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Been reading various posts this morning both old and new. I still hear guys discussing how they "work" the ball. And many times it's from a higher Hcp. player. No offence... just saying. Again, I'm kind of calling BS on that claim from most guys. You know who you are. LOL. Now I'm also not saying some of you aren't able to "work" the ball. I know a couple of very good players/friends that actually can produce a certain shot shape (work the ball) on demand. I'm just not one of them because I'm not in the Very Good Player category. Working the ball is a cool sounding phrase to toss about when describing one's game. "Hey Plaid you can sure Work the ball". No I can't... well rarely anyway. I normally play a slight draw these days. If need be I can hit more or less draw but that's about it. In fact I can hardly cut or fade the ball anymore. Further, I don't believe that many Tour Pros can "work the ball" either. Just watch them next time they're on TV.

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I don't know about the "work the ball" phrase (always sounded weird to me), but I do like to shape shots to suit the target.

 

Not just left/right, but I think high/low as well.

 

Does it always work? Hell no. Probably costs me a few strokes a round, but it's part of what I enjoy.

 

I did play with an older guy yesterday who was surprisingly good. He only hit a draw. I finally asked why, and his answer was "that's what I'm good at".

 

I shot an 84, he shot 71...

 

 

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I can work the ball both ways. Nice hooks into hazards and slices to even out my round. I can do these at will... And without a thought. I'm an equal opportunity bad Golfer...

 

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Nope, nor do I try. Only worried about good contact now.

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I don't know about the "work the ball" phrase (always sounded weird to me), but I do like to shape shots to suit the target.

 

Not just left/right, but I think high/low as well.

 

Does it always work? Hell no. Probably costs me a few strokes a round, but it's part of what I enjoy.

 

I did play with an older guy yesterday who was surprisingly good. He only hit a draw. I finally asked why, and his answer was "that's what I'm good at".

 

I shot an 84, he shot 71...

 

 

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I think I am like you,  I try to shape the ball some when I am on the course and often I am not successful.  I need to just stick to my normal shot shape.  

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Been reading various posts this morning both old and new. I still hear guys discussing how they "work" the ball. And many times it's from a higher Hcp. player. No offence... just saying. Again, I'm kind of calling BS on that claim from most guys. You know who you are. LOL. Now I'm also not saying some of you aren't able to "work" the ball. I know a couple of very good players/friends that actually can produce a certain shot shape (work the ball) on demand. I'm just not one of them because I'm not in the Very Good Player category. Working the ball is a cool sounding phrase to toss about when describing one's game. "Hey Plaid you can sure Work the ball". No I can't... well rarely anyway. I normally play a slight draw these days. If need be I can hit more or less draw but that's about it. In fact I can hardly cut or fade the ball anymore. Further, I don't believe that many Tour Pros can "work the ball" either. Just watch them next time they're on TV.

My PJ... you sure went digging for this thread.  I had a shot yesterday where I just missed the fairway by a little; not much, but I had to hit a slight draw around a tree to head toward the green.  My typical shot is fairly straight, maybe a slight fade.  I am just not that good hitting a draw with my Ping i20's; fades yes, draws no.  It's what I miss not having my MacGregors with me on this trip.  I may not be able to hit the exact draw I need for a shot with them, but I can hit them right-to-left somewhat.  Fades are always easy.

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Been reading various posts this morning both old and new. I still hear guys discussing how they "work" the ball. And many times it's from a higher Hcp. player. No offence... just saying. Again, I'm kind of calling BS on that claim from most guys. You know who you are. LOL. Now I'm also not saying some of you aren't able to "work" the ball. I know a couple of very good players/friends that actually can produce a certain shot shape (work the ball) on demand. I'm just not one of them because I'm not in the Very Good Player category. Working the ball is a cool sounding phrase to toss about when describing one's game. "Hey Plaid you can sure Work the ball". No I can't... well rarely anyway. I normally play a slight draw these days. If need be I can hit more or less draw but that's about it. In fact I can hardly cut or fade the ball anymore. Further, I don't believe that many Tour Pros can "work the ball" either. Just watch them next time they're on TV.

I think that most touring pros can work the ball just fine. The question is can they under pressure at a key moment in a tournament. On the driving range they are hitting any shot that you dial up for them,

 

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My first golf instructor believed participating in philosophical debate about the game had the potential to make you into a better player. During range sessions he would pose questions that had nothing to do with the bio-mechanics of my golf swing. One of his questions, "Does the ball work for you or do you work for the ball?". I quickly quipped, "The ball works for me". His wise reply, "Maybe someday, BK". At that point in my development I was 16 with 2 years of serious practice under my belt, hitting 16 greens a round, grinding to break 80 and instantly cognizant of how much I had showed my ass by thoughtlessly contending that the ball worked for me.

 

I would come to learn the only people honestly claiming the ball works for them can then immediately reproduce the Johnny Miller shot control grid (low-mid-high: fade, straight, draw) dead solid perfect, over and over again. And almost nobody can honestly claim it. Bubba Watson is virtually the only modern player that does it day in and day out. That is said begrudgingly because I don't particularly care for the guy. Even on tour, most of those cats play will not fight whatever they are "working" with on tournament days. The majority of PGA Tour players have developed square path to plane swings with the goal of imparting zero side spin. Let's take a step back and ponder why the most athletically gifted golfers in the world after a lifetime of specific hand-eye development are just hoping to hit the ball straight? The answer is simple. Mere mortals that juggle modern time constraints and concurrently possess the quiet mind, natural ability, earned experience and supreme target commitment required to truly claim they have the ball working for them, are enigmas.

 

Technological innovations in golf equipment have given us many things for which to be thankful. As some of the other posters in this thread have correctly alluded, the ability to "work the ball" is not one of them. Game improvement product innovations have turned the clanky, weak, wiped, right, high toe miss off a traditional forged blade and turned it into a geared, hollow, cast, paint filled, expertly marketed high draw. The result is multitude of golfers with no idea how uncomfortably close to the hosel the true sweet spot actually resides. It is futile to think you can mush an auto-corrected toe draw out there time after time and then expect striking the same club in the same spot on the toe would ever produce a solid fade. So unless you're collecting the ball in the center of the face, every single time, the ball will never truly work for you. Because if the ball is not struck solidly you have no control over trajectory, which translates into little control over distance and that's before we ever get into turning it left or right on command.

 

When I started this reply I had no intention of writing the preceding but the more I thought about my answer the more it seemed necessary. And for those of you who actually took the time to read through all this, I wish I had a better personal answer to share. But all I can honestly claim are good reasons for rarely teeing it up in the middle of the box and painful awareness that less than perfect lies on the rest of the golf course are very unforgiving when it comes to creativity.

 

So I don't want to thread jack, but the more pertinent question for most golfers is "Do you work your equipment or does your equipment work you?" or perhaps more poignantly phrased "What is your equipment hiding?"
 

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I work the ball.....usually in the opposite direction of where I'm intending.

 

 

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I like to stick with my stock shot. I suck at fades so I don't try them. The most you'll see me do is probably hit a lower ball flight into wind but it'll almost always have at least a little right to left movement if I struck it well.

 

 

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I have a 30 yard fade I can work around a dogleg to the right. But, if the hole is straight I'm in trouble. Wait, my friend just told me that's a slice. My bad!

 

I am learning to follow through and this past Sunday I had a few straight drives with a couple of those pulled to the left. I was happy with my progress.

 

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My go to is a right to left shot, however like some people already stated it really depends on the day whether I can move it both ways. If I feel I can hit it both ways I will play the round working the ball. 

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If I have to. But straight is cooler.

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Actually, I do shape most shots, as it is hard to actually hit a ball straight.

It's easier to hit a controlled fade, than a draw, for me. But the draw will go a little longer.

It seems like most tee shots require a little turn one way or another don't they?

Turning the ball isn't that hard. I basically open or close the face a bit to the target, then align my feet to the clear shot, and let it rip

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My typical and go to shot is right to left.  Can I move the ball left to right, you betcha.  Can I do it when I want, most of the time, can I do it under pressure, not as much.  And to go along with it, I cannot move the ball with every club.  No way am I hitting a cut with a wedge, just not going to happen.  My longer clubs are easier to move either direction. The left to right is played only when needed.

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Always work the ball.My natural shot is a right to left hard draw.But I can also work the Ball easily from left to right .Im a highly skilled and gifted natural golfer with superb coordination.Feel bad for everyone that slices.A slice is really a sign that things are very very bad

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Now that I think about it, I don't work the ball... because I'm retired.   ;)

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Good lord, I'm just happy when the balls goes straight, where I aimed it.  Working it?  You must be kidding.  I have a natural push/fade anyways, so you can be damned certain that if I line up expecting that push/fade, the ball is going straight or duck hook left. About the only working the ball I do is when flirting with the cart girl :)

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