802 wide blade anser....all are kinda clones passed around the industry. I certainly dont support counterfits that are trying to trick people but if they dont steal the other company's name, I dont see an issue with similar designs that differentiate themselves and use a different company name. 

 

... Ping let their patent expire so the Anser was fair game. But letting common sense be our guide, there is almost always a difference between a legit manufacturer making a product similar to others as well as their own unique designs and a company just making a copy of a successful product without any research or unique products of their own. So a legit OEM making a similar putter with just a few tweaks to differentiate it from the "original" is just capitalism. But when a company most of us have never heard of makes a product as similar as possible to the original hoping someone may be trying to trick people into thinking it is the original OR trick them into thinking it is just as good as the original at a much cheaper cost I think most of us would call that a difference. 

... If someone copies say my EvnRoll putter in shape only and without the face roll technology or the strategically placed and different size weights (shown below) most everything about that putter can be vastly inferior from the metal used to the weighting and weight distribution as well as the balance. While there are plenty of over priced products that may or may not be worth the price, I do think in the end with not just inexpensive but cheap copies, you get what you pay for. 

... MGS's John Barba wrote an informative article on the Anser:

https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/historys-mysteries-the-ping-anser/

[Donn lost in San Diego]

9 hours ago, bama no 1 said:

So true about the fakes looking so much like the OEM.  Unfortunately,  I bought a fake club with what I thought was a premium shaft.  The shaft broke after 3 months.   I wont buy a used club now unless it is by an OEM like Callaway pre-owed if I want to buy one.

On the other side of the coin,  are OEM charging  more because they know that we will buy new clubs at the price they are selling them at?  For me I dont buy new drivers anymore, i wait about two years and hope I can find one at the aforementioned vendor.

Callaway Pre owned is maybe the best source for used, and occasionally great price on new old stock.  I bot a new 3 or 4 yr vintage 3 wood for $80 a few yrs ago.  Pre inflation. 

[Josh Parker]

4 hours ago, Donn lost in San Diego said:

Callaway Pre owned is maybe the best source for used, and occasionally great price on new old stock.  I bot a new 3 or 4 yr vintage 3 wood for $80 a few yrs ago.  Pre inflation. 

I agree on this.  They are probably one of the best places for used and they are always having additional sales.

[Bang60]

20 hours ago, JAYER38 said:

WELLLLL I tried TEMU for the first time so we shall see how this goes.... Knockoff L.A.B. Mezz

Plan is to check the lie angle, weights, and placement of them. Would be cool if I could find a Revealer to throw it in to see the results. Will post when it arrives! Pretty excited honestly

  

Well as far as copies knockoff clubs etc imho as I’m a poor pensioner so I buy used clubs, 20 years ago I bought a copy callaway 9iron and it was absolute rubbish so I’ve not bought anything else until this week my wife buys lots on temu and I bought some plastic T’s plus gloves and a kick scooter $79 so when it arrives if it’s useable I’ll be surprised and will tell you bought the scooter because I’ve seen this old guy riding around on a kick push scooter and he said it’s good exercise so I want to try one without spending much money  

[ChiefMikeOfficer]

23 hours ago, JAYER38 said:

  

 

11 hours ago, KOG said:

I know what you mean, but also, how many putter companies are using Karsten Solheim's Anser design? All of them I think. Interesting how that is fully acceptable. Fang, the #9, 8802 wide blade anser....all are kinda clones passed around the industry. I certainly dont support counterfits that are trying to trick people but if they dont steal the other company's name, I dont see an issue with similar designs that differentiate themselves and use a different company name. 

 

8 hours ago, chisag said:

... Ping let their patent expire so the Anser was fair game. But letting common sense be our guide, there is almost always a difference between a legit manufacturer making a product similar to others as well as their own unique designs and a company just making a copy of a successful product without any research or unique products of their own. So a legit OEM making a similar putter with just a few tweaks to differentiate it from the "original" is just capitalism. But when a company most of us have never heard of makes a product as similar as possible to the original hoping someone may be trying to trick people into thinking it is the original OR trick them into thinking it is just as good as the original at a much cheaper cost I think most of us would call that a difference. 

... If someone copies say my EvnRoll putter in shape only and without the face roll technology or the strategically placed and different size weights (shown below) most everything about that putter can be vastly inferior from the metal used to the weighting and weight distribution as well as the balance. While there are plenty of over priced products that may or may not be worth the price, I do think in the end with not just inexpensive but cheap copies, you get what you pay for. 
 

I did drop a joke on this earlier, but came back to put in my actual opinion -- looks like some have already shared similar things. LAB is not the first company to make a center-shafted mallet. They're also not the first (I don't think?) to make a center-shafted fang-style mallet. Same with the Link - back in the early 00s, I had a Sub30 that was in that exact style, with their proprietary face insert (and no weights on the bottom). Maybe the DF is a different story with design, but Mezz and Link "style" is somewhat fair game to copy and make cheap. Even the more "mainstream" brands have done this type of stuff in the past -- at least "back in my day" (I'm 40 now, I can say it), you could walk into a golf store, and you had the big expensive brands on one end, and on the other you had the less popular, cheaper brands that offered products that looked incredibly similar (then there were the even cheaper no-name brands that were clearly copies with different names -- but they were available off-the-rack at legit retailers. It reminds me of Golfsmith's club building catalog, which had quite a few options that were strikingly similar to mainstream models, but you knew they were not the real thing). From some quick searches, Tour Model is a good example of this (and I think one of the brands I remember seeing all over the place). 

I don't support clubs like this and would never buy one, and do expect them to be inferior in terms of performance, but also don't care as much that there's some company selling what's clearly just a "cheap looks like" model rather than trying to dupe someone into thinking they got the real thing. This one is clear with both the logo and the face (LAB doesn't change the face color). Someone that's watching you set up to a putt might think you have a LAB, but the buyer would (or at least should) know that this is not real, so I don't see much of an issue with it (personally, I'd never buy it or use it, and would prefer these things didn't exist, but as long as it's clear, it's fine). 

Where I start to disagree completely is a two different areas, but neither of them apply here:

• Counterfeits. If it was a direct copy with logos and everything, trying to dupe someone into thinking they bought the real thing, that's a problem. This comes up on eBay, and is a reason I steer clear of sites like eBay and Amazon when trying to buy golf gear (was burned by fake Golf Pride grips on eBay one time, confirmed by a rep at Golf Pride; on Amazon, once got a Callaway Apparel rain jacket that had some red flags, but it was around the time that Callaway Apparel changed ownership and actually shipped in from Europe, so couldn't confirm whether it was real or find any archived designs to compare - might have been a legit EU release). Something I really appreciate about a company like Golf Pride and Graphite Design is that they know this is an issue for them, and they post examples of what to watch for: https://www.golfpride.com/blog/counterfeit-grips-how-to-identify-avoid-them/   and   https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/counterfeit-shaft-warning-2/
• Patents. If they are actually copying patented technology and not just looks, that's a problem. It might not be a problem for Temu producing them in China, but I just don't agree with it as a golfer, and it becomes more of a problem selling it in the US market. But...LAB doesn't have patents on the Mezz. Their patents are on an elliptical grip and a self-balancing putter. The Mezz design appears to be fair game. https://labgolf.com/pages/patents

 

[RyanGi]

Kinda stoked about this, but limited room…gotta make it work though, right? BirdieBall. Kinda different that I thought it would be, but it rolls like a real green!

[Rob Person]

I bought the iron covers today

 

 

[Bang60]

I bought a Mizuno demo 923 HM 7iron right hand and received a left hand, received my refund today so I can look for another buy wasted 4 weeks shipping from usa to nz nice looking club that I’m using as a work in progress means I need to remove the adapter from the hosel and fit a standard shaft, not sure how that will happen because I’ve not found anyone who’s done this and Mizuno won’t say anything maybe someone can on here can help?

[cnosil]

6 hours ago, Bang60 said:

nice looking club that I’m using as a work in progress means I need to remove the adapter from the hosel and fit a standard shaft, not sure how that will happen because I’ve not found anyone who’s done this and Mizuno won’t say anything maybe someone can on here can help?

I don’t understand what you are trying to do.  I am guessing that it is a demo club with an adapter to switch shafts.   IF you have the adapter why not just install the new shaft in the adapter?   If you want to remove the adapter or don’t have it my guess is that the hosel has been bored out and won’t fit a standard shaft without some kind of shim.  Photos would be helpful  

[GolfSpy_APH]

11 hours ago, Rob Person said:

I bought the iron covers today

 

 

Gotta protect the paint job on the Sticks irons!

[RaRa Golf]

11 hours ago, Rob Person said:

I bought the iron covers today

 

 

I did the exact same thing yesterday.... COPY CAT!

[KurtActual]

11 hours ago, RyanGi said:

Kinda stoked about this, but limited room…gotta make it work though, right? BirdieBall. Kinda different that I thought it would be, but it rolls like a real green!

 

I hope thats not the commode at the end of the green. 

[Josh Parker]

6 hours ago, Bang60 said:

I bought a Mizuno demo 923 HM 7iron right hand and received a left hand, received my refund today so I can look for another buy wasted 4 weeks shipping from usa to nz nice looking club that I’m using as a work in progress means I need to remove the adapter from the hosel and fit a standard shaft, not sure how that will happen because I’ve not found anyone who’s done this and Mizuno won’t say anything maybe someone can on here can help?

Can you throw up some photos on here so we can see what you are trying to do?

38 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I don’t understand what you are trying to do.  I am guessing that it is a demo club with an adapter to switch shafts.   IF you have the adapter why not just install the new shaft in the adapter?   If you want to remove the adapter or don’t have it my guess is that the hosel has been bored out and won’t fit a standard shaft without some kind of shim.  Photos would be helpful  

 

[Jmikecpa]

In today’s episode of my daughter is spoiled I got her two new wedges to pretty much complete her bag makeover. Was able to find two brand new left handed ladies CBX wedges like new in plastic for just over $100 shipped. Not sure she really needs a 60* wedge but the time to buy is when you find it when it comes to clubs for her. All in her bag is completely made over for right around $1000 and has some pretty good gear in it. Only thing left is a new flat stick but that should be easier to find. 

[Rob Person]

40 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Gotta protect the paint job on the Sticks irons!

A little late!   

[Erin B]

Hi guys!!! Wanted to give you an update on the cobra dark speed. There’s ZERO buyer’s remorse! I did put a Mitsubishi MMT Xstiff 70gram shaft it her though. I also have a Steadfast Xstiff shaft for her, and took an inch off the UST LINQ white stiff shaft. So far the MMT is working. I’m really liking the shaft and the 70 grams instead of the 60 grams. I hit a drive yesterday, bad back and all, through the fairway and ended up 297 yards. Now, I didn’t want to hit it that far, but I’m not gonna complain about that kind of distance in fall golf where the temp is in the 40s and my back isn’t 100%. The rest of the drives averaged 260 and I’m fine with that. Some were longer, some shorter. I’m also getting my irons re-shafted after NJ to KBS C taper lite. My 5 iron already has that shaft and although I like the Project X IO shaft, I like the C taper more. Ball goes a little higher and the shaft is a little lighter. Maybe next set of irons I’ll go with graphite again. Love playing around with things!!!

[Erin B]

12 hours ago, Coulter said:

I’ve been filming my range sessions lately but through the rapsodo app and it is a HUGE pain to export the video without the rapsodo info all over the screen. The only way I’ve been able to get decent videos is to screen record so I don’t see my numbers and part of the frame cut off. 
I’m thinking I’m going to have to start filming either the entire session outside the rapsodo app somehow or just get my old phone and record (which would be super weird since I have to use my current phone in conjunction with the rapsodo)

 

I’ve been thinking about doing this. I have a tripod and my Apple phone is really good at filming. I bought the tripod from Walmart pretty cheap. It’s also a selfie stick. @Puente37 and I may start doing this in sim sessions this winter. I think it would be fun. He’s left handed and I’m right handed so that would be cool. Next season I want to add this type content to my articles. That would be cool I think.

[RaRa Golf]

My iron headcovers came in. 

Obvious but decent feeling faux leather with a subtle colour-shift on the large print numbers. 

They are a lot bigger than I thought they would be, but they are light, and skinny, so they shouldn't create too much clutter in the bag. 

They are also magnetic closure vs. Velcro, although the magnets leave a lot to be desired.

They do fit nice a snug, so even with weak magnets they should stay in place. 

For $26 Canadian I have no complaints. 

 

[bama no 1]

3 hours ago, RaRa Golf said:

My iron headcovers came in. 

Obvious but decent feeling faux leather with a subtle colour-shift on the large print numbers. 

They are a lot bigger than I thought they would be, but they are light, and skinny, so they shouldn't create too much clutter in the bag. 

They are also magnetic closure vs. Velcro, although the magnets leave a lot to be desired.

They do fit nice a snug, so even with weak magnets they should stay in place. 

For $26 Canadian I have no complaints. 

 

quite the background.

[RaRa Golf]

1 hour ago, bama no 1 said:

quite the background.

That's Wolfie, he's motion activated, and was cheaper than a security system

[sirchunksalot]

We got off work early today so I made a quick stop by DSG and picked up another 4 dozen MaxFli Tour balls. I was hoping to be able to put some in play today but it decided to be rainy today. 

[Bang60]

12 hours ago, cnosil said:

I don’t understand what you are trying to do.  I am guessing that it is a demo club with an adapter to switch shafts.   IF you have the adapter why not just install the new shaft in the adapter?   If you want to remove the adapter or don’t have it my guess is that the hosel has been bored out and won’t fit a standard shaft without some kind of shim.  Photos would be helpful  

Ok looking at the photo you can see the adapter in the hosel which I want to remove and fit a shaft, I can see the hosel is bored out for the adapter but I’m hoping that once removed I can fit a shaft using a Shim I’ve used shims before but not with such big hole but as this shaft is left hand if I stuff it and it finishes in the bin I don’t care it an experiment that I’m trying because I can’t buy the adapters

[cnosil]

25 minutes ago, Bang60 said:

Ok looking at the photo you can see the adapter in the hosel which I want to remove and fit a shaft, I can see the hosel is bored out for the adapter but I’m hoping that once removed I can fit a shaft using a Shim I’ve used shims before but not with such big hole but as this shaft is left hand if I stuff it and it finishes in the bin I don’t care it an experiment that I’m trying because I can’t buy the adapters

I’d guess it is epoxied in the hosel.  Going to have to GW edge something in there, heat the hosel and pull the adapter.  Kind of like pulling a shaft that broke off below the end of the hosel.  

[Bang60]

5 hours ago, cnosil said:

I’d guess it is epoxied in the hosel.  Going to have to GW edge something in there, heat the hosel and pull the adapter.  Kind of like pulling a shaft that broke off below the end of the hosel.  

Yeah agree with epoxy, I’m hoping I’ve got big screw I can try to grab the adapter in that bottom cavity heat and draw it out if the weather is fine tomorrow I’ll give it a shot. Wish me luck  

[Bang60]

18 hours ago, cnosil said:

I don’t understand what you are trying to do.  I am guessing that it is a demo club with an adapter to switch shafts.  

Sorry missed this before, I bought Demo irons because I wanted to try different Mizuno heads and it’s the most efficient way of using one shaft with multiple heads. Plus it’s cheaper this way using one shaft with 6-7 heads, I’d hoped I could find the Mizuno iron adapters but so far not much luck except I’ve got 3 different heads and only one shaft but I’ll keep looking  

[Green4Spinach]

This showed up this morning. Got it for my wife.

[Green4Spinach]

3 hours ago, Green4Spinach said:

This showed up this morning. Got it for my wife.

I was looking for a practice putter and ended up acquiring a little bit of history. A Rife 2 Bar Hybrid Blade. I so liked it that I took it with me on a road trip to the Montgomerie course at Celtic Manor in Wales. My gamer Odyssey might be staying by the practice mat for a bit after I ended up holing two 20+ foot putts - usually a three putt for me...

Of course, I also switched grips to a saw type grip. Was it the Rife? Was it the changed grip? Me? I'm not complaining.

[Paul Hedrick]

When I first started playing seriously, I tended to more conservative golf clothes.  Not so much anymore!  LOL!  I just bought three polos from a company called Obnoxious Golf.  I figure if I cannot play well, at least I can dress well!  

[Gravenor]

On 10/31/2024 at 4:07 AM, chisag said:

 

... Ping let their patent expire so the Anser was fair game. But letting common sense be our guide, there is almost always a difference between a legit manufacturer making a product similar to others as well as their own unique designs and a company just making a copy of a successful product without any research or unique products of their own. So a legit OEM making a similar putter with just a few tweaks to differentiate it from the "original" is just capitalism. But when a company most of us have never heard of makes a product as similar as possible to the original hoping someone may be trying to trick people into thinking it is the original OR trick them into thinking it is just as good as the original at a much cheaper cost I think most of us would call that a difference. 

... If someone copies say my EvnRoll putter in shape only and without the face roll technology or the strategically placed and different size weights (shown below) most everything about that putter can be vastly inferior from the metal used to the weighting and weight distribution as well as the balance. While there are plenty of over priced products that may or may not be worth the price, I do think in the end with not just inexpensive but cheap copies, you get what you pay for. 

... MGS's John Barba wrote an informative article on the Anser:

https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/historys-mysteries-the-ping-anser/

That putter is stunning... 

[Bang60]

4 hours ago, Green4Spinach said:

This showed up this morning. Got it for my wife.

Best keep her indoors happy wise man…