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52 minutes ago, bardle said:

Its pretty common for teams that recently competed for championships or got left out of the playoffs to blow up in whatever bowl game. It's basically like playing for a participation trophy for them, How do you get motivated to win a game that means nothing when they almost beat the #1 team in the country and got left out of the playoffs...Especially considering the outcome of those two playoff games... Thats just my take on it, I think if they had really showed up and wanted it, it wouldn't have been close. 

Compare that to a Texas team who has everything to gain by beating a top contender and you get a very unbalanced scenario in my opinion. I don't mean to undermine Texas' win, It's a good win undoubtedly, I just don't take much stock in the outcome of bowl games with this kind of setup. 

Excuse my language but this is horsesh*t. 

They win: Well, that's because they are the dominant team.

They lose: well, they didn't really care/didn't want to be there. 

The only time you hear this 'excuse' in any sport is during bowl season. If this were true throughout the year, then I guess UGA didn't care during the LSU game...or just lost interest in the SEC Championship game. Fact is, they lined up and got beat. You have days like that and it is what it is...a loss. Fromm was off for most of the game, UT loaded up LOS to stop the run and UGA didn't take care of the ball. The good news is that no one outside of the respective fan bases will even remember the bowl games a few months from now. 

Also, the UGA kids blowing up twitter during the CFP semi-finals didn't do themselves any favors but hey, we were all 20 and ignorant at one point in time. 

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Georgia fans haven't responded because they are still in the fetal position and called in sick after that @$$ kicking last night.  You could tell they mailed it in, and that Texas was jacked up.

Here you go Texas, you get a trophy for winning.  Here you go Georgia, you get PAID for showing up, even if you didn't bother to show up.

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1 minute ago, txgolfjunkie said:

Excuse my language but this is horsesh*t. 

They win: Well, that because they are the dominant team.

They lose: well, they didn't really care/didn't want to be there. 

The only time you hear this 'excuse' in any sport is during bowl season. If this were true throughout the year, then I guess UGA didn't care during the LSU game...or just lost interest in the SEC Championship game. Fact is, they lined up and got beat. You have days like that and it is what it is...a loss. Fromm was off for most of the game, UT loaded up LOS to stop the run and UGA didn't take care of the ball. The good news is that no one outside of the respective fan bases will even remember the bowl games a few months from now. 

Also, the UGA kids blowing up twitter during the CFP semi-finals didn't do themselves any favors but hey, we were all 20 and ignorant at one point in time. 

Same deal with those ripping on UCF as a fraud.  It's one game, and doesn't define two years worth of undefeated seasons.

But this is what college football has become.  We can't talk about religion, politics, race, gender, or just about anything else that does matter in life, so we're left struggling to over analyze meaningless sporting events that 2 months from now no one will give a damn about or even remember who won what.

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1 hour ago, bardle said:

Its pretty common for teams that recently competed for championships or got left out of the playoffs to blow up in whatever bowl game. It's basically like playing for a participation trophy for them, How do you get motivated to win a game that means nothing when they almost beat the #1 team in the country and got left out of the playoffs...Especially considering the outcome of those two playoff games... Thats just my take on it, I think if they had really showed up and wanted it, it wouldn't have been close. 

Compare that to a Texas team who has everything to gain by beating a top contender and you get a very unbalanced scenario in my opinion. I don't mean to undermine Texas' win, It's a good win undoubtedly, I just don't take much stock in the outcome of bowl games with this kind of setup. 

That's where the coaches come in, IMO. If the game itself isn't enough motivation, it's up to the coaches to provide it. If they can't, that's a different issue. Part of the coaches job is the motivate the players to perform their best on every play.

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33 minutes ago, MaxEntropy said:

That's where the coaches come in, IMO. If the game itself isn't enough motivation, it's up to the coaches to provide it. If they can't, that's a different issue. Part of the coaches job is the motivate the players to perform their best on every play.

I keep coming back to Greedy Williams from LSU with regards to this.  How are you supposed to motivate a player who literally tells the coach, "I'm not playin' in the bowl game coach, because the Draft is coming up, and I'm gonna get PAID!!!"

Seems like an overly appropriate name for an NFL player honestly.  

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Georgia was being dominated last night. Fromm had some open receivers and then would throw an awful pass. I was really hoping to see Fields come in and change things up on their offense. With all the pressure Texas was able to put on Fromm I felt that Fields could’ve scrambled better on some of those plays. Fromm was getting pounded though.


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9 hours ago, GSwag said:

I keep coming back to Greedy Williams from LSU with regards to this.  How are you supposed to motivate a player who literally tells the coach, "I'm not playin' in the bowl game coach, because the Draft is coming up, and I'm gonna get PAID!!!"

Seems like an overly appropriate name for an NFL player honestly.  

Lmao you really don't have a clue about him at all do you?

I personally despise players sitting out games but you have to have some idea of the situation bc each case is different.

Greedy Williams is a first round draft pic no doubt. He grew up with Devin White and have been friends for years. He had to go up to White in tears to tell him that he wouldn't be playing the bowl game bc he was advised it would be best for him, his family and career.

Greedy grew up poor in a bad neighborhood and his family and daughter are literally depending on him getting drafted to try and get out of where they are from and to improve their way of life. He has to think about much more than just himself or his wants here. Moving his family out of the projects seems slightly more important to me than playing a G5 team that tries to claim national titles in a bowl game. 

So please spare me your hot taeks when you are talking about someone else's future and livelyhood. I'm sure you'd definitely do the opposite thing with your entire family looking your way. 

 

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As for the UGA vs TX game, I could care less. Texas played decent and looked motivated and Geogia did not. If someone believes that both teams were clicking on all cylinders then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. UGA shouldn't have been running their mouth before the game. That did nothing but hurt them. They deserved to lose that game. 

Ppl saw how Q shut up in the interview when he was talking about Murray and almost let something negative slip. Conversely the OU lb couldn't keep his mouth shut. We saw which worked out best.. Don't give other teams locker room material!

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18 hours ago, txgolfjunkie said:

Excuse my language but this is horsesh*t. 

They win: Well, that's because they are the dominant team.

They lose: well, they didn't really care/didn't want to be there. 

The only time you hear this 'excuse' in any sport is during bowl season. If this were true throughout the year, then I guess UGA didn't care during the LSU game...or just lost interest in the SEC Championship game. Fact is, they lined up and got beat. You have days like that and it is what it is...a loss. Fromm was off for most of the game, UT loaded up LOS to stop the run and UGA didn't take care of the ball. The good news is that no one outside of the respective fan bases will even remember the bowl games a few months from now. 

Also, the UGA kids blowing up twitter during the CFP semi-finals didn't do themselves any favors but hey, we were all 20 and ignorant at one point in time. 

Your first sentence seems to disagree, but the rest of your post seems to agree with me, color me confused.

Clearly its not the case the rest of the season because the rest of the season actually does matter, its the road to the national championship. I'm not a UGA fan by any means, but it's pretty clear UGA wasn't playing to their potential and that is clearly the reason.

Call it coaching, or money ruining bowl season or whatever you want, but the point I made still holds true, UGA didn't care about that game because no one else cared about it either...hence the bolded sentences, if the national fan base can barely get motivated to watch the game, how are the players supposed to be motivated to play it? This is the problem with bowl season in general, just a bunch of corporate sponsored participation trophies for beating half of the teams you played...No athlete at that level wants to compete for nothing, its a joke.

18 hours ago, MaxEntropy said:

That's where the coaches come in, IMO. If the game itself isn't enough motivation, it's up to the coaches to provide it. If they can't, that's a different issue. Part of the coaches job is the motivate the players to perform their best on every play.

100% agree with this though, if you are gonna have to play a game, get your team motivated to play it...How to do that is another question but thats why most of these coaches get a minimum of 7 figures, for that amount of money, they should be able to figure it out. 

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9 hours ago, Undershooter30 said:

Lmao you really don't have a clue about him at all do you?

I personally despise players sitting out games but you have to have some idea of the situation bc each case is different.

Greedy Williams is a first round draft pic no doubt. He grew up with Devin White and have been friends for years. He had to go up to White in tears to tell him that he wouldn't be playing the bowl game bc he was advised it would be best for him, his family and career.

Greedy grew up poor in a bad neighborhood and his family and daughter are literally depending on him getting drafted to try and get out of where they are from and to improve their way of life. He has to think about much more than just himself or his wants here. Moving his family out of the projects seems slightly more important to me than playing a G5 team that tries to claim national titles in a bowl game. 

So please spare me your hot taeks when you are talking about someone else's future and livelyhood. I'm sure you'd definitely do the opposite thing with your entire family looking your way. 

 

Edit: pretty sure the nickname isn't quite what you make of it btw 🤣

Like I said previously, people getting worked up and emotional over a meaningless football game, and football players, because we can't talk about anything in life that actually really matters.

Honestly dude, blow whatever crap you want about Greedy or whomever here.  I don't give two flips about any of it.  And you can do your own wikipedia search to get an answer as to how he got his "nickname".

I've heard it a thousand times.  Poor kid from the projects makes it big playing basketball or football.  Yada yada yada.

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51 minutes ago, GSwag said:

Like I said previously, people getting worked up and emotional over a meaningless football game, and football players, because we can't talk about anything in life that actually really matters.

Honestly dude, blow whatever crap you want about Greedy or whomever here.  I don't give two flips about any of it.  And you can do your own wikipedia search to get an answer as to how he got his "nickname".

I've heard it a thousand times.  Poor kid from the projects makes it big playing basketball or football.  Yada yada yada.

DO NOT CARE!!!!

Feel free to continue to make yourself look bad then lol

But making judgments about someone's else's life and situation doesn't seem like a very Christian thing to do. 

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2 minutes ago, Undershooter30 said:

Feel free to continue to make yourself look bad then lol

But making judgments about someone's else's life and situation doesn't seem like a very Christian thing to do in my eyes. 

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OK, now you are trolling.  Please stop this nonsense.  

Making an observation about someone's name is not judgment.  I mean, let's talk about Ha Ha Clinton-Dix with regards to horrible names.

Honestly dude, pulling the Christian card is REALLY low and shows you lack any sense of class or civility whatsoever.

I'm done responding to your juvenile vitriol.  Don't go away mad; just go away.

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Hey Spies......I started this thread 3 1/2 years ago so we could discuss college football. So let’s play nice so it doesn’t get shut down by the Moderators.


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20 hours ago, GSwag said:

I keep coming back to Greedy Williams from LSU with regards to this.  How are you supposed to motivate a player who literally tells the coach, "I'm not playin' in the bowl game coach, because the Draft is coming up, and I'm gonna get PAID!!!"

Seems like an overly appropriate name for an NFL player honestly.  

If your family was poor and your son was sitting on a potential multi million dollar pay day,  you would want him to play in a meaningless bowl game and risk injury and his pay day?  I find that hard to believe.

And QB Will Grier and DL Nick Bosa chose not to play in their bowl games.  How come no mention of them? Didn't fit your narrative?

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OK, now you are trolling.  Please stop this nonsense.  

Making an observation about someone's name is not judgment.  I mean, let's talk about Ha Ha Clinton-Dix with regards to horrible names.

Honestly dude, pulling the Christian card is REALLY low and shows you lack any sense of class or civility whatsoever.

I'm done responding to your juvenile vitriol.  Don't go away mad; just go away.

So now you care... Edit: The judging I was speaking had nothing to do with his name.

 

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The recent bowl games are old news so no point dwelling on them.  Bama is favored by 5 and a half, over under is 59.5 and the ESPN "probability of winning" has Bama at 51%.  

You get one bet - over/under or pick the winner against the spread?

I think Alabama wins but will pick Clemson getting the points.

Who do you have or you going over/under?

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I'll take Bama as my bet. Although I think they will stay under 59.5,

Clemson is confusing this season to me, they are obviously really good, I'm just not sure how good given the quality of the ACC this year. That Notre dame blowout sure made them look good though. 

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On 1/2/2019 at 1:29 PM, GSwag said:

Georgia fans haven't responded because they are still in the fetal position and called in sick after that @$$ kicking last night.  You could tell they mailed it in, and that Texas was jacked up.

Here you go Texas, you get a trophy for winning.  Here you go Georgia, you get PAID for showing up, even if you didn't bother to show up.

First time on this thread in a few days.  Texas was ready and I just don't know what to think of my Dawgs, they got their butts whipped much worse than the score indicated IMO.  I have read an interesting stat since the game that I guess is really relevant only to gamblers but since the playoffs began the #5 rated team (the first team out of the playoffs) has now lost 4 of 5 of their bowl games, only tOSU won one and that was last year.  I guess most college age kids are not mature enough to handle the disappointment of  barely missing the playoffs so then self motivation becomes a huge problem for coaching staffs.  I'm not making an excuse as I said above Texas beat UGA much worse than that final score but I did find the #5 bowl winning percentage telling.  

 

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2 minutes ago, DawgDaddy said:

First time on this thread in a few day.  Texas was ready and I just don't know what to think of my Dawgs, they got their butts whipped much worse than the score indicated IMO.  I have read an interesting stat since the game that I guess is really relevant only to gamblers but since the playoffs began the #5 rated team (the first team out of the playoffs) has now lost 4 of 5 of their bowl games, only tOSU won one and that was last year.  I guess most college age kids are not mature enough to handle the disappointment of  barely missing the playoffs so then self motivation becomes a huge problem for coaching staffs.  I'm not making an excuse as I said above Texas beat UGA much worse than that final score but I did find the #5 bowl winning percentage telling.  

 

As always Go Dawgs!  

This is a much more elegant and humble way of saying what I was trying to get across earlier in this thread, Thank you for adding this. I agree 100% with your conclusions. 

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