mjkladis Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I was gaming the Cobra Bio Cell, which is 2 yrs old. I also have: Powerbilt DFX(2 yrs); Cobra Fly Z+(last year); Cobra King LTD(NEW) What do you think about the King LTD? -Your Average Golfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Basically the MOI etc in accordance with the rules has been maxed out for some time. Mostly what any of the companies are doing now is messing around with weight placement with regards to loft and face angle. Really they are not doing anything new that us old timers have not been doing with lead tape and or hot melt for years. Look at Callaway's Gravity Chamber there is nothing new and revolutinally there. Toney Penna did it over 40 years ago with the persimmon drivers. IMHO the best improvements are in shaft technology and the technology in tuning them. To add to Rev's suggestion I would like to take some of the older heads and put universal quick fit adaptors on the shafts and test them with newer more modern shafts compaired to the newer stuff. Also keep a roll of lead tape handy to make weight corrections. The only reason I am hitting a newer Titleist driver now is because I made a smoking hot trade on it and a Nike Vapor Pro and like the shafts in both. If I had not done that trade I would be hitting my older custom Hathaway or my older Hogan CS-5 Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatginger96 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I played a Titleist 909 D2 for awhile, but it wasn't low spinning enough for me so I made a switch to the SLDR 430 and saw a big improvement in distance. I've flirted with the Callaway BB Alpha 815 for more forgiveness, but I keep going back to my SLDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I bought the 2014 Big Bertha from Callaway back in 2013, so the old girl's not exactly new - although newer than most of the others on this particular forum. However, this is a club that can, and will, go quite long when the need or opportunity arises. There's at least 2 or 3 times per round where I hit 300yd+ drives, and I know that she can keep up with, and beat, the current crop of drivers. The current Callaway GBB, TM M2, King Cobra and XR16 aren't as long or as low spinning as my driver. The only thing that might tempt me into buying new is the M1 with the right shaft in it, but the price would have to be right, probably around AUD$400 (roughly US$300). I got the BB 2014 recently to try to dethrone my gamer. Took it out to the range last weekend, but unfortunately I hadn't brought any tees with me (cause I switched to a practice bag without tees), so had to use the rubber ones from mats. They were either too high or too low for my set-up. Just a little background info: lately I've been slicing the ball like crazy off the tee (cost me about 10 strokes last tourney). But, interestingly enough, I couldn't slice the BB 2014 *knocks on wood* I have the weights set at full draw, standard 9* loft and neutral Can't wait to get back on the range and try it with a proper tee height! SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdumble21 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I got the BB 2014 recently to try to dethrone my gamer. Took it out to the range last weekend, but unfortunately I hadn't brought any tees with me (cause I switched to a practice bag without tees), so had to use the rubber ones from mats. They were either too high or too low for my set-up. Just a little background info: lately I've been slicing the ball like crazy off the tee (cost me about 10 strokes last tourney). But, interestingly enough, I couldn't slice the BB 2014 *knocks on wood* I have the weights set at full draw, standard 9* loft and neutral Can't wait to get back on the range and try it with a proper tee height! A constant slice was the reason why I went to my Bertha in the first place. The problem is that now I tend to hit a baby draw to hook with the driver. I've been to a club fitter, who's suggested an Adilla Rogue stiff shaft that's heavier and less torquey than my Fubuki shaft. The weights in my driver are in full Fade position. Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft Hybrid (not in play): Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft Driving Iron: Wilson Staff Utility Iron 18 degree with KBS Hybrid Stiff shaft Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 - 50; Callaway MD4 - 56; Vokey SM9 - 60 Putter: Taylormade Rossa CGB Golf Ball: Srixon Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 A constant slice was the reason why I went to my Bertha in the first place. The problem is that now I tend to hit a baby draw to hook with the driver. I've been to a club fitter, who's suggested an Adilla Rogue stiff shaft that's heavier and less torquey than my Fubuki shaft. The weights in my driver are in full Fade position. My current Adams has the Fubuki alpha which is a great fit for me. For the BB I got it with the Fubuki ZT. It feels a lot softer than the alpha, though. I hooked a couple of them, but I have the driver set at full draw. Should that become a problem, I'll set it neutral and see what happens. I tried the Rogue on my pro's 915D and it definitely felt boardier. But the BB is really a great option for less than $100 right now. SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 What do you think about the King LTD? -Your Average Golfer I am enamored with it, but still seem to get more consistency from the Bio Cell....this will prob be a summer long trial. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkladis Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I am enamored with it, but still seem to get more consistency from the Bio Cell....this will prob be a summer long trial. I actually demoed it today at the local golf shop in town. That thing is a bomber! I still love my Vapor Fly though. -Your Average Golfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrodeur86 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I am enamored with it, but still seem to get more consistency from the Bio Cell....this will prob be a summer long trial.I tried it at a demo day last month and loved it. It was a toss up between that and the bb alpha 816 dbd. They both had the same trajectory and distance wise about the same. I usually carry 250-260 with my xcg7 beta and both seemed much longer. I actually just bought the bb alpha 815 dbd with the hope that it is close enough to the 816. Sent from my XT1563 using MyGolfSpy mobile app DRIVER: Stealth 2, 9*, Mitsubishi Kai' Li red, 60g Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize Woods: Sim Max 3 Wood, 15*, Fujikura Ventus 6 Blue 65g, Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize HYBRIDS: JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize IRONS: MP-20 HMB 4 iron, Project X LZ 6.5 shaft, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grip JPX 919 Tour 5i-pw, Project X LZ 6.5 shafts, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grips WEDGES: New Level Golf 50*, 55*, 60* M-Type Wedges with True Temper Elevate Tour X-Stiff flex, New Level Midsize grips PUTTER: Heppler Ketsch 35", Ping PP62 Pistol Grip BALL: Pro Pro V1 (2021 + 2023 Versions) BAG: TM19 Select Plus Cart Bag Shoes: Under Armour HOVR Fade 2 SL Spikeless Shoes Tech: NX7 Pro Slope golf laser Rangefinder Frogger Golf Towels, 4 more Yard blue/ yellow golf tees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3puttpaul Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 That's true. I swear I never hit any driver better than my original Bertha.... I feel the same about my 14 year old Hogan Irons. Only give those up for another set of Hogans Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3puttpaul Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I now have the 2014 Bertha. If you catch it right it goes a long way. A lot of forgiveness as well Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasper Parsnip Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I am gaming a Taylormade R7 Quad and for me I would say its as good as anything on the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdumble21 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I now have the 2014 Bertha. If you catch it right it goes a long way. A lot of forgiveness as well Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app I second that emotion, although an R15 430 with a TP shaft might sway me. Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft Hybrid (not in play): Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft Driving Iron: Wilson Staff Utility Iron 18 degree with KBS Hybrid Stiff shaft Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 - 50; Callaway MD4 - 56; Vokey SM9 - 60 Putter: Taylormade Rossa CGB Golf Ball: Srixon Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randysauce84 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I still game my R510 TP every now and again. My last trackman day, it out performed every other driver I own (M1 included). If it works, it works Driver - TM R11 8* Fujikara Motore F3 TP 80 Irons - TM TP forged (2005) 2-PW DG X100 Wedges - Scratch 1018 54 + 61 DG X 100 Putter - Ping Redwood Blade Ball - Nike RZN Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 What do you think about the King LTD? -Your Average Golfer I really like it, especially since I put the Paderson Kinetix IMRT shaft in it....That makes it 1" shorter than the stock shaft....So, at 44.5" I really like the feel of it. The flight is considerably lower than normal but I can make it fly when needed. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dang3rtown Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I just got back into golf after a decade long hiatus. As such, I have been gradually replacing clubs with new stuff. My last upgrade was at driver. I had been gaming a 2007 TM Burner. It was a perfectly serviceable driver, easy hit and decent distance. After a fitting, I just picked up a Callaway BB 816 DBD. I can say it is absolutely a better club. Easier to hit and I'm consistently getting 10 more yards and hitting more fairways. The burner was fine but I would be shocked if the new club didn't save me at least 1 stroke per 18. Driver: G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft Fairway Woods: Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16* Irons: Split Set- i200 3i - 7i , Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) Wedges: TK, 52* & 56* Putter: Sigma G Kushin Bag: Hoofer 5way Balls: TP5/X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridgewalker Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I was a holdout until the start of last year when I half-upgraded. I had been using a Tour Edge Bazooka 8.5° which I aboslutely loved. But I picked up a used TaylorMade SLDR for $110 and I can say that I did begin immediately begin hitting the ball further on average, although I do find it a little harder to keep in play (the shaft is longer in the SLDR). Partially off-topic but last year I was looking at upgrading my irons and wanted to try a forged set before I bought anything used. So I pulled out my Grandfather's Wilson X-31s from 1967 or so and loved them. Didn't lose any distance or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred480 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Nike Vapor Flex from 2015 is a great driver if you can still find one. Gets your ball speed up and lower spin numbers. Fully adjustable for high or low flights, various lofts as well. I went from a FLY-Z+ carrying the ball about 230-235 to now Carrying about 260-270yards I suspect the shaft that came with the flex played a big role too as it was a much nicer shaft too that suited my way of loading the club. But the Nike Flex I believe is a smaller head too so your striking ability has to be relatively good to get the distance out of it. Hope this helps a bit. Alfred WITB: Driver: Nike Vapor Flex, 9.5 Degrees FW: Cobra F7, 14.5 Degrees Hybrid: Callaway X2Hot 19 Degrees UT Iron: Callaway Apex UT 18 Degrees Irons: 4-6i King Cobra LTD Pro CB Irons: 7-PW King Cobra LTD Pro MB Wedges: Cleveland RTX 3 50 MG, 58 FG Putter: Nike Method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooremikea Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 About every 2 years I "upgrade" to the best 2 year old driver. Depending on the brand you can get some killer deals on eBay. This year I went from an X2 Hot to a Cobra Fly-Z+. Found the Cobra on eBay for about $70 shipped and it was in excellent condition. Look at the two year old MGS most wanted driver list and look for the best bargains. You can get a lot of technology for not that much money. Driver - Ping G410 Plus 10.5 - Ping Tour 65 Stiff 4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0 Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 - 3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff Irons - Callaway Apex CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS Putter - Edel e1 Torque balanced Indianapolis 5.5 Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 R1, so what 2013? Looking to upgrade or sidegrade maybe. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenteriaAJ Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I play a Taylormade R1(6-7years old)? Was in Myrtle beach PGA superstore decided to hit the M1. Destroyed it. Swing speed avg. 118, launch 12.2, 2,200 rotation ( guy was talking gibberish to me. Had a buddy that new what he was talking about) was hitting right at 300 couple under couple over. Fitter guy said what's wrong with that while he hands me the exact club I was hitting new to buy. Said I hit my R1 the same way. Said no way , went to my car got my R1 out and spot on exact. I would love to pick up 5-10 more yards but I don't think that comes from a new club. My 2 cents Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Ok, I am still playing with the TaylorMade R9 SuperDeep TP that I got on June 1st, 2010. I know that there had been testing done that shows that the ball speeds on drivers of this era are comparable to the hot new stuff of today. That is regulated by USGA and R&A rules. The improvements in the past 7 years have to do with spin and launch conditions. If your 2010 era driver is a perfect fit for launch... High LA, and low Spin, there is Very little improvement to be had by purchasing a new club..... If you hit the center of the club.. When I am swinging well, there is no discernible gain to be had by switching to something new. Believe me. I try EVERYTHING. EVERY YEAR. Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 One of my friends who will turn 70 this year has tried many of the newer offerings. NOTHING touches his Cleveland Launcher... NOTHING! He still pounds the Launcher like a skilled carpenter on a virgin nail . Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I snapped the head clean off a bore through Cally Big Bertha. Smashed a 300 yard drive and the head went 50 of that. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I picked up a used TaylorMade SLDR for $110 and I can say that I did begin immediately begin hitting the ball further on average, although I do find it a little harder to keep in play (the shaft is longer in the SLDR). . I also picked one up. Do you notice it has a higher ping/click sound.. Maybe its me playing a M1 & ZL Encore that are different material & have a more muted sound Sent from my SM-N910V using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou mcconaughey Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 When I get in a funk out comes my old taylormade 510 tp. I love the sound Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 New Tech has been shown on MGS and other places to outperform old tech (think 5 or more years old). That being said, play what you are comfortable with and helps you enjoy the game the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Going to that demo day on Tuesday. Looking to test the F7+ vs Ping G LSTEC vs 917 D3 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 ... If you are fit with the right shaft and head, maximizing spin and carry, I think it is extremely difficult to find more yards in a new driver. That said, it is still possible. After years of little to no gain in distance I gained 10-15 yards with the SLDR. First low spin head that launched high enough for me to gain the benefits of that technology. A few years later I added the Fly Z that had a hair more spin but was much more accurate and produced a little more carry. I imagine my best drives with both drivers would be the same, but I consistently hit the Z longer than the SLDR. And consistent distance is better than longest drive every time. ... I never know when the next technical break thru will happen for my swing, but I have no doubt it will happen. So I hit everything every year and my 2 yr old Fly Z is still safe. For now. Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Ball Markers Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Going to that demo day on Tuesday. Looking to test the F7+ vs Ping G LSTEC vs 917 D3 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Cobra F6 here, and I love it - not sure if the F7 would be worth the $$$ for me to upgrade. http://www.instagram.com/libertyballmarkers http://www.ebay.com/usr/libertyballmarkers http://www.instagram.com/libertyballmarkers/ http://www.birdie-bomb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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