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So, I have been working towards getting back into a bit more strict S&T swing. I'd had some previous success with this swing(best center contact and repeatable ballflight), but also got a game ruining case of repeatable shanks while trying it(3-4 years ago).

 

The two most difficult changes trying to go back have been the flat left wrist at impact, instead of my patented delayed flip maneuver. Then getting rid of my horrible over the top move at the top of my backswing.

 

Here are a couple swing videos I took:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVM-TdnS34

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g6mYBZvzPc

 

 

The things I have noticed while working on a flatter left wrist impact are a more consistent feeling throughout the bag. I don't have to make as many alterations for hitting the longer clubs. I might finally be getting some speed back in my driver(hopefully).

 

I took it out to the course with the latest piece(flat left wrist) for the first time on Monday and played ok. Shot an 88 and made two errant lost ball swings. I did hit 8 or 9 GIR overall, and made 3 birdies on the front 9, which is a new high for me.

 

What about you guys? Anyone else using or tried S&T?

 

 

 

Driver - XR16 Pro 10.5 Kuro Kage Black 60-S
Fairway wood - Taylormade Aeroburner mini (16*)

Tour Edge XCG7 7-wood 21*/XR16 7 wood
Hybrid - Adams Pro Mini 23*
Irons - Mizuno EZ forged 5-GW
Wedges - Mizuno JPX 54*
Bridgestone 60*

Putter - Wilson Staff Infinite South SIde

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I think that I would not mess with something like this unless I had a teacher teaching it to me.  I think that most modern teacher have an element of stack and tilt in their instruction but do yourself a favor and get a trained eye on what you're trying to do.

 

Good luck!

Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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Nice Wilson golf glove in the video! I'd honestly go see Bryan Skavnak out of Parkers Lake. He works miracles. Not that expensive either!

 

 

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What stood out for me was your divot pattern, you gotta make lines, not a huge hole!

 

 

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Driver: :callaway-logo-1: Epic SZ w/ VA Composites Raijin 65 04

3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :ping-small: 5i-UW G700 w/ X100 soft stepped once

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 54 & 58 CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Putter: :odyssey-small: Red 7s

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What stood out for me was your divot pattern, you gotta make lines, not a huge hole!

 

 

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Haha, I knew someone would comment on that. I my defense, I had just started hitting there(that crater existed before me)

 

I think that I would not mess with something like this unless I had a teacher teaching it to me.  I think that most modern teacher have an element of stack and tilt in their instruction but do yourself a favor and get a trained eye on what you're trying to do.

 

Good luck!

Yeah, I have taken some lessons from a Stack and Tilt guy over the winter. It has just been a longer more difficult road back than I imagined.

 

Nice Wilson golf glove in the video! I'd honestly go see Bryan Skavnak out of Parkers Lake. He works miracles. Not that expensive either!

 

 

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Thanks, I think I might(when my current lesson plan runs out).

Driver - XR16 Pro 10.5 Kuro Kage Black 60-S
Fairway wood - Taylormade Aeroburner mini (16*)

Tour Edge XCG7 7-wood 21*/XR16 7 wood
Hybrid - Adams Pro Mini 23*
Irons - Mizuno EZ forged 5-GW
Wedges - Mizuno JPX 54*
Bridgestone 60*

Putter - Wilson Staff Infinite South SIde

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A bit better 2nd outing. Got out last night for 18 and shot an 83 at a decent course(2nd best round so far this year). I hit 9 GIR, but didn't drive the ball particularly well.

Driver - XR16 Pro 10.5 Kuro Kage Black 60-S
Fairway wood - Taylormade Aeroburner mini (16*)

Tour Edge XCG7 7-wood 21*/XR16 7 wood
Hybrid - Adams Pro Mini 23*
Irons - Mizuno EZ forged 5-GW
Wedges - Mizuno JPX 54*
Bridgestone 60*

Putter - Wilson Staff Infinite South SIde

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A bit better 2nd outing. Got out last night for 18 and shot an 83 at a decent course(2nd best round so far this year). I hit 9 GIR, but didn't drive the ball particularly well.

What's your handicap? 9 GIRs would indicate a lower single digit handicap and also fewer driving problems than may my think unless the other 9 holes include penalties or drives that are well out of position.

 

I'm at a 4.9 right now and I'm averaging between 8-9 GIRs. That's right on normal for my handicap.

Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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What's your handicap? 9 GIRs would indicate a lower single digit handicap and also fewer driving problems than may my think unless the other 9 holes include penalties or drives that are well out of position.

 

I'm at a 4.9 right now and I'm averaging between 8-9 GIRs. That's right on normal for my handicap.

 

Last year my handicap finished the year at 12, but I haven't been posting any of my rounds this year. I do tend to have 1 wild drive per round which ends up getting lost. I was looking at the average stats for GIR per handicap and it seems like I somehow never manage to capitalize on it since I haven't ever shot a round in the 70s. I certainly wasn't hitting this many GIR last year, so I bring it up as a one area which seems to be improving since switching back to S&T.

 

I somehow still manage to put 1 or 2 triple bogeys per round out there which hurts(not in the last round thankfully).

Driver - XR16 Pro 10.5 Kuro Kage Black 60-S
Fairway wood - Taylormade Aeroburner mini (16*)

Tour Edge XCG7 7-wood 21*/XR16 7 wood
Hybrid - Adams Pro Mini 23*
Irons - Mizuno EZ forged 5-GW
Wedges - Mizuno JPX 54*
Bridgestone 60*

Putter - Wilson Staff Infinite South SIde

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What's your handicap? 9 GIRs would indicate a lower single digit handicap and also fewer driving problems than may my think unless the other 9 holes include penalties or drives that are well out of position.

 

I'm at a 4.9 right now and I'm averaging between 8-9 GIRs. That's right on normal for my handicap.

Rev--never underestimate the ability of a mid handicapper to screw up his score.  Yesterday, 6/9 GIRS in regulation (including the par 5 I was on in two) on the front nine and still shot 45.  

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Ping G400 10.5 Deg Driver, stock Stiff shaft
TM Rocketballz 19 Deg 5 Wood, stock Matrix Osik Stiff shaft
TM Rocketballz Stage 2 21 Deg Tour 4 Hybrid, Rocketfuel 80h Stiff shaft 

Callaway Apex CF 16 Irons, 4-P, Stiff Shafts
 
Scor 48 and 55 degree wedges.  
Renegar 60 Deg Steel Shaft Lob Wedge

TM Ghost Spider Si 38" Counterbalanced Putter

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Glad you brought this topic up! Been having my hips sway and remembered one of the benefits of this swing theory, for lack of a better word. Doing much better now.

Did you decide if you would go to an instructor who might get you squared up?

 

 

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My Mixed-Bag:

 

Driver:      :callaway-small: Rogue 9*, UST chrome 7F5T 

Fairway:     :taylormade-small: M5 3 wood, UST chrome 7F5T

Irons:        :titelist-small: TMB 3i &  :mizuno-small:MP-18 MB 4-PW

Wedges:     :titelist-small: Voke SM7 LTD Jet Black 

Putter:       :bettinardi-small: Queen Bee #9

Ball:        :srixon-small: Z star XV

 

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Glad you brought this topic up! Been having my hips sway and remembered one of the benefits of this swing theory, for lack of a better word. Doing much better now.

Did you decide if you would go to an instructor who might get you squared up?

 

 

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Yeah, I've noticed that using a swing style which doesn't move off the ball(right for a righty) on the backswing, definitely improves my contact. Certainly there are some difficulties with the swing as well, I've struggled sliding my hips far enough left on the downswing. but overall it feels like an improvement so far.

 

I've been working with a Stack and Tilt instructor in my area, which has be quite helpful(even if I get stubborn sometimes) 

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Driver - XR16 Pro 10.5 Kuro Kage Black 60-S
Fairway wood - Taylormade Aeroburner mini (16*)

Tour Edge XCG7 7-wood 21*/XR16 7 wood
Hybrid - Adams Pro Mini 23*
Irons - Mizuno EZ forged 5-GW
Wedges - Mizuno JPX 54*
Bridgestone 60*

Putter - Wilson Staff Infinite South SIde

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Yeah, I've noticed that using a swing style which doesn't move off the ball(right for a righty) on the backswing, definitely improves my contact. Certainly there are some difficulties with the swing as well, I've struggled sliding my hips far enough left on the downswing. but overall it feels like an improvement so far.

 

I've been working with a Stack and Tilt instructor in my area, which has be quite helpful(even if I get stubborn sometimes)

Yeah I can see getting left being a struggle. Hit a couple of fat shots today because of this. Overall pretty happy with the results. Just saw my hcp creep below 10 again!

 

 

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My Mixed-Bag:

 

Driver:      :callaway-small: Rogue 9*, UST chrome 7F5T 

Fairway:     :taylormade-small: M5 3 wood, UST chrome 7F5T

Irons:        :titelist-small: TMB 3i &  :mizuno-small:MP-18 MB 4-PW

Wedges:     :titelist-small: Voke SM7 LTD Jet Black 

Putter:       :bettinardi-small: Queen Bee #9

Ball:        :srixon-small: Z star XV

 

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Yeah I can see getting left being a struggle. Hit a couple of fat shots today because of this. Overall pretty happy with the results. Just saw my hcp creep below 10 again!

 

 

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Congrats,that is awesome. How long have you been doing S&T?

Driver - XR16 Pro 10.5 Kuro Kage Black 60-S
Fairway wood - Taylormade Aeroburner mini (16*)

Tour Edge XCG7 7-wood 21*/XR16 7 wood
Hybrid - Adams Pro Mini 23*
Irons - Mizuno EZ forged 5-GW
Wedges - Mizuno JPX 54*
Bridgestone 60*

Putter - Wilson Staff Infinite South SIde

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Congrats,that is awesome. How long have you been doing S&T?

 

Well the pro I started working with at the beginning of the month incorportates some of the principles. I briefly worked with him last season and got as low as a 6.7- and I'm trying to get back there again, but the holidays and work increase kept me away. I do like that it has given me more of a routine before shots and some good checkpoints before swings.

My Mixed-Bag:

 

Driver:      :callaway-small: Rogue 9*, UST chrome 7F5T 

Fairway:     :taylormade-small: M5 3 wood, UST chrome 7F5T

Irons:        :titelist-small: TMB 3i &  :mizuno-small:MP-18 MB 4-PW

Wedges:     :titelist-small: Voke SM7 LTD Jet Black 

Putter:       :bettinardi-small: Queen Bee #9

Ball:        :srixon-small: Z star XV

 

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