dhayse32 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ...so I need to buy some new ones. I am running low on the Lethal Practice balls I have been playing for the last few years. Need to order some new balls this week and confused on what direction to go. Debating on the ProV1x or the Snell Tour ball. I know we have a solid Snell following on here which is why I am considering them....thoughts? Suggestions? I mean, all I really want is a ball that consistently finds the fairway, have great feel on approach shots, and won't allow me to 3-putt.... M1 10.5* - Tour AD BB-6X 10F.d. 13.5* - Graffaloy Bi-Matrix X 915Hd 20.5* - Aldila Tour Green T-MB 2-iron - Aldila Tour Green 716 AP2 5-PW - KBS C-Taper Lite X SM6 50/56 - DG S400 Kombi S 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbil8802 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 My vote is Snell. I've played the ProV1x for two years and switched to the Snell last month. I've noticed no real difference on course although I haven't done any launch monitor comparisons between the two. For 2/3 the price of the ProV1x, I can play brand new balls and not cringe every time I hit one off line. Driver - M1 9.5* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Fairway - M1 5W 19* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Hybrids - G25 4H 23* Irons - JPX 850 Forged 4-PW w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Wedges - S5 50*07, 54*12, 58*12 w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Putter - Oddyssey Metal-X #7 w/ SuperStroke Pistol GT 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru_ Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Snell or MG c4. Though I've been playing the current Nike RZN Black a good bit as well. Dru - Owner, President & Janitor, Druware Software Designs RH 13.1 Handicap in soggy Georgia WITB * 1W 10.5* @ PXG 0211 ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 3W PXG 0211 ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 5W 18* Tailor-made AeroBurner ( Stock Stiff ) * 7W Sub70 949x ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 5i-PW @ PXG 0211 ( Gen 1 ) * 52 @ Hogan Equalizer * 56 @ Sub70 * 60 @ Hogan Equalizer * Carbon Ringo 1/4 * Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'd vote for the (MG Golf) MG Tour C4. $19.95 dz. And while you're at it grab a couple of their Dynagrip or Dynagrip Elite gloves. You'll be very pleased. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Your lucky to have options really, we've got the big manufacturers and that's it in Europe - oh and they cost more here. Right grumble over. Rest in peace long sticks - I'll remember you TM Burner Superfast 2.0 TP Regular TM RBZ Stage 2 Fairway 14.5 stiff Adams Blue Hybrid No. 3 stiff Adams Super xtdHybrid 21.5 Stiff Ping G30 4 and 5 Iron - Regular CFS Shaft Ping i25 6 - PW Regular CFS Shaft TM Y Groove Gap Wedge Cleveland CG10 Sand Wedge PingTR Piper Putter, adjustable shaft, SuperStroke Fatso Titleist StaDry Cart Bag Motocaddy S3 Pro Trolley Foot Joy City, Adidas Boost Boa and Adidas Superstar shoes Pro V1x in the summer, Titleist Velocity in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Get out man!! Get out. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrodeur86 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 My vote is Snell. It is at least 10-20 yards further with my driver and just as good on the greens as the prov1x I used to play with. DRIVER: Stealth 2, 9* Upright setting, Mitsubishi Kai' Li red, 60g Stiff flex, New grip coming Woods: Sim Max 3 Wood, 15*, Fujikura Ventus 6 Blue 65g, Stiff flex, New grip coming HYBRIDS: JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, New grip coming IRONS: MP-20 HMB 4 iron, Project X LZ 6.5 shaft, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grip JPX 919 Tour 5i-pw, Project X LZ 6.5 shafts, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grips WEDGES: New Level Golf 50*, 55*, 60* M-Type Wedges with True Temper Elevate Tour X-Stiff flex, New Level Midsize grips PUTTER: Heppler Ketsch 35", Ping PP62 Pistol Grip BALL: Pro V1 (2021 + 2023 Versions) BAG: TM19 Select Plus Cart Bag Shoes: Under Armour HOVR Fade 2 SL Spikeless Shoes Tech: NX7 Pro Slope golf laser Rangefinder Frogger Golf Towels, 4 more Yard blue/ yellow golf tees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 MG is tough to beat for the price. It's a great ball. The only reason I'm not playing them any more is bc I get ProV1X balls from a local guy for even cheaper. Overally there isn't a ton of difference in the balls. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Snell is My Tour Ball “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I mean, all I really want is a ball that consistently finds the fairway, have great feel on approach shots, and won't allow me to 3-putt.... I would venture to guess we are looking for the same ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If you are deciding between prov1x vs. Snell MTB, it's the Snell hands down, you will not be disappointed. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I switched to the MG C4, but have yet to actually compare it to the Snell. I play a lot of different balls, particularly in the Spring and Fall, but was primarily gaming the Pro V1x before switching to the C4 during "regular season." I play to purchase a couple of boxes of Snell to compare between MG C4 and Pro V1x next season and I'm pretty sure I'll settle on MG or Snell, for the simple reason they won't keep changing the product on me every year. They're all quality balls, but if I'm EVER going to gain any consistency in my short game, I think I need to take the ball out of the equation and make it consistent. The Snell MTB and MG C4 can provide that. All the major OEMs, will introduce new models every year, whether needed or not. Even if they're "better balls," they'll be different. What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLeo12 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Snell MTB hands down. I might have to try this MG C4 you guys are always ranting about Ping G410 LST 10.5 set -1* Flat Accra TZ5 65 M5 Callaway Epic Flash 15* set -1 Aldila ATX Blue 75TX Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 19* KBS Tour V X Ben Hogan PTX Pro 4-P KBS Tour V X 2* Flat 4* loft increments Hogan Equalizer 50* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 X 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 56* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 62* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat EVNROLL ER7 P2 Aware Tour Scotty Cameron Newport2 Buttonback P2 Aware Tour Grip Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Snell MTB hands down. I might have to try this MG C4 you guys are always ranting aboutThe MG C4 is a decent ball but I personally don't think it's anywhere close to the Snell. If you are looking for a very inexpensive tour like ball then it may be what you are looking for, but if you want a moderately priced top line tour ball you will.not beat the Snell. if you can get a sleeve to try go for it, but I wouldn't spend the 20 when I can get the Snell for another 12. Again this is my opinion. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizuno_lover Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 If I could get Snell's here in Oz...I would probably be a Snell player but I can't so For me its Titleist V1x or Srixon Z Star. My Bag Driver: G25 Stiff shaft3 Wood: JPX 850 16 degree. Fujikara Orichi 65 gram stiff shaftHybrids: 3 & 4 JPX 850 Fujikara Orichi 65 gram regular shaftsIrons: MP- H5 3 - 6 iron dynamic gold XP 115 gram stiff soft steppedIrons: MP 54 4 - PW dynamic gold S300Wedges: MP T4 52 degree, 56 degree 10 degree bounce, 60 degree 10 degree bounce.Putter: ZB S Evil prospers when good men do nothing. Honorary member Texas BBQ Curtin Circa 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Since the demise of the wound ball, with which I never played well, even when that was all that there was in the 1960s, my game doesn't seem to be very ball dependent. The good thing about the Pro V1 and Pro V1x is that so many people have won with them, they sort of take away any excuses as far as golf balls go. How they're better than DT SoLos is tough to explain, however. It seems to me that the biggest difference is the stamping on the cover and of course the price. NXTs, I've never even tried to my recollection. Although my favorite original (not XL) Top Flite from the defunct Spalding golf division has long faded into history, I sometimes play Dick's cheap-ass version just for the nostalgia. I don't know what it was about wound golf balls, though. Regardless of whether they were covered in balata or surlyn (no urethane covers then), I could never club myself confidently with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 The MG C4 is a decent ball but I personally don't think it's anywhere close to the Snell. If you are looking for a very inexpensive tour like ball then it may be what you are looking for, but if you want a moderately priced top line tour ball you will.not beat the Snell. if you can get a sleeve to try go for it, but I wouldn't spend the 20 when I can get the Snell for another 12. Again this is my opinion. What do you like so much more about the Snell? For me a tour level ball is a tour level ball. Some spin slightly harder than others and some behave slightly better in the wind but other than that I find most of them similar. Durability is something I will notice from time to time but that is it. I may need to try the Snell ball if it's that much better. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbil8802 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 What do you like so much more about the Snell? For me a tour level ball is a tour level ball. Some spin slightly harder than others and some behave slightly better in the wind but other than that I find most of them similar. Durability is something I will notice from time to time but that is it. I may need to try the Snell ball if it's that much better. I gamed the MG Tour C4 for a few months at the beginning of the season. I liked it, especially at the $20 price point. For me the Snell is just better all around. Distance, spin, and it performs better in the wind. Driver - M1 9.5* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Fairway - M1 5W 19* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Hybrids - G25 4H 23* Irons - JPX 850 Forged 4-PW w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Wedges - S5 50*07, 54*12, 58*12 w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Putter - Oddyssey Metal-X #7 w/ SuperStroke Pistol GT 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhayse32 Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Well I ended up buying a dozen MG C4 balls to test out. For the price and all the solid reviews, they are worth $24.00. I will say that just from an appearance perspective, not a fan of the logo. The Snell looks much better. Still may buy a dozen Snells today so that I can test the out side by side. M1 10.5* - Tour AD BB-6X 10F.d. 13.5* - Graffaloy Bi-Matrix X 915Hd 20.5* - Aldila Tour Green T-MB 2-iron - Aldila Tour Green 716 AP2 5-PW - KBS C-Taper Lite X SM6 50/56 - DG S400 Kombi S 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Seems to me from what I read here on MGS is that the top ball for players is (in no order) Snell, MG C4, and PV1 or PV1x. I have my doubts whether any of us amateurs can truly tell much if any difference between top quality balls. "Ok Plaid, speak for yourself." As you can see under my photo to the left I'm currently a 6.5 hcp. Certainly not the most accomplished golfer here but not too bad either. I can do most things with a ball that's required to be a good or even better player. I can hit the ball high, low, left, right. I can produce more or less spin. I can make a ball check when needed. Blah, Blah, Blah. However, these things I may not do as consistently as some of you here that are certainly better players than I am. I read often that players with 12-16-28 handicaps really prefer the qualities of top balls because of X. But honestly guys.... and speaking from experience; I don't recall when I was learning and had a 18 hcp that I was concerned with all the flight characteristics (except that giant shrimp) and spinning, checking a tour quality ball can provide. I just wanted to keep the ball on the course and hopefully break 100. My swing at the time just wasn't good enough to benefit from a more expensive ball. However, players that aren't as accomplished with perhaps higher hcps might want to choose a ball that better suits their game. Balls that are designed to fly higher, or straighter, longer for example. For me and my game I can play equally well with any of the balls I mentioned at the top. No difference. They all feel and perform well. EDIT: I also love the Chrome Soft. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Seems to me from what I read here on MGS is that the top ball for players is (in no order) Snell, MG C4, and PV1 or PV1x. I have my doubts whether any of us amateurs can truly tell much if any difference between top quality balls. "Ok Plaid, speak for yourself." As you can see under my photo to the left I'm currently a 6.5 hcp. Certainly not the most accomplished golfer here but not too bad either. I can do most things with a ball that's required to be a good or even better player. I can hit the ball high, low, left, right. I can produce more or less spin. I can make a ball check when needed. Blah, Blah, Blah. However, these things I may not do as consistently as some of you here that are certainly better players than I am. I read often that players with 12-16-28 handicaps really prefer the qualities of top balls because of X. But honestly guys.... and speaking from experience; I don't recall when I was learning and had a 18 hcp that I was concerned with all the flight characteristics (except that giant shrimp) and spinning, checking a tour quality ball can provide. I just wanted to keep the ball on the course and hopefully break 100. My swing at the time just wasn't good enough to benefit from a more expensive ball. However, players that aren't as accomplished with perhaps higher hcps might want to choose a ball that better suits their game. Balls that are designed to fly higher, or straighter, longer for example. For me and my game I can play equally well with any of the balls I mentioned at the top. No difference. They all feel and perform well. EDIT: I also love the Chrome Soft. I'm a double digit handicap and I don't really notice the difference in balls as much, until I get on the green, or close to it. Distance-wise, even with a launch monitor, there's not enough distance difference to make any one ball stand out. The primary difference to me, is how it feels off the wedges and putter. I'm no stand out in the short game, I need all the help I can get, so getting reasonably close to the hole means a lot to me. That's where a "tour ball" actually makes a difference. Cheaper balls (IMHO) ARE less consistent, so even though a Bridgestone E-6 flies farther off the tee it's been far less reliable 10 feet from the hole. That might be a head game, but the E-6 is also the only ball I've ever split in half (more than once) when using my launch monitor indoors. I'm willing to give up some distance, if I feel confident that when I'm close to the hole, I have a reasonable chance of putting in it. So far, it's been the ProV1x or MG-C4, but I'm willing to give the Snell MTB a shot next Spring. What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLeo12 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Thanks Kor I will skip them. I plan on buy 6 dozen Snells they come out to $26 a dozen when you order 6 Ping G410 LST 10.5 set -1* Flat Accra TZ5 65 M5 Callaway Epic Flash 15* set -1 Aldila ATX Blue 75TX Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 19* KBS Tour V X Ben Hogan PTX Pro 4-P KBS Tour V X 2* Flat 4* loft increments Hogan Equalizer 50* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 X 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 56* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 62* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat EVNROLL ER7 P2 Aware Tour Scotty Cameron Newport2 Buttonback P2 Aware Tour Grip Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 It really goes to what Dean Snell has said in the other thread or even at his website, find the ball that works best for you in what you want the ball to do, if you want the check at or around the greens, then you most likely need a tour style ball, if you like to play the pitch and run, the tour style may check too much for you and you may need something a little less, I think the Snell MTB gives you something that is in the middle, not quite the V1x, but not the E6 either, performance wise I don't think I could find a ball that performs better, Oh, did I mention the MTB has been 15-20 yards longer off the tee for me. There are many different balls to use and try, I think what the majority are saying, that if you want a tour ball,without the tour price the Snell MTB is the way to go, if you want a ball that is similar to the tour ball, but not quite to that level, but still a good ball, and even less expensive, the MG C4 is a good alternative. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 My vote is for the Callaway Chrome Speed that was never released that is now being sold by MG Golf for $19.99 a dozen. Tour level ball at a great price. I've stockpiled about 10 dozen at this point. Love that ball. Very scuff resistent for a tour level ball too. In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 It really goes to what Dean Snell has said in the other thread or even at his website, find the ball that works best for you in what you want the ball to do, if you want the check at or around the greens, then you most likely need a tour style ball, if you like to play the pitch and run, the tour style may check too much for you and you may need something a little less, I think the Snell MTB gives you something that is in the middle, not quite the V1x, but not the E6 either, performance wise I don't think I could find a ball that performs better, Oh, did I mention the MTB has been 15-20 yards longer off the tee for me. There are many different balls to use and try, I think what the majority are saying, that if you want a tour ball,without the tour price the Snell MTB is the way to go, if you want a ball that is similar to the tour ball, but not quite to that level, but still a good ball, and even less expensive, the MG C4 is a good alternative. While its a bit hard for me to believe you gained 15 yards I do believe it's a good ball and I will try it. We shall see if it's all it stacks up to be. My guess is I will end up going back to my uber cheap 2015 ProV1X Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru_ Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Seems to me from what I read here on MGS is that the top ball for players is (in no order) Snell, MG C4, and PV1 or PV1x. I have my doubts whether any of us amateurs can truly tell much if any difference between top quality balls. "Ok Plaid, speak for yourself." As you can see under my photo to the left I'm currently a 6.5 hcp. Certainly not the most accomplished golfer here but not too bad either. I can do most things with a ball that's required to be a good or even better player. I can hit the ball high, low, left, right. I can produce more or less spin. I can make a ball check when needed. Blah, Blah, Blah. However, these things I may not do as consistently as some of you here that are certainly better players than I am. I read often that players with 12-16-28 handicaps really prefer the qualities of top balls because of X. But honestly guys.... and speaking from experience; I don't recall when I was learning and had a 18 hcp that I was concerned with all the flight characteristics (except that giant shrimp) and spinning, checking a tour quality ball can provide. I just wanted to keep the ball on the course and hopefully break 100. My swing at the time just wasn't good enough to benefit from a more expensive ball. However, players that aren't as accomplished with perhaps higher hcps might want to choose a ball that better suits their game. Balls that are designed to fly higher, or straighter, longer for example. For me and my game I can play equally well with any of the balls I mentioned at the top. No difference. They all feel and perform well. EDIT: I also love the Chrome Soft. Honestly, you nailed it. That said, I think part of the issue is being honest with where you are dropping shots when you are a 12-22 hcp. In my case, I drop most of my shots off the tee and on the green. I know going into any round of golf, that I will most likely need 36 putts to finish the round. I'll 3 putt a couple, I'll get a couple 1 putts. From 80 to 180 yards, I have a very high percentage chance of being on, or very close to the green. Outside of that? .... SQUIRREL! .... Oh yes, that is where the proverbial fecal matter impacts the rotating air moving device. Between 30 and 80 yards? Anyone got some KY jelly, cause I just put myself in an awkward position. I know this, but here is where we circle back to the ball. From 155 yards, I'm swinging a 9i, and I'm expecting that from a flat fairway lie, that ball needs to land and move no more than 3-4 feet. That is where the ball makes a difference. Pinnacle Golds are fun. They are cheap, and if all you care about is driving it 285+, then it is the ball for you, just don't expect it to hop and stop, because it won't. You can be playing with old style grooves, I don't care, that thing isn't stopping. On the other hand, this is why I look at balls like the MG C4 as such an interesting ball, and why I like and recommend it. IT is not a Pro-V1, Z-Star, B-330, or RZN Platinum, despite their ads. I think it fits the bill as more of a tweener ball, and in terms of price competitors, I think it is more like mid-line ball (NXT, Q-Star, E6, RZN Red/White/Black), but wrapped in a true urethane cover instead of surlyn. So while it may be 'long' off the tee, it uses and older dimple pattern, and older core technology. It is still good, but it isn't great, and for this long irons and hybrids, you may see some behaviors that you wouldn't with a higher end ball. But, they are soft enough on the covers, that even with a 6i, they'll spin enough to get down and stop on a green. But the real selling point, is that you get that performance into the green from a ball that is 'long enough' and doesn't hit you for $5 every time you step onto a tee box and just go full shankopotamus. Dru - Owner, President & Janitor, Druware Software Designs RH 13.1 Handicap in soggy Georgia WITB * 1W 10.5* @ PXG 0211 ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 3W PXG 0211 ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 5W 18* Tailor-made AeroBurner ( Stock Stiff ) * 7W Sub70 949x ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 5i-PW @ PXG 0211 ( Gen 1 ) * 52 @ Hogan Equalizer * 56 @ Sub70 * 60 @ Hogan Equalizer * Carbon Ringo 1/4 * Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 While its a bit hard for me to believe you gained 15 yards I do believe it's a good ball and I will try it. We shall see if it's all it stacks up to be. My guess is I will end up going back to my uber cheap 2015 ProV1X It is what it is, I was at least 15 yards farther, but when I use the same clubs from tee to tee each week, it's pretty clear when I am quite a bit farther down the fairway than I usually am. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrodeur86 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I've ordered the mg c4 to try out against the snell ball. Heard nothing but good things from it and for the price it's worth a shot DRIVER: Stealth 2, 9* Upright setting, Mitsubishi Kai' Li red, 60g Stiff flex, New grip coming Woods: Sim Max 3 Wood, 15*, Fujikura Ventus 6 Blue 65g, Stiff flex, New grip coming HYBRIDS: JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, New grip coming IRONS: MP-20 HMB 4 iron, Project X LZ 6.5 shaft, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grip JPX 919 Tour 5i-pw, Project X LZ 6.5 shafts, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grips WEDGES: New Level Golf 50*, 55*, 60* M-Type Wedges with True Temper Elevate Tour X-Stiff flex, New Level Midsize grips PUTTER: Heppler Ketsch 35", Ping PP62 Pistol Grip BALL: Pro V1 (2021 + 2023 Versions) BAG: TM19 Select Plus Cart Bag Shoes: Under Armour HOVR Fade 2 SL Spikeless Shoes Tech: NX7 Pro Slope golf laser Rangefinder Frogger Golf Towels, 4 more Yard blue/ yellow golf tees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhayse32 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 My vote is for the Callaway Chrome Speed that was never released that is now being sold by MG Golf for $19.99 a dozen. Tour level ball at a great price. I've stockpiled about 10 dozen at this point. Love that ball. Very scuff resistent for a tour level ball too. Ok call me stupid, but why is MG selling these and why are they not in stores? I am just confused I guess.. So I got my MGC4 in yesterday. My buddy got some Snell MTBs as well so I would snap some good pics and do a comparison. Haven't hit them yet but the MG felt great, just like any other high quality tour ball. Again this is purely from a visual standpoint, but the logo just isn't appealing...it make the ball look "cheap". Regardless, that doesn't effect play. M1 10.5* - Tour AD BB-6X 10F.d. 13.5* - Graffaloy Bi-Matrix X 915Hd 20.5* - Aldila Tour Green T-MB 2-iron - Aldila Tour Green 716 AP2 5-PW - KBS C-Taper Lite X SM6 50/56 - DG S400 Kombi S 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ok call me stupid, but why is MG selling these and why are they not in stores? I am just confused I guess.. So I got my MGC4 in yesterday. My buddy got some Snell MTBs as well so I would snap some good pics and do a comparison. Haven't hit them yet but the MG felt great, just like any other high quality tour ball. Again this is purely from a visual standpoint, but the logo just isn't appealing...it make the ball look "cheap". Regardless, that doesn't effect play. Technically I don't think they were ever released. It's the version Phil plays(or at least something similar). Callaway doesn't want to advertise a super cheap version of their ball so why not sell the lot to MG to keep from a loss on the material. Win win for both companies in my mind. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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