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I currently play Pure Pro mid-size in all my clubs and my usual shot is a push, which to me, shows that I'm not getting my arms rotated enough through the swing.

 

I keep reading that smaller diameter grips "make/help" the arms rotate more, thus the result, for me at least, would be either a straight shot or a draw.

 

What are your thoughts on grip size and is the thinking anecdotal or hard fact? 

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From what I understand, the larger grip slows your hands, or keeps them quieter through the swing. I had always used standard grips and hit a lot of bad hooks, someone recommended for me to play midsize and it has toned down the bad hooks, I still hook, but it's much less, so in that regard I would say yes it could hope with the push to go to a smaller grip, you can also look at the lie angle as well, that can also cause a potential left or right shot, too flat is fade , too upright is draw. I know there are some guys that will leave clubs flat or upright to counteract their tendencies and straighten the ball out.

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Just saw this on the Golf Channel, saying that if yourarrow-10x10.png grips are larger, you can't get your hands around in time.  So if you want to hit a draw, play smaller grips.

 

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Placebo effect IMO

 

I know it's your opinion, but why do you think that is?

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I wish I could slap some Super Stroke Fatso putter grips onto my driver and woods and never hit another hook. Just don't see that working though.

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I currently play Pure Pro mid-size in all my clubs and my usual shot is a push, which to me, shows that I'm not getting my arms rotated enough through the swing.

 

I keep reading that smaller diameter grips "make/help" the arms rotate more, thus the result, for me at least, would be either a straight shot or a draw.

 

What are your thoughts on grip size and is the thinking anecdotal or hard fact?

 

I use midsize grips as well because with standard grips my finger tips dig into the palm of my hand. Everything I hit has a touch of fade, always has probably always will. In February I played a round of golf using a friends set with standard grips, hit the same little fade. I suppose a smaller grip would make it easier to draw the ball, but I think smaller or larger grips would depend more on your hand size. If I was to switch to jumbos I would proably hit a bigger cut. Some day when I'm bored I'll have try it.

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I have the GP CP2-wrap on all my clubs. These grips have a slightly reduced taper in the lower hand - meaning they are slightly thicker. It's noticeable when you hold a club without this feature. The grips also have a 2.5" Control Core Stabilizer insert incorporated into the butt end of the grip. GP says it reduces torque by 41%. I suppose. Personally I don't think I can tell. I like the grips a lot and would re-grip with them next time.

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The size of the grip should fit your hand.  It's one of the variables of the fitting process.  Grips that are too small result in gripping too hard because poor contact with the club.  Grips that are too big result in reduced hand action and a slower swing speed, but the club is easier to control.

 

This is my own personal experience.  It may be different for others.  That said, I use Pure Grips DTX on my irons and DTX midsize on my woods/hybrids.  I have 4 wraps under my lower hand and one under my upper hand.  I tend to make a slightly easier swing with my irons so I don't feel like I have to have a death grip on the club.  The regular grips allow more wrist cock (not that I have much anyway), and I get a higher launch, which I need.  For the long clubs I probably swing a little more out of control, and the midsize grips allow me to have lighter grip pressure, which leads to better distance than I would get from the slightly more wrist cock with standard grips.  

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I tell folks that grip size is a catalyst to the push or hook concepts not a cause.

Grips should be fit to the proper size of both hands. However, physical and mental comfort override proper fit.

Meaning if I say I think midsize grips are the best fit for you and while going through the mid grips for selection the golfers final thought is,,,,,

yea but I am comfortable with standard and like that feel instead, then the decision has already been made.

The change of grip size will be in that golfers mind the ENTIRE time instead of concentrating on the swing.

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I found this article enlightening regarding finding the correct grip size.  http://www.golf.com/instruction/youre-playing-wrong-size-grips

 

A few years ago I attended a three day golf school and the pro mentioned that I could use bigger grips.  This was based on my hands--I'm 6'2" tall with big hands and long fingers,  "pianists" hands.  With a regular grip, my fingers dug into the palm and I griped much too hard.  

 

I started experimenting with different size grips.  I did the different fitting tests and read all the articles I could find.  What I found is that grip size mostly influences pressure.  The whole "big grips cause a fade, small grips cause a draw" thing is a myth.  Big grips may keep me from manipulating the club in the fingers, but this is a good thing.  The small manipulations lead to inconsistency.    

 

I started out trying midsize gips and then jumbo.  My methodology was to buy three grips of each size and put them on a wedge, mid iron and driver.  I would then hit each set of clubs for a few weeks on the range.  If I didn't like one set of grips, I would replace it, but I always had two sets of grips to compare.  I compared results on the range (not feel) and I spent enough time with each grip to get used to the different grip size.  After all, the size of grip you are used to will initially feel more comfortable.    

 

I even tried the Jumbomax grips.  Even with their large grip, I didn't suddenly start hitting massive fades.  But, my hands felt great after a range session.  

 

I finally settled on a jumbo grip by Golf Pride..

 

 

As a side note, I gave some of the Jumbomax grips that I didn't use to a friend and he ended up replacing all his grips with Jumbomax.  The big grips relived some mild arthritis pains in his hands and made golf much less taxing for him.  

 

After my experiments, I found the only way to truly find the right grip size is to hit different grips for a period of time and go with the ones that give the best results (again, not initial feel).  I have played with the jumbo grips for a year now and even though they felt strange when I first put them on the clubs, I now couldn't imagine going back to a standard grip.   

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I have found that I like midsize grips, but I have found hat in my wedges a standard grip with 3 wraps under works well, that makes them just short of the midsize grip.

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I agree that grip size is part of your fitting; not a way to shape your shots.

 

Many years of playing tennis, I experimented with various size grips.  Easy to change, mid-game, with some wraps of gauze tape.  I tried very small, and very large grips.  The small grips did help turn the racket over for a topspin forehand, like a draw in golf.  The jumbo helped produce a flat drive with little wrist action, like a push fade in golf.  But the key item I learned was that you must have the proper fitting grip to produce both shots at will.  Grip too small, your grip pressure is too tight.  Too large, you can't control the club.

 

Bottom line: Play grips that fit your hand size.

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Grip size cana ctually make a big difference. Fo rme I fit into a midsize grip. When I went to a midsize grip I found it wasnt as comfortable and I could ge tit to roll over as well. Since then I have moved to a grip that has an extra 2 wraps under the grip. Slightly larger than standard but not quite midsize

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..you can also look at the lie angle as well, that can also cause a potential left or right shot, too flat is fade , too upright is draw. I know there are some guys that will leave clubs flat or upright to counteract their tendencies and straighten the ball out.

Yes!! Lie angle and shaft length (and type) have much greater effects on ball flight - suggest getting fitted, or if you already have, maybe re-fitted (and maybe somewhere else?).

 

Grip size does have an effect, but less compared to other factors ... almost more about comfort / what feels best in your hands.

 

*As others mentioned: which allows you to grip and swing with the proper grip pressure?

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Agree with most others here - grip is a static measurement and if it doesn't fit, like anything else with your equipment, it can lead to problems.

Whether or not the size of a grip is directly related to one shot shape to another is an absolute myth. People who tend to hook will hook and vice versa for slicers etc.

What is factual is three key elements are required to ensure the correct swing - grip, stance, alignment.

If any one or more of these are wrong, or you have a habit of making them variable at address in relation to the club, then there is a strong possibility that the outcome of the shot is predetermined by an incorrect set up. The incorrect grip can exacerbate this - and it follows that the incorrect grip size will ultimately compound the error even more.

So get fitted for a grip size that fits your hand comfortably and which allows the best possible set up position and takeaway. But if you're thinking that a certain size can fix swing faults though, or influence ball flight for a neutral swing, then you're mistaken.

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I don't remember where and when I red that, but when I decided to get back in the game, I re-griped all my clubs with smaller grip.  I went to 2-3 extra tape to none.  I don't believe it help one bit.  I actually realized that a fair number of my bad shots were due to griping the club too hard...

 

I'm in the process of being professionally fitted for the first time and one of the first thing the club fitter said when he saw my slim grip was:"show me your hand"... and then "this is wrong, you definitely need bigger grips..."

 

In short, based on my experience: anecdotal.  Glad I experimented though, now I'm leaving it in the hands of a pro.

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When I was fit he told me that the bigger grips are too hard to turn thru the ball if you have smaller hands. Opposite of it's too small. Then your grip is going to be way too tight. I'm a mid size plus two wraps.

 

 

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I ordered mid-size grips for the Mizuno JPX EZ Forged irons, I did not put this in the Stage 2 review because that was about the irons not the grips, but I went from a slide draw on all iron shots to a slight fade and had to adjust my set up for that.

 

I mention it in my Stage 1 portion but since I spent time on the range then, I worked it out, but it does make a difference.

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