Your swing type: one plane, two plane or stack and tilt?

[Moecat]

I think my swing is probably a hybrid of one and two planes. However, my instructor just keeps it simple and does what he can with my limited skills to keep my swing on plane!

 

What about the rest of you? What type of swing fits you?

[JLasvegas]

Im currently working with Paul Wilson, we just brought him on at our club and he bases his teaching off of the iron byron. I fell into a rut when trying the 1plane swing and its been alot of work to get that out of my swing.

[jamo]

I believe S&T advocates a 1 plane swing. Either way, mine is slightly 2 plane, but I'm working towards 1 plane.

[Dennis]

I don't really think in a particular way, i just swing. But on video, it's one plane and not S&T.

[Viper12]

I'm not really a believer in the one plane vs. two plane swing theories. I think it will vary with a persons body type, athleticism and flexibility and getting hung up on one or two just messes people up. What's important is what a person does thru impact, as long as they get into a consistent good impact position it doesn't really matter what plane it's on.

[jamo]

I'm not really a believer in the one plane vs. two plane swing theories. I think it will vary with a persons body type, athleticism and flexibility and getting hung up on one or two just messes people up. What's important is what a person does thru impact, as long as they get into a consistent good impact position it doesn't really matter what plane it's on.

 

One plane v Two plane is just whether or not you lift your arms off of your chest at the top of the backswing, not really much to do with height if your clubs are fit correctly.

[Richie3Jack]

One plane vs. Two plane makes me want to barf. We are all two plane. Even Moe and Hogan.

 

I'm a double shifter now who has flattened out my swing plane...more importantly my downswing plane quite a bit. I currently load the shaft pretty quickly, but will probably get into more of a lagging clubhead takeaway in the next few months. I have a random sweep release that will probably turn more into a snap release. I have pitch elbow and I'm working on a CP release.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3JACK

[Matt Saternus]

I think of myself as a one plane guy. I try to turn my left shoulder back and then through. While there might be a small change in plane, it's not something I try to do/think about/want to think about.

[bp4455]

Two plane most of the time but I've experimented with the others without the benefit of professional help.

 

If I feel I have too much sway in my swing of the day I might go S and T and see if it produces more solid hits.

 

At age 71 you have to find a way to get around the course despite your ailments.

[Golfware]

Hum.. not sure, but what I do know is that S&T sucks. My friend went to S&T for a while and just blocked everything right. Lost a good 20 yards on his drives and just didn't play well. Went back to his former swing and has been playing great.

[Richie3Jack]

I lost interest in the S&T when I determined that their stock ball flight and window wasn't something I was interested in. Plus, there's not many S&T teachers so working on it by yourself can be problematic.

 

For some, the S&T pattern is perfect. For others they may be better off using just some of the components while they keep their original swing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3JACK

[NGage]

I'm a Jim Hardy one plane guy...and was lucky enough to get to have a one on one lesson with him. It's still a work in progress, but at least after trying a few years on my own I've now got some solid info to work from.

[MmmmmmBuddy]

My swing has more planes than an airport. Works sometimes though. It has been described as "Ugly and Ineffective". Its what I got though.

[NGage]

My swing has more planes than an airport. Works sometimes though. It has been described as "Ugly and Ineffective". Its what I got though.

 

Only thing that matters about a swing is that it's repetitive. As long as you make the same swing over and over, you can play with what ya got, LOL.

[Matt Saternus]

Only thing that matters about a swing is that it's repetitive. As long as you make the same swing over and over, you can play with what ya got, LOL.

 

That's my brother's philosophy in a nutshell. I refer to his swing as "homebrew" because no teacher on earth would claim that they had anything to do with it. This is where I would say, "But it works for him" except that it doesn't, hahaha.

[Richie3Jack]

All that matters is impact because impact is objective.

 

The #1 issue with people and there golf swing is that they believe that getting the ball airborne is due to whether or not they 'look up' or 'keep their head down.' That is almost never the reason why they don't get the ball airborne.

 

But, they don't understand or believe that and that's why they continue to struggle because they are working on something that is not the problem. It's like having an issue with the transmission in your car, but your solution is always to make sure you have gas in the tank.

 

 

 

 

3JACK

[smthtakawy]

I have a one-plan swing. Have been for years. Had the opportunity to work with Doc who was with Jim Hardy years ago. Also worked with Roger Gunn for a very short time.

[Addicted2Golf]

I'm a one plane guy also. My plane though is extremely flat right now and that isn't good. Time for some lessons to straighten myself out I suppose.

[jamo]

My swing has more planes than an airport. Works sometimes though. It has been described as "Ugly and Ineffective". Its what I got though.

 

Same with Ricky Fowler, and he's decent. You can work with it.

[jamo]

Only thing that matters about a swing is that it's repetitive. As long as you make the same swing over and over, you can play with what ya got, LOL.

 

Not really. If your swing repeatedly sucks it still sucks. If it is a repeatable 5 yard draw, then you're all right.

[Addicted2Golf]

Same with Ricky Fowler, and he's decent. You can work with it.

 

Yeah, but I don't think you can pull that off without one of those Puma two sizes-too big hats dude. I think it helps to balance the whole two plane thing out. Just a theory.

[jamo]

Yeah, but I don't think you can pull that off without one of those Puma two sizes-too big hats dude. I think it helps to balance the whole two plane thing out. Just a theory.

 

And the flat brim.

[Jack aMMo]

Been reading a lot about S&T lately and just got the book. Will give it a try.

[Funkyfedora]

I am a Stack and Tilter myself. It is really close to my natural swing already and reading about it helped improve my game.

[jamo]

SnT is a pretty good swing. I have some elements of it in my own swing, but there are some things about it that I don't like.

[Addicted2Golf]

SnT is a pretty good swing. I have some elements of it in my own swing, but there are some things about it that I don't like.

 

I'm interested to hear what you don't like about it. Do tell.

[jamo]

I'm interested to hear what you don't like about it. Do tell.

 

The first two things that I am going to list are things that I have taken as things that are meant to set you up to be in a good position. My point being that even if you don't do these things you can still get in a good impact position, which I do. The first is the takeaway. SnT emphasized "deep hands" meaning if you looked at a swing down the line, they would be farther left. Is meant to that you are in correct position to make that some move coming down, thus swinging in-to-out, the preferred path of most golfers. My takeaway is more straight back, where my hands "disappear" behind the club head, but during the downswing I still swing in-to-out, so I haven't decided to change my takeaway.

 

The second thing I don't like is that one the backswing, they want you to be slightly forward, so that you continue that push forward on the downswing. All of the best players push their hips forward on the downswing, as do I, but I don't feel a need to do that on the backswing. On the backswing I keep my weight centered over the ball, then push forward on the downswing.

 

My third issue, well more of a nit to pick, is their preferred finish. I am not a huge fan of the abrupt finish, I prefer more of a full finish, but that is a small thing.

 

Once again, as I said I employ a lot of the of elements of SnT in my swing, these are the one that I don't. Feel free to critique my reasoning if you wish. Are you a Stack and Tilter?

[buttmuncher]

I have a very simple, natural swing that feels like it's all one plane to me.

[jamo]

I have a very simple, natural swing that feels like it's all one plane to me.

 

Have you ever taken video of your swing to confirm?

[lmh3]

I use a one plane swing, just feels more natural to me.