What equipment are you thinking about?

[dlow206]

I love the Epic Max LS. Although it is supposedly fade biased, i hit a beautiful draw with it with the Autoflex. (the draw is probably do to some swing improvements, but i will give some credit to the equipment as well)

The guys i played with recently (play with them periodically) named the shaft "Autodraw". Probably hit 10 good solid draws in the fairway in my last round. 

[Mr_Theoo]

Been looking at evnroll putters. now that I have the irons settled id like to deck out a putter

[GolfSpy BOS]

26 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I love the Epic Max LS. Although it is supposedly fade biased, i hit a beautiful draw with it with the Autoflex. (the draw is probably do to some swing improvements, but i will give some credit to the equipment as well)

The guys i played with recently (play with them periodically) named the shaft "Autodraw". Probably hit 10 good solid draws in the fairway in my last round. 

I think the weight track helps with that too, but even in neutral I didn’t saw less fade bias than my speedzone.  Such a sweet driver, still at the top of my wish list! 

[ejgaudette]

46 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I love the Epic Max LS. Although it is supposedly fade biased, i hit a beautiful draw with it with the Autoflex. (the draw is probably do to some swing improvements, but i will give some credit to the equipment as well)

The guys i played with recently (play with them periodically) named the shaft "Autodraw". Probably hit 10 good solid draws in the fairway in my last round. 

I think that comes from the lie angle, the Max LS is at 57 which is two degrees flatter than the standard Max at 59. And a quick look has it about as flat as it gets. Just the Mizuno ST-Z is flatter at 56.5 so I think that is what they mean.

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

Got a dangerous email today 

 

 

[dlow206]

8 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

Got a dangerous email today 

 

 

Looks like that is tomorrow...

[golfish!]

Saw on a reddit group that Garmin just released a launch monitor. Initially thought it was a better deal than the Mevo that I already have and was thinking of putting mine up for sale and buying the Garmin. However someone on that reddit forum says a lot of the data is calculated like the Skytrak based on charts. Anyone have any thoughts on the Garmin LM?

EDIT: Just pre-ordered from Amazon (sold by Golfio, a local authorized distributor here in SoCal which I can visit if there are any issues. I also see playbetter.com is taking pre-orders as well) so will be waiting to see and test against the Mevo. 

[russtopherb]

Eying a guitar or two I never play & wondering if I can move them for enough to cover a set of used D7s or maybe some Launcher HBs... 

[edingc]

Wedges and wedge lofts. Trying to buy myself a short game, really. I've been miserable from inside of 100 yards, and I have a lot of second shots from the 30-75 yard range as a lot of holes at my course are tee shot/wedge.

Tried working on a clock system at the range but I think it's too mechanical and making things worse. I have at least one birdie in nine of my last 10 rounds (good!) but am leaving a lot of other short opportunities outside of 50 feet of the flag lately, which leads to long two-putt par saves or needing to chip back up if the ball ends up off the green. Looking at Lou Stagner's work, from 75 yards pros are inside of 30 feet 8/10 times. I'd be ecstatic with 5/10!

Considering replacing the 58 with a 60 degree to give me a little more loft. Also have contemplated dropping the set AW (50 degrees) and going 48/54/60.

Probably should just spend the money for a short game lesson and not the wedges...

[StrokerAce]

this:

want it badly.

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

5 minutes ago, edingc said:

Wedges and wedge lofts. Trying to buy myself a short game, really. I've been miserable from inside of 100 yards, and I have a lot of second shots from the 30-75 yard range as a lot of holes at my course are tee shot/wedge.

Tried working on a clock system at the range but I think it's too mechanical and making things worse. I have at least one birdie in nine of my last 10 rounds (good!) but am leaving a lot of other short opportunities outside of 50 feet of the flag lately, which leads to long two-putt par saves or needing to chip back up if the ball ends up off the green. Looking at Lou Stagner's work, from 75 yards pros are inside of 30 feet 8/10 times. I'd be ecstatic with 5/10!

Considering replacing the 58 with a 60 degree to give me a little more loft. Also have contemplated dropping the set AW (50 degrees) and going 48/54/60.

Probably should just spend the money for a short game lesson and not the wedges...

one thing to maybe think about is, have you tried not pitching and instead bump-and-running to get closer. You can use any club for it. hell i was 65 yrds out and did that with my6i and got to within 10 ft.

[chisag]

2 minutes ago, edingc said:

Wedges and wedge lofts. Trying to buy myself a short game, really. I've been miserable from inside of 100 yards, and I have a lot of second shots from the 30-75 yard range as a lot of holes at my course are tee shot/wedge.

Tried working on a clock system at the range but I think it's too mechanical and making things worse. I have at least one birdie in nine of my last 10 rounds (good!) but am leaving a lot of other short opportunities outside of 50 feet of the flag lately, which leads to long two-putt par saves or needing to chip back up if the ball ends up off the green. Looking at Lou Stagner's work, from 75 yards pros are inside of 30 feet 8/10 times. I'd be ecstatic with 5/10!

Considering replacing the 58 with a 60 degree to give me a little more loft. Also have contemplated dropping the set AW (50 degrees) and going 48/54/60.

Probably should just spend the money for a short game lesson and not the wedges...

 

... For me at least, this is the backbone of a practice round. Playing alone I will hit one or two tee shots, then one or two approach shots. But I will always drop multiple balls from 90-30 yds in and practice those shots. I can always practice my putting/chipping if needed on a practice green, but it is rare to get an opportunity to practice partial wedge shots. Then I just pick up all the balls and do it again on the next hole. Usually I don't even play the par 3's, just drop some balls in the short game range and practice my wedges. As you know this is where you can make up or lose strokes and I find on course practice with my normal TP5x balls to be invaluable. 

[edingc]

11 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

this:

want it badly.

Woof. For $600, with club face and path information? Might need to sell my Mevo+ already.

Crazy!

[chisag]

3 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

one thing to maybe think about is, have you tried not pitching and instead bump-and-running to get closer. You can use any club for it. hell i was 65 yrds out and did that with my6i and got to within 10 ft.

 

... Good idea! Playing my whole life in the soft Midwest conditions, my short game took place in the air. I only used my LW and it was very reliable. Moving to Phoenix changed everything. The Bermuda grain can be difficult to pitch from and the grain on the green can cause the ball to release or check up and I am still learning how to read and play those shots. But it is much safer to hit a bump and run because the Bermuda can't catch the leading edge if 1/16th of an inch fat which was perfect in the midwest but can just grab the club here in the desert and just stop in the ground. And even then the grain short of the green can release a little or grab the ball but still much more reliable than trying to fly a LW to the hole. If I do have a little grass under the ball from the light rough I can use my LW but that is rare here. 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

19 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

this:

want it badly.

Omg!!!!!!!

[edingc]

27 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

one thing to maybe think about is, have you tried not pitching and instead bump-and-running to get closer. You can use any club for it. hell i was 65 yrds out and did that with my6i and got to within 10 ft.

I do a sort of pitch/bump-and-run hybrid game. It's been so wet the last few weeks that I can't really run the ball through the grass because it will just get swallowed up. And, with shorter shots, wet balls and wet club faces, unless I really flop it way up there, I don't generate enough spin to get it to stop quickly. So a lot of times I end up having to play for the ball to land on the fringe and then run on to the green.

A lot of this is just me grumbling. Truthfully I've had some pretty terrible luck with lies lately as well (lots of patchy grass or just plain dirt) that hasn't really allowed me to play the type of shots I would normally want to. It would be better if I hit more than one fairway a round, which I've done twice now in the past week.  The rough is rightfully punishing me.

[golfish!]

18 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

Omg!!!!!!!

So from the playbetter blog they are saying some metrics are measured and others are calculated. Still at $600 this is much better than a Mevo (not the Mevo+) and almost competitive with some of the big boys. I have pre-ordered one from Amazon as I mentioned and hoping they ship sooner than the expected end of July.

[Chip Strokes]

i still have fairway woods on the brain. 

i think for the remainder of this season i’m gonna go with a 5w in place of my 2i. i found a tour issue sim2 5w at 18.2* on the bay that’s almost a direct swap for my 2i at 17*. i think the 5w will give me more versatility than the driving iron as well as a little forgiveness. 

then next year i’m probably gonna look at changing the top of the bag to a 4w/7w setup. my 3w is just way too long. i hit 3 drives with it yesterday that were well longer than 300. a “shorter” tee club that isn’t much shorter doesn’t help me too much. (i know, i know, no ones crying for me on this one.)

i think 4w/7w will give me great gapping and a lot of options at the top of the bag. 

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

7 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

i still have fairway woods on the brain. 

i think for the remainder of this season i’m gonna go with a 5w in place of my 2i. i found a tour issue sim2 5w at 18.2* on the bay that’s almost a direct swap for my 2i at 17*. i think the 5w will give me more versatility than the driving iron as well as a little forgiveness. 

then next year i’m probably gonna look at changing the top of the bag to a 4w/7w setup. my 3w is just way too long. i hit 3 drives with it yesterday that were well longer than 300. a “shorter” tee club that isn’t much shorter doesn’t help me too much. (i know, i know, no ones crying for me on this one.)

i think 4w/7w will give me great gapping and a lot of options at the top of the bag. 

Had to do it

[GolfSpy BOS]

1 hour ago, Chip Strokes said:

i still have fairway woods on the brain. 

i think for the remainder of this season i’m gonna go with a 5w in place of my 2i. i found a tour issue sim2 5w at 18.2* on the bay that’s almost a direct swap for my 2i at 17*. i think the 5w will give me more versatility than the driving iron as well as a little forgiveness. 

then next year i’m probably gonna look at changing the top of the bag to a 4w/7w setup. my 3w is just way too long. i hit 3 drives with it yesterday that were well longer than 300. a “shorter” tee club that isn’t much shorter doesn’t help me too much. (i know, i know, no ones crying for me on this one.)

i think 4w/7w will give me great gapping and a lot of options at the top of the bag. 

Sounds to me like maybe the Driver needs to go further so you have a good gap from your 3 wood. 

[Chip Strokes]

10 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

Sounds to me like maybe the Driver needs to go further so you have a good gap from your 3 wood. 

workin on it

[dlow206]

I need a fairway wood as well. I want something that works well first and foremost off the fairway, and secondly off the tee. Thinking a 5 wood or Callaway heavenwood. 

(And yes, I did buy and sell a Callaway Epic Flash heavenwood already without even using it). 

[Chip Strokes]

10 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I need a fairway wood as well. I want something that works well first and foremost off the fairway, and secondly off the tee. Thinking a 5 wood or Callaway heavenwood. 

opposite for me. correct distances off the tee is the most important thing for the clubs at the top of my bag. 

they won’t see much fairway use unless the hole is ridiculously long or my drive hits a tree. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

16 hours ago, edingc said:

Wedges and wedge lofts. Trying to buy myself a short game, really. I've been miserable from inside of 100 yards, and I have a lot of second shots from the 30-75 yard range as a lot of holes at my course are tee shot/wedge.

Tried working on a clock system at the range but I think it's too mechanical and making things worse. I have at least one birdie in nine of my last 10 rounds (good!) but am leaving a lot of other short opportunities outside of 50 feet of the flag lately, which leads to long two-putt par saves or needing to chip back up if the ball ends up off the green. Looking at Lou Stagner's work, from 75 yards pros are inside of 30 feet 8/10 times. I'd be ecstatic with 5/10!

Considering replacing the 58 with a 60 degree to give me a little more loft. Also have contemplated dropping the set AW (50 degrees) and going 48/54/60.

Probably should just spend the money for a short game lesson and not the wedges...

Unless you are going 60 to get a bounce/grind option not available in the 58 there’s really nothing a 60 can do the 58 can’t IMO. 
 

Things to consider would be what bounce/grind do you have now and does it work for your swing and playing conditions or are they the cause of your issues. Vokey fit is a great start to see. Also the new d grind is pretty good. I have it in my 54 and 60 and from the rough and fairway they have worked great. Haven’t had to use them in the sand yet but I doubt the grind will be a detriment

Before buying wedges, spend the $24 on Monte’s use the bounce 2.0 and see how that works out. 

 

[cnosil]

17 hours ago, edingc said:

Tried working on a clock system at the range but I think it's too mechanical and making things worse

Curious how you would approach this.   Is your thoughts on it being too mechanical because you think you need to go to a certain spot on the clock dial?   How do you control putting distances that isn’t mechanical?   Can you apply the same method here?   I can only think of two ways to approach this;  the first is same swing different speeds and the second is feel like the club goes to a certain point and then make the same speed/tempo swing.  The actual distance back doesn’t really matter as long as you dial in the feel that goes X yards.   How does a 75 yard swing feel?  If you don’t know you have to create and memorize that feel.  

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

10 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

opposite for me. correct distances off the tee is the most important thing for the clubs at the top of my bag. 

they won’t see much fairway use unless the hole is ridiculously long or my drive hits a tree. 

I envy your speed

[russtopherb]

10 hours ago, dlow206 said:

I need a fairway wood as well. I want something that works well first and foremost off the fairway, and secondly off the tee. Thinking a 5 wood or Callaway heavenwood. 

(And yes, I did buy and sell a Callaway Epic Flash heavenwood already without even using it). 

The Heavenwood is my security blanket. Mine is the older V-Series and I genuinely worry about trying to replace it.

[edingc]

2 hours ago, cnosil said:

I can only think of two ways to approach this;  the first is same swing different speeds and the second is feel like the club goes to a certain point and then make the same speed/tempo swing.  

Good thoughts. With putting I'm usually using the same speed, different lengths approach. I think I might be getting caught in between approaches with the wedges - quite possible that I'm adjusting both swing length and speed and that could be responsible for the wildly inconsistent results.

This is why I like posting around here because its not really something I've considered before...

2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Before buying wedges, spend the $24 on Monte’s use the bounce 2.0 and see how that works out. 

I have some of his other stuff and it's quality. Just bought it.

[cnosil]

3 hours ago, edingc said:

Good thoughts. With putting I'm usually using the same speed, different lengths approach. I think I might be getting caught in between approaches with the wedges - quite possible that I'm adjusting both swing length and speed and that could be responsible for the wildly inconsistent results.

This is why I like posting around here because its not really something I've considered before...

Next question is how did you build the feels for how far to take back the putter for a particular length and how do you determine how to adjust for uphill and downhill putts.   Apply that same approach to your wedge shots. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

4 hours ago, edingc said:

Good thoughts. With putting I'm usually using the same speed, different lengths approach. I think I might be getting caught in between approaches with the wedges - quite possible that I'm adjusting both swing length and speed and that could be responsible for the wildly inconsistent results.

 

This is something GG teaches in his online course. He has slow, medium and fast(not full swing fast). For chips it’s basically a putting type stroke and the speed is used based on what trajectory you want the ball to come out on based on pin location, green reading and lie. Iirc he refers to it as a 7:30 swing.

His clock system then readjusts for pitches but has the same concept of speed based on desired trajectory. Slow is going to get the ball high and land softer. Fast is going to be your bump and run style shot.

he uses 8:30 to reference the club head being half way between the ground and hip high which is what is his 9 o clock

its been awhile since I watched his short game videos so don’t recall his thoughts on choking down but based on him using more of the club standing up compared to how a normal shot is there was some choking down