Aotearoa_Brad Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Hi all, Saw this come up on Instagram and wondered if anyone had any details on it... other than the obvious carbon weight-shift/trail/thingee... SPOTTED! - The @cobragolf King F6+ Driver INFO: http://t.co/LvxILhXpKT pic.twitter.com/MkUd3H4eto— MyGolfSpy (@MyGolfSpy) September 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aotearoa_Brad Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 looks wise, I think it is super-purdy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apprenti23 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I love the look of Cobras new stuff! Haven't had a Cobra club stay in the bag since 2004 when I was on Cobra staff. Picked up a flyz+ this year but sold it before I hit it. Oh well maybe next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Should have kept the flip zone thing Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Now this is nice.......and its Blue! Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Don't know anything about it, but I'm really hoping that color is available across their entire lineup!! Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aotearoa_Brad Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 I've been doing a bit of snooping... So apparently there is an F6 as well as the F6+... F6 doesn't have sliding weight, but has removable weight that can be positioned forward or rearward (a la flip zone)... Watch this space I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I read it's the replacement for Fly Z and Fly Z+. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Replacement? Already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The thread I was reading said most likely a later release (Jan/Feb) to not interfere with the King release. Would end up giving the Fly Z series a one year lifespan. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Didn't realize Fly Z came out that early this year. Seems like we just heard about it a couple months ago. I guess a year isn't outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrodeur86 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah that's kinda quick for a release DRIVER: Stealth 2, 9* Upright setting, Mitsubishi Kai' Li red, 60g Stiff flex, New grip coming Woods: Sim Max 3 Wood, 15*, Fujikura Ventus 6 Blue 65g, Stiff flex, New grip coming HYBRIDS: JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, New grip coming IRONS: MP-20 HMB 4 iron, Project X LZ 6.5 shaft, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grip JPX 919 Tour 5i-pw, Project X LZ 6.5 shafts, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grips WEDGES: New Level Golf 50*, 55*, 60* M-Type Wedges with True Temper Elevate Tour X-Stiff flex, New Level Midsize grips PUTTER: Heppler Ketsch 35", Ping PP62 Pistol Grip BALL: Pro V1 (2021 + 2023 Versions) BAG: TM19 Select Plus Cart Bag Shoes: Under Armour HOVR Fade 2 SL Spikeless Shoes Tech: NX7 Pro Slope golf laser Rangefinder Frogger Golf Towels, 4 more Yard blue/ yellow golf tees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP Tony Covey MGS Posted September 23, 2015 SPY VIP Share Posted September 23, 2015 Maybe I've seen this driver...maybe I haven't, doesn't matter. I believe that a substantial portion of what actually matters about this driver can be inferred from that single photograph. With our continuous education efforts focused on mass properties, I'd like to think we've made you among the most educated readers/consumers in golf. I also like to think I'm a pretty smart guy, and so naturally I'd like you to prove me right. Here's my Challenge to you: Look at what you see. Think about what you know about the mass properties of currently available drivers. Think about what you've learned about Cobra's roadmap, and most specifically its philosophy around mass properties. Consider other new products coming to market. Consider all of that and now you tell me... What are the likely mass properties of the F6+? What are the performance characteristics that result? What are the limiting factors of the design, and perhaps most importantly, based on all of that, how do you think it will compare to FLY-Z+? How will it compare to other offerings in the market? Go.... MyGolfSpy is only major golf site that refuses advertising from large golf companies. With your support we can keep it that way. Donate Today Follow @GolfSpyT Subscribe to the MyGolfSpy Newsletter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think the next time I get in the market for a new driver I'll look hard at Cobra. I really don't care about all the tech stuff that much regarding clubs. I only care what I see with my own two eyes and feel in my hands. These company's can shower all the tech on me they want. I throw it on the floor and go out and hit balls. You can write all you want about performance this and that. Fine. I'll decide if their so called improved performance works for me. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted September 23, 2015 SPY VIP Share Posted September 23, 2015 Like seeing the same hosel. Sliding weight should give a nice range of "towering" to "penetrating" though that really sounds dirty Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evershady Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I agree with Plaid about giving a long look to Cobra. I also agree with Dave on how the weight system gives a larger range than the Fly Z. What is the hole right above the B in Cobra. Chippewa Falls Wisconsin 10.3 Index Right Handed What's in the bag: Driver: FG Tour F5 8* Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution Tour Spec X-flex, Anser 8*, Black Grafalloy Bi-Matrix X-Flex; King LTD Pro Orange Grafalloy Bi-Matrix X-Flex FW Wood: FG Tour F5 15* Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution Tour Spec X-Flex Anse14*, Fujikura Speeder 757 US Open Edition , X-Stiff Irons: FG Tour V4 2 utility Iron, 3-PW, +0.25, 2* Upright, True Temper Dynamic Gold X-100 Wedges: FG Tour PMP Gun Blue 52* bent to 51*, 56* True Temper Dynamic Gold X-100 Shafts E2 35", 8802 35.5", Scottsdale, Wolverine C 35" Anser Milled, Anser 2 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Maybe I've seen this driver...maybe I haven't, doesn't matter. I believe that a substantial portion of what actually matters about this driver can be inferred from that single photograph. With our continuous education efforts focused on mass properties, I'd like to think we've made you among the most educated readers/consumers in golf. I also like to think I'm a pretty smart guy, and so naturally I'd like you to prove me right. Here's my Challenge to you: Look at what you see. Think about what you know about the mass properties of currently available drivers. Think about what you've learned about Cobra's roadmap, and most specifically its philosophy around mass properties. Consider other new products coming to market. Consider all of that and now you tell me... What are the likely mass properties of the F6+? What are the performance characteristics that result? What are the limiting factors of the design, and perhaps most importantly, based on all of that, how do you think it will compare to FLY-Z+? How will it compare to other offerings in the market? Go.... It was my understanding that there would be no math... https://vine.co/v/OBWBJBuOK1z Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhayse32 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I would like to take one for the team and offer to test one of these. It's really is no trouble at all... M1 10.5* - Tour AD BB-6X 10F.d. 13.5* - Graffaloy Bi-Matrix X 915Hd 20.5* - Aldila Tour Green T-MB 2-iron - Aldila Tour Green 716 AP2 5-PW - KBS C-Taper Lite X SM6 50/56 - DG S400 Kombi S 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Looking forward to seeing who's forward/back weight system alters launch/spin more - The one in Taylormade's M1, or the system available in the F6 or F6+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP Tony Covey MGS Posted September 23, 2015 SPY VIP Share Posted September 23, 2015 Looking forward to seeing who's forward/back weight system alters launch/spin more - The one in Taylormade's M1, or the system available in the F6 or F6+ We know that TaylorMade's front/back weight is 10g. Cobra's FLY-Z+ was 15g. It certainly *appears* that Cobra's design allows for weight to be moved over a larger area. If we assume (no guarantees of course) that Cobra hasn't reduced the mass of their weight, then based on more mass being moved over a greater area, Cobra's system would impact a greater change in front to back CG location (and by extension would have a greater impact on launch and spin). TaylorMade chose to compromise a bit of front/back movement (as well as some of the mass that could have gone into the front/back weight) in order to keep the left/right adjustability of the front weight track. I have a bit of the mass properties info from TaylorMade. It's really impressive how far they've come from R15. MyGolfSpy is only major golf site that refuses advertising from large golf companies. With your support we can keep it that way. Donate Today Follow @GolfSpyT Subscribe to the MyGolfSpy Newsletter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We know that TaylorMade's front/back weight is 10g. Cobra's FLY-Z+ was 15g. It certainly *appears* that Cobra's design allows for weight to be moved over a larger area. If we assume (no guarantees of course) that Cobra hasn't reduced the mass of their weight, then based on more mass being moved over a greater area, Cobra's system would impact a greater change in front to back CG location (and by extension would have a greater impact on launch and spin). TaylorMade chose to compromise a bit of front/back movement (as well as some of the mass that could have gone into the front/back weight) in order to keep the left/right adjustability of the front weight track. I have a bit of the mass properties info from TaylorMade. It's really impressive how far they've come from R15. It's very impressive what TM did to remove the weight from the crown of the club. I wonder if Cobra has improved on their cell technology, or if they are going in another direction for their crowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We know that TaylorMade's front/back weight is 10g. Cobra's FLY-Z+ was 15g. It certainly *appears* that Cobra's design allows for weight to be moved over a larger area. If we assume (no guarantees of course) that Cobra hasn't reduced the mass of their weight, then based on more mass being moved over a greater area, Cobra's system would impact a greater change in front to back CG location (and by extension would have a greater impact on launch and spin). TaylorMade chose to compromise a bit of front/back movement (as well as some of the mass that could have gone into the front/back weight) in order to keep the left/right adjustability of the front weight track. I have a bit of the mass properties info from TaylorMade. It's really impressive how far they've come from R15. SO MUCH MATH.... Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 So will Cobra's offering move the CG farther back and lower for higher launch or are they shooting for a greater combo of launch/forgiveness/spin mitigation with via the club head? Generally speaking I don't do as well with lower farther back CGs because I tend to launch high anyway. It's why I've had no luck with Cobra as much as I've wanted to bag one of their drivers (I've never gone for a Cobra fitting where I could play with shafts to try and reduce spin though) Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Maybe I've seen this driver...maybe I haven't, doesn't matter. I believe that a substantial portion of what actually matters about this driver can be inferred from that single photograph. With our continuous education efforts focused on mass properties, I'd like to think we've made you among the most educated readers/consumers in golf. I also like to think I'm a pretty smart guy, and so naturally I'd like you to prove me right. Here's my Challenge to you: Look at what you see. Think about what you know about the mass properties of currently available drivers. Think about what you've learned about Cobra's roadmap, and most specifically its philosophy around mass properties. Consider other new products coming to market. Consider all of that and now you tell me... What are the likely mass properties of the F6+? What are the performance characteristics that result? What are the limiting factors of the design, and perhaps most importantly, based on all of that, how do you think it will compare to FLY-Z+? How will it compare to other offerings in the market? Go.... I'm going off memory here because the picture is gone. It looked to me like it would be a solution that can be fit to a wider range of swing types. The same driver head could be configured similar to a G30 or an SLDR or anywhere in between. The interesting part is the CG will come up some with the weight back as opposed to forward. So while you would increase moi, it would also lower the launch and increase the spin. That's just a guess based on what I remember from the picture though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbil8802 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'm interested to see how this one plays out. They're using a heavier weight and it seems like they're maxing it out in terms of movement from front to back. With it back I'm thinking of my G25 and with it forward the SLDR comes to mind. My concern is how loft will come into play. Let's say, for example, that I play a 9.5° G25 since the CG is back but with the low, forward CG of the SLDR I might be better off in 11.25°. With this driver, I may be needing to dramatically adjust the loft to play it in each of the extreme settings. Maybe Cobra has a developed something to deal with this. If not, then maybe the can of "loft adjustability" worms gets opened. Driver - M1 9.5* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Fairway - M1 5W 19* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Hybrids - G25 4H 23* Irons - JPX 850 Forged 4-PW w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Wedges - S5 50*07, 54*12, 58*12 w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Putter - Oddyssey Metal-X #7 w/ SuperStroke Pistol GT 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhayse32 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 So will Cobra's offering move the CG farther back and lower for higher launch or are they shooting for a greater combo of launch/forgiveness/spin mitigation with via the club head? Generally speaking I don't do as well with lower farther back CGs because I tend to launch high anyway. It's why I've had no luck with Cobra as much as I've wanted to bag one of their drivers (I've never gone for a Cobra fitting where I could play with shafts to try and reduce spin though) I launch the ball high as well but I was pleasantly surprised at my ball flight with the regular FlyZ with it being rear weighted. I got better results with it than the FZ+ weighted forward. Judging by the specs from the MGS Most Wanted, Cobra is all about the low spin and I fully expect these new drivers to continue on that trend. M1 10.5* - Tour AD BB-6X 10F.d. 13.5* - Graffaloy Bi-Matrix X 915Hd 20.5* - Aldila Tour Green T-MB 2-iron - Aldila Tour Green 716 AP2 5-PW - KBS C-Taper Lite X SM6 50/56 - DG S400 Kombi S 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashworth815 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I know a pro who has hit this and said it is beyond incredible. They were sworn to secrecy about everything to do with this driver. He said he hit this and the KING and this one by far outperformed the KING. Byron, Illinois Right-handed Handicap: 5 Driver: Cobra Fly-Z+ 8.5* Weigh back- Aldila Tour Blue 65 Stiff 3 Wood: Cobra Fly-Z+ 14.5*- Aldila Tour Blue 85 Stiff Hybrid: Cobra Fly-Z 20.5*- Matrix VLCT Altus 75 Stiff Irons: Titleist AP2 712 4-PW- Dynamic Gold S400 Wedges: Titleist SM5 52*, 56*, 60*- Dynamic Gold S400 Putter: Odyssey White Hot #9 32" SuperStroke Ultra Slim 1.0 Ball: Titleist Pro-V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Curtis Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Recently got one of these, the blue one in fact! Absolutely love it! Never have I been able to hit a draw consistently in my life! Now I am on every drive with this we took in my bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Smith Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Looks Awesome with Blue Color cobragolf King F6+ Driver... Alberta Golf Courses | Red Deer Golf Courses | Golf Red Deer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundcruz Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Hi all, Saw this come up on Instagram and wondered if anyone had any details on it... other than the obvious carbon weight-shift/trail/thingee... That's a great looking driver! Twitter: @EdmundCruz @ChiGolfAth What's In The Bag: Driver: Tour Edge Golf EX9 10 degrees, UST Mamiya ATTAS COOOL Stiff FlexHybrid: Tour Edge Golf Exotics EX9 #3 Hybrid, UST MAMIYA RECOIL 670 F4 Stiff FlexIrons: Ft. Worth 15 Irons, 23, 27, 31, 35, 39, 43, 47 KBS Tour 90 S-Flex ShaftWedges: TK 15 Wedges, 51, 55, 59. KBS Tour 90 S-Flex ShaftPutter: Buzelli Golf STA-1, Standard Loft/LieBall: Snell Golf My Tour Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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