What/How Did You Practice Today?

[chisag]

1 hour ago, Kenny B said:

Practicing the short game is a lot more fun for me than full swing practice.  I enjoy practicing different shots to the same target and creating different lies... with the same club as well as changing clubs.  I learn what shots I'm better at, and I will spend more time on the shots I'm not... if I feel that they are worth putting into my arsenal.

 

... It really is amazing how many gofers simply ignore this part of their game. My summer course has free range balls with every round and several memberships include unlimited range time. There is a decent practice area and I rarely see anyone there, while the range is always filled with those hitting full shots. Like you, I think most would actually enjoy playing multiple short game shots with different clubs than just pounding ball after ball on the range. If you can find a practice friend and make it a competition, even better. The irony is if they need that much work on their full swing they are more than likely missing quite a few greens and need even more work on their short game. 

[ParFore74x]

3 hours ago, chisag said:

 

... It really is amazing how many gofers simply ignore this part of their game. My summer course has free range balls with every round and several memberships include unlimited range time. There is a decent practice area and I rarely see anyone there, while the range is always filled with those hitting full shots. Like you, I think most would actually enjoy playing multiple short game shots with different clubs than just pounding ball after ball on the range. If you can find a practice friend and make it a competition, even better. The irony is if they need that much work on their full swing they are more than likely missing quite a few greens and need even more work on their short game. 

One of the local munis has a really decent chipping green setup. I’ll go over there after work once in a while and I rarely have to wait or share the green with anyone. Short game is my favorite practice session. 

[revkev]

4 hours ago, chisag said:

 

... It really is amazing how many gofers simply ignore this part of their game. My summer course has free range balls with every round and several memberships include unlimited range time. There is a decent practice area and I rarely see anyone there, while the range is always filled with those hitting full shots. Like you, I think most would actually enjoy playing multiple short game shots with different clubs than just pounding ball after ball on the range. If you can find a practice friend and make it a competition, even better. The irony is if they need that much work on their full swing they are more than likely missing quite a few greens and need even more work on their short game. 

Plus short game is much easier on the body.  

 

Right now though I’m having an issue with driver and my new glasses. I did everything else pretty well yesterday, actually hit my fairway woods, hybrid great, irons fair, chipped and putting well enough to score. But I’m not going on a golf course again until I get used to these glasses with driver.

 

So I set my hitting net up (had it down for the summer) and hit drivers into it after my stack workout. Felt like I was closer to the sweet spot. I’m going to keep at it until I’m comfortable again. 
 

It’s a shame because I was really hitting the ball well. 

[WaffleHouseTour]

My Skillest coach has me working w an alignment stick to prevent me from pulling the club too inside on my intitial take away. The drill was to hold a stick while I’m holding the club and keep it touching my body until it’s at P2 and then clock the wrists so it’s pointing at my target line. I went  ahead and drilled a hole into the butt of the grip just large enough so I could fit the stick in there.  You basically make a three quarter swing and follow thru.  Can’t chicken wing it or you’ll wack yourself w the stick. So far so good.  Been working on this drill for the past week. Unfortunately I’ve been neglecting my short game practice and that bit me today. Golf…

 

   

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

Some range work today alternating a little with slow feel swings,5, and then full speed, 5, with my 5i. did that 4 sets. Had to adjust my club alignment more towards the heel as i was getting toey. I can feel the lesson work slowly coming in. I still have some EE faults but they don't seem as extreme on video. While i am kind of disappointed with the 5 months of work i have put in, I know that it can take years to retrain the proper movements, so I am trying to keep things into perspective. then did some driver work and shaft testing with face contact and radar.

Then did some short game work playing around with lofts from 58 down to my 7 iron at 32*. Wanting to give myself more options to try and get the ball closer to the hole. the past few weeks have had too many skulls with my higher lofted wedges so will only use those if the shot calls for a soft landing, carry over something or in the sand/pitch shot.

Finally some putter work. was only working on distance control. Played a little game where from 20ft would see how many two putts i get. I was close to 90% and probably closer to 95% but didnt keep exact count. All i know is i maybe had 1 or 2 three putts. Then finished with some 6 ft putts around a cup and did this 2x. 90% success rate there. Making me doubt if i need the aids I just bought  

[RickyBobby_PR]

55 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

I still have some EE faults but they don't seem as extreme on video. While i am kind of disappointed with the 5 months of work i have put in, I know that it can take years to retrain the proper movements, so I am trying to keep things into perspective. then did some driver work and shaft testing with face contact and radar.

Remember EE isn’t a fault. It’s a compensation for an actual fault. If you don’t early extend you wouldn’t hit the ball.

Yes it will take years to unbreak and improve movement patterns but that doesn’t stop progress from scoring better and building a better swing along the way.

[RickyBobby_PR]

55 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

I still have some EE faults but they don't seem as extreme on video. While i am kind of disappointed with the 5 months of work i have put in, I know that it can take years to retrain the proper movements, so I am trying to keep things into perspective. then did some driver work and shaft testing with face contact and radar.

Remember EE isn’t a fault. It’s a compensation for an actual fault. If you don’t early extend you wouldn’t hit the ball.

Yes it will take years to unbreak and improve movement patterns but that doesn’t stop progress from scoring better and building a better swing along the way.

[RichL85]

Yesterday went to the range to work on a few things mentioned by the coach. Spent around 40 minutes to start mostly working on half swings to try to get the feeling needed to close the club face on the way down.

I'm finding that I'm having to go through some trial and error to find the thought and feel that corresponds to what the coach wants me to achieve. For example, he wants me to think of basically turning the club face down in the downswing, feeling like the back of my left hand points at the ground. That thought doesn't seem to resonate with me, so I found that by thinking and focusing on just allowing the hands to fall from the top, I was able to achieve the proper movement. For whatever reason, intentional thought on my wrist movement just doesn't work for me. 

The second half of the time was primarily spent hitting wedges, working on different distances and different heights. I'm pretty sure it's a setup thing with the wedges because I hit some pretty ugly shanks off the hosel, which is normally not my miss. I tend more towards the toe on every other club. Overall I know the wedges are where I should focus the most of my time right now. Finished up with driver because that is the club I'm still trying to get comfortable with. Will keep working on the swing changes and once they are set, I think I'll be in a much better spot to start improving my scores significantly. 

[revkev]

Went to the range this morning to see if there was any improvement with the eye sight due to new glasses.

 

definite improvement - 

[tony@CIC]

2 hours ago, revkev said:

Went to the range this morning to see if there was any improvement with the eye sight due to new glasses.

 

definite improvement - 

Progressive lenses? 

[revkev]

2 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

Progressive lenses? 

Yes but I’ve had those for a decade -

However my prescription changed significantly. It was terrible last week Friday and also trying to play on Sunday afternoon. Still some issues chipping, pitching but easy to tell that I’m adjusting, nicely. 
 

I love that I can see the ball all the way to it’s finish now - it’s been a while. 

[tony@CIC]

19 hours ago, revkev said:

Yes but I’ve had those for a decade -

However my prescription changed significantly. It was terrible last week Friday and also trying to play on Sunday afternoon. Still some issues chipping, pitching but easy to tell that I’m adjusting, nicely. 
 

I love that I can see the ball all the way to it’s finish now - it’s been a while. 

I need new ones - I can see the ball launch and occasionally as it hits the ground - but in the air nothing. 

[edingc]

Full bucket in 90 degree heat working on things from my lesson yesterday. Biggest change was a stronger right hand grip.

Took almost half the bucket before realizing that when I strengthen my right hand grip I am more likely to roll the clubface open on the back swing.

Felt like I was closing the face on the back swing (feel != real) and had some really great results. Noticed that it's much easier to not spin my shoulders open to start the down swing when the my grip is stronger (and I don't open the face on the back swing).

[revkev]

2 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

I need new ones - I can see the ball launch and occasionally as it hits the ground - but in the air nothing. 

It had been three years for me. Besides progressives I have transitions. I suspect the film was running too. It was rare that I could see the full flight of anything longer than 150. Like you could see the launch and if I guessed right the landing.

 

Worked on chipping, putting and sand play. Definitely finding the center of the ball more frequently. 

[cjeffs12]

After a very frustrating putting weekend, I hit the putting green hard this afternoon. My ball striking and overall full swing has been a lot better, so I’ve been hitting more greens. This has exposed my putting, and been a huge weakness the past few rounds. So, today I set up a 3 foot circle and made 50 from 3 feet. Then I kept the circle and worked my lag putting by trying to keep putts in that circle from 20/30/40 feet, each distance on uphill, downhill and breaking putts. Speed has really been an issue during my rounds, so this was really eye opening for me to see. I also, was working on my pre putt routine of aiming the face, setting up around that, look at my line and then hit the putt. 

[russtopherb]

Hit a small bucket this morning working on shoulder turn and setup. My miss as this season has progressed has been to the left, hitting draws regularly with irons but landing 10-15 yards left of where I'm aiming. I've been working on just slightly opening the iron clubface at setup then taking my grip, which is resulting in much straighter flight, or a push draw at times. It's very odd to me as someone who missed right for so many years to take this into consideration now. I'm not sure if it's possibly a lie issue or maybe the offset on my irons now that my swing path is reliably in to out, however just slightly opening the face has things going much closer to my target. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

5 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

Hit a small bucket this morning working on shoulder turn and setup. My miss as this season has progressed has been to the left, hitting draws regularly with irons but landing 10-15 yards left of where I'm aiming. I've been working on just slightly opening the iron clubface at setup then taking my grip, which is resulting in much straighter flight, or a push draw at times. It's very odd to me as someone who missed right for so many years to take this into consideration now. I'm not sure if it's possibly a lie issue or maybe the offset on my irons now that my swing path is reliably in to out, however just slightly opening the face has things going much closer to my target. 

It’s possible you are coming to far in to out. Usually the big draw/hook is an indication of this. If face is closed or open combined with this you will see the  pull hook or push draw. 
 

And if just a little late in squaring the face the push/block 

[PMookie]

Went to the range last night just before they closed the shop so I could take video and send it to my coach. I see why I’m struggling so badly, and it’s the same issue I face every year: getting very steep on the downswing. It’s bad, and it’s a natural tendency I fight every year. The disease in my back that has caused my spine to straighten, along with pretty extensive arthritis in my hips and neck, contribute significantly to the “moves” I make throughout the swing. I’m looking forward to getting some feedback and drills to help get me back on-plane. 

[russtopherb]

23 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

It’s possible you are coming to far in to out. Usually the big draw/hook is an indication of this. If face is closed or open combined with this you will see the  pull hook or push draw. 
 

And if just a little late in squaring the face the push/block 

Thankfully nothing I've hit on the course so far has been a hook. Ballflight starts straight then draws 10-15 yards. I've been compensating by aiming right of target but I don't want to rely on that full time. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

29 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

Thankfully nothing I've hit on the course so far has been a hook. Ballflight starts straight then draws 10-15 yards. I've been compensating by aiming right of target but I don't want to rely on that full time. 

Check your setup and make sure you aren’t too closed or open. If possible film from behind and see where you swing is coming from and where your face is at shaft parallel just before impact 

[RichL85]

Took a few clubs to the range after work to keep working on the same feels from last week. It was right around 100 degrees outside and I was still in jeans, but overall it was a successful range day. I am basically feeling like I am slowing everything down, but the results are good, so I'm going with it. 

I also got bored over the weekend and did this to my wedges. The paint was looking pretty bad on a few of them so figured I would try my hand at a little project. 

[PMookie]

Coach replied, and I have a few things to work-on, and then send him back 2 videos. It will be a few days with the rain we have, and taking the son to college tomorrow (), but excited to work out these issues.

[russtopherb]

On 8/9/2022 at 10:17 AM, RickyBobby_PR said:

Check your setup and make sure you aren’t too closed or open. If possible film from behind and see where you swing is coming from and where your face is at shaft parallel just before impact 

So to try something out I hit my son's steel shafted CBX 7i vs my graphite shafted D200. There's a 40 gram difference between shafts, and my 15 yard draw was diminished to about 5 yards with the CBX. Mental placebo or potentially real results with heavier weight impacting my tempo and release? 

[cnosil]

On 8/9/2022 at 9:46 AM, russtopherb said:

Thankfully nothing I've hit on the course so far has been a hook. Ballflight starts straight then draws 10-15 yards. I've been compensating by aiming right of target but I don't want to rely on that full time. 

 

11 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

So to try something out I hit my son's steel shafted CBX 7i vs my graphite shafted D200. There's a 40 gram difference between shafts, and my 15 yard draw was diminished to about 5 yards with the CBX. Mental placebo or potentially real results with heavier weight impacting my tempo and release? 

Here are my thoughts. 
1.   a 10-15 yard draw might be a bit more than desired, but if consistent you aren’t compensating that draw is your stock shot.  Embrace that and aim 10-15 yards right knowing that it should come back. You should also see shots that draw less and draw more as that is your dispersion pattern   

2.  It is probably related to the weighting and balance of the club and how you respond to it during the swing.  I see this fairly regularly when doing most wanted testing. As I rotate through the clubs, ball flights and performance change slightly and there is consistency for each club.   As an example I have been doing wedge testing: I had a club that was long and slightly left, one that was pretty consistent at the target distance and one that was generally a short push.   This pattern was the same as I rotated through the clubs.  

[RickyBobby_PR]

39 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

So to try something out I hit my son's steel shafted CBX 7i vs my graphite shafted D200. There's a 40 gram difference between shafts, and my 15 yard draw was diminished to about 5 yards with the CBX. Mental placebo or potentially real results with heavier weight impacting my tempo and release? 

Potentially heavier shaft influencing better mechanics. 
 

Hard to say what’s happening without video with each club, but yeah I would suspects better path or better face angle or release.

 

[russtopherb]

10 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Potentially heavier shaft influencing better mechanics. 
 

Hard to say what’s happening without video with each club, but yeah I would suspects better path or better face angle or release.

 

Appreciate the feedback. I'll see if I can sneak a tripod out of the office to try and get some video. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

4 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

Appreciate the feedback. I'll see if I can sneak a tripod out of the office to try and get some video. 

You’re welcome. 
 

How long have you had the d200 w/graphite and when did the big draw start?

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

Trying to make serious putting improvements 

[russtopherb]

10 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

You’re welcome. 
 

How long have you had the d200 w/graphite and when did the big draw start?

Had them for a few years, let my son use them for a bit then moved back to them this season after he outgrew them. Big draw started as a smaller draw probably around my 3rd round of the year as my winter swing rust worked itself out and has gotten bigger since then. As I noted above, I've been compensating for it with aim but it's not something I want to do long-term. No issues with fairways/hybrids or driver, it's mostly 6i-9i and wedges have been OK. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

Just now, russtopherb said:

Had them for a few years, let my son use them for a bit then moved back to them this season after he outgrew them. Big draw started as a smaller draw probably around my 3rd round of the year as my winter swing rust worked itself out and has gotten bigger since then. As I noted above, I've been compensating for it with aim but it's not something I want to do long-term. No issues with fairways/hybrids or driver, it's mostly 6i-9i and wedges have been OK. 

What shaft is in the wedge?