By Ryan Pb
Have been going through a complete overhaul of my bag the last 2 seasons.
Have upgraded Driver, 3 wood (both Cobra)
irons just this year with some custom fit M5s
now looking to upgrade wedges and putters
Im about a 13 handicap. But have been always been a better than average putter.
Looking for a new Blade style putter. Read the recent testing review article but just wanted to see if anyone had any personal recommendations or feed back.
Wedges I am open to anything although I have been playing with a 56 and 60 degree last few years.
Thanks for reading and look forward to hearing what you guys have to say.
Saw this in a newsletter from On Core; TK "keeping it real" on what most am players should (or not) be looking for in their wedges.......
By Mr. Shank Dawg
Great forum, great community, and I am sure one of the knowledgeable members has come across this question before (or, can point me in the right direction). I have used the search bar some to pin point this topic to some effect, but haven't come across the answer that satisfies my curiosity. I already know and understand a dynamic fitting and static fitting work best for shaft fitting and it's hard to beat a good (and patient) fitter.
My question pertains to online iron shaft fitting/recommendations from most of the shaft manufacturers and/or online fitting services: How relevant is a question regarding iron distance (say, 6i carry) when your current 6i loft and the set you are interested in purchasing is different? I could ,theoretically, hit my 6i 170 yards using a 26* loft but only hit my buddies 6i 155 yards using 29*...these are just relative numbers to express a questionable point... with all other variables being the same (relatively speaking) but loft.
My interpretation of the line of questions for iron shaft recommendation is that it is generating results based on flight and dispersion preferences along with swing speed/power/carry distance. However, if my current 6i is 26* and is allowing me to move the ball 170yds down the fairway, how good is the online fitting tool going to be if the new set I am interested in has a more traditional loft to it? Am I totally off base in this line of thinking? Are the manufacturers shaft recommendations useless?
Again, I apologize if this has already been discussed ad nauseam. Happy golfing!
I received these wedges a few weeks ago from the Golfworks, and I thought I better post something since I had asked for opinions about them in another thread. I'll do my best to make this as real of a review as possible.
I ordered 54-degree mid-sole and 60-degree wide sole M+ Series wedges with regular shafts from Golfworks for my birthday. I have completely rebuilt my bag over the past few months. Prior to owning these wedges, I only played with a 50-degree gap wedge from my old iron set and a 56-degree Nike SV Tour wedge that was almost exclusively used for flop type shots.
The gap wedge in my Wilson C300 irons is 48 degrees, so these fit in six-degree increments from my irons.
These were part of what Golfworks calls "Club Paks," which are grips, shafts, ferrules and heads sold for cheaper than the individual component cost. They also come with free assembly if you so desire. I opted for free assembly as I don't have my golf workshop fully setup (or even stocked!) yet.
Golfworks offers three different sole widths (tour, mid, wide) from 50 degrees to 62 degrees in two degree increments. The packs offer a choice of regular or stiff shaft and undersize, standard, midsize or oversize grip.
The package I purchased included the wedge head, a KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 regular flex wedge shaft, ferrule and a standard Lamkin Crossline grip. Each package cost $52.99. For two wedges, with taxes and shipping, I paid $123.99 total, or about $62 each.
First, some pictures for those interested. Please note these pictures were taken after an indoor range session. The ball marks were not there when purchased!
Customer Service and Shipping
I placed the order in mid-January, requesting free assembly and the clubs to be assembled to +1/2" from the Golfworks standard. The C300s are +1/2" from standard Golfworks lengths as well, so by opting to make the wedges a little longer they fit into the C300 lengths.
Almost immediately I received a call from someone at Golfworks confirming I was requesting the clubs be built longer than their normal standard. I unfortunately missed this call and neglected to check my voicemail for more than a week. Whoops. Thankfully, within the next week someone else reached out to me and this time I caught the message.
After calling to confirm the length, I also received a follow up email confirming my build specs. On this email I was able to request the grip be placed logo up and the shaft label to be placed logo down. Once the order was released to the club builders, it took only a day or two for it to ship Priority Mail, and then just another two days to receive the clubs.
The clubs were securely packaged in transport and were received in perfect condition.
These seem to be built very well for the price. The heads look very finished. The black DBM finish Golfworks uses is very nice, and it is supposed to hold up much better than PVD. The grips were put on straight and the Crosslines feel as expected (the C300s come stock with Crosslines as well). Perhaps the only thing I could say is that the ferrules were not buffed to a perfectly smooth surface. Small gripe, I know.
Size / Shape / Etc.
I don't feel I am overly picky with wedges. The head shape seems traditional, not too big or small, and fits my eye fine. Black finish is matte and shouldn't cause any problems with glare.
I opted for the wide sole 60-degree wedge as an "easy to swing" option from the sand or close to the green. You cannot really open the 60-degree up because of the wide sole. Until I can get out on the course and actually play, I don't know how this will affect my use of this club. I do think it will be very nice from thick rough as the wider sole should help keep the club face from being grabbed too much.
The mid-sole 54-degree wedge has the perfect sole width for what I envision its use to be -- nearly full swing shots from the fairway. It feels more like my short irons than a "blade-y" wedge.
I would probably opt for the mid-sole on the 60-degree wedge if I could go back in time.
Feel / Playability
I got a chance to hit a few range balls two weekends ago. I don't particularly care for hitting wedges from mats, but I probably hit 10 balls or so with each club. As you may be able to see in the pictures, I had a few poor strikes and a few good ones.
The new grooves and milled face definitely shredded some cover off of the balls. I am still working on some swing changes, so there were some ugly hooks mixed in, but I was impressed with the ease of which the Hi-Revs launched and the stopping power. Using the 60-degree wedge I was able to get a ball to stay on the ice-covered 70-yard green, impressive to say the least.
I was also able to hit the 54-degree wedge consistent in the 70-100 yard range, which is my expected use case.
Because I ordered these +1/2", they come in a little heavier than standard specs. Based on my cheap Golfworks scale, they both are about at D6 swingweight. For comparison, my C300s are D2 across the set.
I won't be able to play outdoors for another few weeks at the earliest, but I am excited to get these into real action.
Final Thoughts (For now...)
I think these are an excellent value for $62, especially given the more expensive shaft option. They do have cheaper "pak" options with this head in the $40 range as well. I doubt there is a ton of reason to spend more on a wedge.
Golfworks also routinely runs a free shipping promotion on orders greater than $60, so you can save a couple more dollars by waiting for that as well.
My biggest concern at this point is whether the regular flex shafts were too soft of a choice, though I won't know for sure until I get out on the course.
Matt Saternus (used to be with MGS) of PluggedInGolf.com posted an interesting article...
"Do wedge shafts matter?"
He tested in a similar style to MGS using a variety of recreational players and identical wedge heads with different shafts, then swapping them among the players and having them hit different short game shots. Results are measured by Trackman at a Club Champion.
The questions he was looking to "Confirm" or "Bust" include...
Myth #1 – A wedge shaft can create more spin
Myth #2 – A wedge shaft can change launch angle
Myth #3 – A wedge shaft can improve accuracy
Myth #4 – A wedge shaft can improve consistency
Myth #5 – The same shaft will fit all your wedges
Interesting and informative article .. worth a look!
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