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Need some help fellas. I'm toying with the idea of replacing my R flex shafts with S flex and I want to hear some opinions.

 

My driver swing speed is pretty much right at 100mph and I was fitted into an S flex when I did the fitting for the JPX-EZ driver and fairway. I'm now hitting the driver and fairway further and straighter than I have before.

 

I know we don't swing irons at the same speed, but would it be fair to say that I might be better off with a S flex in my irons as well instead of the R that I have now. My shots tend to be right of the target with my irons currently.

 

If I was to change I know what shafts I'll be using, so brand isn't an issue, just whether it would be a wise move or not.

In the bag:
Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0
Hybrid: Maltby KE4 HDI 19°, 23° & 25° UST Recoil 660 F4

Irons: Maltby DBM Forged UST Recoil 660 F4
Wedge: :cleveland-small: Smartsole S

Wedge: SCOR4161 46° and 50° 
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
Bag: 
:Ogio: Alpha Convoy 514
Balls: MAXFLI Tour

Cart: :CaddyTek: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8


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Could you build a test club and see if you like it or not?

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Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

Putter:   :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot

 

 

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Not knowing your swing or your game I would suggest going to a good fitter and let them run the numbers on the driver since you hit it so good. There are a lot of factors to consider as in how much tip flex you are getting. Or to simplify matters you can do as Theoo suggested try an experimental shaft in your irons if you do your own club work. there are a lot of factors at work here. I am a big proponent on the tip flex thing. Good example I can take my standard shaft a DG S-300 and tip it for one club 3 or 4 different ways. IMHO That is an example of a versitile shaft and that is why I lean towards them. Another thing never believe a shaft label on a used club or pull out shaft. Good example the Adams stock shaft in my 5 wood states it is a Stiff flex but putting it on a frequency machine reveals it is actually a regular flex soft tip. It can get complicated at times. Your driver may have a stock from the factory shaft and the numbers can vary on any of them. Evidently you have found one that matches up for you perfectly.. Let me know what happens with you

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Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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Could you build a test club and see if you like it or not?

 

I'm leaning towards going that route. Build a Maltby DBM 6 iron with the FST 90 shaft that I use but stiff flex...all up I might have $45 in it.

 

Thanks for the insight Stu! I'll definitely keep this updated.

In the bag:
Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0
Hybrid: Maltby KE4 HDI 19°, 23° & 25° UST Recoil 660 F4

Irons: Maltby DBM Forged UST Recoil 660 F4
Wedge: :cleveland-small: Smartsole S

Wedge: SCOR4161 46° and 50° 
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
Bag: 
:Ogio: Alpha Convoy 514
Balls: MAXFLI Tour

Cart: :CaddyTek: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8


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I'm leaning towards going that route. Build a Maltby DBM 6 iron with the FST 90 shaft that I use but stiff flex...all up I might have $45 in it.

 

Thanks for the insight Stu! I'll definitely keep this updated.

Those FST 90s are also a very good shaft especially for the price. If you look at the Golfworks catalog at the tipping instructions they are also very versitile as to tipping options. I have a set of those shafts in the forged Infiniti TS-10 irons I did the research work on for Championship Golf here and they hit pretty good

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Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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Why don't you go and get fitted for them, do it once and then forget about things maybe not being right for you.

 

I could probably do that when if I go to Golfworks to pick up a head and shaft.

In the bag:
Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0
Hybrid: Maltby KE4 HDI 19°, 23° & 25° UST Recoil 660 F4

Irons: Maltby DBM Forged UST Recoil 660 F4
Wedge: :cleveland-small: Smartsole S

Wedge: SCOR4161 46° and 50° 
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
Bag: 
:Ogio: Alpha Convoy 514
Balls: MAXFLI Tour

Cart: :CaddyTek: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8


God Bless America🇺🇸, God save the Queen🇬🇧, God defend New Zealand🇳🇿 and thank Christ for Australia🇦🇺!

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I could probably do that when if I go to Golfworks to pick up a head and shaft.

Yep you could. Another buddy of mine on WRX lives near there and posted pics the other night of the faculity and it is impressive to say the least. I have done business for at least 20 years with those folks and they have outstanding service. My buddy was telling me that they have more stuff at their shop than they do in the catalog and have a complete fitting place and all

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Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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Sounds like a road trip is in order then. I might have to get there first thing so I can get a round in with Mr Theoo while I'm down there.

In the bag:
Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0
Hybrid: Maltby KE4 HDI 19°, 23° & 25° UST Recoil 660 F4

Irons: Maltby DBM Forged UST Recoil 660 F4
Wedge: :cleveland-small: Smartsole S

Wedge: SCOR4161 46° and 50° 
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
Bag: 
:Ogio: Alpha Convoy 514
Balls: MAXFLI Tour

Cart: :CaddyTek: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8


God Bless America🇺🇸, God save the Queen🇬🇧, God defend New Zealand🇳🇿 and thank Christ for Australia🇦🇺!

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Sounds like a road trip is in order then. I might have to get there first thing so I can get a round in with Mr Theoo while I'm down there.

Sounds good to me! Golfworks is like 20 minutes from my house

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Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

Putter:   :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot

 

 

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I'll let you know mate...probably earlyish September. My Mum arrives on Saturday, so time will be sparse until she leaves.

In the bag:
Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0
Hybrid: Maltby KE4 HDI 19°, 23° & 25° UST Recoil 660 F4

Irons: Maltby DBM Forged UST Recoil 660 F4
Wedge: :cleveland-small: Smartsole S

Wedge: SCOR4161 46° and 50° 
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
Bag: 
:Ogio: Alpha Convoy 514
Balls: MAXFLI Tour

Cart: :CaddyTek: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8


God Bless America🇺🇸, God save the Queen🇬🇧, God defend New Zealand🇳🇿 and thank Christ for Australia🇦🇺!

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Build a test club and try it out.

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What's In The Bag:

Driver:  Tour Edge Golf EX9 10 degrees, UST Mamiya ATTAS COOOL Stiff Flex
Hybrid:  Tour Edge Golf Exotics EX9 #3 Hybrid, UST MAMIYA RECOIL 670 F4 Stiff Flex
Irons:
:benhogan-small: Ft. Worth 15 Irons, 23, 27, 31, 35, 39, 43, 47 KBS Tour 90 S-Flex Shaft
Wedges:
:benhogan-small: TK 15 Wedges, 51, 55, 59. KBS Tour 90 S-Flex Shaft
Putter: Buzelli Golf STA-1, Standard Loft/Lie
Ball:  Snell Golf My Tour Ball 

 

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What is the reason you are considering moving to stiff?  Is your ball flight too high? Is your dispersion all over the place?

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:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW OBAN CT 115X(-)

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What is the reason you are considering moving to stiff?  Is your ball flight too high? Is your dispersion all over the place?

 

I now know my swing speed and I was overpowering the R flex in the driver, hitting a lot of slices. Changed to S flex in the driver and the slices are pretty much a thing of the past unless I try to swing out of my shoes. 

 

Irons are R flex and I'm constantly right of the target, so my thinking is it could be the result of too much flex just like the driver...maybe I'm thinking too simply. But to answer your question, dispersion issues would be the best call.

 

I'll find out I guess when I get down to Golfworks in September.

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In the bag:
Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0
Hybrid: Maltby KE4 HDI 19°, 23° & 25° UST Recoil 660 F4

Irons: Maltby DBM Forged UST Recoil 660 F4
Wedge: :cleveland-small: Smartsole S

Wedge: SCOR4161 46° and 50° 
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
Bag: 
:Ogio: Alpha Convoy 514
Balls: MAXFLI Tour

Cart: :CaddyTek: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8


God Bless America🇺🇸, God save the Queen🇬🇧, God defend New Zealand🇳🇿 and thank Christ for Australia🇦🇺!

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I now know my swing speed and I was overpowering the R flex in the driver, hitting a lot of slices. Changed to S flex in the driver and the slices are pretty much a thing of the past unless I try to swing out of my shoes.

 

Irons are R flex and I'm constantly right of the target, so my thinking is it could be the result of too much flex just like the driver...maybe I'm thinking too simply. But to answer your question, dispersion issues would be the best call.

 

I'll find out I guess when I get down to Golfworks in September.

Maybe get the lies looked at too, I know after I've improved my swing my irons are a bit too upright causing a few hooks every once in a while

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Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

Putter:   :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot

 

 

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I'd also look into soft stepping stiff flex as well. Tempo and transition will have an impact as will release point. Speed is an indicator but how you get that speed matters. A good fitter and builder would be able to workout out for an ideal match for you

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In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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I would say to go get fitted and have a professional tell you whether or not you'd be better off with stiff shafts

 

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I now know my swing speed and I was overpowering the R flex in the driver, hitting a lot of slices. Changed to S flex in the driver and the slices are pretty much a thing of the past unless I try to swing out of my shoes. 

 

Irons are R flex and I'm constantly right of the target, so my thinking is it could be the result of too much flex just like the driver...maybe I'm thinking too simply. But to answer your question, dispersion issues would be the best call.

 

I'll find out I guess when I get down to Golfworks in September.

Now with what you are saying that is a great example of how everyone is different. Back in the day when I really had a fast SS and fast hands I would rope hook a regular shaft. That is why I used to hit the stiffest rebar thing you could get. Now that I have gotten older and the SS has slowed and the hands are not so handsy I hit soft tipped shafts and my old stiff shafts I played as recently as 2 years ago I will slice because I don't have enough oompah to get them through the ball any more.

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Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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