What equipment are you thinking about?

[BallsLeon]

10 hours ago, Marlin Dave said:

The 350s are crazy strong lofted and just like any GI iron nowadays they fly far but are hard to stop on greens

I’d try them out, didn’t have this problem with T350s during my fitting. Ended up with T200s, but wasn’t all that different than hitting the 350s.

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11 hours ago, BallsLeon said:

I’d try them out, didn’t have this problem with T350s during my fitting. Ended up with T200s, but wasn’t all that different than hitting the 350s.

I think if you tried the T350 outside hitting to a real green you most likely would agree, But with that being said it's something all the new Super Game Improvement irons will feature!!! 

[RickM71]

I signed up to do a fitting at PXG for Saturday as I've been reading many people think the 0311 XP and P models are very soft and forgiving. I really enjoy the feel of a soft iron, but would benefit from the game improvement forgiveness on off center hits. I don't really mind looking at larger or odd shaped clubs if I feel I can hit it well. The XP looks to be more forgiving but has extra strong lofts. It looks like the lofts are almost a club stronger than the forged tecs I'm hitting now, which are already one club stronger than what I used to hit. 

Any suggestions with things to prepare for or ask about during a PXG fitting? I tried going in and just asking to hit a few balls with their irons as I can probably tell pretty quickly if they will compete with other irons I'm considering, but they said I had to schedule a fitting to try them. 

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29 minutes ago, RickM71 said:

I signed up to do a fitting at PXG for Saturday as I've been reading many people think the 0311 XP and P models are very soft and forgiving. I really enjoy the feel of a soft iron, but would benefit from the game improvement forgiveness on off center hits. I don't really mind looking at larger or odd shaped clubs if I feel I can hit it well. The XP looks to be more forgiving but has extra strong lofts. It looks like the lofts are almost a club stronger than the forged tecs I'm hitting now, which are already one club stronger than what I used to hit. 

Any suggestions with things to prepare for or ask about during a PXG fitting? I tried going in and just asking to hit a few balls with their irons as I can probably tell pretty quickly if they will compete with other irons I'm considering, but they said I had to schedule a fitting to try them. 

I know nothing about PXG but you will find most Forged clubs will offer a super buttery feel and if you do not like the PXG I suggest finding a set of PING I500 irons as they offer a forged face and also tons of forgiveness. Think of a game improvement iron that is not a game improvement iron and more of a players distance that just so happens to be realy forgiving, beautiful,  thin top line and in between Game Improvement size and player iron size and is suitable for any golfer from scratch to a 16hdcp and they look super sexy!!! A forgiving hollow body club that looks like a Taylormade 790 or Titleist 200 but nicer imo of course

[Dead Solid Bogey]

1 hour ago, Marlin Dave said:

I think if you tried the T350 outside hitting to a real green you most likely would agree, But with that being said it's something all the new Super Game Improvement irons will feature!!! 

I game the T350’s from the 7i through PW and not having any major problems staying on the greens. Granted it is a rare occasion that I hit a green..

[BreakfastBall15]

As much as I like the looks of the Wilson dynapower forged and the Srixon ZX 5/7 MKII, I’m leaning towards Sub 70 based off price. Either the 699 Pro V2 or the 659 CB. Anyone play either and have any feedback? The only thing I really don’t like about the 699s is the back badge

[berkeleybob]

@BreakfastBall15 Sub 70 offers demo clubs to send to you so you can try them out. They’re pretty good on the phone to answer questions as well.

I recently got the 699 V2 irons. I’m loving the forgiveness aspect, not sure how that translates to the pro version. I understand that they are a little larger and a little more offset. If you have a specific question, I can try to answer, but your best bet might be to take advantage of their demo process.

Mine are black, so I don’t notice the badge.

[BreakfastBall15]

6 minutes ago, berkeleybob said:

@BreakfastBall15 Sub 70 offers demo clubs to send to you so you can try them out. They’re pretty good on the phone to answer questions as well.

I recently got the 699 V2 irons. I’m loving the forgiveness aspect, not sure how that translates to the pro version. I understand that they are a little larger and a little more offset. If you have a specific question, I can try to answer, but your best bet might be to take advantage of their demo process.

Mine are black, so I don’t notice the badge.

I was planning on doing the demo program in a few weeks. I’ll probably demo the CBs and if I like them I’ll go that route but the 699s if I need more forgiveness. The black is a good idea to hide the badging. How does the paint hold up on the face?

Edited March 13 by BreakfastBall15

[berkeleybob]

3 minutes ago, BreakfastBall15 said:

I was planning on doing the demo program in a few weeks. I’ll probably demo the CBs and if I like then I’ll go that route but the 699s if I need more forgiveness. The black is a good idea to hide the badging. How does the paint hold up on the face?

Somebody asked this in another thread. This is my 699-U V2. I’ve had it for a year with moderate usage inside and out.

 

[BreakfastBall15]

@berkeleybob that looks fantastic. Looks like they’ve improved the finish significantly since the OG 699

[berkeleybob]

@BreakfastBall15 I’ll try to post another picture tomorrow to give you a little better idea. I’m hoping to pull together an unofficial review of the irons.

[J7Hawkins]

19 minutes ago, berkeleybob said:

Somebody asked this in another thread. This is my 699-U V2. I’ve had it for a year with moderate usage inside and out.

 

This black seems to be holding up much better than my PXG XCOR2 set…

[ParFore74x]

22 minutes ago, berkeleybob said:

Somebody asked this in another thread. This is my 699-U V2. I’ve had it for a year with moderate usage inside and out.

 

Looks to be holding up quite well! 

[berkeleybob]

@J7Hawkins This is my first black set. Can you post a picture of your iron face? I’m curious about what the difference is.

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2 hours ago, Dead Solid Bogey said:

I game the T350’s from the 7i through PW and not having any major problems staying on the greens. Granted it is a rare occasion that I hit a green..

I wasn't picking on the 350 simply stating that I've had alot of trouble with "distance irons" in general holding greens but that's any and all. I play them in the top of my bag 4-6 and I've learned to allow for roll out as they just don't spin for me at all but definitely get me where iam going and it's super rare I have an approach to a green that calls for a four five or six thankfully but as we know we all swing differently. My Grandpa said if it's not broken?? Buy two more.

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2 hours ago, Dead Solid Bogey said:

I game the T350’s from the 7i through PW and not having any major problems staying on the greens. Granted it is a rare occasion that I hit a green..

Curious as to what you play above the 7iron??? 

[Guest-0]

2 hours ago, BreakfastBall15 said:

As much as I like the looks of the Wilson dynapower forged and the Srixon ZX 5/7 MKII, I’m leaning towards Sub 70 based off price. Either the 699 Pro V2 or the 659 CB. Anyone play either and have any feedback? The only thing I really don’t like about the 699s is the back badge

I have a question, I have always wondered about these DTC Brands as I don't understand how they sell their clubs as far as demo goes??? Are people looking at them online and reading a description and just buying a set of irons without ever hitting them???Or do they setup at events and sell their wares as people try them???? Some of them seem to be doing well but the only one I've ever seen out at a demo day is Hogan and I've hit some that were butter and hit others that are bunk but they are always sweet looking!!! Just curious because I could not imagine buying a set of sticks without hitting a couple buckets at least??? That to me would be like taking a date to a restaurant you've never met wrapped up in a box and opening it at the restaurant

[Dead Solid Bogey]

53 minutes ago, Marlin Dave said:

Curious as to what you play above the 7iron??? 

Do to severe distance loss across the entire bag three-four months ago, I embraced my new reality and revamped the entire bag, except for putter. Driver still  at the top.. I am then all fairway woods &  hybrids down to the 7i. The hybrid that replaced the 5i /6i is the

 

Besides the bag re-do… Trying to only play courses/ tees of 6000 yds. or less. Given up playing in almost all tournaments that I use to play in ( was a big match play tourney addict ).In other tournament formats if there isn’t a play for fun flight and I believe in the charity, I just donate. Don’t do handicaps any longer either, not much point. I enjoy my playing as an Ancient Ager…..Golf life is still good, it is just different now. 

[Dead Solid Bogey]

1 hour ago, Marlin Dave said:

I wasn't picking on the 350 simply stating that I've had alot of trouble with "distance irons" in general holding greens but that's any and all. I play them in the top of my bag 4-6 and I've learned to allow for roll out as they just don't spin for me at all but definitely get me where iam going and it's super rare I have an approach to a green that calls for a four five or six thankfully but as we know we all swing differently. My Grandpa said if it's not broken?? Buy two more.

My post was more of an attempted  backhanded comment on  total skill level than on any particular type or brand of clubs. 

[berkeleybob]

@BreakfastBall15 This is my 7-iron. I got these marks first time out with the clubs last month. They were due to loose debris around the course from a windstorm the previous night.

Really, I think I got them on the very-busy-weekend-no-mat driving range during warm-up. There was hardly any grass to tee the ball on, and my first swings were fat. My reaction was like what happens when getting that first scratch on a new car: “My Baby!”

Now, it doesn’t bother me since I have to look at the face closely to see them. It’s fine at address.

 One more thing, I looked it up, the black 699 V2 have a DLC coating while the original 699 have Tour PVD finish.

They talked about it on the forum on the other thread.

Edited March 13 by berkeleybob

[cnosil]

8 hours ago, Marlin Dave said:

I have a question, I have always wondered about these DTC Brands as I don't understand how they sell their clubs as far as demo goes??? 

Some offer demo clubs that you can use.   Typically about $20, they send you clubs, you try them, and then you send them back.    If you are local to them you can often go for a fitting.   All do some kind of phone/online fitting.   Some have been available and commercial fitting locations.   PXG has mobile fitters or you go to their stores.   Different models based on the OEM.    

[BreakfastBall15]

@berkeleybob I can’t even see the scratches from the address picture. Those are really clean! 

[J7Hawkins]

11 hours ago, berkeleybob said:

@J7Hawkins This is my first black set. Can you post a picture of your iron face? I’m curious about what the difference is.

Absolutely. These are a year old and had a most of the wear shown within 2 months. To be fair, I do play a lot of golf (5/6 rounds a week) but still, the finish did not last long at all. 

[JFish350]

12 hours ago, BreakfastBall15 said:

As much as I like the looks of the Wilson dynapower forged and the Srixon ZX 5/7 MKII, I’m leaning towards Sub 70 based off price. Either the 699 Pro V2 or the 659 CB. Anyone play either and have any feedback? The only thing I really don’t like about the 699s is the back badge

I have the 699 pros,  it the v2. I love mine and still feel and perform great. 
I bought these over the T200 3 or 4 years ago. 
 

I’ll be at Sub70 tomorrow to hopefully find a shaft for the driver. Possible driving iron as I have lost all confidence in the driver. It’s the user not the equipment. 

[berkeleybob]

@J7Hawkins Wow. That’s a lot of wear showing. I can see why people question black finish on clubs. I’ll see how mine do this summer.

[JFish350]

9 hours ago, Marlin Dave said:

I have a question, I have always wondered about these DTC Brands as I don't understand how they sell their clubs as far as demo goes??? Are people looking at them online and reading a description and just buying a set of irons without ever hitting them???Or do they setup at events and sell their wares as people try them???? Some of them seem to be doing well but the only one I've ever seen out at a demo day is Hogan and I've hit some that were butter and hit others that are bunk but they are always sweet looking!!! Just curious because I could not imagine buying a set of sticks without hitting a couple buckets at least??? That to me would be like taking a date to a restaurant you've never met wrapped up in a box and opening it at the restaurant

Sub 70 demo program is $20 per club. For irons they will send you a 6 & 9 iron typically. Upfront cost is like $150 I think. Once returned they refund you everything minus the $20. I have used this a bunch. 
same with woods/driver's. 
 

they also have fitting carts, you would need to go on their website and see if there is one close by.  For me it wasn’t an option until recently. There is a cart fitting about 4hrs away that I have not been to, so I can’t say how that works. The fittings I have done with with them has been at their location in Sycamore,Ill. 
 

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9 hours ago, Dead Solid Bogey said:

Do to severe distance loss across the entire bag three-four months ago, I embraced my new reality and revamped the entire bag, except for putter. Driver still  at the top.. I am then all fairway woods &  hybrids down to the 7i. The hybrid that replaced the 5i /6i is the

 

Besides the bag re-do… Trying to only play courses/ tees of 6000 yds. or less. Given up playing in almost all tournaments that I use to play in ( was a big match play tourney addict ).In other tournament formats if there isn’t a play for fun flight and I believe in the charity, I just donate. Don’t do handicaps any longer either, not much point. I enjoy my playing as an Ancient Ager…..Golf life is still good, it is just different now. 

It's a tough one to embrace and will be hard for me but it's coming like a speeding freight train!!! Going to be hard for me as I need an additional golf cart just to carry my ego but when that day comes my bag re fit will look like yours as that all looks pretty solid!!! Do not quit playing scrambles with the best ball format!!! One of my neighbors is 74 yrs old and we have him on our team everytime!!! We have a couple bombers to take care of length but we use a ton of his approach shots, chips and certainly putts!!!! There is a position for everyone at a Scramble and I liked hearing you state you donate only to charities you approve of!!!! I was mortified when I started researching some of the charities I have supported when I saw how much the CEO made and what percentage of my money actually went to the said "beneficiaries" I donate alot and organize events for Ronald McDonald House, Brain and Behavior Institute and Cancer Research Institute I take solace knowing that money is being used for good only!!

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1 hour ago, JFish350 said:

Sub 70 demo program is $20 per club. For irons they will send you a 6 & 9 iron typically. Upfront cost is like $150 I think. Once returned they refund you everything minus the $20. I have used this a bunch. 
same with woods/driver's. 
 

they also have fitting carts, you would need to go on their website and see if there is one close by.  For me it wasn’t an option until recently. There is a cart fitting about 4hrs away that I have not been to, so I can’t say how that works. The fittings I have done with with them has been at their location in Sycamore,Ill. 
 

That's a great idea and I have always wondered what avenue they used!!! That shows alot of confidence in their product as well because at 20 bucks net if someone doesn't buy that's a loser. 

[Steve F]

1 hour ago, J7Hawkins said:

Absolutely. These are a year old and had a most of the wear shown within 2 months. To be fair, I do play a lot of golf (5/6 rounds a week) but still, the finish did not last long at all. 

I work in the automotive body industry: I would be remiss to think that anything painted, anodized or powdercoated would take the beating of a swing speed of 90+mph and releasing a ball over 100+mph WITHOUT scraping or chipping. Think of your car: you get chips and nicks on it and don't have have to go 90+mph to get them! @J7Hawkins pictures make perfect sense. Just MY personal opinion: if you can get the blackout clubs for the same price, go for it. But I do believe no matter what, you're going to damage the black finish on any club. It's the nature of the beast. Now, if the actual metal was cast that color, you have a different story! But, adding color to a casting weakens the metal.... so, back to square one! 

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2 minutes ago, Steve F said:

I work in the automotive body industry: I would be remiss to think that anything painted, anodized or powdercoated would take the beating of a swing speed of 90+mph and releasing a ball over 100+mph WITHOUT scraping or chipping. Think of your car: you get chips and nicks on it and don't have have to go 90+mph to get them! @J7Hawkins pictures make perfect sense. Just MY personal opinion: if you can get the blackout clubs for the same price, go for it. But I do believe no matter what, you're going to damage the black finish on any club. It's the nature of the beast. Now, if the actual metal was cast that color, you have a different story! But, adding color to a casting weakens the metal.... so, back to square one! 

That is terrible!!!!! I have had Callaway Black Irons that barely showed a ball spot on the face and nothing around it and also Cobra S2 in black and they barely even showed a ball mark after heavy use!! PXG needs to figure that out or quit making black sets!! I would be angry paying that money for an obvious defect