revkev 21,124 #21 Posted November 3, 2015 Okay I've got another wrinkle (or knuckle should I say.) My former teacher had me strengthen my grip significantly. It work to an extent but of late I've been struggling with the driver. My current teacher is encouraging a more neutral (not weak) grip with my right hand. I find that I hit my irons and even fairway woods much better that way but I struggle with hooking the driver - ee gads! I'm wondering if this doesn't happen because I have a significantly positive AoA with the driver. I'm going to try the neutral grip (over lapping) through the bag and just scooting that right hand stronger with driver only to see what happens on the range today and then on the course on Friday. My experience with the 10 finger has been exactly what Nifty described. I played baseball with it and had those old heavy wooden bats (I also used the whole field - the Royals do to - what worked then still works today). I will hit the heck out of some with the 10 finger grip but am not at all consistent with it because my hands never seem to sync up. Quote Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood G30 6-PW - Aerotech FT 500 shafts SCOR 48,52,56,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dru_ 275 #22 Posted November 3, 2015 So... I have to admit to something here. I use both, but it isn't what you think. With most of my clubs and full swings I use an interlock. However, as I get into closer ranges where I want more control and feel with partial swings, I move to a 10 finger and no glove. Like most, I find that with the 10 finger setup I have a tendency to pull things a little left, so I have to adapt to that, but with some practice, it becomes very natural. That said, it took a long time to understand the why and how. Now I really do prefer the 10 finger on the partials, and it has quietly become a strong part of my game (most weeks, not the last week though) 2 Quote Dru - Owner, President & Janitor, Druware Software Designs RH 18.0 Handicap in soggy Georgia WITB * 1W 10.5* @ Hogan GS53 ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 3W Hogan GS52 ( HZRDUS Smoke Black X-Stiff ) * 5W 18* Tailor-made AeroBurner ( Stock Stiff ) * 4I-AW @ Hogan Ft Worth * 56 @ Cleveland RTX * 60 @ Hogan Equalizer * Carbon Ringo 1/4 * Snell MTB-X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revkev 21,124 #23 Posted November 3, 2015 This is too much fun - we're all over the place aren't we. I love these days when I'm working from home and I can stay on real time. 1 Quote Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood G30 6-PW - Aerotech FT 500 shafts SCOR 48,52,56,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 19,906 #24 Posted November 3, 2015 Rev, I thought that a strong right hand grip would lead to more hooking. I strengthened my grip a few weeks ago and was hitting the driver pretty well for awhile, but this last weekend in the wind, it was quack, quack; back to a more neutral right hand grip. 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revkev 21,124 #25 Posted November 3, 2015 Yes Kenny you would think - but it isn't the case with the driver - for me (the key ingredient here.) My former pro's argument is that a strong grip puts a player in a good hitting position at set up. He wants the right shoulder lower than the left at set up and impact. For me that's great for the driver but not always sustainable with the irons. I haven't a clue why I hook with a more neutral grip with the driver other than the fact that my default miss always seems to be the hook (with an occasional block for good measure.) Quote Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood G30 6-PW - Aerotech FT 500 shafts SCOR 48,52,56,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 19,906 #26 Posted November 3, 2015 Did we formally hijack this thread? Sorry about that. My coach wants we to have my right shoulder a lot lower than I have it at address and impact. My tendency is to straighten up at impact, and I think it was due to the years of pain in the left knee keeping me from getting to my right side. I'm working on it now that it doesn't hurt but it's now an old habit. But, back to the 10 (well 8 finger) finger grip, I really only grip the club with the last 3 fingers of each hand. The index finger of the left hand is only on the club for the ride, and the right index finger (I call it the trigger finger) is separated from the fingers. I try to keep both hands as close together as possible, almost like the overlap. More separation of the hands reduces the leverage angle that can be achieved, and thus speed. 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NiftyNiblick 1,930 #27 Posted November 3, 2015 My coach died in the late eighties. God rest his kind soul. Can't imagine finding a coach now who's willing to work with what's left of me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DownInOne 63 #28 Posted May 24, 2016 I used to be an interlocking type when I first started but one day I just started using ten and never looked back. I feel like I have insanely better ball striking because of it. I also have a Moe Norman strong grip but it keeps my hands forward and as long as I keep the back of my left hand to the target all is well. Occasionally, I will turn my left hand to the left and hook but usually its all good in the hood! 1 Quote Driver: D200 13 Degree3 Wood: D200 15 Degree5 Wood: D200 18 Degree4th: D200 22 Degree5-P FG Tour V4Gap: FG TourSand: FG TourLob: FG TourPutter: Directed Force "Reno" Putter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlaidJacket 7,704 #29 Posted May 25, 2016 interesting this topic came back up.... I'm still using the full-finger grip method and can't see myself changing back. I don't have large hands... average I suppose. Since I changed to the 10-finger grip my game has improved in all aspects. Much improved ball striking... more solid and flush more often. It feels natural to me now. 1 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GolfSpy Stroker 9,755 #30 Posted July 30, 2016 After running across this post the other day I gave it a shot on the course today. I typically use the overlap grip so it wasn't a drastic change but it took me a bit to get it down. I was deathly afraid of hooking the ball by gripping too tight with the right hand and that left me hitting some high fades. After I figured it out I was able to really get the feel of it. I think it gave me the sense that I had a lot more control of the clubhead; going to take a bit more practice but after reading this and some other articles on the web I might be a convert! ... hit one of my longest drives in a while with it (290) and some great 3w shots (250). 2 Quote StrokerAce EXS 220 HZRDUS Smoke King F7 3w Fujikara Apex 20 Catalyst 6.0 Apex 23 Catalyst 6.0 -------------------------- Z785 KBS CTaper lite RTX Zipcore 54/58 Sigma G Kinloch C -------------------------- nx7 pro rangefinder C130 cart bag Franklin, MA; Right Handed; 10 "the club face sends it, the path bends it..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undershooter 4,022 #31 Posted July 30, 2016 Johnny Vegas uses a 10 finger if I'm not mistaken. 1 Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44" Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts and Titleist Vokey 60* M grind Putter- Never Compromise Dinero Mogul Ball- Bridgestone Tour B XS Bag- Ogio Aquatech Cart Bag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireinthehole 668 #32 Posted July 31, 2016 After running across this post the other day I gave it a shot on the course today. I typically use the overlap grip so it wasn't a drastic change but it took me a bit to get it down. I was deathly afraid of hooking the ball by gripping too tight with the right hand and that left me hitting some high fades. After I figured it out I was able to really get the feel of it. I think it gave me the sense that I had a lot more control of the clubhead; going to take a bit more practice but after reading this and some other articles on the web I might be a convert! ... hit one of my longest drives in a while with it (290) and some great 3w shots (250). . Scott piercy uses it as well. Got to play what's comfortable is what he says Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app 2 Quote My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Rogue 9*, UST chrome 7F5T Fairway: M5 3 wood, UST chrome 7F5T Irons: TMB 3i & MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Voke SM7 LTD Jet Black Putter: Queen Bee #9 Ball: Z star XV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlaidJacket 7,704 #33 Posted July 31, 2016 Almost a year has passed since I starting using the FFG. It's been a winner for my game. 2 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fozcycle 10,538 #34 Posted July 31, 2016 PJ, I grew up in the 1950's and my Grandfather taught me to use the interlocking grip. In the early 1980's I worked on grip change from interlocking to overlapping....it took all summer, but when I was through, my Hcap had dropped from 15 to 10. Today, I still use the overlapping grip. However, your discussion has intrigued me. I just may give it a go in the very near future. I'll let you know how it turns out. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy mobile app 2 Quote Driver: Tour Edge Exotics EXS w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Fairways: Cobra King F8 3W(14.5*) & 5W(18.5*) w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Hybrids: Tour Edge CBX 119 4H(22*) with Project X Evenflo regular shaft Irons: Wilson Staff D7 5 - PW w/Recoil 460 regular shafts Wedges: Wilson D7 GW(48*) & SW(54*) Cobra King F8 LW(58*)all wedges have Recoil 460 regular shafts Putter: 33" Bellum-Winmore 707 putter Bag: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag(Peacoat Blue). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlaidJacket 7,704 #35 Posted August 1, 2016 PJ, I grew up in the 1950's and my Grandfather taught me to use the interlocking grip. In the early 1980's I worked on grip change from interlocking to overlapping....it took all summer, but when I was through, my Hcap had dropped from 15 to 10. Today, I still use the overlapping grip. However, your discussion has intrigued me. I just may give it a go in the very near future. I'll let you know how it turns out. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy mobile app I'm never going to try and talk anyone into playing with a FFG. (not to be confused with a Full Figured Gal) Like you Foz I played my entire career using an overlap grip. Another thing that has happened is that I seem to Trap the ball a little better. Is that a good thing? Seems to be. Give it a try and see what you think. For me it was an easy change. 2 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fozcycle 10,538 #36 Posted August 1, 2016 Thanks PJ, this is the essence of My Golf Spy.........relationships that develop over the web that causes discussion to further enhance our enjoyment of Golf. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy mobile app 2 Quote Driver: Tour Edge Exotics EXS w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Fairways: Cobra King F8 3W(14.5*) & 5W(18.5*) w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Hybrids: Tour Edge CBX 119 4H(22*) with Project X Evenflo regular shaft Irons: Wilson Staff D7 5 - PW w/Recoil 460 regular shafts Wedges: Wilson D7 GW(48*) & SW(54*) Cobra King F8 LW(58*)all wedges have Recoil 460 regular shafts Putter: 33" Bellum-Winmore 707 putter Bag: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag(Peacoat Blue). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvs0002 9 #37 Posted August 2, 2016 PJ, Did you go to FFG on the driver or did you continue to use the overlap? Last year you were using a bit of both. Just wondered how it worked out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlaidJacket 7,704 #38 Posted August 2, 2016 Rvs... I use the FFG on everything now. You're right.... at first for some reason I struggled a bit with my driver using the FFG. But that didn't last long. I only had to commit. I will say this; at times I tend to get a tad strong with my right hand but that's easy to correct if I'm conscious. When I'm playing well (which lately I've not been - hcp went up a full point in July) I tend to hit a nice controlled draw somewhat trapping the ball a bit. It's been good. Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvs0002 9 #39 Posted August 3, 2016 Thanks. I'm getting ready to make the transition for the rest of the year and see what happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrudlerAce 29 #40 Posted August 18, 2016 I started using the 10 finger grip when I first started playing golf. It worked okay for a while but eventually changed to an interlocking then back to overlapping. It's a personal choice and I'd say if you're playing well with it stick to it. There are so many ways to play this game and what works for others doesn't always work for you. 3 Quote Mizuno MP-25 irons, R/H, N.S. Pro 950GH regular shafts Cobra King LTD 8.5 degrees driver, R/H stiff Aldila Rogue shaft Titleist 3-wood 915F, 15 degrees, Diamana stiff flex shaft Queensland, Australia Handicap 5 www.HittingItSolid.com The Perfect Golf Swing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
