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There is no need to "loft up" with the 2015 SLDR-C Series Driver....I went from a 12* Tour issue SLDR 430 (actual 11.3*), down to 9.5* on the SLDR C-Series Driver and trajectory is the same.  (9.5* is actually the loft I have played for most of my life),  

 

Seems the original 2013/2014 SLDR's were very much the exception, and not the rule for how TaylorMade measures the loft that is stamped on the sole plate. 


What's in Bobcat's Bag?  (Showing more than 14 clubs due to options)

 

Driver: :taylormade-small: 9.5* SLDR-C - 45.5" Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s, (1/2" tip)

Fairway: :taylormade-small: Tour issue 15* V-Steel 3W - Fujikura 757 Speeder Stiff

Fairway/Hybrid: :taylormade-small: 15* Rescue Fairway "3-Strong" - VP-90 Stiff 

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: #3 (19*) & #4 (22*) Rescue-Mid TP's - Vista Pro 90 Stiff 

Driving Irons: :taylormade-small: UDI #1 (16*) & #3 (20*) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Iron Set: :taylormade-small: SLDR Irons (5-8i only) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Hybrid Wedges: :cleveland-small: 2011 Niblicks 42*PW, 49*DW, 56*SW - Stock

SW/LW: :cleveland-small: CG-16 Black Pearl 58* Low Bounce 8* - Stock Steel Shaft

Putter: :bettinardi-small: BBX-81 Blade - Stock Bettinardi Steel Shaft 

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That's super interesting. And I have to say that after this conversation and looking at those charts I think am M1 430 needs to be in the cards for me. That CG placement in the draw setting would really help me I think. I'm a high spin player and really need to drop that this season. My G30 LS Tec just isn't cutting it.


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I've been playing the new Bridgestone JGR driver now for 2 weeks, and there is no way I am going back to my SLDR.  


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I just went to a demo day at our club to find a replacement for my Adams. Got there late, so only had a chance to test Cobra.

 

King LTD with Chrome Elements 6 beat my gamer by about 20 yards (measured on a Flightscope)

 

The sound of the LTD was much better than then F6, that's for sure.

 

But damn... 499 EUR for a driver? That's insane.


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I just went to a demo day at our club to find a replacement for my Adams. Got there late, so only had a chance to test Cobra.

 

King LTD with Chrome Elements 6 beat my gamer by about 20 yards (measured on a Flightscope)

 

The sound of the LTD was much better than then F6, that's for sure.

 

But damn... 499 EUR for a driver? That's insane.

There's always eBay


Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

Putter:   :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot

 

 

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There's always eBay

 

Usually eBay works better for last season's gear.

For the current line-up it's still close to USD 400.

Add $50 for shipping to Germany and 22% import tax and you end up with the same price locally :D

 

I guess I'll have to wait until the LTD is no longer the newest/shiniest ;)

 

BTW, I don't want my results to reflect any of the marketing mumbo-jumbo where the OEM promises 20 yards instantly... instead, let people know that a fitted driver does bring benefits compared to off-the-rack offerings (in my case, the Adams was a stock offering).

 

EDIT: hckymeyer, how did you not get along with this driver? :D


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There is no need to "loft up" with the 2015 SLDR-C Series Driver....I went from a 12* Tour issue SLDR 430 (actual 11.3*), down to 9.5* on the SLDR C-Series Driver and trajectory is the same. (9.5* is actually the loft I have played for most of my life),

 

Seems the original 2013/2014 SLDR's were very much the exception, and not the rule for how TaylorMade measures the loft that is stamped on the sole plate.

 

The reason it's similar is because the 9.5* that's stamped on your c series is really closer to 10.5 or 11*. They generally stamp lower loft numbers than is actually on the club. Original SLDR is the exception.

Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44"
Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5"

Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions)

Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X
          Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5

          Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5

Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set.  50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts

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Yes...As I stated before, with the 2015 SLDR-C's loft measurement, TM returned  to the more "traditional" loft measurement stamping.  The original charcoal gray and silver SLDR Drivers (from 2013 and 2014) were very much the exception in loft, which is why players had to "loft up" to get the same trajectory they were used to with other drivers that had lower lofts on the soleplate.  I had to loft up to a 12* in the Tour 430, (actual 11.3*), which kind of blew me away, because I never needed a loft that high with any other driver.  Now, with the (gloss black) 2015 SLDR-C Driver I am back to 9.5* which is the driver loft I have used for most of my life, and is usually the best loft for me.

 

Having played all all the SLDR's , I much prefer the 9.5* 2015 SLDR-C with a premium shaft. It gives me consistent long, straight drives with loads of forgiveness and it seems quite effortless...basically a point-and-shoot type of driver.  It doesn't make me work nearly as hard for great drives as the 12* SLDR 430 did, which is why I recommended it.


What's in Bobcat's Bag?  (Showing more than 14 clubs due to options)

 

Driver: :taylormade-small: 9.5* SLDR-C - 45.5" Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s, (1/2" tip)

Fairway: :taylormade-small: Tour issue 15* V-Steel 3W - Fujikura 757 Speeder Stiff

Fairway/Hybrid: :taylormade-small: 15* Rescue Fairway "3-Strong" - VP-90 Stiff 

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: #3 (19*) & #4 (22*) Rescue-Mid TP's - Vista Pro 90 Stiff 

Driving Irons: :taylormade-small: UDI #1 (16*) & #3 (20*) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Iron Set: :taylormade-small: SLDR Irons (5-8i only) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Hybrid Wedges: :cleveland-small: 2011 Niblicks 42*PW, 49*DW, 56*SW - Stock

SW/LW: :cleveland-small: CG-16 Black Pearl 58* Low Bounce 8* - Stock Steel Shaft

Putter: :bettinardi-small: BBX-81 Blade - Stock Bettinardi Steel Shaft 

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3rd round playing the F6+ AD BB combo.  All I can say at this point is that it's very consistent.  I don't feel like I have the occasional bombs that I did with the SLDR, but at the same time I don't have the occasional snap hooks that I had with it either.

 

Still have no idea why this has happened, but when I put the weight all the way forward I hit nothing but high fades, when I put the weight all the way back the trajectory comes down and I can hit straight balls again.  Basically the exact opposite of how it's supposed to work.

 

Wife got me a driver fitting for my birthday so I play on doing that soon and I'll see how the numbers shake out.

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Driver: :callaway-logo-1: Epic SZ w/ VA Composites Raijin 65 04

3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :ping-small: 5i-UW G700 w/ X100 soft stepped once

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 54 & 58 CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Putter: :odyssey-small: Red 7s

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Just regripped my SLDR for the first time since I got it. Hope it doesn't lose its magic lol

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Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

Putter:   :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot

 

 

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So if you take the loft up models of the SLDR, and loft it down, would you be creating a club that would be similar to the Callaway Sub Zero. if the idea of lofting up is to be able to get that particular club in the air, isnt that what Cally is doing, instead of lofting it up they are using swing type along with swing speed to get the ball up in the air. Seems like the same technology, one is marketing the masses, and the other is marketing a specific type.


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3rd round playing the F6+ AD BB combo.  All I can say at this point is that it's very consistent.  I don't feel like I have the occasional bombs that I did with the SLDR, but at the same time I don't have the occasional snap hooks that I had with it either.

 

Doesn't the sound of the F6+ bother you? For me it was almost as bad as the Nike SQ Sumo2


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Doesn't the sound of the F6+ bother you? For me it was almost as bad as the Nike SQ Sumo2

Sound doesn't really affect me.  I'm more concerned with where the ball goes, than how it sounds getting there.


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3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :ping-small: 5i-UW G700 w/ X100 soft stepped once

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Yes...As I stated before, with the 2015 SLDR-C's loft measurement, TM returned  to the more "traditional" loft measurement stamping.  The original charcoal gray and silver SLDR Drivers (from 2013 and 2014) were very much the exception in loft, which is why players had to "loft up" to get the same trajectory they were used to with other drivers that had lower lofts on the soleplate.  I had to loft up to a 12* in the Tour 430, (actual 11.3*), which kind of blew me away, because I never needed a loft that high with any other driver.  Now, with the (gloss black) 2015 SLDR-C Driver I am back to 9.5* which is the driver loft I have used for most of my life, and is usually the best loft for me.

 

Having played all all the SLDR's , I much prefer the 9.5* 2015 SLDR-C with a premium shaft. It gives me consistent long, straight drives with loads of forgiveness and it seems quite effortless...basically a point-and-shoot type of driver.  It doesn't make me work nearly as hard for great drives as the 12* SLDR 430 did, which is why I recommended it.

Lol so you're more happy with a miss-stamped driver head that claims Its lower loft? Whatever floats your boat man but the SLDR-c is just basically a SLDR-s with a worse shaft and a paint job. (Although you have rectified the shaft issue)

Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44"
Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5"

Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions)

Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X
          Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5

          Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5

Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set.  50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts

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That's up there with a Drop-Kick Stinger.

 

 

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Hahahahaha I have got to keep those shot descriptions in the bag! I've got a buddy who is prone to the random 3 wood flop shot from the fairway. Most mind-boggling shot I've ever seen!

 

 

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Lol so you're more happy with a miss-stamped driver head that claims Its lower loft? Whatever floats your boat man but the SLDR-c is just basically a SLDR-s with a worse shaft and a paint job. (Although you have rectified the shaft issue)

 

You are obviously quite clueless about the SLDR-C Driver.  Fact is, it is a totally different clubhead than the Silver "S" or the original Charcoal Gray SLDR 460cc Driver.  The SLDR-C is a completely different clubhead shape with a lower profile crown and a clubface that is wider from heel-to-toe than the origiinal 460cc or the "S".  If you had actually compared the heads up close you would know this, so you are clearly just spouting off B.S. here.

 

Before criticizing my driver choice you should at least educate yourself.  When you do an up close comparison AND compare performance, the differences in the "C" vs the other SLDR's are quite obvious indeed, and as for the color, the new gloss black color looks GREAT on this new SLDR head, (contrary to what you said above).  

 

BTW, although I don't play it, the TM "57" stock shaft is the same co-engineered stock shaft used in the original SLDR, just slightly different TM SLDR graphics with the Fujikura name removed.  TM moved away from the using the "made for" shaft graphics in 2015 and no longer pays royalties to Fujikura in exchange for using their name on TM shafts.  (You may have noted that the stock shafts for TM's  M-Family use the shaft manufacturer's graphics, so TM's "made for" graphics on driver shafts appear to be history now).  The SLDR-C's stock 57 shaft probably fits a fairly wide array of players as TM says, but it's not for me.  I prefer the premium Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s.  (I used the upgraded "TP" Tourspec 7.3 shaft in the original SLDR 430/460 Drivers so upgraded shafts are the norm for me).

 

Hopefully this clears up the clueless and false assumptions made by "Undershooter30" about the 2015 SLDR-C Driver.  


What's in Bobcat's Bag?  (Showing more than 14 clubs due to options)

 

Driver: :taylormade-small: 9.5* SLDR-C - 45.5" Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s, (1/2" tip)

Fairway: :taylormade-small: Tour issue 15* V-Steel 3W - Fujikura 757 Speeder Stiff

Fairway/Hybrid: :taylormade-small: 15* Rescue Fairway "3-Strong" - VP-90 Stiff 

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: #3 (19*) & #4 (22*) Rescue-Mid TP's - Vista Pro 90 Stiff 

Driving Irons: :taylormade-small: UDI #1 (16*) & #3 (20*) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Iron Set: :taylormade-small: SLDR Irons (5-8i only) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Hybrid Wedges: :cleveland-small: 2011 Niblicks 42*PW, 49*DW, 56*SW - Stock

SW/LW: :cleveland-small: CG-16 Black Pearl 58* Low Bounce 8* - Stock Steel Shaft

Putter: :bettinardi-small: BBX-81 Blade - Stock Bettinardi Steel Shaft 

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You are obviously quite clueless about the SLDR-C Driver.  Fact is, it is a totally different clubhead than the Silver "S" or the original Charcoal Gray SLDR 460cc Driver.  The SLDR-C is a completely different clubhead shape. If you had actually compared the heads up close you would know this, so you are clearly just spouting B.S. here.

 

Before criticizing my driver choice you should at least educate yourself.  When you do an up close comparison AND compare performance, the differences in the "C" vs the other SLDR's are quite obvious indeed, and as for the color, the new gloss black color looks GREAT on this new SLDR head, (contrary to what you said above).  

 

BTW, although I don't play it, the TM "57" stock shaft is the same co-engineered stock shaft used in the original SLDR, just slightly different TM SLDR graphics with the Fujikura name removed.  TM moved away from the using the "made for" shaft graphics in 2015 and no longer pays royalties to Fujikura in exchange for using their name on TM shafts.  (You may have noted that the stock shafts for TM's  M-Family use the shaft manufacturer's graphics, so TM's "made for" graphics on driver shafts appear to be history now).  The SLDR-C's stock 57 shaft probably fits a fairly wide array of players as TM says, but it's not for me.  I prefer the premium Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s.  (I used the upgraded "TP" Tourspec 7.3 shaft in the original SLDR 430/460 Drivers so upgraded shafts are the norm for me).

 

Hopefully this clears up the clueless and false assumptions made by "Undershooter30" about the 2015 SLDR-C Driver.  

I think we need to keep in mind that golf is a very personalized sport. You're more than welcome to play the driver that you do bobcat, and someone commenting on that doesn't make you like/enjoy/fit the driver any less.

 

To each their own man.

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BTW, although I don't play it, the TM "57" stock shaft is the same co-engineered stock shaft used in the original SLDR, just slightly different TM SLDR graphics with the Fujikura name removed.  TM moved away from the using the "made for" shaft graphics in 2015 and no longer pays royalties to Fujikura in exchange for using their name on TM shafts.  (You may have noted that the stock shafts for TM's  M-Family use the shaft manufacturer's graphics, so TM's "made for" graphics on driver shafts appear to be history now). 

 

Does this mean that the "made for" versions no longer exist and TM uses real aftermarket versions or are they still using "made for" variants without the customized logo?


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I think we need to keep in mind that golf is a very personalized sport. You're more than welcome to play the driver that you do bobcat, and someone commenting on that doesn't make you like/enjoy/fit the driver any less.

 

To each their own man.

Comments are one thing, but outright lies and distortions about equipment are something else entirely and should not be tolerated by anyone.  To state that the SLDR-C and the SLDR-S are the same head is a huge distortion of the truth and people deserve the truth when they visit this site.  Completely different clubheads! 


What's in Bobcat's Bag?  (Showing more than 14 clubs due to options)

 

Driver: :taylormade-small: 9.5* SLDR-C - 45.5" Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s, (1/2" tip)

Fairway: :taylormade-small: Tour issue 15* V-Steel 3W - Fujikura 757 Speeder Stiff

Fairway/Hybrid: :taylormade-small: 15* Rescue Fairway "3-Strong" - VP-90 Stiff 

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: #3 (19*) & #4 (22*) Rescue-Mid TP's - Vista Pro 90 Stiff 

Driving Irons: :taylormade-small: UDI #1 (16*) & #3 (20*) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Iron Set: :taylormade-small: SLDR Irons (5-8i only) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff

Hybrid Wedges: :cleveland-small: 2011 Niblicks 42*PW, 49*DW, 56*SW - Stock

SW/LW: :cleveland-small: CG-16 Black Pearl 58* Low Bounce 8* - Stock Steel Shaft

Putter: :bettinardi-small: BBX-81 Blade - Stock Bettinardi Steel Shaft 

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You are obviously quite clueless about the SLDR-C Driver.  Fact is, it is a totally different clubhead than the Silver "S" or the original Charcoal Gray SLDR 460cc Driver.  The SLDR-C is a completely different clubhead shape. If you had actually compared the heads up close you would know this, so you are clearly just spouting B.S. here.

 

Before criticizing my driver choice you should at least educate yourself.  When you do an up close comparison AND compare performance, the differences in the "C" vs the other SLDR's are quite obvious indeed, and as for the color, the new gloss black color looks GREAT on this new SLDR head, (contrary to what you said above).  

 

BTW, although I don't play it, the TM "57" stock shaft is the same co-engineered stock shaft used in the original SLDR, just slightly different TM SLDR graphics with the Fujikura name removed.  TM moved away from the using the "made for" shaft graphics in 2015 and no longer pays royalties to Fujikura in exchange for using their name on TM shafts.  (You may have noted that the stock shafts for TM's  M-Family use the shaft manufacturer's graphics, so TM's "made for" graphics on driver shafts appear to be history now).  The SLDR-C's stock 57 shaft probably fits a fairly wide array of players as TM says, but it's not for me.  I prefer the premium Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s.  (I used the upgraded "TP" Tourspec 7.3 shaft in the original SLDR 430/460 Drivers so upgraded shafts are the norm for me).

 

Hopefully this clears up the clueless and false assumptions made by "Undershooter30" about the 2015 SLDR-C Driver.  

 

I wasn't going to jump in on this, but in the interest of actual education, let me clear up any misconceptions or other cluelessness about what the SLDR-C is or is not.

 

It is not a repainted SLDR-S, but it is based on a pre-existing shape...likely an older shape...think Burner, JetSpeed...something from a non-SLDR line. What it is is a big box exclusive that comes at a discount price with plenty of cost-cutting built into the head.

 

What I mean by that is multi-fold:

 

1) There's no fresh/unique/dedicated R&D - everything built into the head is pre-existing technology. Nobody engineers specifically for big box.

2) Tolerances are not nearly as tight as they are with a main line product. You get what you pay for.

 

How that generally manifests itself is thicker crowns, degraded face technology (inverted cone ain't what it is in the main line), sloppier welds (less internal polishing), and a stock shaft that's more questionable than a standard sub-$400 stock offering. Basically, there's a whole lot less attention to detail, because details cost money.

 

It is intended for the bargain shopper, and is designed (or more accurately not designed) with that audience in mind.

 

Now this is not to say it won't perform well for some people. There's going to be more variance between good copies and bad, but at the end of the day, the loft, CG, etc. properties will work for some golfers (even with a garbage shaft).

 

That said...knowing what it is - it's not something I would recommend anyone actively seek out.

 

This is how TaylorMade does big box exclusives (although some Japanese SLDR 430s made their way to Dick's). This isn't true for every company. Cobra has done exclusives for both Dick's and Golf Galaxy. In those cases the only differences between the main line and the exclusive product was the paint...the design, and manufacturing tolerances were the same.

 

Callaway also has some big box exclusives...same rules apply. Bargain products for bargain shoppers. To reach the lower price point, there are tradeoffs.

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