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I'm wondering if anyone got the chuckle out of this that I did....I've always found comparing heads of different lofts on different shafts to be of limited usefulness. They also included a weird mix of club, they didn't have anything from Ping or TMG which I think is a problem because it's hard for people to know how different heads might compare without a reference to something they've hit before.   

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/307204/2015-blade-iron-shootout/

In my Bag

 

Driver- Taylormade RBZ 10.5 w/ Matrix Black Tie Stiff

3 Wood- Taylormade R11s 15 w/ Matore Speeder 7.3 Stiff

Hybrids- Adams Super LS 19 w/ Kuro Kage Stiff      Adams Super 9031 23 w/ Diamana D+ Stiff

Irons- Mizuno MP-60 5-9 w/ TT Black Gold Stiff

Wedges- Scor 48,51,55,59 KBS Genius Stiff

Putter- Rife Aussie

Ball- ProV1x

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I actually appreciate the test and its results, it's something at least.  From looking at the clubs side by side I'd love to take the Cobras for a spin.  Generally speaking I stay with GI irons even though I'm a lower handicapper, it's one less thing for me to worry about and it makes it much easier to keep my game up to speed when I'm not playing as much.

 

I think it's always important to recognize that any test provides a starting point.  They have the data available for anyone who wants to draw additional conclusions in regards to the clubs and their suitability for his or her game.

 

Every test has its limitations except the one that you do for yourself - then the limitation is the one that you will have to play with for real over the life of the club(s) that you select. 

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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I can appreciate they TRIED. Former college players, and teaching pros will have a much different view than me: Average Joe Golfer. I agree that the choices of clubs were odd. Throw in some rec golfers to that testing data and I bet the results in rankings change. 

Driver:  :nike-small:  Nike Covert 2.0 Tour KK 70g Stiff

Fairway Wood: :nike-small: Nike Covert 2.0 Tour KK 60g Stiff
Hybrids:   :nike-small: Nike Covert 2.0 Tour KK Stiff

Irons:    :taylormade-small: R-11s KBS Stiff. 

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:  Cleveland 588 Rotax  56*

               Some no name 60* I got at Goodwill for $5

Putter::  :ping-small: MGS Ketsch Special Edition   

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Shoes : Oakley Cipher 2

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I understand the difficulty in getting a test with the same shaft in all irons....but the same loft would not be that difficult, as these clubs can be adjusted by a professional....and the Hogan can be ordered for any loft...To me that would be the starting point.

 

That said, it looks like the the Japanese stole the show.

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Driver: Tour Edge Exotics EXS w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft BACKUP DRIVER: Cobra F8 w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft  Fairways:  Cobra King F8 3W(14.5*) & 5W(18.5*) w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Hybrids: Tour Edge CBX 119 4H(22*)  with Project X Evenflo regular shaft Irons: Wilson Staff D7 5 - PW w/Recoil 460 regular shafts Wedges: Wilson D7 GW(50*) & SW(54*) w/Recoil 460 regular shafts; Cleveland RTX Zipcore(58*) w/True Temper Spinner Wedge steel shaft  Putter: 33" Slotline SSi 693 mid mallet Bag: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag(Peacoat Blue).

 

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A lot of folks like these sort of "tests" because they appeal to their feel-good factor if they've bought into a brand for whatever reason. JDM enthusiasts are usually right up there when it comes to reeling off countless reasons why you should be playing a particular club, but as everyone else has pointed out - it's only the opinion of a few. Do we really need to know the opinion of a 58 year old? Well, I guess they have an opinion like everyone else, but that doesn't mean we should be hanging on every word they say about a particular club.

A much better way of getting an unbalanced review of how a particular club performs is (surprise, surprise) to go out and demo them yourself. Unfortunately, this is where most folks usually turn around and say "there's no demos near me - I don't want to travel that far - I want this but don't want that - etc".

Not surprising either given that most of the target audience hail from the land that invented the drive-thru consumer experience.

I can forgive any reviews that give the consumer some sort of informed opinion of how some looks, is finished, or the options (including baseline specs), but this sort of head-to-head "test" is nothing more than a bad case of self-indulgence on the part of the editorial. No change there then.

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They didn't use the stock shafts in a lot of the irons.  For example, the Hogan iron.  Their stock shaft is the KBS Tour V.

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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I would LOVE for them to mythbust the "blades make you a better golfer" 

 

Do a test with scratch, low teens, low 20's, and low 30 handicappers.

 

One go around with blades and one go around with some GI irons.

 

Get some launch monitor data, do some impact tape data, etc.

 

Then post it for the masses!

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I would LOVE for them to mythbust the "blades make you a better golfer"

 

Do a test with scratch, low teens, low 20's, and low 30 handicappers.

 

One go around with blades and one go around with some GI irons.

 

Get some launch monitor data, do some impact tape data, etc.

 

Then post it for the masses!

I would as well. In the end though folks are going to buy what fits their eye. My preference is to find what works and let it fit my eye later. After a year I still hate walking past my bag and seeing there. But I love the ball in the air with them and I know exactly what to expect and when playing well how to get it.

 

@jankaski what's wrong with 58 year olds? We still have a little game left on the bone old boy. Give us some respect! :)

 

The one major take away from this test for me was carry distances. High 150's with a 7. These were all good players and that was their average with that club. No accusations, just my periodic plea to be true to thine own self about the distance though actually hittest the ball.

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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Did anybody notice player 5's handicap was n/a and is a current teaching pro? What kind of teaching pro DOESN'T keep track of his/her handicap?

 

I can appreciate the test though. Like Rev said, it is something at least. The only thing I find annoying is when these sites (MGS included) do these tests and people keep saying they should do a test with all the heads using the same shaft? All these companies offer their stock shafts for a reason. Lofts the same thing. These are all stock and should be tested as offered by said company (with the exception of the Hogan iron) . I'm only assuming here but I would think that all these companies would have tested their irons with all types of shafts and determined that whichever shaft performed best overall becomes the stock shaft. If you want to try a head with your favorite shaft, got to a fitter. 

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DRIVER:                  :mizuno-small:  ST190, 10.5*, Fujikura  Atmos Black Tour Spec 65g, Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Wrap, midsize

HYBRIDS:    :adams-small:    Pro  2 hybrid 16*, Aldila Tour Red 75g, Stiff, Superstroke TX1 Midsize grip 

                        :mizuno-small:           JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, Superstroke TX1 Midsize grip                                  

IRONS:            :cobra-small:    King Forged Tour 4i-pw, KBS FLT, shafts, stiff,  Superstroke TX1 Midsize grips

WEDGES:        rsz_scor-golf-logo.png        50, 55, 60 degree wedges with Genius 12 stiff flex,   Superstroke TX1 Midsize grips

PUTTER:       :odyssey-small:    O-Works Marksman 33.5", Superstroke 1.0 Flatso grip w/ 50g counter core

BALL:          :bridgestone-small: Tour B X                                                     
                  
BAG:          :Ogio:              Cirrus Golf Bag 
 
Shoes:              Skechers                  Hexgo Control  Shoes

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Im a Class A PGA Professional and haven't kept a handicap since college. What's the point? Only events I play in score gross only.

Exactly, my question would be what class A keeps a handicap? Regardless of that the points were all take in Mbrodeur's post.

 

BTW in regards to handicaps I saw the ones from our club in the locker room the other day. There are several on the 1-2 range, strong young players. Mine is in a lower group but there is a player with a last name of L that is +3.8. Anyone care to guess who she is? I'm betting she doesn't turn in all of her scores. :)

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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Regardless of that the points were all take in Mbrodeur's post.

Anyone care to guess who she is? I'm betting she doesn't turn in all of her scores. :)

Agreed- many valid points except that one.

 

I'm figure she'd be lower- must not enter all her tournament scores! Lowest I ever got to was a +2.7 and that was back when I had zero responsibilities. I'll never get that low again.

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I'm wondering where they came up with the Chikara irons?  Seriously?

 

Those are just not easy to find, let alone demo.

 

I know I live out in the boondocks, but if I'm willing to travel 4 hours I can demo Vega, Mirua, Hogan, Edel, etc. and unless you're a bit of an equipment geek, you may not even be familiar with the names (other than Hogan, and there's still a LOT of folks that don't know there's a New Hogan available).

 

The review is worth whatever it is to you, but I suspect it's only relevant to a very small group.

What's In The Bag

Driver :titelist-small:

Titleist 913 D2 10.5* (set to 9.75* / Neutral) 46" Paderson KINETIXX Kevlar Green - R

Fairway Wood

Tom Wishon 949 MC 16.5* Fujikura Speeder 569-A

Hybrid  :cleveland-small: Hibore 22* Aldila VS Proto Blue

Irons  :ping-small: G series 5-P

Wedges :ping-small:Glide 54* SS / 60* TS - SCOR 53*

Putter     :nike-small: Nike Method 001 / P2 Reflex grip 35"

Ball

Master Grip Tour C4

Bag

Datrek DG Lite  

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Im a Class A PGA Professional and haven't kept a handicap since college. What's the point? Only events I play in score gross only.

 

 

My apologies was not aware of that.

DRIVER:                  :mizuno-small:  ST190, 10.5*, Fujikura  Atmos Black Tour Spec 65g, Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Wrap, midsize

HYBRIDS:    :adams-small:    Pro  2 hybrid 16*, Aldila Tour Red 75g, Stiff, Superstroke TX1 Midsize grip 

                        :mizuno-small:           JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, Superstroke TX1 Midsize grip                                  

IRONS:            :cobra-small:    King Forged Tour 4i-pw, KBS FLT, shafts, stiff,  Superstroke TX1 Midsize grips

WEDGES:        rsz_scor-golf-logo.png        50, 55, 60 degree wedges with Genius 12 stiff flex,   Superstroke TX1 Midsize grips

PUTTER:       :odyssey-small:    O-Works Marksman 33.5", Superstroke 1.0 Flatso grip w/ 50g counter core

BALL:          :bridgestone-small: Tour B X                                                     
                  
BAG:          :Ogio:              Cirrus Golf Bag 
 
Shoes:              Skechers                  Hexgo Control  Shoes

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Brittany is a plus 3.8 but only enters scores when she's playing at home, not on tour.  That means she's only entering scores from Bayou or Bardmoor, she's playing the tips on those courses and both are 7,000 plus from there - so much for those of us who are going to wax an LPGA player. 

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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Did anybody notice player 5's handicap was n/a and is a current teaching pro? What kind of teaching pro DOESN'T keep track of his/her handicap?

 

I can appreciate the test though. Like Rev said, it is something at least. The only thing I find annoying is when these sites (MGS included) do these tests and people keep saying they should do a test with all the heads using the same shaft? All these companies offer their stock shafts for a reason. Lofts the same thing. These are all stock and should be tested as offered by said company (with the exception of the Hogan iron) . I'm only assuming here but I would think that all these companies would have tested their irons with all types of shafts and determined that whichever shaft performed best overall becomes the stock shaft. If you want to try a head with your favorite shaft, got to a fitter.

Hogan has a stock shaft so why not include them? Heck when we were doing our Hogan Fit profiles, I looked and didn't even see the dynamic gold as an option.

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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