StrokerAce 11,773 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hey guys... having some inconsistency on the greens lately and considering switching from my standard putting grip to the claw/pencil style. Tried the left-hand-low style but I can't get the feel down using that method. Anyone switch to claw/pencil grip with some tips/tricks to share? One thing I read is that you need to move the ball back a smidge if you do it... Quote I got something to say then I'm gonna say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmaygolf 73 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I've also been considering a change for awhile but haven't committed to anything yet Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 1,218 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I have had times where I struggled putting conventionally. I would usually make the switch to left hand low and after a few rounds go back to conventional. Sometimes you just need to switch it up and shock your mental focus. whether that is pencil or claw, that is up to you. 1 Quote In my bag: Driver: Speedzone Xtreme 9.0* Fujikura Motore X F1 6X Wood: Speedzone Tour Fujikura Motore X F1 7X Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Srixon ZX5 4-6 (1 degree weak), ZX7 7-PW Project X 6.5 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B 34,365 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 There is absolutely no way I could ever putt left hand low. It just feels so odd to me that it becomes the focus of my stroke and I can't putt the ball on the line I want. 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemclub 1,026 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 have you tried a different conventional grip? Geoff Mangum recommends the "two pistoleros" grip as opposed to the "left index finger on top of right hand - reverse overlap" grip. The "two pistoleros" grip puts the entire left hand on the shaft which I find gives a little more feel. Mangum is all about having the left side control the put, so having the whole left hand on the club is key for him. Also Two Pistoleros is a lot more fun to say than reverse overlap or the even more cumbersome "left hand low". That alone should improve your putting. Then when you sink the putt you say "Choke on that baby! Waboom! Shoota!" two pistoleros reverse overlap Shoota 2 Quote Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link) Cart: 3.5+ Driver: F9 speedback, Accra iWood Woods: Sonartec GS Tour 14*, Fujikura Six S DI: T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X, Irons: PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Wedges: 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Putter: EXO Indianapolis (link) Ball: MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce 11,773 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 ROTFLMAO!!! Quote I got something to say then I'm gonna say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door 5,844 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I will putt conventional on everything that is outside 10 feetish, and I will put right hand low on putts inside the 10 foot mark I have better feel for distance for the longer putts but for the shorter putts right hand low helps me start the ball on the correct line 1 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev 25,721 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I actually use an interlocking grip to putt with - It has been so effective that I can actually remember the first time that I tried it - On the first green at Town and Country Golf course in Sheboygan WI in the Fall of 2005. I had been putting like you know what and thought what the heck. I have never looked back. Don't even begin to ask me why it works though. 1 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 10.5 Aldila Ascent Red R flex Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Wilson D7 forged 5-GW - Mamiya recoil 460 R flex Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Still on that elusive hunt for a 3 wood that I'm able to hit - I don't know why, I crush the 5 wood and it's really a 4 wood anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU 11,244 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 As long as I have played I have used the same grip on my putter as on my regular clubs which is the overlap. In the last few years I had putting woes which was an eye alignment problem. Lately I had been getting shakey over any thing under 6 feet. Those used to be automatic for me. Found out some of it is age and my BP meds. I tried the left hand low and I felt bound up with it because I have always forward pressed and could not do so left hand low. I basically have always had the same putting stroke as Mickelson. So I tried the claw suddenly the putter felt good in my hands again. I also had a 2.0 SS on a putter I found in the pile and so I took it off that putter and put it on the Santa Fe I also had to add 8 grams of lead tape to the bottom to balance it out. Overall it feels great. I had practiced it for 2 weeks and put it to the test on my course in play last Saturday. It works did not miss anything under 6 feet and I can get aggressive again on the longer putts because I no longer fear the comeback As I have preached for years you have to find a grip style that lets you be tension free and comfortable over the ball because tension anywhere in golf is no good especially putting. As far as stance change I did not have to change a bit because I am left eye dominant anyhow and I line up with my left eye over the ball but everyone sees different so that may be a change you have to make 1 Quote Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*--- Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B 34,365 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 As long as I have played I have used the same grip on my putter as on my regular clubs which is the overlap. My coach said to use any grip I want, as long as it was NOT the same grip as on the other clubs. Never thought about it, because that grip never felt good on the putter anyway. I grip the putter with my left hand (I'm RH) with my index finger down the side of the grip facing the target. My right hand palm goes on the grip and I grip my left index finger and grip with the fingers of my right hand. Thats why I don't use a fat grip. My eyes are directly over the ball and I use a forward press and SBST pendulum stroke... looking at the hole. 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlukes 16,780 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Get Stockton's Unconscious Putting. The book changed (simplified) my entire approach to putting and made it less mechanical. Such a great book 1 Quote G410 LST 9* Tour AD DI 6X G425 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X MP20 HMB 4 - Tour AD 95X JPX 919 Tour 5-PW OBAN CT 115X(-) Vokey SM7 52F - 58D ChipR PLD Milled Anser 2 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpc2828 716 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Get Stockton's Unconscious Putting. The book changed (simplified) my entire approach to putting and made it less mechanical. Such a great book Yes! I agree fantastic book Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemclub 1,026 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 II would also recommend Geoff Magnum. He takes the few chapters talking about brain science but the middle of the book about the gravity stroke is intuitive and dead simple. 1 Quote Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link) Cart: 3.5+ Driver: F9 speedback, Accra iWood Woods: Sonartec GS Tour 14*, Fujikura Six S DI: T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X, Irons: PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Wedges: 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Putter: EXO Indianapolis (link) Ball: MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce 11,773 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Thanks for the tips guys... and the book recommendations! I need something to read at the beach on vacation. Quote I got something to say then I'm gonna say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrmull 89 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 There is absolutely no way I could ever putt left hand low. It just feels so odd to me that it becomes the focus of my stroke and I can't putt the ball on the line I want. That's pretty much how it feels for me. 1 Quote WITB:Driver: Cobra King LTDFairway: Ping G25 (3)Hybrid: Ping i25 (22 degree)Crossover: Ping G 5Irons: Ping i25 (5 -PW)Wedges: Bridgestone J15 forged 50 and 55 degreePutter: Cleveland TFi Elevado w/ Winn Pro grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF 15,031 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I use the same interlock grip that I use with my clubs, but I have the index finger of my right hand point down along the grip. 1 Quote In the bag: Driver: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0 Hybrid: Maltby KE4 HDI 19°, 23° & 25° UST Recoil 660 F4 Irons: Maltby DBM Forged UST Recoil 660 F4 Wedge: Smartsole S Wedge: SCOR4161 46° and 50° Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: MAXFLI Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the Queen, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU 11,244 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Get Stockton's Unconscious Putting. The book changed (simplified) my entire approach to putting and made it less mechanical. Such a great book Absolutely good book--- I am a big student and proponent of Stockton--- Another name for unconscious putting is instinct putting which I have done all my playing days 1 Quote Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*--- Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce 11,773 Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 have you tried a different conventional grip? Geoff Mangum recommends the "two pistoleros" grip as opposed to the "left index finger on top of right hand - reverse overlap" grip. The "two pistoleros" grip puts the entire left hand on the shaft which I find gives a little more feel. Mangum is all about having the left side control the put, so having the whole left hand on the club is key for him. Also Two Pistoleros is a lot more fun to say than reverse overlap or the even more cumbersome "left hand low". That alone should improve your putting. Then when you sink the putt you say "Choke on that baby! Waboom! Shoota!" two pistoleros Screenshot 2016-07-27 19.31.54.png reverse overlap Screenshot 2016-07-27 19.31.36.png Shoota Gave the 'ol "pistoleros" a try today and gotta say... I was shooting em down! Much better than I've putted in quite a while! Thanks for the tip. 1 Quote I got something to say then I'm gonna say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxbeachpackerfan 770 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I actually use an interlocking grip to putt with - It has been so effective that I can actually remember the first time that I tried it - On the first green at Town and Country Golf course in Sheboygan WI in the Fall of 2005. I had been putting like you know what and thought what the heck. I have never looked back. Don't even begin to ask me why it works though. Well, intrigued by this post (and I never noticed your putter grip in our rounds together), I tried the interlocking grip today, with no prior practice other than the pre round warm up. I dare to say, I will be remembering the day, first round back after two months injury hiatus. Wow, worked great! Had to work out trying to get a firm, solid grip (even though I have a superstroke oversize), eventually starting keeping my glove on, helped a lot. Overall, when I made a solid stroke, the putt went exactly where I wanted it to. Made a months worth of 10-20 ft putts today. 3 Quote Nonchalant putts count the same as chalant putts.In my Ogio Ozone XX Cart Stand Bag:Ping G400 10.5 Deg Driver, stock Stiff shaftTM Rocketballz 19 Deg 5 Wood, stock Matrix Osik Stiff shaftTM Rocketballz Stage 2 21 Deg Tour 4 Hybrid, Rocketfuel 80h Stiff shaft Callaway Apex CF 16 Irons, 4-P, Stiff Shafts Scor 48 and 55 degree wedges. Renegar 60 Deg Steel Shaft Lob WedgeTM Ghost Spider Si 38" Counterbalanced Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev 25,721 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I think it does what all good putter grips do, it inhibits wrist action. I still struggled with that today and hence the strokes had putting for me. Sent from my VS986 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Taylor Made Stealth 10.5 Aldila Ascent Red R flex Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Wilson D7 forged 5-GW - Mamiya recoil 460 R flex Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Still on that elusive hunt for a 3 wood that I'm able to hit - I don't know why, I crush the 5 wood and it's really a 4 wood anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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