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While I don't share HIS disability, I DO have a severe enough hearing loss to be considered legally "disabled" under the ADA.  FWIW, I think most of us that have some form of disability realize our own limitations, and what accommodations are reasonable.

 

Unfortunately, there are some that think the legal system can "fix" the reality they have to live with.

 

As this is a private club, I feel strongly the decision should be up to them.

 

If I had to use the legal system to FORCE a business to afford me service, WHY would I want to do business with them at all?

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Everyone seems to be missing the point.  Yes, it's a private club but it holds public functions.  Think of this:  The Club sponsors a golf scramble for a local hospital charity and it is open to the public; anyone is eligible to play in the event.  He played there before his disability, but now he can't play in it because the Club doesn't accommodate his disability.  Should they?  But at what expense?

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He's a partially disabled activist. If my lawn mower is disabled it doesn't work. At all. My lawn mower may be partially disabled because the power drive feature doesn't work. But it still cuts the grass. Look, I'm all for helping someone who needs accommodation or assistance in certain situations. But please... if I'm going to make special accommodation for you so you can drive your scooter right up next to the edge of the green don't feel like you are being down wrong by insisting that's not good enough by suing me because I won't let you drive your scooter/golf cart across the greens. How about showing some respect and accommodation for the rest of us? Hmmm?

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Everyone seems to be missing the point.  Yes, it's a private club but it holds public functions.  Think of this:  The Club sponsors a golf scramble for a local hospital charity and it is open to the public; anyone is eligible to play in the event.  He played there before his disability, but now he can't play in it because the Club doesn't accommodate his disability.  Should they?  But at what expense?

Most clubs that hold outings still have in their contracts that the participants in the outing must abide by club rules.  Having an outing for non-members does not get them to the arena of a public facility since the group invited is still not considered the general public.  I have been in one of these battles before (not golf related, buy analogous nonetheless) and that was the grounds we proceeded on and have won twice.

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So we are assuming the course is right and the guy is damaging the greens?

 

Has that fact been establishe? I've visted a lot of people convicted of lots of different crimes. I Only remember one saying that he actually did what he was accused of. I'm guessing others probably did too. :)

 

I'm not buying that he was driving on greens until it's proven that he did. Just as plausible is the possibility that the club made certain concessions and then some members complained and now they are trying to back track.

 

My club made it clear to my family that they would not be able to make changes to the pool when we joined. No problem, they were open and honest up front. They do allow us to bring an aid for Penny without the aid paying a guest fee. We reached a reasonable agreement. Why are we assuming that it's the guy who is being unreasonable and not the club or its members?

 

Whoever said it earlier is right, without all the facts you can't know. So I'm moving on to something else.

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So we are assuming the course is right and the guy is damaging the greens?

 

Has that fact been establishe? I've visted a lot of people convicted of lots of different crimes. I Only remember one saying that he actually did what he was accused of. I'm guessing others probably did too. :)

 

I'm not buying that he was driving on greens until it's proven that he did. Just as plausible is the possibility that the club made certain concessions and then some members complained and now they are trying to back track.

 

My club made it clear to my family that they would not be able to make changes to the pool when we joined. No problem, they were open and honest up front. They do allow us to bring an aid for Penny without the aid paying a guest fee. We reached a reasonable agreement. Why are we assuming that it's the guy who is being unreasonable and not the club or its members?

 

Whoever said it earlier is right, without all the facts you can't know. So I'm moving on to something else.

I don't know if he is damaging the greens or not.  They say he is, he say's he isn't.  He is referencing using this cart: http://www.solorider.com/ which advertises it can be driven on greens w/out damaging them.  Note in the article the course says it is damaging the greens and he says "they are wrong", not "I'm not driving on the greens".  He also says "it is lighter than mowers", and I believe he means greens mowers.  Nonetheless if the course can demonstrate that the cart does indeed do damage to the greens then I think they have a case in court.

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Discrimination by a PRIVATE club? Really? Go play all the other courses that you're allowed to play. Grow up and move on. I'm sick of this lawsuit happy society we live in.

AMEN!!!  Especially the lawsuit happy society part of it....so so true.

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I don't know if he is damaging the greens or not.  They say he is, he say's he isn't.  He is referencing using this cart: http://www.solorider.com/ which advertises it can be driven on greens w/out damaging them.  Note in the article the course says it is damaging the greens and he says "they are wrong", not "I'm not driving on the greens".  He also says "it is lighter than mowers", and I believe he means greens mowers.  Nonetheless if the course can demonstrate that the cart does indeed do damage to the greens then I think they have a case in court.

Well, according to SoloRider website, they are in Plano TX.  I wonder how much testing they have done in other parts of the country.  Just sayin......

 

Also, would be interesting to know if the club in question uses riding greens mowers or now.  I know of quite a number of clubs with soft greens that do not use riding greens mowers.  They mow them with some really slick operate by hand mowers.  Very quick and efficient but obviously not as quick as riding mowers.  

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