RickyBobby_PR Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, yungkory said: The new line from TM is definitely eye catching. Possibly going back to tensei blue Absolutely. Already told some buddies that 770 will be in the bag for next season...could be sooner depending on how much of a bug for them I catch. Only question is do I combo and if so is it a mc/770 or 770/790 MDGolfHacker and yungkory 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Lost my Titleist hybrid head cover last week, so I guess I'm in the market for a new hybrid. Yeah I know, I could just get a replacement hybrid head cover, but what's the fun in that?? MDGolfHackerWhen you lose the headcover the club loses its magic, well known factSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy cnosil 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rickp said: When you lose the headcover the club loses its magic, well known fact Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I know right?! MDGolfHacker Rickp 1 Quote TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Lord have mercy, I'm thinking about a hybrid. AGAIN. No idea what, but it'll be a 4h. Maybe the 27th time is the charm???? Rickp, ole gray, revkev and 1 other 4 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, dlow206 said: Ventus is not behaving? Losing it so far to the right, too often. Easier to blame shaft than my swing 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Absolutely. Already told some buddies that 770 will be in the bag for next season...could be sooner depending on how much of a bug for them I catch. Only question is do I combo and if so is it a mc/770 or 770/790 Maybe all 3 with a super split like your current sig? RickyBobby_PR 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, yungkory said: Losing it so far to the right, too often. Easier to blame shaft than my swing Maybe all 3 with a super split like your current sig? I have been losing my SIM Max to the right too. Most of the time, not too far right but my course is narrow and punishing overall. Once in a while, there is a ball that goes WTF right. There is a pretty long thread about the SIM Max going right on WRX. Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, dlow206 said: I have been losing my SIM Max to the right too. Most of the time, not too far right but my course is narrow and punishing overall. Once in a while, there is a ball that goes WTF right. There is a pretty long thread about the SIM Max going right on WRX. I like that it is really, really hard to make it go left which is my "bad" miss. However, I seriously blocked one like 50y right on #9 last week and was in the middle of the wrong fairway. Lucky to get a hybrid on the green for an Eagle look, but on courses with taller trees that would've been bad news. Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, yungkory said: I like that it is really, really hard to make it go left which is my "bad" miss. However, I seriously blocked one like 50y right on #9 last week and was in the middle of the wrong fairway. Lucky to get a hybrid on the green for an Eagle look, but on courses with taller trees that would've been bad news. Yeah, I like that its hard to make it go left unless I make a really poor swing and pull the ball. I've been getting punished at times with a slight right miss that hits trees guarding the right side of the fairway. However, better than left, which is generally people's yards at my home course. I've got it in the upright setting and then increase the loft one setting to slightly close the face. That helped a bit. yungkory and edingc 2 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaksy68 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Seriously looking at a second hand Callaway Epic Flash Heavenwood. Its got the shaft I want and the ability to adjust loft without affecting the lie is making me think it's worth the gamble. Ideally I'd get a 7 wood, but finding a used one with a stiff shaft, let alone a shaft I know suits me is no easy task. Rickp, MattF and cnosil 3 Quote 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invader Zim 315 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Peaksy68 said: Seriously looking at a second hand Callaway Epic Flash Heavenwood. Its got the shaft I want and the ability to adjust loft without affecting the lie is making me think it's worth the gamble. Ideally I'd get a 7 wood, but finding a used one with a stiff shaft, let alone a shaft I know suits me is no easy task. heavenwood with a stiff shaft? Sounds like a dream but does not come around often Quote Driver: 2023 Callaway Paradym - Tensei AV White 65X 3w: Mizuno GT 180 14 degree 5w: Cobra Rad Speed 19 degree Irons: Mizuno Pro 225 4-PW Wedges: Vokey SM7 52F, 56M, 60M Putter: TaylorMade GTX black Ball: Titleist Pro V1x #7 2023 Callaway Paradym Driver Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheelvolvo Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I've used my Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth wedges for a season, but can't quite hit them right every time even after hours of chipping practice. Recently saw the new Mizuno ES21 wedges and i'm drooling already...now to just convince my treasurer they are a solid investment. Perhaps I'll hold off and try them out first to make sure they fit my swing/game so I don't get another Ping situation. Quote In my Hoofer: G410 LST 10.5* - Kai'Li White 60 X-flex VRS Covert 3W 15* - Kuro Kage 65 S-flex T200 4-GW, DG X100 Tour Issue - Tester Glide 2.0 Stealth 54.12 SS & 58.10 SS Zing 2 LW - 60* Anser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Since I purchased the SIM 3 wood with HZRDUS Green shaft, I have wanted to get that shaft for my driver. My dispersion is tight and I know exactly where this thing is going (The right percentage is from my first round getting used to this club, since then all center or slightly left of fairway, most of the misses have not been by much). I want to get and test it though before buying........Also the SIM 3 wood anyway is fantastic. cnosil and GolfSpy BOS 2 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwhite86 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Thinking about either replacing my irons or just the shafts... After some swing changes due to weight loss, I feel like I'm not loading the shaft Quote WITB Driver: Titleist TSi2 9º w/ Diamana DF 60 TX 3 Wood: Titleist 915F 16.5º w/ Diamana Blueboard or Taylor Made 300 Mini 11.5º w/ Fuji Ventus TR Red Hybrids: Callaway Super Hybrid 17º w/ Tensei Orange Titleist 816 H1 21º w/ Diamana Blueboard or Srixon U85 w/ UST Recoil Irons (6-43º): Titleist T400 w/ DG AMT Red Wedges: 48º Vokey SM6, 54º SM8, 60º Tour Issued Hand Ground Vokey Putter: Titleist Scotty Cameron Newport Masterful Tourtype SSS CT A048277 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaksy68 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Zimbo Slice 12 said: heavenwood with a stiff shaft? Sounds like a dream but does not come around often I decided against it after checking full specs, the heavenwood head is larger than my 3 wood so I'll hold out for a suitable 7 wood or bite the bullet and buy new. Invader Zim 315 1 Quote 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I'm thinking about longer term, improving at golf just so i can buy player's irons instead of playing SGI shovels. Nothing wrong with the shovels though, i like them for where I am at now in my journey. Is it bad to aspire to improve just to buy new clubs? sirchunksalot, edingc, yungkory and 1 other 4 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 4 hours ago, dlow206 said: I'm thinking about longer term, improving at golf just so i can buy player's irons instead of playing SGI shovels. Nothing wrong with the shovels though, i like them for where I am at now in my journey. Is it bad to aspire to improve just to buy new clubs? Not at all. I started taking lessons partially because I wanted to play more compact clubs, but also because I wanted to play nicer courses and still have chances to score. dlow206, sirchunksalot and MattF 3 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 My Mavrik Sub Zero 3 wood demo arrived at my club today. Haven’t hit it yet but if it is half as good as my Rogue Sub Zero was it is good as sold. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk sirchunksalot, Rickp, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote WITB 2024 Driver: Qi10 LS 9* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60 6.5 Fairway: M5 15* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Fairway: Sim 19* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Hybrid: 0317x 22* KBS Proto 95x Irons: X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Wedges: Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Putter: Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Ball: Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAgolfer2017 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 On 8/12/2020 at 5:44 AM, Peaksy68 said: Seriously looking at a second hand Callaway Epic Flash Heavenwood. Its got the shaft I want and the ability to adjust loft without affecting the lie is making me think it's worth the gamble. Ideally I'd get a 7 wood, but finding a used one with a stiff shaft, let alone a shaft I know suits me is no easy task. The one club that has been in my bag the longest is my GBB Heavenwood. Easily the most consistent club I hit. Peaksy68, Golfspy_CG2, Rickp and 1 other 4 Quote Bag: 4.5LS Driver: Stealth 9* w/ Aldila Red 60 Fairway: SIM 15* w/ Diamana 70 Fairway: GBB Heavenwood 19* w/ Fujikura Pro 72 Irons: p790 4-PW w/ C-Taper Lite 110s Wedge: MG3 50 & 54 Wedge: Hi-Toe 60* Putter: Spider X Ball: TP5 PIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I'm thinking about longer term, improving at golf just so i can buy player's irons instead of playing SGI shovels. Nothing wrong with the shovels though, i like them for where I am at now in my journey. Is it bad to aspire to improve just to buy new clubs?Have you tried hitting anything more on the player's side? I know this topic has opinions all over the place. In my "opinion", I think that if a mid to higher hcp wants to aspire to playing more compact clubs, they should give them a try at least. What I found when my hcp was in the teens, was that my game didn't suffer by going to more player style irons (Maltby DBM). I was actually pretty surprised that I could hit them so well contrary to what I'd been led to believe. I think that if you find your game isn't negatively altered by playing CBs or blades, and your willing to make the "all in" commitment to improve your game with them, then go for it! Additionally, if your fully committed, which I know YOU are :), you'll get feedback from smaller clubs that you won't get from SGI's. You'll learn even more about your swing and what needs improvement. I also found that as my level of skill requirement increased, so did my focus, and commitment to the game. In the past 2 yrs I've gone from mid teens to 6.3 by following this path. Currently I play slightly larger player irons but will be moving back to a smaller profile this week and know I won't skip a beat by switching.the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.. sirchunksalot and cnosil 2 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Waiting.. waiting.. oh does waiting suck! A couple weeks back I ordered a 3i head from Maltby/Golfworks in their TS1 lineup. I put it together with a KBS Tour 90 shaft. Its performance/looks would determine whether or not I move forward with a full set. Well I pulled the trigger last Monday. Ordered TS1 4-PW with TT DG 105 shafts and GP Microsuede grips. Also ordered a TSW 50° wedge head to build a Gap with a TT DG Spinner shaft. I've been waiting (not so patiently) for the GW to send the "shipped" email. I am NOT good at waiting. the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.. Rickp, sirchunksalot, edingc and 3 others 6 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, azstu324 said: Have you tried hitting anything more on the player's side? I know this topic has opinions all over the place. In my "opinion", I think that if a mid to higher hcp wants to aspire to playing more compact clubs, they should give them a try at least. What I found when my hcp was in the teens, was that my game didn't suffer by going to more player style irons (Maltby DBM). I was actually pretty surprised that I could hit them so well contrary to what I'd been led to believe. I think that if you find your game isn't negatively altered by playing CBs or blades, and your willing to make the "all in" commitment to improve your game with them, then go for it! Additionally, if your fully committed, which I know YOU are :), you'll get feedback from smaller clubs that you won't get from SGI's. You'll learn even more about your swing and what needs improvement. I also found that as my level of skill requirement increased, so did my focus, and commitment to the game. In the past 2 yrs I've gone from mid teens to 6.3 by following this path. Currently I play slightly larger player irons but will be moving back to a smaller profile this week and know I won't skip a beat by switching. ... This is and always has been one of my pet peeves. I appreciate you prefacing with your opinion, which of course is perfectly valid for you. Golf equipment are simply tools to help you play your best. Irons especially are designed to offer a combination of complimenting what you do well or compensating for what you do poorly. There are players on all tours using SGI irons where playing their best is the way they make their living, so ego or loving a look are irrelevant to them. And as far as a smaller club head increasing your focus, that is just someone that is lazy mentally. I do not mean that as a negative comment, just a reality of all sports. If you want to practice making putts with a device the makes the hole smaller by covering it with a smaller hole in the middle you are basically just tricking yourself to do the exact same thing with a defined smaller target. However, the target remains the same. To be a good putter, you need to execute the putt with a target that is never the entire hole. You focus on the middle, the left side or the right side so there was always a smaller target. The mentally lazy just kinda putts at the entire hole. ... SGI irons usually have more weight low and more weight in the heel/toe to compensate for not hitting the center consistently, not producing enough spin for an ideal trajectory and helping the head to twist less when hit on the heel or toe with a closed or open face. Those exact same strikes with a Player Iron or worse and MB will have predictably worse results. But hitting the center of a MB is no different than hitting the center of an SGI because both will produce excellent results. If you need a smaller head to improve your focus that is just a lack of discipline because you can have the exact same focus with a SGI. Lack of focus is something everyone does so again not a negative comment, but you can focus with the exact same discipline or concentration using a hybrid iron or a MB. Doing reviews from hitting clubs at the PGA Show Demo day, I have never had more or less focus hitting all the different clubs. My focus is the same if I am hitting the Titleist T100, T200 or T300 because I am trying too hit the center of all of them. ... All that said we are just golfers enjoying a sport and any away you choose to do that is of course perfectly valid. If you are a 18 handicaps but want to play Players CB's or MB's because that increases your enjoyment (maybe not your score) then obviously you should do that. I have no problem at all with dlow wanting to improve so he can play different irons or you improving your game/focus by moving to a smaller head. So I hope it doesn't sound like I am attacking your point of view as to what works for you, I am just going off years of teaching and getting paired up with thousands of golfers when I play. The truth is the best way to get better is using the equipment that fits your style off play and practicing, learning, improving and playing under the pressure of posting lower scores using those tools. I do find it kinda funny that most have no problem playing the most forgiving 460cc driver they can effectively play but some feel a stigma using the most forgiving irons they can play. GolfSpy_BNG, ole gray, Golfspy_CG2 and 6 others 8 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 ... This is and always has been one of my pet peeves. I appreciate you prefacing with your opinion, which of course is perfectly valid for you. Golf equipment are simply tools to help you play your best. Irons especially are designed to offer a combination of complimenting what you do well or compensating for what you do poorly. There are players on all tours using SGI irons where playing their best is the way they make their living, so ego or loving a look are irrelevant to them. And as far as a smaller club head increasing your focus, that is just someone that is lazy mentally. I do not mean that as a negative comment, just a reality of all sports. If you want to practice making putts with a device the makes the hole smaller by covering it with a smaller hole in the middle you are basically just tricking yourself to do the exact same thing with a defined smaller target. However, the target remains the same. To be a good putter, you need to execute the putt with a target that is never the entire hole. You focus on the middle, the left side or the right side so there was always a smaller target. The mentally lazy just kinda putts at the entire hole. ... SGI irons usually have more weight low and more weight in the heel/toe to compensate for not hitting the center consistently, not producing enough spin for an ideal trajectory and helping the head to twist less when hit on the heel or toe with a closed or open face. Those exact same strikes with a Player Iron or worse and MB will have predictably worse results. But hitting the center of a MB is no different than hitting the center of an SGI because both will produce excellent results. If you need a smaller head to improve your focus that is just a lack of discipline because you can have the exact same focus with a SGI. Lack of focus is something everyone does so again not a negative comment, but you can focus with the exact same discipline or concentration using a hybrid iron or a MB. Doing reviews from hitting clubs at the PGA Show Demo day, I have never had more or less focus hitting all the different clubs. My focus is the same if I am hitting the Titleist T100, T200 or T300 because I am trying too hit the center of all of them. ... All that said we are just golfers enjoying a sport and any away you choose to do that is of course perfectly valid. If you are a 18 handicaps but want to play Players CB's or MB's because that increases your enjoyment (maybe not your score) then obviously you should do that. I have no problem at all with dlow wanting to improve so he can play different irons or you improving your game/focus by moving to a smaller head. So I hope it doesn't sound like I am attacking your point of view as to what works for you, I am just going off years of teaching and getting paired up with thousands of golfers when I play. The truth is the best way to get better is using the equipment that fits your style off play and practicing, learning, improving and playing under the pressure of posting lower scores using those tools. I do find it kinda funny that most have no problem playing the most forgiving 460cc driver they can effectively play but some feel a stigma using the most forgiving irons they can play. Zoiks.. I was just trying to be encouraging and share a success story. In a world where we're told "you should never do that" and "this is wrong because...." It might be ok to do things differently because the outcome might surprise you. My apologies if my post came across as "my way is the only way" because that is definitely the opposite of what was intended.That's all.. the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.. Rickp and THEZIPR23 2 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, azstu324 said: Zoiks.. I was just trying to be encouraging and share a success story. In a world where we're told "you should never do that" and "this is wrong because...." It might be ok to do things differently because the outcome might surprise you. My apologies if my post came across as "my way is the only way" because that is definitely the opposite of what was intended. ... No apologies necessary azstu. Probably one of the things about writing and not seeing facial expressions or tone as I did not think you were promoting "my way is the only way" at all. I think opinions are always welcome on a golf forum and you can't do any better than using your own personal experience which is exactly what you did. I have heard it enough thru the years to know there are a select few that actually play better, focus more and have a positive experience moving to more demanding clubs. Clearly you are one of them so ! I had a student that insisted on playing MB's and whenever I tried to put him in more forgiving CB's his swing changed and he hit them worse. At first I thought he was sabotaging CB's but after a few lessons I realized he just had a mental black and was going to produce his best swings with MB's and his bad shots were still better than his bad shots with CB's. There are no constants in golf, just rules of thumb that apply to most and there are alway exceptions. ... But I have also run across way too many golfers playing clubs their level of expertise do not spport. A lot of "my friend/brother/dad told me I would do better with a club that will help me focus and start hitting the center more often" kinda comments. For the vast majority of people that play this game with swing flaws, and we all have them to some degree, if you can't hit the center of the club face with a T300 you are not going to start hitting the center with a T100 and your misses will be worse. But as you said "It might be ok to do things differently because the outcome might surprise you.' o experimenting and finding out what works best is never a bad idea. Sorry if my response came across as needing a Zoiks in response as that was not my intention either. silver & black, ole gray, GaDawg and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 When this CV thing is "behind us" and I get back to work. I'm seriously looking at the Mizuno JPX 921 forged. I was looking at the Mizuno SC18 MMC's.... and then the Mizuno MP 20 MMC's. I think the 921 forged is what I'm looking for in an iron. I will need to hit them, of course. yungkory and Rickp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, silver & black said: When this CV thing is "behind us" and I get back to work. I'm seriously looking at the Mizuno JPX 921 forged. I was looking at the Mizuno SC18 MMC's.... and then the Mizuno MP 20 MMC's. I think the 921 forged is what I'm looking for in an iron. I will need to hit them, of course. Normally I would be in the same position, but it seems like TM released the irons I wanted Mizuno to. I definitely want to test both though! silver & black 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 hours ago, azstu324 said: Have you tried hitting anything more on the player's side? I know this topic has opinions all over the place. In my "opinion", I think that if a mid to higher hcp wants to aspire to playing more compact clubs, they should give them a try at least. What I found when my hcp was in the teens, was that my game didn't suffer by going to more player style irons (Maltby DBM). I was actually pretty surprised that I could hit them so well contrary to what I'd been led to believe. I think that if you find your game isn't negatively altered by playing CBs or blades, and your willing to make the "all in" commitment to improve your game with them, then go for it! Additionally, if your fully committed, which I know YOU are :), you'll get feedback from smaller clubs that you won't get from SGI's. You'll learn even more about your swing and what needs improvement. I also found that as my level of skill requirement increased, so did my focus, and commitment to the game. In the past 2 yrs I've gone from mid teens to 6.3 by following this path. Currently I play slightly larger player irons but will be moving back to a smaller profile this week and know I won't skip a beat by switching. the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.. I previously owned JPX 919 Hot Metals, which still is in the GI category, but definitely more compact than my Mavrik Max irons. I ditched the Hot Metals pretty quickly because the shafts were just not a good fit (i had a poor fitting that was done before i knew much about clubs & fitting). The point makes sense about at least giving player's clubs a shot (in the future, not planning to spend more money now on irons). When things clear up from Covid, I'm planning to go to TXG and get a real fitting and will go with an open mind. yungkory and azstu324 2 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Next season will be the year of the 3 wood. I haven’t had any success with mine and for the love, I cannot find any confidence with it. Since I’m sidelined for the foreseeable future and my equipment budget has been tapped for this season I can wait a year to see. edingc 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, bens197 said: Next season will be the year of the 3 wood. I haven’t had any success with mine and for the love, I cannot find any confidence with it. Since I’m sidelined for the foreseeable future and my equipment budget has been tapped for this season I can wait a year to see. Have you thought about a 4 wood? Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 hours ago, chisag said: ... This is and always has been one of my pet peeves. I appreciate you prefacing with your opinion, which of course is perfectly valid for you. Golf equipment are simply tools to help you play your best. Irons especially are designed to offer a combination of complimenting what you do well or compensating for what you do poorly. Spoiler There are players on all tours using SGI irons where playing their best is the way they make their living, so ego or loving a look are irrelevant to them. Colin Montgomerie used Callaway XF SGI irons for years. And as far as a smaller club head increasing your focus, that is just someone that is lazy mentally. I do not mean that as a negative comment, just a reality of all sports. If you want to practice making putts with a device the makes the hole smaller by covering it with a smaller hole in the middle you are basically just tricking yourself to do the exact same thing with a defined smaller target. However, the target remains the same. To be a good putter, you need to execute the putt with a target that is never the entire hole. You focus on the middle, the left side or the right side so there was always a smaller target. The mentally lazy just kinda putts at the entire hole. ... SGI irons usually have more weight low and more weight in the heel/toe to compensate for not hitting the center consistently, not producing enough spin for an ideal trajectory and helping the head to twist less when hit on the heel or toe with a closed or open face. Those exact same strikes with a Player Iron or worse and MB will have predictably worse results. But hitting the center of a MB is no different than hitting the center of an SGI because both will produce excellent results. If you need a smaller head to improve your focus that is just a lack of discipline because you can have the exact same focus with a SGI. Lack of focus is something everyone does so again not a negative comment, but you can focus with the exact same discipline or concentration using a hybrid iron or a MB. Doing reviews from hitting clubs at the PGA Show Demo day, I have never had more or less focus hitting all the different clubs. My focus is the same if I am hitting the Titleist T100, T200 or T300 because I am trying too hit the center of all of them. ... All that said we are just golfers enjoying a sport and any away you choose to do that is of course perfectly valid. If you are a 18 handicaps but want to play Players CB's or MB's because that increases your enjoyment (maybe not your score) then obviously you should do that. I have no problem at all with dlow wanting to improve so he can play different irons or you improving your game/focus by moving to a smaller head. So I hope it doesn't sound like I am attacking your point of view as to what works for you, I am just going off years of teaching and getting paired up with thousands of golfers when I play. The truth is the best way to get better is using the equipment that fits your style off play and practicing, learning, improving and playing under the pressure of posting lower scores using those tools. I do find it kinda funny that most have no problem playing the most forgiving 460cc driver they can effectively play but some feel a stigma using the most forgiving irons they can play. I was surprised when I saw Colin Montgomerie was gaming the same Callaway XF SGI irons I bagged for a few years. He now has different irons however he used the XF for quite some time. HardcoreLooper and cnosil 2 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED13 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, dlow206 said: The point makes sense about at least giving player's clubs a shot (in the future, not planning to spend more money now on irons). When things clear up from Covid, I'm planning to go to TXG and get a real fitting and will go with an open mind. I recently got fitted for P790's. Had hit them first at a demo day at my golf club and found them easy to get the ball in the air. Had a fitting this summer and was won over on how easy they were to find the sweet spot with the right shaft. These irons are much easier to draw than my previous set. I live only 10 minutes from TXG's Toronto location and have done fittings with Alex, John and Cam. All three are very knowledgable and do a great job. You will not be disappointed. dlow206 and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote Driver - Ping G410 Woods - Callaway Rogue 5 wood Hybrid - Titleist TS2 21 degree Irons - Taylormade P790 5-PW Wedges - Taylormade MG3 50, 54, 58, SM9 60 Putter - Mizuno Black Carbon BC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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