GolfSpy_BEN Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 For those that are so inclined, I just got the following email from sub70. Don’t know a ton about these, but this price for used forged irons is hard to beat, much less brand new sticks. rkj427, DoubleBogeyDad and cksurfdude 3 Quote WITB: D: QI-10 core 9* Ventus Blue TR Velocore 6x 3w: Brnr mini driver 13.5 S 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 5i-6i: ZX5 MKII Project X 6.0 7i-PW: ZX7 MKII Project X 6.0 50°, 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: White Hot Versa DW Ball: Tour BX mindset Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleBogeyDad Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Not in a position to buy new irons (daycare is expensive) but good to know there are good options like this out there. I think I dropped almost triple that on Apex CF16s when they were new. GolfSpy_BEN and cksurfdude 2 Quote Dr: Stealth 10.5° Woods: M4 - 3W 15°, 5W 18° 4i-PW: MacGregor MT86 OS 50.08F/54.10S/60.08M: Pu: Ketsch Counter Balance Ball: MTB Prime Pushcart: 4.0 Rangefinder: Bushnell Tour V6 Shift Other: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) Just received my new order of Red Rooster gloves and they all fit inside the case. Items in this shipment The Crow × 1 Left hand / S / Cadet The Saddle × 1 Left hand / S / Cadet The Feather × 1 Left hand / S / Cadet The Benny × 1 Left hand / S / Cadet The Brahma - Limited Edition × 1 Left hand / S / Cadet Edited June 4, 2023 by Javs cksurfdude, SteveGH7 and Swood1994 3 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 As usual putters. Went to the golf store today to see if they had anything new in their used club section. Didn't see anything that I could live without, but tried a few shorter putters and liked the feel so I came home and cut down a putter to see how it works. Rickp, Javs, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Reading the ongoing LAB putter test thread got me 1.) looking into a LAB Mezz.1. Intriguing, but quickly ruled out because I’m not ready to drop $450 on a putter, at the moment. 2) Searching the pre owned sites for a center shafted mallet, that might allow me to give this style a try without the heavy financial commitment. 3) giving serious consideration to this: As most of you are aware the CPO site is a gold mine for used gear at temptingly reasonable prices. I haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but I am thinking about it. Javs and cksurfdude 2 Quote WITB: D: QI-10 core 9* Ventus Blue TR Velocore 6x 3w: Brnr mini driver 13.5 S 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 5i-6i: ZX5 MKII Project X 6.0 7i-PW: ZX7 MKII Project X 6.0 50°, 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: White Hot Versa DW Ball: Tour BX mindset Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richk9holes Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 @Ben Joest "great minds..." etc etc This is on RockBottomGolf Javs, GolfSpy_BEN and cksurfdude 3 Quote Finding a way to turn birdies into bogeys since 1992. #TeamChunks '23 Forum Tester: Elixir Golf Ball WITB:TS2 10.5° @ 11.25° Tensei blue AV 55 R graph•917f2 15° @ 16.5° Diamana blue x5ct dialed 70 R graph•Stealth 22° Ventus red 6 (non-velo) R graph• 699u 2i 17° tgi 70 R graph•24° Tour v 90 black pvd R steel•699 6i-PW Tour 110 black pvd R steel• SM8 50°/08° @ 52°/10° SM8 stock steel• Jaws Full Toe 56°/12° DG Spinner TI steel • c series DW 2.0 slant neck stock steel•Phantom 2 gps•Tour v3 rangefinder•Elixir golf ball• Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Ben Joest said: As most of you are aware the CPO site is a gold mine for used gear at temptingly reasonable prices. Haha all too well aware! Get on their email list for notifications of discounts (for can't resist temptation prices ). GolfSpy_BEN and cnosil 1 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I was at Golf Galaxy over the weekend and right below all of the locked up Scotty Cameron's were these LAGolf putters. I thought they looked pretty interesting and some had this unique swirl finish on the head. Tried them out and man do they feel good! ..and then I noticed the price tag! Couldn't believe the Scotty's (which are cheaper) were locked away but these were just sitting out. Anyhow - if you get a chance give one a roll. Some interesting designs and one odd hosel design that I noticed. CSiders12, Rickp, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Ben Joest said: Reading the ongoing LAB putter test thread got me 1.) looking into a LAB Mezz.1. Intriguing, but quickly ruled out because I’m not ready to drop $450 on a putter, at the moment. 2) Searching the pre owned sites for a center shafted mallet, that might allow me to give this style a try without the heavy financial commitment. 3) giving serious consideration to this: As most of you are aware the CPO site is a gold mine for used gear at temptingly reasonable prices. I haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but I am thinking about it. I didn’t know about the CPO site till I tested the Paradym Irons and have been hoping to the Callaway site more. Did you pull the trigger? cksurfdude and GolfSpy_BEN 2 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Javs said: I didn’t know about the CPO site till I tested the Paradym Irons and have been hoping to the Callaway site more. Did you pull the trigger? So. So. Close… but not yet cnosil, Javs and cksurfdude 1 2 Quote WITB: D: QI-10 core 9* Ventus Blue TR Velocore 6x 3w: Brnr mini driver 13.5 S 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 5i-6i: ZX5 MKII Project X 6.0 7i-PW: ZX7 MKII Project X 6.0 50°, 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: White Hot Versa DW Ball: Tour BX mindset Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Been practicing with the cutdown putter and it seems to be working fairly well based on data I collected for my ExPutt. Going to try and bed it a little more upright tonight. I say try because HQ has a loft lie machine, but unfortunately not mounted so we are going to try and clamp it to the bench. Might even become my gamer for this weekends outing. Kenny B, Tom the Golf Nut, Rickp and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSiders12 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I am currently rocking the Cobra Snakebite (2021) wedges in my bag. Although they have fared well for me, I am looking to replace them with a new set of wedges (50, 54, 58). There are a couple of reasons that I am looking to upgrade - 1) The snakebite wedges have a very sleek chrome finish, however, the reflection that you get off of the sun is blinding, 2) I don't feel as confident with my sand wedge around the greens and am looking for something with a higher toe that allows more playability, and 3) I am always looking for new equipment and the wedges that I have in mind are absolutely beautiful. The wedges that I am thinking about are the Sub70 TAIII wedges. I want the black finish, as those just look absolutely stunning. They also improved their groves to enhance spin, and my current lob wedge is starting to lose some spin (easily has over 100 rounds played). I have really liked the reviews that I read online, as well as the review from MyGolfSpy headquarters. Also, look at the absolute beauty of these wedges. (MyGolfSpy images) If anyone currently has these wedges, I would love to hear your thoughts, good and bad! cksurfdude, SteveGH7, GaryF and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Callaway Rogue ST MAX LS Hybrid: SIM 2 3 Hybrid Irons: Mizuno JPX 921 Tour 4-P Wedges: Sub70 TAIII 50, 54, 60 Putter: Mizuno M.Craft Type 03 Putter Maxfli Tour Golf Ball Review Rapsodo MLM2Pro Launch Monitor Review Unofficial Mizuno Type III Putter Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCGolf Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Thoughts on the Ping G430 FW’s? Compared to everything else that’s came out this year. Thanks in advance. Edited June 5, 2023 by RCGolf Changed my mind. GaryF and cksurfdude 2 Quote TSR2 9* Ventus Velocore Blue 6S TRS2 15* Ventus Velocore Red 7S TS 21* Diamana BF 80S TSI 23* Ventus HB 8S Titleist 714 AP2 5-9 PX 6.0 Vokey SM6 Raw 48F/SM8 50F/56M/60M SC X Fantom 5 Vessel Player 14 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 So, went back and forth Edison or Vokey Wedges. Finally decided to pull the plug on the Vokey Wedges. Wanted the grind/bounce to match my game and conditions. Went with a 54/D grind and 60/M grind. Since I was already committed I did a custom order with all black and snow effect skulls in white. Need some personalization at times! cksurfdude, RCGolf, ejgaudette and 1 other 4 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 11:24 AM, cnosil said: Been practicing with the cutdown putter and it seems to be working fairly well based on data I collected for my ExPutt. Going to try and bed it a little more upright tonight. I say try because HQ has a loft lie machine, but unfortunately not mounted so we are going to try and clamp it to the bench. Might even become my gamer for this weekends outing. I’ve been curious because there are a couple putters I really like but no ability to customize an order. I feel I need a putter with a slight toe hang (15-20deg) and ~2 deg upright (72*). Does bending to increase the lie angle upright affect the toe hang? Kenny B, cksurfdude and Rickp 3 Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mharris39 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 12:52 PM, CSiders12 said: I am currently rocking the Cobra Snakebite (2021) wedges in my bag. Although they have fared well for me, I am looking to replace them with a new set of wedges (50, 54, 58). There are a couple of reasons that I am looking to upgrade - 1) The snakebite wedges have a very sleek chrome finish, however, the reflection that you get off of the sun is blinding, 2) I don't feel as confident with my sand wedge around the greens and am looking for something with a higher toe that allows more playability, and 3) I am always looking for new equipment and the wedges that I have in mind are absolutely beautiful. The wedges that I am thinking about are the Sub70 TAIII wedges. I want the black finish, as those just look absolutely stunning. They also improved their groves to enhance spin, and my current lob wedge is starting to lose some spin (easily has over 100 rounds played). I have really liked the reviews that I read online, as well as the review from MyGolfSpy headquarters. Also, look at the absolute beauty of these wedges. (MyGolfSpy images) If anyone currently has these wedges, I would love to hear your thoughts, good and bad! Those are sweet looking. I have never seen these in person but the reviews are pretty solid cksurfdude and CSiders12 2 Quote TM Stealth 8. Degree.Ventus blue tr 6x Tm. Sim 3w. Ventus red tr 6s Tm. Stealth 5 wood. Ventus red tr 6s Callaway Apex Pro 21. 4-pw irons. Titliest 50 degree Sm9 gap wedge. Callaway jaws forged 56 and 60 wedges. Odyssey Stroke Lab. Big 7 armlock putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mharris39 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 9:44 PM, SpencerKelly said: Not in a position to buy new irons (daycare is expensive) but good to know there are good options like this out there. I think I dropped almost triple that on Apex CF16s when they were new. I had the cf16s. Not many irons better than them. I now have the 21 pros but have my cf16 4 iron still in the bag. cksurfdude 1 Quote TM Stealth 8. Degree.Ventus blue tr 6x Tm. Sim 3w. Ventus red tr 6s Tm. Stealth 5 wood. Ventus red tr 6s Callaway Apex Pro 21. 4-pw irons. Titliest 50 degree Sm9 gap wedge. Callaway jaws forged 56 and 60 wedges. Odyssey Stroke Lab. Big 7 armlock putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mharris39 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Miura cb 302s. Dream set. Have to hit them on a simulator tho but definitely possible forever clubs cksurfdude 1 Quote TM Stealth 8. Degree.Ventus blue tr 6x Tm. Sim 3w. Ventus red tr 6s Tm. Stealth 5 wood. Ventus red tr 6s Callaway Apex Pro 21. 4-pw irons. Titliest 50 degree Sm9 gap wedge. Callaway jaws forged 56 and 60 wedges. Odyssey Stroke Lab. Big 7 armlock putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, GaryF said: I’ve been curious because there are a couple putters I really like but no ability to customize an order. I feel I need a putter with a slight toe hang (15-20deg) and ~2 deg upright (72*). Does bending to increase the lie angle upright affect the toe hang? Bending a putter will slightly influence the to hang. Generalizing, Toe hang is influenced by where the shaft would intersect the face of you drew a line straight down the shaft and into the head. See the upper left image in the picture below. The closer to the heel the more the toe drops, center would be face balanced, and closer to the toe would decrease toe hang. If you change the lie angle by a few degrees is moves that intersection point closer or farther from the center which will change the toe hang by a few degrees. So in your example, if the stock lie angle is 70 and you make it 72, the intersection moves toward the heel so to hang would increase by a few degrees. cksurfdude, Rickp, Kenny B and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: Bending a putter will slightly influence the to hang. Generalizing, Toe hang is influenced by where the shaft would intersect the face of you drew a line straight down the shaft and into the head. See the upper left image in the picture below. The closer to the heel the more the toe drops, center would be face balanced, and closer to the toe would decrease toe hang. If you change the lie angle by a few degrees is moves that intersection point closer or farther from the center which will change the toe hang by a few degrees. So in your example, if the stock lie angle is 70 and you make it 72, the intersection moves toward the heel so to hang would increase by a few degrees. Glad you answered that for @GaryF, I wasn’t sure but your pic took care of that cnosil and cksurfdude 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Still toying with the idea of putting a 4w back in the bag for tighter tee shots. I ditched my 3w because I'd go 3-4 rounds without ever touching it, but now and again I miss having something between the driver and the Hywood for tee shots. SteveGH7, ejgaudette and cksurfdude 3 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCGolf Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Javs said: So, went back and forth Edison or Vokey Wedges. Finally decided to pull the plug on the Vokey Wedges. Wanted the grind/bounce to match my game and conditions. Went with a 54/D grind and 60/M grind. Since I was already committed I did a custom order with all black and snow effect skulls in white. Need some personalization at times! The 60M is a great all around grind/bounce combo, have played an M since it’s inception in all sorts of lofts. At 8* of bounce, it’s awesome in all conditions…for me. Javs and cksurfdude 2 Quote TSR2 9* Ventus Velocore Blue 6S TRS2 15* Ventus Velocore Red 7S TS 21* Diamana BF 80S TSI 23* Ventus HB 8S Titleist 714 AP2 5-9 PX 6.0 Vokey SM6 Raw 48F/SM8 50F/56M/60M SC X Fantom 5 Vessel Player 14 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, cnosil said: Bending a putter will slightly influence the to hang. Generalizing, Toe hang is influenced by where the shaft would intersect the face of you drew a line straight down the shaft and into the head. See the upper left image in the picture below. The closer to the heel the more the toe drops, center would be face balanced, and closer to the toe would decrease toe hang. If you change the lie angle by a few degrees is moves that intersection point closer or farther from the center which will change the toe hang by a few degrees. So in your example, if the stock lie angle is 70 and you make it 72, the intersection moves toward the heel so to hang would increase by a few degrees. Thank you - makes sense now! I have been trying out various putters to replace my forever Ping blade resulting in 2-3 3 putts forever. I was convinced I really liked the blade look but started to like mid mallet look and feel better. I recently tried the Odyssey double wide which is slightly less than 20* TH. Actually have used it 3 rounds. At this point, I’d prefer more mid mallet look, but results have been great. Yesterday was my first clean round with 0 3 putts. I do feel I have to set up an inch farther away that I’d like to get the right balance and viewpoint tho. I also like the Ping DS72 and Shea, and like the look better but have only been able to hit in the stores 2 hr away. Ping putters are customizable wrt lie angle. Javs, Rickp, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, GaryF said: Thank you - makes sense now! I have been trying out various putters to replace my forever Ping blade resulting in 2-3 3 putts forever. I was convinced I really liked the blade look but started to like mid mallet look and feel better. I recently tried the Odyssey double wide which is slightly less than 20* TH. Actually have used it 3 rounds. At this point, I’d prefer more mid mallet look, but results have been great. Yesterday was my first clean round with 0 3 putts. I do feel I have to set up an inch farther away that I’d like to get the right balance and viewpoint tho. I also like the Ping DS72 and Shea, and like the look better but have only been able to hit in the stores 2 hr away. Ping putters are customizable wrt lie angle. All Putters can be bent to some degree. This is the challenge of putters and finding one that works for you. Keep in mind that putter it’s the same toe hang may not perform the same. Weight also influences how a putter rotates through the stroke; a little more weight slows down rotation and a little less may speed it up. Like full swing clubs the looks and feel influence how we swing the putter and ultimately how they perform. Rickp, Javs, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, cnosil said: All Putters can be bent to some degree. This is the challenge of putters and finding one that works for you. Keep in mind that putter it’s the same toe hang may not perform the same. Weight also influences how a putter rotates through the stroke; a little more weight slows down rotation and a little less may speed it up. Like full swing clubs the looks and feel influence how we swing the putter and ultimately how they perform. Yup, weight is important. I seem to putt better when weight is below 350g and closer to 340g. cksurfdude, cnosil and Kenny B 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, cnosil said: Bending a putter will slightly influence the to hang. Generalizing, Toe hang is influenced by where the shaft would intersect the face of you drew a line straight down the shaft and into the head. See the upper left image in the picture below. The closer to the heel the more the toe drops, center would be face balanced, and closer to the toe would decrease toe hang. If you change the lie angle by a few degrees is moves that intersection point closer or farther from the center which will change the toe hang by a few degrees. So in your example, if the stock lie angle is 70 and you make it 72, the intersection moves toward the heel so to hang would increase by a few degrees. Do you or anyone at HQ know what happens when the loft of the putter is bent to 0º? I've found a putter that I want to reduce loft so I can try the Kuchar right arm lock stroke. Rickp and cksurfdude 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rickp said: Yup, weight is important. I seem to putt better when weight is below 350g and closer to 340g. And I putt better when the putter head weight is closer to 400g. Rickp and cksurfdude 1 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kenny B said: And I putt better when the putter head weight is closer to 400g. Man, we are all different, that’s why there’s so many clubs & putters out there! I cut down a Flanagan 330gr to slightly under 33” and ruined it. It was 35” and need to bring it back to 34”. Javs, Kenny B, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, cnosil said: All Putters can be bent to some degree. This is the challenge of putters and finding one that works for you. Keep in mind that putter it’s the same toe hang may not perform the same. Weight also influences how a putter rotates through the stroke; a little more weight slows down rotation and a little less may speed it up. Like full swing clubs the looks and feel influence how we swing the putter and ultimately how they perform. ...not to mention counterbalancing! I have a longer shaft (38") that I choke down on with a 375g head but the shaft is counterbalanced so it doesn't "feel" as heavy as it did when it was a standard 34" putter. richk9holes, Kenny B, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, StrokerAce said: ...not to mention counterbalancing! I have a longer shaft (38") that I choke down on with a 375g head but the shaft is counterbalanced so it doesn't "feel" as heavy as it did when it was a standard 34" putter. I tried that briefly and didn’t work for me but does for some people. cksurfdude, StrokerAce and Kenny B 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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