cnosil 17,088 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Was at MGS last night so I figured I would work on iron shots and try to reduce my toe hits. Definitely something I am struggling with. Ball back in stance has helped a little but not “perfect”. Thought about what Adam Young talks about and changing intent. This helped as well but it made my path go way in to out...7* range. To minimize path I opened my stance which reduced it to the 2* range. The open path gave me better contact location but I had the tendency to hit a straight pull. It is interesting that I am not appearing to suffer from a lot of distance loss on the toe strikes, maybe because I am holding the club too tight. Got kind of frustrated after a while and really went after the ball and was able to increase distance by 10ish yards. Face,path, and impact location were no better or worse. Obviously have more in the tank based on that, but the whole swing seems messed up. Gotta get to a range and film my swing. Lots more practice and direction needed. 6 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: TM-180 Backups: 6330 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, cnosil said: Was at MGS last night so I figured I would work on iron shots and try to reduce my toe hits. Definitely something I am struggling with. Ball back in stance has helped a little but not “perfect”. Thought about what Adam Young talks about and changing intent. This helped as well but it made my path go way in to out...7* range. To minimize path I opened my stance which reduced it to the 2* range. The open path gave me better contact location but I had the tendency to hit a straight pull. It is interesting that I am not appearing to suffer from a lot of distance loss on the toe strikes, maybe because I am holding the club too tight. Got kind of frustrated after a while and really went after the ball and was able to increase distance by 10ish yards. Face,path, and impact location were no better or worse. Obviously have more in the tank based on that, but the whole swing seems messed up. Gotta get to a range and film my swing. Lots more practice and direction needed. Ball too far back will cause some of the excessive in to out. GG recommends playing balls off the left ear for stock shots. I’ve seen Monte and some other use left armpit or left chest. 4 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 17,088 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Ball too far back will cause some of the excessive in to out. GG recommends playing balls off the left ear for stock shots. I’ve seen Monte and some other use left armpit or left chest.I know and I am probably just inside that with the adjustment. I am thinking I stupidly listened to all the rotational stuff and now rotate and pull the club inside which causes the toe strikes. Gonna have to retrain the brain. 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: TM-180 Backups: 6330 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, cnosil said: I know and I am probably just inside that with the adjustment. I am thinking I stupidly listened to all the rotational stuff and now rotate and pull the club inside which causes the toe strikes. Gonna have to retrain the brain. I hear ya. Will be curious to see what you find when you video the swing 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
rbsiedsc 2,059 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 21 minutes ago, cnosil said: I know and I am probably just inside that with the adjustment. I am thinking I stupidly listened to all the rotational stuff and now rotate and pull the club inside which causes the toe strikes. Gonna have to retrain the brain. you could also just stand a little closer or address with the hosel like Adam Scott? 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with Pro 2.0 TS 7X. Testing Tensei Orange Pro S (1" tipped) at 44.75" 2H: Super Hybrid with Tensei Orange Pro Hyb 80 Stiff (shaft may be swapped at some point) 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Corza Ghost 35" ( Benched Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34") Ball: MTB-X Link to post Share on other sites
Lacassem 10,369 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 So my swing adjustments apparently have been working. 2 years ago this time I was -5* today at my fitting I was averaging with all clubs this pretty Number. More to come on a post in boom sticks 8 Quote Check out my reviews G710 Irons Lacassem official review WITB: FlexTech is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by : RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X I SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green 2019 P790 4-PW - Project X 6.5 LZ I 48 SM8 - Nippon Modus 125 S 52, 56, 60 SM7 - Nippon Modus 125 S I O-Works 1W I PROV1X #19 Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to post Share on other sites
rbsiedsc 2,059 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Lacassem said: So my swing adjustments apparently have been working. 2 years ago this time I was -5* today at my fitting I was averaging with all clubs this pretty Number. More to come on a post in boom sticks Isn't that a little high for irons through as you want to compress? nice that your driver is looking better 2 Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with Pro 2.0 TS 7X. Testing Tensei Orange Pro S (1" tipped) at 44.75" 2H: Super Hybrid with Tensei Orange Pro Hyb 80 Stiff (shaft may be swapped at some point) 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Corza Ghost 35" ( Benched Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34") Ball: MTB-X Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,892 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Lacassem said: So my swing adjustments apparently have been working. 2 years ago this time I was -5* today at my fitting I was averaging with all clubs this pretty Number. More to come on a post in boom sticks At my Titleist fitting I was like -5 as well. Hoping my swing changes will make my driver AOA less negative as well. 2 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
Lacassem 10,369 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: Isn't that a little high for irons through as you want to compress? nice that your driver is looking better Was only driver today I would have to go back to my irons and see what it was at my true spec fitting with irons from 2 years ago, But don’t remember any issues in the iron department 1 Quote Check out my reviews G710 Irons Lacassem official review WITB: FlexTech is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by : RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X I SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green 2019 P790 4-PW - Project X 6.5 LZ I 48 SM8 - Nippon Modus 125 S 52, 56, 60 SM7 - Nippon Modus 125 S I O-Works 1W I PROV1X #19 Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 17,088 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 you could also just stand a little closer or address with the hosel like Adam Scott?Tried it and it doesn’t fix the problem. I have put the ball inside the clubhead and still have toe hits. I have reached the point that I need professional help. 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: TM-180 Backups: 6330 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
Chip Strokes 3,723 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 10 minutes ago, Lacassem said: So my swing adjustments apparently have been working. 2 years ago this time I was -5* today at my fitting I was averaging with all clubs this pretty Number. More to come on a post in boom sticks you better tee it up higher and go after it at +8 if you wanna catch up 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XT 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 : SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Futura 5w Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,892 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Random question, unrelated to anything I am specifically working on at the moment. Just some food for thought. Exaggeration feels/drills, are they helpful or hurtful for you? For me, I need to be careful with exaggerations. Sometimes i start to over do the exaggerations in real swings, which turns into doing the wrong thing. Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 6 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Random question, unrelated to anything I am specifically working on at the moment. Just some food for thought. Exaggeration feels/drills, are they helpful or hurtful for you? For me, I need to be careful with exaggerations. Sometimes i start to over do the exaggerations in real swings, which turns into doing the wrong thing. They can be helpful as are slow motion swings. Worth exaggerations and drills in general one shouldnt do them for extended periods at a time. Example would be do a few exaggerations of a movement then make swings rinse and repeat for a several cycles. Same with a drill. Hit 3-5 balls with a drill or training aid then hit 3-5 without 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,892 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Was watching this today. AMG is very big on posture and how it affects the swing. They have some similar thoughts as GG, but slightly different posture. They make an interesting point about finding a Tour pro that is in the same height range as you that has posture similar to what is highlighted in the video and then you can compare how your posture looks to theirs as a reference. Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 23 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Was watching this today. AMG is very big on posture and how it affects the swing. They have some similar thoughts as GG, but slightly different posture. They make an interesting point about finding a Tour pro that is in the same height range as you that has posture similar to what is highlighted in the video and then you can compare how your posture looks to theirs as a reference. They do have similar thoughts to GG, but lots of instructors talk about the same type of setup. Some coaches I know of like Monte and Bradley Hughes discuss this and Bradley even says the same thing about true weight being on the shoe laces. The setup is similar to many of the greats. Here’s Jack and Norman. You can see the butt underneath them 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,892 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: They do have similar thoughts to GG, but lots of instructors talk about the same type of setup. Some coaches I know of like Monte and Bradley Hughes discuss this and Bradley even says the same thing about true weight being on the shoe laces. The setup is similar to many of the greats. Here’s Jack and Norman. You can see the butt underneath them Yep, agree there are lots that setup similarly. Just trying to find a similar height & proportion player. The AMG guys were talking about some of the angles looking different if you try to compare yourself to someone thats not in the height range. I have to go to the LPGA for a better comp. I am more or less the same height as Bianca. 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, dlow206 said: Yep, agree there are lots that setup similarly. Just trying to find a similar height & proportion player. The AMG guys were talking about some of the angles looking different if you try to compare yourself to someone thats not in the height range. I have to go to the LPGA for a better comp. I am more or less the same height as Bianca. That suggestion by them is something I had an instructor tell me back in 2015/16. He had me looking at Molinari. Same height and we’re working a few lbs of each other just distributed differently. I agree for your build you will see more similarities with lpga players. Danielle Kang, Brooke Henderson are some others you could look at. On the pga tour someone like Bud Cauley who’s is about 5’7” 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
Micah T 1,020 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 @dlow206[mention=65848]RickyBobby_PR[/mention]I started the GG online academy 2 weeks ago; done nothing so far but look at my stance in the mirror, and try to get my butt underneath me. In the mirror I look for my belt to be level, and I’m standing so much closer to the ball. Gonna be a long, long time before I take this to the course...Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shapotomous 2,190 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 11 hours ago, dlow206 said: Yep, agree there are lots that setup similarly. Just trying to find a similar height & proportion player. The AMG guys were talking about some of the angles looking different if you try to compare yourself to someone thats not in the height range. I have to go to the LPGA for a better comp. I am more or less the same height as Bianca. The LPGA swing speeds are more in our general neighborhood also which I think makes certain equipment references more legit for us. 1 Quote Modern Bag: Ping G410+ 9*, Accra TourZ X265 M5; Snake Eyes 18* Hybrid, Snake Eyes 23* Hybrid, PX LZ 6.0; Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Cleveland Tour Action 49*, 53*, 57*; PX LZ 6.5 ; Ping Heppler Fetch; Ball - Snell MTB-X; Bag - Sun Mountain H2NO Classic Bag: Driver - Wilson Staff Persimmon; 3w - Hogan Speed Slot; 5w - Wilson Staff Tour Block; 3 - pw - Staff Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 hours ago, Micah T said: @dlow206[mention=65848]RickyBobby_PR[/mention] I started the GG online academy 2 weeks ago; done nothing so far but look at my stance in the mirror, and try to get my butt underneath me. In the mirror I look for my belt to be level, and I’m standing so much closer to the ball. Gonna be a long, long time before I take this to the course... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Lots of good info in that course especially the first module 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
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